Britney Spears is NOT a bad mother.

[DamonJ]

Yeah; lock the thread, issue a warning, but this comment made my Mrs_RKO & Spike was utterly unconsiderate and harsh.

Britney is not a bad mother, and if you are referring to the time when she almost dropped Sean Preston (like most people usually do), I'd really like to see you, rushing on a cobbled street, with 50+ papparazzi, trying to put a baby into a car.

Yes, Britney has made some errors while having her children, all of which are experience, she has admitted that she had done some wrong, but she is getting her life back on track. Just compare her to Kevin Federline, partying almost every night in Vegas, never seen with the kids, before commenting on anyone else's parenting skills!

[Arneldo]

But she is a bad singer.

[MarkWaldorf]

Lmao Damon don't worry about it.
The things that said that are just vile creatures.

[Lauren]

I find it hilarious how some young children feel their opinion is so valid that they can comment on someone's parenting, and whether it is bad.

[Matt10k]

"Leave britney alone!!!"

Sorry, couldn't resist :tongue:

[DamonJ]

Originally posted by Arneldo
But she is a bad singer.

83 Million Records Sold?
Uhmm.. no, not really.

Her voice has of course though changed over time, because she smokes and how her voice has changed with age.

But of course you are entitled to your opinion =D

[Sarah.]

If we're entitled to our opinion like you just said, we have every right to think she is a bad mother. :)

[Sam!]

I agree with you and don't think shes a bad mother at all, shes had troubles.. specially last year but shes picking up the pieces and is now trying to get her kids back. Someone who was a bad mother, wouldnt give a flying ******, she does.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by DamonJ
Originally posted by Arneldo
But she is a bad singer.

83 Million Records Sold?
Uhmm.. no, not really.


Since when does sales prove anything?!

Cliff Richard sells a lot you know :joker:

Her voice is awful!

[Spike]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions
I think she is a bad mother, you don't
Britney fans make me laugh how they defend her all the time.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by mrs_rko
If we're entitled to our opinion like you just said, we have every right to think she is a bad mother. :)

And we're entitled to say your opinion is unfounded.

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Spike
Everyone is entitled to their opinions
I think she is a bad mother, you don't
Britney fans make me laugh how they defend her all the time.
WHAT? its called being a fan.
Just because no one loves you doesn't mean you can question how defensive her fans are.

[DamonJ]

Originally posted by mrs_rko
If we're entitled to our opinion like you just said, we have every right to think she is a bad mother. :)

But you're not backing up your statement with proof or reasoning on why you think she is a bad mother, an opinion isn't a valid one unless there is a reason behind it.

[Sam!]

Originally posted by Spike
Everyone is entitled to their opinions
I think she is a bad mother, you don't
Britney fans make me laugh how they defend her all the time.

I aint a Britney fan and Im defending her probably because its one thing to call somebody something so harsh when you don't even know the person to an extent.

[Sarah.]

Insulting in the process? Sure...

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by mrs_rko
If we're entitled to our opinion like you just said, we have every right to think she is a bad mother. :)

And we're entitled to say your opinion is unfounded.

And we're entitled to tell you your opinion of our opinion of that opnion is err... I give up :bigsmile:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by mrs_rko
If we're entitled to our opinion like you just said, we have every right to think she is a bad mother. :)

And we're entitled to say your opinion is unfounded.

And we're entitled to tell you your opinion of our opinion of that opnion is err... I give up :bigsmile:

I gave up long ago, so you win haha :hugesmile:

[Lauren]

Back on topic, WITHOUT insults.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by mrs_rko
If we're entitled to our opinion like you just said, we have every right to think she is a bad mother. :)

And we're entitled to say your opinion is unfounded.

And we're entitled to tell you your opinion of our opinion of that opnion is err... I give up :bigsmile:

I gave up long ago, so you win haha :hugesmile:

But I never win anything. Wahoo! :bigsmile:

[Matt10k]

Back on topic, I think some would say she was a bad mother because of things she has done. Wasn't she caught drink driving with the kids in the back?

[DamonJ]

I'm just tired of everyone commenting on her parenting skills when they never provide a reason for it. They always refer back to the times when she almost drops one when she is beibng hounded by paparazzi, or the January 3rd incident.

Oh yeah, why did the Jan 3 incident happen? Because she wanted to stay with her children & not give them back to Kevin Federline. If all a bad mother wants to do is stay with her children, I'd hate to see a really bad one.

[Shaun]

Well she's hardly a good mother.

[DamonJ]

Originally posted by Shaun
Well she's hardly a good mother.

Why?

[MarkWaldorf]

A bad mother is someone who beats their kids. There are mothers who KILL their kids. If Britney's a bad mother, I'd like to see what kind of mothers they're called...

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by DamonJ
Originally posted by Shaun
Well she's hardly a good mother.

Why?

Dropping her baby lol! Just kidding. Seriously tho, you have to admit she may not be a bad mother but she certainly isn't a good one.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by DamonJ
Originally posted by Shaun
Well she's hardly a good mother.

Why?

I did give a reason.

[Novo]

she's a disgrace

[Shaun]

Originally posted by DamonJ
Originally posted by Shaun
Well she's hardly a good mother.

Why?

Example 1 - she lost them in a custody case to Kevin Federline. You can't be good and lose to that.

Example 2 - wasn't she photographed driving with her baby sat on her lap instead of in a baby-seat.

Example 3 - though this one isn't the case any more, apparently - she USED to go out, get drunk and make a fool of herself. Whilst this didn't directly affect her children then; it's hardly setting a great role model to her children. They're going to grow up and hear stories like that. Maybe they'll be the same aged 18.

I could say more but I'm not too interested in the subject tbh :tongue: I just thought I'd stick my oar in :laugh2:

[Sarah.]

Well, she's far from a good one, seriously now, you can't be oblivious to this because you're a 'fan'.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Markus
A bad mother is someone who beats their kids. There are mothers who KILL their kids. If Britney's a bad mother, I'd like to see what kind of mothers they're called...

Thats ridiculous, talk about an extremist opinion. And that what it is - an opinion and it's just your one. Someone else may consider how Britney behaves is being a bad mother and you should gracefully except that because it's their opinion and they're entitled to it, same as you are entitled to yours.

[Tom]

Getting married to random men? Being a media *****? Playing on an illness?

Yep, shes a role model to all mothers out there.

[Shaun]

Oh and I should also mention that I hope she recovers from whatever problems she has (I've forgotten now with the media focus switching to Amy Winehouse :shocked: In fact I haven't heard any Britney-is-a-mess stories in a while. She must be doing well.). I like her music :tongue: Plus she seems quite a sweet person from interviews and TV appearances I've seen with her.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Markus
A bad mother is someone who beats their kids. There are mothers who KILL their kids. If Britney's a bad mother, I'd like to see what kind of mothers they're called...

Thats ridiculous, talk about an extremist opinion. And that what it is - an opinion and it's just your one. Someone else may consider how Britney behaves is being a bad mother and you should gracefully except that because it's their opinion and they're entitled to it, same as you are entitled to yours.

You're allowed to disagree with other people's opinions though. None of this PC crap of "I have my opinion and you have yours". No. I believe my opinion is correct, otherwise it wouldn't be my opinion!

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Markus
Originally posted by Spike
Everyone is entitled to their opinions
I think she is a bad mother, you don't
Britney fans make me laugh how they defend her all the time.
WHAT? its called being a fan.
Just because no one loves you doesn't mean you can question how defensive her fans are.

You can be a fan and be respectful to other's opinion at the same time.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Markus
A bad mother is someone who beats their kids. There are mothers who KILL their kids. If Britney's a bad mother, I'd like to see what kind of mothers they're called...

Thats your opinion on what a bad mother is, i think killing kids is abit worst than bad
I think Britney is a bad mother, can't you see the obvious?

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by DamonJ
Originally posted by Shaun
Well she's hardly a good mother.

Why?

Example 1 - she lost them in a custody case to Kevin Federline. You can't be good and lose to that.

Example 2 - wasn't she photographed driving with her baby sat on her lap instead of in a baby-seat.

Example 3 - though this one isn't the case any more, apparently - she USED to go out, get drunk and make a fool of herself. Whilst this didn't directly affect her children then; it's hardly setting a great role model to her children. They're going to grow up and hear stories like that. Maybe they'll be the same aged 18.

I could say more but I'm not too interested in the subject tbh :tongue: I just thought I'd stick my oar in :laugh2:

Example 1 - She lost them because she didn't turn up for a court case and because some fat son of a bitch claimed she took drugs around them. The reason she supposedly didn't turn up was because she was too scared of loosing them, which I can understand.

Example 2 - That was because she was being hounded that day, and she didn't want to waste time strapping in her baby, so she made a quick escape. She said this in an interview.

Example 3 - Kevin hardly sees his kids. Hes always out partying, whilst Britney is at home. He took drugs on the set of the TV show he's filming. Britney was always with her kids. And who says a woman can't go out and party?

[Sarah.]

Always an excuse.

[Novo]

can you explain the upskirt shot in the car???

that was sick

[Lauren]

Originally posted by andy-dale-win
can you explain the upskirt shot in the car???

that was sick

Can you explain why the paparazzi had their camera's pointing upwards whilst she got out the car? Can you explain why this affects her parenthood?

What is sick about it?

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Markus
A bad mother is someone who beats their kids. There are mothers who KILL their kids. If Britney's a bad mother, I'd like to see what kind of mothers they're called...

Thats ridiculous, talk about an extremist opinion. And that what it is - an opinion and it's just your one. Someone else may consider how Britney behaves is being a bad mother and you should gracefully except that because it's their opinion and they're entitled to it, same as you are entitled to yours.

You're allowed to disagree with other people's opinions though. None of this PC c**p of "I have my opinion and you have yours". No. I believe my opinion is correct, otherwise it wouldn't be my opinion!

Thats fine, that's your opinion. I can accept that and respect it. I'm not denying you the right to disagree with me. I'm just asking that people could be a little bit more open minded. Some people on here don't even really read the posts. I mean yes they read to words but not the point behind them, they just see, "Britney . . . bad mother . . ." and immediately sring into action to defend her without even really taking what the other person has said to mind.

[Tom]

Originally posted by andy-dale-win
can you explain the upskirt shot in the car???

that was sick

In fairness photographers go for the worst angle possible to get something like that. There was a famous case with a celebrity (I've forgot who) where the photographer literally put the camera up someones skirt and took a picture. Female celebrities have to be careful getting out of cars because photographers lie on the floor for low angle shots.

[Spike]

The defending of Britney is making me laugh so much
The excuses being made for some of the reasons she is a bad mother are pathetic.
ok you're a fan of Britney, doesn't mean you have to excuse her for all her actions, I am a fan of Jade Goody but I can't excuse her for he racism.
Are you just trying to be a good little fans?

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Markus
Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by DamonJ
Originally posted by Shaun
Well she's hardly a good mother.

Why?

Example 1 - she lost them in a custody case to Kevin Federline. You can't be good and lose to that.

Example 2 - wasn't she photographed driving with her baby sat on her lap instead of in a baby-seat.

Example 3 - though this one isn't the case any more, apparently - she USED to go out, get drunk and make a fool of herself. Whilst this didn't directly affect her children then; it's hardly setting a great role model to her children. They're going to grow up and hear stories like that. Maybe they'll be the same aged 18.

I could say more but I'm not too interested in the subject tbh :tongue: I just thought I'd stick my oar in :laugh2:

Example 1 - She lost them because she didn't turn up for a court case and because some fat son of a bitch claimed she took drugs around them. The reason she supposedly didn't turn up was because she was too scared of loosing them, which I can understand.

Example 2 - That was because she was being hounded that day, and she didn't want to waste time strapping in her baby, so she made a quick escape. She said this in an interview.

Example 3 - Kevin hardly sees his kids. Hes always out partying, whilst Britney is at home. He took drugs on the set of the TV show he's filming. Britney was always with her kids. And who says a woman can't go out and party?

1 - Whether or not she was 'scared of turning up', that's a piss-poor excuse for not at least trying to fight for their custody.

2 - Fair enough, I'm sure all mothers make some mistakes like that anyway.

3 - Indeed, which makes the fact she lost custody to him somewhat harder to swallow. And I don't know; society? What kind of image does that set to her children?

[Matt10k]

She could at least learn to wear pants! You can take the girl out the trailer park but you can't... ah whatever.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Spike
The defending of Britney is making me laugh so much
The excuses being made for some of the reasons she is a bad mother are pathetic.
ok you're a fan of Britney, doesn't mean you have to excuse her for all her actions, I am a fan of Jade Goody but I can't excuse her for he racism.
Are you just trying to be a good little fans?

OMG! Don't get me started on Jade Goody, she was not racist but anyway thats a whole other thread!:kiss:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Matt10k
She could at least learn to wear pants! You can take the girl out the trailer park but you can't... ah whatever.

How do you know she wasn't? You could only just see past the thighs, it was hardly clear.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Matt10k
She could at least learn to wear pants! You can take the girl out the trailer park but you can't... ah whatever.

How do you know she wasn't? You could only just see past the thighs, it was hardly clear.

I've seen one that's a bit clearer than that!

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Markus
Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by DamonJ
Originally posted by Shaun
Well she's hardly a good mother.

Why?

Example 1 - she lost them in a custody case to Kevin Federline. You can't be good and lose to that.

Example 2 - wasn't she photographed driving with her baby sat on her lap instead of in a baby-seat.

Example 3 - though this one isn't the case any more, apparently - she USED to go out, get drunk and make a fool of herself. Whilst this didn't directly affect her children then; it's hardly setting a great role model to her children. They're going to grow up and hear stories like that. Maybe they'll be the same aged 18.

I could say more but I'm not too interested in the subject tbh :tongue: I just thought I'd stick my oar in :laugh2:

Example 1 - She lost them because she didn't turn up for a court case and because some fat son of a bitch claimed she took drugs around them. The reason she supposedly didn't turn up was because she was too scared of loosing them, which I can understand.


Thats even worse! It means she was to **** scared of getting caught out for taking crac that she didn't even bother turning up to the court case that could've potentially loose her children.

Oh and please don't say that she didn't take drugs because neither you nor I have proof that she did or didn't.

[Novo]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Matt10k
She could at least learn to wear pants! You can take the girl out the trailer park but you can't... ah whatever.

How do you know she wasn't? You could only just see past the thighs, it was hardly clear.

I've seen one that's a bit clearer than that!

i have as well

[Spike]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Spike
The defending of Britney is making me laugh so much
The excuses being made for some of the reasons she is a bad mother are pathetic.
ok you're a fan of Britney, doesn't mean you have to excuse her for all her actions, I am a fan of Jade Goody but I can't excuse her for he racism.
Are you just trying to be a good little fans?

OMG! Don't get me started on Jade Goody, she was not racist but anyway thats a whole other thread!:kiss:

Yeah I defended Jade until the transcripts were released with the racists comments, so I couldn't defend her for that
Some people obviously just can't accept Britney is a bad mother and carry on kidding themselves she is a good mother

[Legend]

None of us live with her, nobody sees how she treats and looks after her kids at home, etc, so not one person on here can say she's a bad or a good mother. None of you have any idea what kind of mother she is like, despite what's been reported in the press [I don't even know what's been said as I've no interest in her] as we are only reading what some journalist has conjourned up. Though on the flip side, people who state she isn't a bad mum, that's equally as dumb, as you aren't living with her day in, day out, you therefore don't know how she treats and looks after her kids so you can't say one way or another whether she is a good or a bad mum and to state 'she is' or 'she isn't' is complete bull, as in actual fact, you've no idea whatsoever.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Matt10k
She could at least learn to wear pants! You can take the girl out the trailer park but you can't... ah whatever.

How do you know she wasn't? You could only just see past the thighs, it was hardly clear.

I've seen one that's a bit clearer than that!

Even if she was - so what?
Also, proves nothing about her parenthood.

And before someone throws the childish view back that it's just her fans defending her - I'm not a fan.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Legend
None of us live with her, nobody sees how she treats and looks after her kids at home, etc, so not one person on here can say she's a bad or a good mother. None of you have any idea what kind of mother she is like, despite what's been reported in the press [I don't even know what's been said as I've no interest in her] as we are only reading what some journalist has conjourned up. Though on the flip side, people who state she isn't a bad mum, that's equally as dumb, as you aren't living with her day in, day out, you therefore don't know how she treats and looks after her kids so you can't say one way or another whether she is a good or a bad mum and to state 'she is' or 'she isn't' is complete bull, as in actual fact, you've no idea whatsoever.

Yes but going on what we do know or at least believe.

[Tom]

Christina Aguilera is just better all round :bouncy:

I remember at one point she wanted to be Britney.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Matt10k
She could at least learn to wear pants! You can take the girl out the trailer park but you can't... ah whatever.

How do you know she wasn't? You could only just see past the thighs, it was hardly clear.

I've seen one that's a bit clearer than that!

Even if she was - so what?
Also, proves nothing about her parenthood.

And before someone throws the childish view back that it's just her fans defending her - I'm not a fan.

I wasn't saying that, someone just mentioned her getting out of a cab so I thought I'd mention she needs to learn to wear pants! Obviously she does it purposly for the publicity but still.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Spike
The defending of Britney is making me laugh so much
The excuses being made for some of the reasons she is a bad mother are pathetic.
ok you're a fan of Britney, doesn't mean you have to excuse her for all her actions, I am a fan of Jade Goody but I can't excuse her for he racism.
Are you just trying to be a good little fans?

OMG! Don't get me started on Jade Goody, she was not racist but anyway thats a whole other thread!:kiss:

Yeah I defended Jade until the transcripts were released with the racists comments, so I couldn't defend her for that
Some people obviously just can't accept Britney is a bad mother and carry on kidding themselves she is a good mother

I'll stand by that Jade is stupid not racist. But lets just leave that.:hug:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Tom
Christina Aguilera is just better all round :bouncy:

I remember at one point she wanted to be Britney.

She cancelled her tour when I was little to go sex toy shopping :mad: No refund given.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Tom
Christina Aguilera is just better all round :bouncy:

I remember at one point she wanted to be Britney.

Christina kicks Brit's ass!

Long live X-Tina!

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Matt10k

I wasn't saying that, someone just mentioned her getting out of a cab so I thought I'd mention she needs to learn to wear pants! Obviously she does it purposly for the publicity but still.

I would too, if I was gonna get a lot of publicity and money off sad men lying on the floor in rain trying to take a picture.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Tom
Christina Aguilera is just better all round :bouncy:

I remember at one point she wanted to be Britney.

She cancelled her tour when I was little to go sex toy shopping :mad: No refund given.

I thought were discussing parenting.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Tom
Christina Aguilera is just better all round :bouncy:

I remember at one point she wanted to be Britney.

She cancelled her tour when I was little to go sex toy shopping :mad: No refund given.

I thought were discussing parenting.

We were, until a new point was introduced about Christina.

[Legend]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
None of us live with her, nobody sees how she treats and looks after her kids at home, etc, so not one person on here can say she's a bad or a good mother. None of you have any idea what kind of mother she is like, despite what's been reported in the press [I don't even know what's been said as I've no interest in her] as we are only reading what some journalist has conjourned up. Though on the flip side, people who state she isn't a bad mum, that's equally as dumb, as you aren't living with her day in, day out, you therefore don't know how she treats and looks after her kids so you can't say one way or another whether she is a good or a bad mum and to state 'she is' or 'she isn't' is complete bull, as in actual fact, you've no idea whatsoever.

Yes but going on what we do know or at least believe.

Yes, so say 'i believe she's a good/bad mother'. I just said it's bull to state that she is one way or the other when in actual fact, you really have no clue what goes on behind closed doors. She could be an amazing mum, or she could be an absolute awful one, but untill cold hard evidence proves it one way or the other, it's wrong to state it one way or the other.

Though I'll join in with everybody else here, I'm just giving my opinion. :wink: Though mine's more fact. :tongue:

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Matt10k

I wasn't saying that, someone just mentioned her getting out of a cab so I thought I'd mention she needs to learn to wear pants! Obviously she does it purposly for the publicity but still.

I would too, if I was going to get a lot of publicity and money off sad men lying on the floor in rain trying to take a picture.

Yeah but it's like she has no respect for herself at all. Being famous from a young age has messed her up methinks+ I think she makes enough money without having to degrade herself.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
None of us live with her, nobody sees how she treats and looks after her kids at home, etc, so not one person on here can say she's a bad or a good mother. None of you have any idea what kind of mother she is like, despite what's been reported in the press [I don't even know what's been said as I've no interest in her] as we are only reading what some journalist has conjourned up. Though on the flip side, people who state she isn't a bad mum, that's equally as dumb, as you aren't living with her day in, day out, you therefore don't know how she treats and looks after her kids so you can't say one way or another whether she is a good or a bad mum and to state 'she is' or 'she isn't' is complete bull, as in actual fact, you've no idea whatsoever.

Yes but going on what we do know or at least believe.

Yes, so say 'i believe she's a good/bad mother'. I just said it's bull to state that she is one way or the other when in actual fact, you really have no clue what goes on behind closed doors. She could be an amazing mum, or she could be an absolute awful one, but untill cold hard evidence proves it one way or the other, it's wrong to state it one way or the other.

Though I'll join in with everybody else here, I'm just giving my opinion. :wink: Though mine's more fact. :tongue:

Well I'm not speaking for other but my contribution to this thread has been discussing the media character that it Britney, not the real person. I, like you don't have an opinion on the real Britney, I'm simply debating the the character going by pretending everything is true. It's just a game for me lol!

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Tom
Christina Aguilera is just better all round :bouncy:

I remember at one point she wanted to be Britney.

She cancelled her tour when I was little to go sex toy shopping :mad: No refund given.

I thought were discussing parenting.

We were, until a new point was introduced about Christina.

Well I was refering to Christina's parenting.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Tom
Christina Aguilera is just better all round :bouncy:

I remember at one point she wanted to be Britney.

She cancelled her tour when I was little to go sex toy shopping :mad: No refund given.

I thought were discussing parenting.

We were, until a new point was introduced about Christina.

Well I was refering to Christina's parenting.

But I didn't quote you... I quoted Tom.

[Legend]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
None of us live with her, nobody sees how she treats and looks after her kids at home, etc, so not one person on here can say she's a bad or a good mother. None of you have any idea what kind of mother she is like, despite what's been reported in the press [I don't even know what's been said as I've no interest in her] as we are only reading what some journalist has conjourned up. Though on the flip side, people who state she isn't a bad mum, that's equally as dumb, as you aren't living with her day in, day out, you therefore don't know how she treats and looks after her kids so you can't say one way or another whether she is a good or a bad mum and to state 'she is' or 'she isn't' is complete bull, as in actual fact, you've no idea whatsoever.

Yes but going on what we do know or at least believe.

Yes, so say 'i believe she's a good/bad mother'. I just said it's bull to state that she is one way or the other when in actual fact, you really have no clue what goes on behind closed doors. She could be an amazing mum, or she could be an absolute awful one, but untill cold hard evidence proves it one way or the other, it's wrong to state it one way or the other.

Though I'll join in with everybody else here, I'm just giving my opinion. :wink: Though mine's more fact. :tongue:

Well I'm not speaking for other but my contribution to this thread has been discussing the media character that it Britney, not the real person. I, like you don't have an opinion on the real Britney, I'm simply debating the the character going by pretending everything is true. It's just a game for me lol!

Some people are really passionate about Britney [genuinely no sarcasm aimed at fans], so go play Monopoly or something. :tongue:

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
None of us live with her, nobody sees how she treats and looks after her kids at home, etc, so not one person on here can say she's a bad or a good mother. None of you have any idea what kind of mother she is like, despite what's been reported in the press [I don't even know what's been said as I've no interest in her] as we are only reading what some journalist has conjourned up. Though on the flip side, people who state she isn't a bad mum, that's equally as dumb, as you aren't living with her day in, day out, you therefore don't know how she treats and looks after her kids so you can't say one way or another whether she is a good or a bad mum and to state 'she is' or 'she isn't' is complete bull, as in actual fact, you've no idea whatsoever.

Yes but going on what we do know or at least believe.

Yes, so say 'i believe she's a good/bad mother'. I just said it's bull to state that she is one way or the other when in actual fact, you really have no clue what goes on behind closed doors. She could be an amazing mum, or she could be an absolute awful one, but untill cold hard evidence proves it one way or the other, it's wrong to state it one way or the other.

Though I'll join in with everybody else here, I'm just giving my opinion. :wink: Though mine's more fact. :tongue:

Well I'm not speaking for other but my contribution to this thread has been discussing the media character that it Britney, not the real person. I, like you don't have an opinion on the real Britney, I'm simply debating the the character going by pretending everything is true. It's just a game for me lol!

Some people are really passionate about Britney [genuinely no sarcasm aimed at fans], so go play Monopoly or something. :tongue:

I was being sarcastic.:thumbs:

[Gemmer-x]

Well im not her child so im in no position to comment tbh..

[Matt10k]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6nbYOY3Qg

[Legend]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
None of us live with her, nobody sees how she treats and looks after her kids at home, etc, so not one person on here can say she's a bad or a good mother. None of you have any idea what kind of mother she is like, despite what's been reported in the press [I don't even know what's been said as I've no interest in her] as we are only reading what some journalist has conjourned up. Though on the flip side, people who state she isn't a bad mum, that's equally as dumb, as you aren't living with her day in, day out, you therefore don't know how she treats and looks after her kids so you can't say one way or another whether she is a good or a bad mum and to state 'she is' or 'she isn't' is complete bull, as in actual fact, you've no idea whatsoever.

Yes but going on what we do know or at least believe.

Yes, so say 'i believe she's a good/bad mother'. I just said it's bull to state that she is one way or the other when in actual fact, you really have no clue what goes on behind closed doors. She could be an amazing mum, or she could be an absolute awful one, but untill cold hard evidence proves it one way or the other, it's wrong to state it one way or the other.

Though I'll join in with everybody else here, I'm just giving my opinion. :wink: Though mine's more fact. :tongue:

Well I'm not speaking for other but my contribution to this thread has been discussing the media character that it Britney, not the real person. I, like you don't have an opinion on the real Britney, I'm simply debating the the character going by pretending everything is true. It's just a game for me lol!

Some people are really passionate about Britney [genuinely no sarcasm aimed at fans], so go play Monopoly or something. :tongue:

I was being sarcastic.:thumbs:

Seriously, I'm not one of those people who needs sarcasm explained to them. :thumbs:

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Tom
Christina Aguilera is just better all round :bouncy:

I remember at one point she wanted to be Britney.

She cancelled her tour when I was little to go sex toy shopping :mad: No refund given.

I thought were discussing parenting.

We were, until a new point was introduced about Christina.

Well I was refering to Christina's parenting.

But I didn't quote you... I quoted Tom.

I know I was just clearing up that the comment that I made was about parenting.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
None of us live with her, nobody sees how she treats and looks after her kids at home, etc, so not one person on here can say she's a bad or a good mother. None of you have any idea what kind of mother she is like, despite what's been reported in the press [I don't even know what's been said as I've no interest in her] as we are only reading what some journalist has conjourned up. Though on the flip side, people who state she isn't a bad mum, that's equally as dumb, as you aren't living with her day in, day out, you therefore don't know how she treats and looks after her kids so you can't say one way or another whether she is a good or a bad mum and to state 'she is' or 'she isn't' is complete bull, as in actual fact, you've no idea whatsoever.

Yes but going on what we do know or at least believe.

Yes, so say 'i believe she's a good/bad mother'. I just said it's bull to state that she is one way or the other when in actual fact, you really have no clue what goes on behind closed doors. She could be an amazing mum, or she could be an absolute awful one, but untill cold hard evidence proves it one way or the other, it's wrong to state it one way or the other.

Though I'll join in with everybody else here, I'm just giving my opinion. :wink: Though mine's more fact. :tongue:

Well I'm not speaking for other but my contribution to this thread has been discussing the media character that it Britney, not the real person. I, like you don't have an opinion on the real Britney, I'm simply debating the the character going by pretending everything is true. It's just a game for me lol!

Some people are really passionate about Britney [genuinely no sarcasm aimed at fans], so go play Monopoly or something. :tongue:

I was being sarcastic.:thumbs:

Seriously, I'm not one of those people who needs sarcasm explained to them. :thumbs:

The you'll know that I was also being sarcastic with my last comment! Right?:thumbs2:

[Legend]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Legend
None of us live with her, nobody sees how she treats and looks after her kids at home, etc, so not one person on here can say she's a bad or a good mother. None of you have any idea what kind of mother she is like, despite what's been reported in the press [I don't even know what's been said as I've no interest in her] as we are only reading what some journalist has conjourned up. Though on the flip side, people who state she isn't a bad mum, that's equally as dumb, as you aren't living with her day in, day out, you therefore don't know how she treats and looks after her kids so you can't say one way or another whether she is a good or a bad mum and to state 'she is' or 'she isn't' is complete bull, as in actual fact, you've no idea whatsoever.

Yes but going on what we do know or at least believe.

Yes, so say 'i believe she's a good/bad mother'. I just said it's bull to state that she is one way or the other when in actual fact, you really have no clue what goes on behind closed doors. She could be an amazing mum, or she could be an absolute awful one, but untill cold hard evidence proves it one way or the other, it's wrong to state it one way or the other.

Though I'll join in with everybody else here, I'm just giving my opinion. :wink: Though mine's more fact. :tongue:

Well I'm not speaking for other but my contribution to this thread has been discussing the media character that it Britney, not the real person. I, like you don't have an opinion on the real Britney, I'm simply debating the the character going by pretending everything is true. It's just a game for me lol!

Some people are really passionate about Britney [genuinely no sarcasm aimed at fans], so go play Monopoly or something. :tongue:

I was being sarcastic.:thumbs:

Seriously, I'm not one of those people who needs sarcasm explained to them. :thumbs:

The you'll know that I was also being sarcastic with my last comment! Right?:thumbs2:

Well there's one sarcastic comment I'll need explaining to me.

Anyway, we're off topic and boring each other, so ....

Gemmer, I agree. :dance2:

[Novo]

from this

http://www.ballz.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/britney-spears-rolling-stone.jpg

to this BEAST!!!!


http://www.desifans.com/blogs/images/1555_photo.jpg

[PrimaryObjective]

Originally posted by Arneldo
But she is a bad singer.

That's a fact.

[06marsh]

Originally posted by mrs_rko
If we're entitled to our opinion like you just said, we have every right to think she is a bad mother. :)

You can have an opinion on her singing voice because you've heard her sing. You can have an opinion on how she's portrayed in the media but you can't have an opinion on her as a mother because you don't know her as a person and how she is with her children privately, away from the paps!

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by andy-dale-win
from this

http://www.ballz.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/britney-spears-rolling-stone.jpg

to this BEAST!!!!


http://www.desifans.com/blogs/images/1555_photo.jpg

Wow minus the Dolly Parton esque hair, I forgot how hot she was! altho tbf one has been airbushed and the other hasn't!

[Matt10k]

Looked her up on wiki; Apparently, she was charged for a hit and run and driving without a licence. It also says she has had drug treatment several times so presumably, she's a druggy too.

[PrimaryObjective]

Originally posted by 06marsh
Originally posted by mrs_rko
If we're entitled to our opinion like you just said, we have every right to think she is a bad mother. :)

You can have an opinion on her singing voice because you've heard her sing. You can have an opinion on how she's portrayed in the media but you can't have an opinion on her as a mother because you don't know her as a person and how she is with her children privately, away from the paps!

Actually, you can have an opinion on all of the above. You can't state your opinion to be fact, but you can still have and voice your opinion. It's called "discussion". You should try it sometime.

[06marsh]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Tom
Christina Aguilera is just better all round :bouncy:

I remember at one point she wanted to be Britney.

Christina kicks Brit's ass!

Long live X-Tina!

Can hardly say Christina aint a little trashy (ok, not as much as Britney but still)

[Matt10k]

Also, people saying we don't know her so we can't say she's a bad mother-well a court had all the information presented to them and they decided Kevin federline was a better parent, so I think that kind of proves, she's not a good mother.

[Callum]

Some people get too worked up over these things. I think she is a great mother though, people who say she isn't, I don't understand how they can really say that because they only know of her parenting skills through the media etc behind closed doors she is a great mother.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Callum
Some people get too worked up over these things. I think she is a great mother though, people who say she isn't, I don't understand how they can really say that because they only know of her parenting skills through the media etc behind closed doors she is a great mother.

I agreed with your first point that we can't comment on her parenting, but then you did - how do you know what happens behind closed doors?

[06marsh]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Originally posted by 06marsh
Originally posted by mrs_rko
If we're entitled to our opinion like you just said, we have every right to think she is a bad mother. :)

You can have an opinion on her singing voice because you've heard her sing. You can have an opinion on how she's portrayed in the media but you can't have an opinion on her as a mother because you don't know her as a person and how she is with her children privately, away from the paps!

Actually, you can have an opinion on all of the above. You can't state your opinion to be fact, but you can still have and voice your opinion. It's called "discussion". You should try it sometime.

What am i doing now? :rolleyes:

Discussing!

[Callum]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
Some people get too worked up over these things. I think she is a great mother though, people who say she isn't, I don't understand how they can really say that because they only know of her parenting skills through the media etc behind closed doors she is a great mother.

I agreed with your first point that we can't comment on her parenting, but then you did - how do you know what happens behind closed doors?

Yeah, sorry I kinda' contradicted myself but honestly I do think she is a good mother.

[Matt10k]

But a court- that DID have the information- decided Kevin federline was a better parent! There's also the hit and run charge, driving without a licence and the fact she was/ is a druggy to consider. I don't know how anyone could call her a good mother to be honest.

[06marsh]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Also, people saying we don't know her so we can't say she's a bad mother-well a court had all the information presented to them and they decided Kevin federline was a better parent, so I think that kind of proves, she's not a good mother.

Yeah, but that was after she wouldn't hand over the kids to him and ended up in hospital

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Matt10k
But a court- that DID have the information- decided Kevin federline was a better parent! There's also the hit and run charge, driving without a licence and the fact she was/ is a druggy to consider. I don't know how anyone could call her a good mother to be honest.

The court didn't decide she was a bad mother, or that Kevin was a better father - that's not what a custody case is about. It takes into consideration extenuating circumstances, and at the time she was being hounded by paps, moreso than him - she also had a lot of issued with drugs etc. That doesn't take into question her parenting skills.

[Legend]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Callum
Some people get too worked up over these things. I think she is a great mother though, people who say she isn't, I don't understand how they can really say that because they only know of her parenting skills through the media etc behind closed doors she is a great mother.

I agreed with your first point that we can't comment on her parenting, but then you did - how do you know what happens behind closed doors?

You beat me to it.

Sorry, that's the biggest contradiction I've seen on here in a while. Though I do also agree with your first point.

[PrimaryObjective]

Originally posted by Lauren
I find it hilarious how some young children feel their opinion is so valid that they can comment on someone's parenting, and whether it is bad.

Don't you think it's a bit patronising and ageist to refer to the younger members as "young children" and suggest their opinions are not as valid as the older members?

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by 06marsh
Originally posted by Matt10k
Also, people saying we don't know her so we can't say she's a bad mother-well a court had all the information presented to them and they decided Kevin federline was a better parent, so I think that kind of proves, she's not a good mother.

Yeah, but that was after she wouldn't hand over the kids to him and ended up in hospital

They will have considered everything when they came to that decision. They don't remove a mothers access to her kids lightly! And they know more information than all of us here, so I'd tend to trust them over people on the forum that just think she's a good mother.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Originally posted by Lauren
I find it hilarious how some young children feel their opinion is so valid that they can comment on someone's parenting, and whether it is bad.

Don't you think it's a bit patronising and ageist to refer to the younger members as "young children" and suggest their opinions are not as valid as the older members?

I didn't mention older members? I wasn't comparing the validity of their opinion, to members older. So it's not ageist.

Plus, their age and validity of opinion were independent statements.

[PrimaryObjective]

You did imply that their opinions are not valid.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
You did imply that their opinions are not valid.

Not because of their age, like I said that was a clear independent statement.

[PrimaryObjective]

So if not their age, then why did you imply their opinions are not valid?

Aren't all members' opinons valid?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
So if not their age, then why did you imply their opinions are not valid?

Aren't all members' opinons valid?

Because when arguing my own opinion, I obviously believe that to be the true one. Henceforth, any differing opinion is not valid to my own. Obviously.

[Novo]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
So if not their age, then why did you imply their opinions are not valid?

Aren't all members' opinons valid?

100% behind you there

[PrimaryObjective]

That's a pretty lame piece of backtracking you just did.

We are all entitled to our opinion, but if it differs from yours you are entitled to say yours is the right one and ours is the wrong one?

Does your moderator status give you this right?

[06marsh]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by 06marsh
Originally posted by Matt10k
Also, people saying we don't know her so we can't say she's a bad mother-well a court had all the information presented to them and they decided Kevin federline was a better parent, so I think that kind of proves, she's not a good mother.

Yeah, but that was after she wouldn't hand over the kids to him and ended up in hospital

They will have considered everything when they came to that decision. They don't remove a mothers access to her kids lightly! And they know more information than all of us here, so I'd tend to trust them over people on the forum that just think she's a good mother.

By the way i don't 'think' she's a good mother

I couldn't care less (just making a point)

[Lauren]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
That's a pretty lame piece of backtracking you just did.

We are all entitled to our opinion, but if it differs from yours you are entitled to say yours is the right one and ours is the wrong one?

Does your moderator status give you this right?

I posted that as a member, which I am.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by 06marsh
Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
Originally posted by 06marsh
Originally posted by mrs_rko
If we're entitled to our opinion like you just said, we have every right to think she is a bad mother. :)

You can have an opinion on her singing voice because you've heard her sing. You can have an opinion on how she's portrayed in the media but you can't have an opinion on her as a mother because you don't know her as a person and how she is with her children privately, away from the paps!

Actually, you can have an opinion on all of the above. You can't state your opinion to be fact, but you can still have and voice your opinion. It's called "discussion". You should try it sometime.

What am i doing now? :rolleyes:

Discussing!

But you're against allowing for people to have their opinion on whether or not she's a bad mother.Where's the discussion in that?

[PrimaryObjective]

I find your manner to be quite arrogant in that case.

[Matt10k]

People saying she’s a good mother: How could you possibly know more than the court that decided she wasn’t?!

She was a druggy- she drove without a licence and committed a hit and run! She is constantly pictured, drunkenly falling out of cabs with no underwear on and half the time, she looks high!

Even knowing just that- how can you say she’s a good mother?! Would you let her look after your kids?!

I worry about some of you, seriously!!

[Lauren]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
I find your manner to be quite arrogant in that case.

Lets be fair, I don't really care if you do or not.

I believe MY opinion to be the correct one, otherwise it wouldn't be my opinion, would it? :wink: If that makes me arrogant, then at least I'm not spineless.

[PrimaryObjective]

I believe my opinion to be the correct one also, but I have respect for others opinions and would never dismiss someone else's opinion as invalid.

That's where you and I differ.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
I believe my opinion to be the correct one also, but I have respect for others opinions and would never dismiss someone else's opinion as invalid.

That's where you and I differ.

It's invalid if it's not valid to my own opinion.

[PrimaryObjective]

That clearly shows a lack of respect for others' opinion in my view.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by PrimaryObjective
That clearly shows a lack of respect for others' opinion in my view.

So be it.