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James
17-06-2004, 10:36 AM
From C4 website


Fight Night!
Day 21, 09:16
Thursday 17 June

Tempers erupted in the Big Brother House last night - leaving the place in a state of chaos. Victor and Emma were separated by security, and Jason and Marco and Vanessa and Nadia all went head to head.

The animosity between Emma and Victor exploded when, during a playful food fight, Emma's volume control went haywire. Incensed by her screeching Victor lost it, big time. A food fight escalated into tray-throwing, Emma first, Victor retaliating, before the two had to be dragged apart screaming insults and threats at each other.

"Do you know who I am?" Victor bellowed repeatedly.

"I'll *******ing kill you," screamed Emma, before being dragged away by Dan.

She failed to calm down enough to remain in the House, so Big Brother asked her to return to the Bedsit.

Previously another row had erupted between Jason and Marco. Marco's delight at the return of his bestest allies Emma and Michelle spilled over into a dance of "disrespect". At least that's how Jay saw it.

Jay started blustering around telling anyone who'd listen, and there weren't many volunteers, that the mess from the earlier food fight would have to be cleared up. When Marco performed a loud and camp jig in his face, the burly Scot exploded and shouted at the law student.

"How dare you intimidate me!" squealed Marco, choosing not to call Jay "Darling" in this instance.

"You dance like that again, and I'll take your *******king head off," came the muscle-bound reply.

Don't *******ing mess with me

With Jason pumped and ready for trouble Nadia and Emma stepped between him and Marco to protect him. Marco giggled at the back, but Jason was deadly serious.

While Dan and Stuart attempted to keep the peace Vanessa started shouting at Nadia.

Then, for the first time in Big Brother history, security entered the House to restore order.

With Emma safely ensconced in the Bedsit the other members of the House scattered themselves about the place as they all tried to calm down.

We bet there'll be a few sore heads this morning...

kaphc
17-06-2004, 10:52 AM
And they've still got another 5/6 weeks of the show to fill ... what else can possibly happen that hasn't already?!!

BusyBee
17-06-2004, 11:23 AM
Emma must have been in a right state if she had to be removed to the bedsit. She was so hyper that she just completely lost control. At least BB had the sense to remove her so she could calm down. Wonder if they called a doctor.

Stu xxx
17-06-2004, 11:26 AM
you saw what an emotional state she was in when Victor said something about her when she was in the bedsit last week - diary room hysterics - christ knows what she was like last night! mind you i have warmed to her this week xxx

signature_maker
17-06-2004, 11:30 AM
I wonder how everyone will react when Emma is allowed back into the house... also, did you notice there was no alarm this morning, well it is 12.38 now and still no alarm.

Amy
17-06-2004, 05:18 PM
Emma being removed is a good thing I agree but I cannot see these two living together so I think they both need to go another fight like this could cause more than just tears and tantrums.

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 05:27 PM
If she does enter and another fight happens between emma and victor, i bet they will both be shown the door.

Well let's hope it happens, tibb got up to 28 to 30 new members because of the fight last night and up to 300 members on the page at the same time.:laugh:

liliacqueen
17-06-2004, 05:28 PM
emma is still in the bedsit poor girl id be so bored

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by liliacqueen
emma is still in the bedsit poor girl id be so bored

Yes, but maybe she will learn her lession about not getting hysterical and keeping her mouth shut.

dustmite
17-06-2004, 05:47 PM
I have to say the house is proving quite fascinating without Emma, you can see who really is into playing the game, and continuing to play the game, even at this moment in time.

What I'm finding amazing is how their reconciliation is going, particularly compared with the 'truth' that was seen on BBLB today, which I was truely amazed by.

Amy
17-06-2004, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by liliacqueen
emma is still in the bedsit poor girl id be so bored

I hope someone from BB has spoken to Emma not just to give her a telling off but to see that she's ok! I know she was a big part of last nights events and was no angel but to be shut in the bedsit with nothing but your thoughts is not always a good thing.

kaphc
17-06-2004, 06:21 PM
I would certainly hope that Emma has seen a psychologist and had some counselling about anger management, as well as a lot of support in dealing with the situation that she has been put in.

bananarama
17-06-2004, 07:19 PM
I would hope they give her some video's to watch to occupy her mind and some good food for her to throw at the mirrors to cheer her self up. :laugh:

After all Emma has played a key role uping the viewing stats and no doubt the money when eviction time comes.

dustmite
17-06-2004, 07:23 PM
They've provided her with a CD Walkman/Player to listen to which she is merrily singing along to.

kaphc
17-06-2004, 07:25 PM
Well at least she has something to do then, which is good.

But seriously, even though she is good for the show's viewing figures, her welfare must be paramount.

Amy
17-06-2004, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by dustmite
They've provided her with a CD Walkman/Player to listen to which she is merrily singing along to.

She'll be in her element with that! It was nice to see that she seemed ok in the bedsit, I could see the others were but we'd not seen a lot of Emma.

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Amy
Originally posted by dustmite
They've provided her with a CD Walkman/Player to listen to which she is merrily singing along to.

She'll be in her element with that! It was nice to see that she seemed ok in the bedsit, I could see the others were but we'd not seen a lot of Emma.

Victor still doesn't want to see emma's face, he's talking to dan right now and he said " i don't want to see her, i know if i see her i'll be annoyed"

Sweetpea
17-06-2004, 07:31 PM
I think poor Emma has been dealt the bad blow in this whole situation, I think we would have all reacted in the same way in her position. After all it isn't a normal everyday enviroment is it?

I think Emma is far more entertaining than most of that house put together after she was put in the bedsit with Michelle the place died off. Guess we will be going back to BB4 lol. Hope not cause I for one will be pulling the plug if we do lol

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 07:32 PM
Victors now saying to dan (" she will lose, she's mad. ") Ohh victor! just let it go.

Amy
17-06-2004, 07:34 PM
:rolleyes:

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 07:36 PM
Victor just won't stop and he will not say he is also in the wrong.

He's pinning the blame on emma! these two are never going to get on Amy

Amy
17-06-2004, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Hooly One
He's pinning the blame on emma! these two are never going to get on Amy

No they probably won't. In a normal working day they would tolerate each other but they are together 24-7. I don't like everyone I know but tolerate them, if I did'nt I'd end up like those two. what are they arguing about again? If I remember rightly it's about a toilet, now is that worth fighting for???

Sweetpea
17-06-2004, 07:42 PM
Lol I agree Amy. We all have to tolerate some people in our lives. But as I keep saying I think if Victor keeps this up he should go.

dustmite
17-06-2004, 07:50 PM
However much it hates me to admit this, I actually think Emma needs to go. Primarily because with her influence certain people become utterly pathetic, like Marco turning into a little child... the danger with the group of this year is that certain people snap at a certain point, and it's not just Jay or Victor. Particularly when you consider that it was Nadia who flipped over the table.

If Emma wasn't reintroduced, I'm fairly certain that none of this would have happened, so perhaps it's in the interests of the show to remove Emma. Victor, whilst I can't stand him, is interesting to watch because he's absolutely pathetic in his approach.

Amy
17-06-2004, 07:54 PM
I say you cannot remove Emma alone she was not the only cause of the argument you also have to remove Victor.

dustmite
17-06-2004, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by Amy
I say you cannot remove Emma alone she was not the only cause of the argument you also have to remove Victor.
I'm just thinking of it in a form of what would save the show from having another argument, irrespective of who caused it, merely who accentuates people's behaviour... as she has a bad habit of making Marco and Nadia turn into little children.

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 08:00 PM
The police are investigating and they might charge emma or victor for an offence or drop the whole investigation.

Victor2Win
17-06-2004, 08:00 PM
KICK HER FROM BIG BRO

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 08:01 PM
And why?if anyone's going to get kicked out, it should be the both of them.

dustmite
17-06-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Hooly One
The police are investigating and they might charge emma or victor for an offence or drop the whole investigation.
I'll imagine they'll drop it, there's hardly any grounds for prosecution really, perhaps grounds for a police caution/warning, but very little more than that. In reality, it's little more than a drunken brawl in your local.

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 08:03 PM
Very True Dustmite:thumbs:

Amy
17-06-2004, 08:06 PM
Why does Victor have to use the my sisters will go after her once she out of here :nono:

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 08:13 PM
It's very childish!:mad:

I really can't stand him, he drives me mad..:mad:

dustmite
17-06-2004, 08:18 PM
I can see his sisters giving him a good slapping, to be honest...

Amy
17-06-2004, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by dustmite
I can see his sisters giving him a good slapping, to be honest...

:laugh::laugh:

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 08:33 PM
I hope they do dustmite

lauren5299
17-06-2004, 08:56 PM
I think Victor's treated Emma and the other housemates badly he constantly is intimidating them he should grow up and stop behaving like a school playground bully!

Kanye_West
17-06-2004, 08:59 PM
whyd oes emma have to go my family will sort him out... works both ways dont c u saying that bit tho..:thumbs:

LEE
17-06-2004, 09:02 PM
I'd forgotten Emma had said that. I've made my opinions well known anyway - I think they are both as bad as each other and the house would be a better place if neither of them were there.

Amy
17-06-2004, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Kanye_West
whyd oes emma have to go my family will sort him out... works both ways dont c u saying that bit tho..:thumbs:

I never knew she's said that :shocked:
Well as I said earlier it takes two!! LEE's right they're as bad as each other

Sticks
17-06-2004, 10:19 PM
And people kept saying Michelle was the bunny boiler

From what I could see she tried to keep out of it.

I am just glad I did not get assigned to be Emma's Cyber Devil's Advocate or Victors.

This is probably not my place, conflict of interest here wrt to my current client, but the one person that needs to be extracted for their own welfare is Shell. She is not coping and when Venessa goes on Friday, Shell will be further traumatised.

Kore
17-06-2004, 10:20 PM
I want too keep Vanessa in for shell :bawling:, but i want dan to stay too :bawling::bawling:

golden~rose
17-06-2004, 10:22 PM
yeah she will, no one really understands her better than vanessa!! i would say dan but then i was quite shocked when shell nominated him too. i do feel sorry for her but not sorry enough to feel that vanessa should stay. dans a stronger individual and much more stable and i dont like vanessa!!

Kore
17-06-2004, 10:23 PM
Yeah xishax, i know you hate Vanessa, LOL :bawling: sadly i think the majority of people hate her, and therefor she will go friday, left with a sad shell looking on

golden~rose
17-06-2004, 10:26 PM
lol, ill stop mentioning that now :thumbs: i do really feel sorry for shell when i saw her in the bathroom floor in tears!!!

eebroo
17-06-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by Amy
I say you cannot remove Emma alone she was not the only cause of the argument you also have to remove Victor.

If you think Victor should go, what about Marco & Nadia ?. Victor didn't start the argument, it was Marco & Nadia.

golden~rose
17-06-2004, 10:32 PM
yeah but victor and jays facial expressions were provocative!!! and that fact the emma blurted everything out to marco and nadia meant that they experieced their initial reactions causing them to confront then and then!!!

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by eebroo
Originally posted by Amy
I say you cannot remove Emma alone she was not the only cause of the argument you also have to remove Victor.

If you think Victor should go, what about Marco & Nadia ?. Victor didn't start the argument, it was Marco & Nadia.

No, victor was provocative and intimidating and jason started it.

I don't like emma myself, but emma was only being frantic and stupid..

God help us! why do these people like jay or vile victor? these two are evil and a vindictive pair.

golden~rose
17-06-2004, 10:34 PM
^so agree, cant understand why people like them more than marcos harem.

Kore
17-06-2004, 10:36 PM
Hooly, are you mad?!, Jason didnt start the fight at all, it was marco and nadia who started it you fool! :spin: (laughs)

golden~rose
17-06-2004, 10:37 PM
emma to blame because she told them everything. she didnt even let the night go :bored:

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by Kore
Hooly, are you mad?!, Jason didnt start the fight at all, it was marco and nadia who started it you fool! :spin: (laughs)

Have you gone totally insane?

Jason walked in after the food fight and said aggressively to marco " I hope your *******ing going to clean this mess up" marco said "Yes i will" then nadia said " We will clean it, in are own time" and then it got heated..

Your making your own story up of what happened, to suit yourself

golden~rose
17-06-2004, 10:55 PM
oh yes, it was jason, what drove him to do it was that his two faveourite girls were crying the bedroom and he walked out to confront them!!

Kore
17-06-2004, 10:58 PM
Hooly, it seems you are the one, changing the story to suit yourself, after he said yes i will they started laughing and danced in HIS FACE!!!!, unnecceptable, now how cud i be makin that up to suit myself is i just watched it with my own eyes on c4!, :bored::hugesmile:

golden~rose
17-06-2004, 10:59 PM
ok people, enough, i suggest you both watch the clip again to make sure that you're both right :spin:

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by xishax
oh yes, it was jason, what drove him to do it was that his two faveourite girls were crying the bedroom and he walked out to confront them!!

He should of handled the situation maturely, but instead he got really aggressive.

golden~rose
17-06-2004, 11:01 PM
well, his 'love' was in pain and he couldnt bare to see her cry :devil:

Kore
17-06-2004, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Hooly One
Originally posted by xishax
oh yes, it was jason, what drove him to do it was that his two faveourite girls were crying the bedroom and he walked out to confront them!!

He should of handled the situation maturely, but instead he got really aggressive.

I would have gone nuts if peopel made my best friends cry in the bathroom, and then danced in my face too!

hooly you would aswell, its just you have a thing against jason, hehe, havnt you?

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Kore
Hooly, it seems you are the one, changing the story to suit yourself, after he said yes i will they started laughing and danced in HIS FACE!!!!, unnecceptable, now how cud i be makin that up to suit myself is i just watched it with my own eyes on c4!, :bored::hugesmile:

I weak come back kore..:rolleyes:

What i said before was true and yes marco went up to his face.

Only because he wanted to stand up to him and to get on jay's nerves, for the way jay was aggressive to him.

Kore
17-06-2004, 11:07 PM
Hooly, Jay was a bit agressive, because marco just upset his best friends and was acting all funny to him, and then started jumping and dancing in his face, i wudnt stand for that, jay kept himself and didnt hit marco, jason is cool:thumbs:

golden~rose
17-06-2004, 11:09 PM
:conf:

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Kore
Originally posted by Hooly One
Originally posted by xishax
oh yes, it was jason, what drove him to do it was that his two faveourite girls were crying the bedroom and he walked out to confront them!!

He should of handled the situation maturely, but instead he got really aggressive.

I would have gone nuts if peopel made my best friends cry in the bathroom, and then danced in my face too!

hooly you would aswell, its just you have a thing against jason, hehe, havnt you?

Yes you would, because your probably a bit immature and you should be for your age, where an adult would act mature.

Jason is a snake in the grass, he really was spoiling for a fight

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Kore
Hooly, Jay was a bit agressive, because marco just upset his best friends and was acting all funny to him, and then started jumping and dancing in his face, i wudnt stand for that, jay kept himself and didnt hit marco, jason is cool:thumbs:

Umm no the girls where upset over two things, the food fight and van being up for eviction.

Jay took it to far and went on his own ramage

golden~rose
17-06-2004, 11:16 PM
the girls can handle themselves :rolleyes:

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 11:17 PM
He used it has an excuse to try and put them in there places and to intimidate

Kore
17-06-2004, 11:17 PM
OMG hooly, what the hell are you on about, for my age, 16 isnt exatly 6 you know.... he was acting mature, AND YOU THINK HAVING A FOOD FIGHT IS MATURE ...HAH!

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Kore
OMG hooly, what the hell are you on about, for my age, 16 isnt exatly 6 you know.... he was acting mature, AND YOU THINK HAVING A FOOD FIGHT IS MATURE ...HAH!

I didn't agree with the food fight, so don't put words into my mouth.

See your doing what i said you where doing, making things up to suit yourself. I never said i agreed! :rolleyes:

It was immature of them to have a food fight, but jay was still aggressive

Kore
17-06-2004, 11:25 PM
He wasnt agressive, your making that up, to suit yourself, lol
he was a bit upset bout shell and vanessa being sad
:wavey: he wasnt being immature, he was being sensible, but.. im off to bed now, ill read what else you say in the morning hooly, (hehe), cya guys, cya hooly....... ps jason is cool

nigra
17-06-2004, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Hooly One

Yes you would, because your probably a bit immature and you should be for your age, where an adult would act mature.

Jason is a snake in the grass, he really was spoiling for a fight

One needs to analyse the reason for Jason's desire to fight. Upon such analysis it is clear that he thought that he had a good chance of winning BB5 having seen the apparent break up of Marco's harem (Marco, Nadia, Michelle & Emma), the major alliance in the house, and reducing it to only Marco and Nadia. He had formed a strategic alliance with Vanessa, Shell (through Vanessa), Victor and had cemented his relationship with Stuart now that Michelle had left the house. Earlier in the show he had bonded with Dan through means of flirting. Finally he did not perceive Ahmed as any significant threat.

Upon the surprise return of Emma and Michelle Jason was quick to realise that he had been fooled into believing he may have an excellent chance of winning and it was also quite clear to him that certain events in the house (victor's mystery cold showers & his matress being egged & wetted) had something to do with the devious pair. This realisation occurred when Emma related stuff to Victor (in Jason's presence) that Victor had said in her absence.

Further, Jason was being wound up by the food fight, the state of the house after the food fight, Victor's ramblings of how he was going to flip on Emma and Marco et al's perceived lack of respect towards him when he ordered them to clean the house tommorow. The alcohol served to lower the threshold where housemates let go of their emotions.

Hooly One
17-06-2004, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Kore
He wasnt agressive, your making that up, to suit yourself, lol
he was a bit upset bout shell and vanessa being sad
:wavey: he wasnt being immature, he was being sensible, but.. I'm off to bed now, ill read what else you say in the morning hooly, (hehe), cya guys, cya hooly....... ps jason is cool

God! your like talking to a brick wall..:rolleyes::hugesmile:

Well i'm waiting for someone to back me up on what i'm saying, i know i'm not lying

Nite

spurtmeister
17-06-2004, 11:40 PM
am i missing something here?

endemol are the only guilty party. bb4 was so bad they chose volatile housemates who would clash bigtime (good) but then went too far with the bedsit idea...the whole point of bb (imho) is that housemates say one thing to someone's face and something else behind their back, and we love it because WE know what's happening but the housemates are blissfully aware. that's the whole point of the show.

emma (who i have gone off totally since she entered the bedsit) was always gonna handle it badly and set this kind of thing off...can you imagine knowing what everybody really secretly thinks about you and having several days to mull it over? so how would a 5-year old (ie emma) react?

i don't honestly see how bb5 can continue after this but doubtless it will and i'll keep watching...for me they have to lose emma and jason and things may work out (victor is too harmless and hapless to throw out, all talk no action)....

nigra
17-06-2004, 11:50 PM
Spurtmeister totally agree with your comment about Victor, all bark and no bite. Incidentally, did you guys realise how the public vote was biased in favour of voting Emma and Michelle into the bedsit rather than any other combination of the three housemates who were supposedly up for eviction, the third of whom was Ahmed? IMO it would have been quite fun to see Ahmed and one of the girls in the bedsit. It would have made excellent viewing, especially since neither of the girls get on with him at all. Also, if the housemates voted to evict Emma and Michelle and felt that they have been cheated by Big Brother, they may all decide to vote them out again when the next nominations are up. I hope they do.

Animal
18-06-2004, 12:07 AM
There was always going to be a fight of somesort, Emma was furious about what was said, Vic & Jay were furious about them being back in the house. It was inevitable, and planned be endemol (you heard the things Davina was saying before they let them into the house)

Kore, i'm sorry, but i really have to disagree with you, Jason was going to kick off and he was the first one to instigate aggresive behaviour, the way he spoke to Marco was out of hand and i'm no Marco fan. He was provoking a fight, simple, if someone spoke to me like that i wouldn't stand for it either.
In his own words "I'm going to explode" and an hour or two later, he did.

Hooly One
18-06-2004, 12:18 AM
I agree animal and i'm no marco fan to
:thumbs:

dustmite
18-06-2004, 12:29 AM
The ex-SAS guy, Ken, on BBLB pointed out very clearly that Jason was gearing up for a fight, so what was going to happen was inevitable, but somehow the psychologists on team didn't notice... there's a surprise... now, I wonder who'll be getting their P45s on Monday?

Kore
18-06-2004, 03:08 AM
alright, lol

BusyBee
18-06-2004, 08:22 AM
Quite agree Jason it was possible to see the anger growing inside him. It was building and building and at one stage he was bound to explode. As has been said if we could see it why couldnt BB or did they want something like this to happen.

One of my friends actually thinks they are all actors and have specific parts to play i.e. its all rigged.

As for Emma the fact that she has had to stay in the bed-sit for so long shows what a state she must have been in. As far as I am concerned Emma would be better leaving now, she will not be able to contain herself if that house. Victor and Jason will wind and wind her up until she loses it again no matter what they say to hers and others faces.

BB has a lot to answer for as far as that young girl is concerned. She is going to need a lot of help.

Sunny_01
18-06-2004, 08:41 AM
Is Emma back in the house yet or is she still in the bedsit?????

Hooly One
18-06-2004, 06:02 PM
She's still in the bedsit, i think she might be going back into the house tonight..

kaphc
18-06-2004, 06:37 PM
Maybe that's one of the things that they will show tonight on the C4 shows. (i.e. emma going back into the house - again!)

bananarama
18-06-2004, 06:57 PM
Jason is far from "Harmless" Daniel when talking to the housemates described him as a "Coiled spring" and I couldn't agree more.