Do you go to church?

[AngRemembered]

Only when I'm short of wine and bread on Sunday:wink:

[KKBL]

nope

[Shaun]

Being agnostic, no.

[Christina]

Sometimes i do, maybe when its christmas or with the school. I should start going more often though, i would like too as i am a Christian x

[Kore]

No.

[Rocko]

Not anymore.

[Firewire]

Nope.

[Sticks]

Every Sunday and also the midweek Bible class

This morning I was song leading as the person down for down for doing it was off sick.

Sometimes I have given sermons, my last one was Spiritual Lessons of Apollo 13 - It was done on the anniversary of that incident

I also do the church newsletter and other ancillary church administration tasks.

Here is me outside the community centre where we meet, (The Kingston Park Community Centre, Newcastle upon Tyne), in the new church polo shirts


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[Ross]

No I don't

[stacey]

Nope i'm not religious at all

[Jackie]

No never have.

[Lauren]

No, wasn't Christened either.

[Matt08]

Nope, I think the church is one of earth's most boring places. I don't believe in Jesus/God either. I used to have to go to church at my old school (at Christmas), but I hated it. Forcing children to go to church should be banned.

[Scarlett.]

I go at Christmas as I am Catholic, but I dont believe that we have to go each week

[Hugo]

At Christmas..but thats about it. Wasn't christened.

[Captain.Remy]

I am a catholic but I don't usually go to Church but weddings...
I basically think I don't need a Church to pray.

[Kore]

Originally posted by Matt08
Forcing children to go to church should be banned.

Yeah i think it's feeding childrens mind with utter rubbish. not good.

i believe theres an afterlife, that there are ghosts and UFO's though...

there *may* be a god, but not in Human form. Probably like a cloud of dust or something. lol

[Spike]

No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

[Spike]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

There is, anyone with abit of common sense realises that religion is just all lies and not true.
If people want to believe in it good for them but I think they are being stupid

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

That's what I was going to say.
I think everyone should respect what people believe in.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do.

That and other views are a bit harsh.

You cant call people whole beliefs 'Pathetic" :conf2:
Sometimes I do, mainly at Christmas though. When I was younger, up to about 13 I was very religious, but then I lost it when someone I was close to died.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

There is, anyone with abit of common sense realises that religion is just all lies and not true.
If people want to believe in it good for them but I think they are being stupid Well, IMO beliving in nothing is stupid, there is something, the "Big Bang" is a crap explination

Thats my opinion of non-belivers, but I dont feel the need to say its stupid that that is what they belive

[_Audrey]

No. I don't agree with religion in general.

EDIT:

the "Big Bang" is a c**p explaination

How can you say that? Fair enough, it is your opinion, but at the end of the day you can't argue with science. Personally I find it a lot more plausible than "God created everything".

[Magic]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

There is, anyone with abit of common sense realises that religion is just all lies and not true.
If people want to believe in it good for them but I think they are being stupid

Pardon!
BEING STUPID? You can NOT call people beliefs stupid, after all, these are your BELIEFS. Who knows what their is!
And again, who are you to call it "All lies", nobody knows.

Ohh, and sorry Remy and Chewy, I basically said what you did!

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

There is, anyone with abit of common sense realises that religion is just all lies and not true.
If people want to believe in it good for them but I think they are being stupid

Pardon!
BEING STUPID? You can NOT call people beliefs stupid, after all, these are your BELIEFS. Who knows what their is!
And again, who are you to call it "All lies", nobody knows.

Ohh, and sorry Remy and Chewy, I basically said what you did! I agree, I hate it when people feel the need to say that people who follow religeon are stupid

[Matt08]

I decided to delete my last post in here after re-reading what Spike said. I thought you were saying that religion is pathetic. Saying that relgious people are "pathetic" is maybe going a little too far.

[Rocko]

All in all no one really knows one way or another what's true.

Probably why religion needs faith and Science needs theories.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

There is, anyone with abit of common sense realises that religion is just all lies and not true.
If people want to believe in it good for them but I think they are being stupid

Pardon!
BEING STUPID? You can NOT call people beliefs stupid, after all, these are your BELIEFS. Who knows what their is!
And again, who are you to call it "All lies", nobody knows.

Ohh, and sorry Remy and Chewy, I basically said what you did!

I can call peoples beliefs stupid, I just did.
I would rather not believe and go to hell if it is true.
I'm not wasting my time on believing in anything which can't be proven.
Like I said people who believe good for them, it helps some people but I think religion is stupid and should be forgotten.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

There is, anyone with abit of common sense realises that religion is just all lies and not true.
If people want to believe in it good for them but I think they are being stupid

Pardon!
BEING STUPID? You can NOT call people beliefs stupid, after all, these are your BELIEFS. Who knows what their is!
And again, who are you to call it "All lies", nobody knows.

Ohh, and sorry Remy and Chewy, I basically said what you did!

I can call peoples beliefs stupid, I just did.
I would rather not believe and go to hell if it is true.
I'm not wasting my time on believing in anything which can't be proven.
Like I said people who believe good for them, it helps some people but I think religion is stupid and should be forgotten.

Everyone knows Hell isnt a true place, even the Church
but if you dont waste your time in beliveing something that cant be proven, then there is nothing much to belive in

[Spike]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

There is, anyone with abit of common sense realises that religion is just all lies and not true.
If people want to believe in it good for them but I think they are being stupid

Pardon!
BEING STUPID? You can NOT call people beliefs stupid, after all, these are your BELIEFS. Who knows what their is!
And again, who are you to call it "All lies", nobody knows.

Ohh, and sorry Remy and Chewy, I basically said what you did!

I can call peoples beliefs stupid, I just did.
I would rather not believe and go to hell if it is true.
I'm not wasting my time on believing in anything which can't be proven.
Like I said people who believe good for them, it helps some people but I think religion is stupid and should be forgotten.

Everyone knows Hell isnt a true place, even the Church
but if you dont waste your time in beliveing something that cant be proven, then there is nothing much to belive in
Thats why I don't believe in anything really

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

There is, anyone with abit of common sense realises that religion is just all lies and not true.
If people want to believe in it good for them but I think they are being stupid

Pardon!
BEING STUPID? You can NOT call people beliefs stupid, after all, these are your BELIEFS. Who knows what their is!
And again, who are you to call it "All lies", nobody knows.

Ohh, and sorry Remy and Chewy, I basically said what you did!

I can call peoples beliefs stupid, I just did.
I would rather not believe and go to hell if it is true.
I'm not wasting my time on believing in anything which can't be proven.
Like I said people who believe good for them, it helps some people but I think religion is stupid and should be forgotten.

Everyone knows Hell isnt a true place, even the Church
but if you dont waste your time in beliveing something that cant be proven, then there is nothing much to belive in

Yeah, I think the church just use hell to scare people so that they won't sin in their lives. However, I expect most Christians do sin at some point in their lives.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Matt08
However, I expect most Christians do sin at some point in their lives.

Exactly. :tongue: We aren't perfect.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Magic
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

There is, anyone with abit of common sense realises that religion is just all lies and not true.
If people want to believe in it good for them but I think they are being stupid

Pardon!
BEING STUPID? You can NOT call people beliefs stupid, after all, these are your BELIEFS. Who knows what their is!
And again, who are you to call it "All lies", nobody knows.

Ohh, and sorry Remy and Chewy, I basically said what you did!

I can call peoples beliefs stupid, I just did.
I would rather not believe and go to hell if it is true.
I'm not wasting my time on believing in anything which can't be proven.
Like I said people who believe good for them, it helps some people but I think religion is stupid and should be forgotten.

Yes, of course you can call people's beliefs stupid, I could call the Queen a S**t but it doesn't make it true. And I didn't mean that you could type 'people are stupid', I meant it is completly morally wrong.

If people believe, they do believe. Who are you to call them "Common Sense" less?

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Matt08
However, I expect most Christians do sin at some point in their lives.

Exactly. :tongue: We aren't perfect. Too true xD :blush:

[Magic]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Matt08
However, I expect most Christians do sin at some point in their lives.

Exactly. :tongue: We aren't perfect.

Me... Sin.... Never!

[Captain.Remy]

Spike, I can see what you are trying to say but calling us 'stupid' and having less common sense is a bit too far and can offence people. I'm a bit shocked to see how can people be that intolerant instead of respecting each other.

[Dan_]

No, I'm agnostic.

[Fom]

I have very strong opinions on religion... i wont express it here. But I will say that whenever i see religious people i am honestly shocked that people still believe in it. 2000 years ago I could understand =/ Personally I think it is an escape of people being frightened of the truth.

(I said I wasnt going to express my opinion but I did anyway lmao)

Edit: And to the people saying "Nobody knows" it has SO been proven that god doesnt exist people just choose to ignore it and the pope will change things about so that it sounds like god did it, he had a clever way of getting round the evolution fence.

[Killian]

Personally, I'm not sure as to what to believe in at the moment. I'm inclined to believe in it (because that's the way I brought up), but there's still so much more to contemplate, and I'm only young yet. :bigsmile:

[Rex=Legend]

Religion is the ultimate hard drug. Its followers are a confused bunch who choose to only believe in certian segments to suit their tastes while in fact they know absoloutely NOTHING , for the most part.

Their is no such thing as a religious child , only a child born to religious parents. A child cannot decide such things as their choosen faith.

Religion is doing more damage in this day and age than the moral code it apparently intends to uphold.

Im humanist. I believe in what we can see. The goodness of people and the planet that is supporting our life.

I do not think their is need for a religion. I think people find comfort in assuming their is a god. But what is 'god'?

If I told you to believe in a flying spaghetti monster , would you? Probably not , but why? Is that not as plausable as 'god'?

Christianity depends on one thing : Did Jesus really rise from the dead and ascend in to heavan?

Unfortuneatly , nobody ... NOBODY has the answer. So we should all stop devoting secular servitude to the non existent.

By the same token , being an ignorant , unrespectful , hardline Atheist like Spike is not much better.

Forget religion and lets get on with our lives , I say.














And hey , if their is a god , wont he FORGIVE us? :thumbs:

[Tom]

No but I sort of believe in God ...

I don't particularly follow the religion though and I've not been christened but I do have a set of rosary beads, they make a good accessory :bigsmile:

[Hugo]

Relegion is proven to be healthy and I think it is a good thing to have a faith.

[melanie]

Nope

[xDramatick]

Nope.
Athiest here =)

[Rex=Legend]

Originally posted by tooperfect
Relegion is proven to be healthy and I think it is a good thing to have a faith.
Yeah but so is ... not having religion? Its not as if Jesus Christ is one of your five a day for crying out loud. Religion is also NOT healthy as fact. Its all shades of grey. Religion also starts wars. So take your 'proven' point out of the equation.

[Sticks]

Quite a number of scientists have or had a religious faith, such as Newton, Dalton and Kelvin.

It was faith which prompted many to study the world and become the early pioneers of science.

Hardly stupid people

As for proofs, I refer you to the Anthropic Principal, developed by atheists, in there you can see the hand of a designer. I certainly did when I first came acros irt, in it's various forms in the 1980's

[Kore]

Originally posted by tooperfect
Relegion is proven to be healthy and I think it is a good thing to have a faith.

Wheres this proof? lol

[Sticks]

Try here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7302609.stm)



Religion 'linked to happy life'

Belief may make us more contented
A belief in God could lead to a more contented life, research suggests.
Religious people are better able to cope with shocks such as losing a job or divorce, claims the study presented to a Royal Economic Society conference.

Data from thousands of Europeans revealed higher levels of "life satisfaction" in believers.

However, researcher Professor Andrew Clark said other aspects of a religious upbringing unrelated to belief may influence future happiness.

[Nurse57]

Sticks, you posted this in answer to someone asking for proof.

"Religion 'linked to happy life'

Belief may make us more contented
A belief in God could lead to a more contented life, research suggests.
Religious people are better able to cope with shocks such as losing a job or divorce, claims the study presented to a Royal Economic Society conference.

Data from thousands of Europeans revealed higher levels of "life satisfaction" in believers.

However, researcher Professor Andrew Clark said other aspects of a religious upbringing unrelated to belief may influence future happiness. "

Can I just say that is not proof, but opinion. "may" "could" "suggest" and "claim" are not words usually associated with "proof"

[Rex=Legend]

Your reasoning and 'proofs' are still very weak points Sticks. And you still seem to have missed a lot of the whole point of what I was saying.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Nurse57
Can I just say that is not proof, but opinion. "may" "could" "suggest" and "claim" are not words usually associated with "proof"

Which is also language used by those trying to explain the evolutionary scenario

[Christina]

Sorry, i know im abit late but just because some things may have been 'proven' does not mean that people cannot beleive in religon!!! I think its kind of rude to call people stupid and to tell people that they have no commen sence!! Its up to people who and what they beleive in whether its true or not it gives some sort of comfort beleiving in things. x

[x.Nicola.x]

I go to church sometimes. I do believe in God to an extent but even though I am Catholic I think some of the rules they have are ridiculous. Faith isn't something I really think about alot though, I am young and I if I do develop a very strong faith I will have more time to practise my faith when I am older.

But I would never disrespect someone for believing/not believing in a religion. Everyone is entitled to believe whatever and aslong as there not offending anyone else, then that's fine.

[Sticks]

The problem is that so called established churches lost "market share" to what are classed as independents. These churches may rent a place, rather than own a building like we do, and some groups may actually provide a service for the community.

When a church is functioning correctly then it acts like a family and members help each other out.

One rarely sees that level of mutual help and aid in a secular organisation.

[_Audrey]

The universe started with a "Big Bang," the beginning of time and space. Science has shown there is no 'before' before the Bang, although science does not know what caused it. Darwin's Theory of Evolution is the strongest theory out there into how humans evolved.

Science gives answers, whereas religion doesn't. Science gives facts, religion gives hazy and contradictory suggestions.

[fairymoon]

dont go to church, i am pagan so i can pray anywere, i belive the earth is our goddess

[Sticks]

Originally posted by _Audrey
Science gives answers, whereas religion doesn't. Science gives facts, religion gives hazy and contradictory suggestions.

In light of the Heisenberg Uncertainty principal, want to re-think that one?

[Princess]

No. I havn't believed in God for a good few years now. The last times I went when were school brought us.

[_Audrey]

Originally posted by Sticks
Originally posted by _Audrey
Science gives answers, whereas religion doesn't. Science gives facts, religion gives hazy and contradictory suggestions.

In light of the Heisenberg Uncertainty principal, want to re-think that one?

No, I can't prove God doesn't exist, but then again you don't prove a negative, you prove a positive. So unless you, or anyone for that matter, can give valid evidence for God, I remain unconvinced.

[Sticks]

What I am alluding to is that at the quantum level, science gets hazy and fuzzy.

Try pinpointing an electron in time and space

[_Audrey]

Originally posted by Sticks
What I am alluding to is that at the quantum level, science gets hazy and fuzzy.

Try pinpointing an electron in time and space

That doesn't give me an answer.

What do you mean "try pinpointing an electron in time and space" - do you do science!?

[Lauren]

In following with Popper's Falsifcation Thesis (Basically; you can never prove something as correct, but if you can falsify it; thus... prove something is wrong, then it's considered more of a 'fact') then Science > Religion.

[06marsh]

Originally posted by Matt08
Nope, I think the church is one of earth's most boring places. I don't believe in Jesus/God either. I used to have to go to church at my old school (at Christmas), but I hated it. Forcing children to go to church should be banned.

hell for you me thinks! lol

[06marsh]

Originally posted by fairymoon
dont go to church, i am pagan so i can pray anywere, i belive the earth is our goddess

Earth is dying. sorry!

[Xander]

I don't have a religion, so I don't go to church. :bigsmile:

[andybigbro]

No
I used to for the Boys brigade :D

[Sticks]

Originally posted by _Audrey
Originally posted by Sticks
What I am alluding to is that at the quantum level, science gets hazy and fuzzy.

Try pinpointing an electron in time and space

That doesn't give me an answer.

What do you mean "try pinpointing an electron in time and space" - do you do science!?

I did it to degree level, and my major was in Physics

There is a belief we know absolutely everything in science, which is not so. As a scientist

What happened at the point of the Big Bang, if you subscribe to that theory

How did we obtain spontaneous generation to create life
How did we go from mono-cellular life to multi-cellular life
How can we create a theory of everything and combine all the forces into one?

Plus a number of others

[Rex=Legend]

More importantly than all that , why do we worship an object none of us have ever seen or heard from despite the **** we SHOULD be tending to in our lives JUST because Science does not have all the answers yet?

I hate how these things always turn in to Science > Religion or Religion > Science.

Why does Religion even need to be their?

Its like - ''AHA! flaw in your logic Mr. Scientist! You cant prove this! Wheres my Bible?''.

Why is Religion the automatic response when Science cant give us something? Its nothing more than a longstanding meme. An assumption.

[GiRTh]

I went to Sunday school till I was 16 but I've kind of lost the faith since then.

[Fom]

Tbh, I think the creation of the universe goes beyond anything the human brain could even think of, there is alot humankind will never explain, but just because we cant explain it doesn't really mean some magic man in the sky made it.

The same applies to god though... who created god? If god has always been here then whats to say the universe hasnt always been here? And to talk about before the big bang, there is some scientific proof, I read somewhere that the universe was once the size of a grain of salt and it exploded outwards... and is still expanding.
But that was ages ago so im not sure if its right. But there are ideas to what has happened, but this whole universe is complicated. much more than we can understand.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do.

Thats insulting quite a lot of people.

I go sometimes. I read sometimes, but only for practise at public speaking. I'm catholic, so my parents like me to go. But if I'm not in a good mood, I wouldn't push myself to go or anything.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by Spike
No. I don't believe in the whole religion thing and its pathetic people do. Excuse me?
Theres no need to diss what people belive

There is, anyone with abit of common sense realises that religion is just all lies and not true.
If people want to believe in it good for them but I think they are being stupid

So you're calling someone like Mother Teresa pathetic and stupid.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by Fom
Im not sure if its right. But there are ideas to what has happened, but this whole universe is complicated. much more than we can understand.


I think the latest attempt was the Inflationary model of the universe.

However yet again they violate the 1st law of thermodynamics, and we also have the issue of entropy

[srawr]

Originally posted by Sticks

I think the latest attempt was the Inflationary model of the universe.

However yet again they violate the 1st law of thermodynamics, and we also have the issue of entropy

zomg Sticks, I cannot believe that you just invoked the world of physics, specifically thermodynamics. I am :spin: and :laugh: because I just learned that today in school. Can't stand my physics class. :yuk:

Anyway, back on topic...No, I don't go to church. My parents never made me go, as they wanted me to make my own decision about it. My grandmother, who works in the church office, used to "push" religion on us, and that's when I started to drift away from church. The last time I stepped in a church, barring school, was May of 2007.

Long-winded, right? Well, that's my 2 cents.

[Nurse57]

I personally (note I said personally) find the idea of there being a greater being, daft. I just can't believe it. But each to their own. If you are religious and you are happy, then fair play.

[Rex=Legend]

Originally posted by Sticks
Originally posted by Fom
Im not sure if its right. But there are ideas to what has happened, but this whole universe is complicated. much more than we can understand.


I think the latest attempt was the Inflationary model of the universe.

However yet again they violate the 1st law of thermodynamics, and we also have the issue of entropy
And again why is Religion always the assumed solution when Science falls short.