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Sticks
27-07-2008, 06:22 AM
There is an old saying, "No one is above the law"

I would say that that is rot

Some people are above the law, because no body in there right mind would dare testify against them.

In this example (http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=yobs-sprayed-me%26method=full%26objectid=20672539%26siteid=9346 3-name_page.html) teenagers are allowed to get away because the teacher will not testify as the girl's father is a gangster.

I came up against it some years ago. These people know the law in order to break the law. They can have you done over, and they will have an alibi , and since the appeal court got rid of anonymous giving of evidence, the defence is entitled to know exactly who is testifying against their client, so more prosecutions fail.

Ergo - Some people can and are above the law and can commit even murder and get away with it.

AngRemembered
27-07-2008, 06:27 AM
I'm lost here, why would a teacher not be allowed to testify that a girls father.. i.e another man is a gangster?

Sticks
27-07-2008, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by Angiebabe
I'm lost here, why would a teacher not be allowed to testify that a girls father.. i.e another man is a gangster?

According to the article, the teacher would not identify the girl who was a ring leader in an attack, because they were scared of her father who is a gangster

AngRemembered
27-07-2008, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by Sticks
According to the article, the teacher would not identify the girl who was a ring leader in an attack, because they were scared of her father who is a gangster

So if this is the case why is the ganster not charged and covicted?
Also, how do "they" know of the identity of the girl if she has not been identified by the teacher in question, every court has a witness protection system in place now.
And if the teacher is identified now, he's in trouble regardless of whether this goes to court surely.

bananarama
27-07-2008, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Angiebabe
Originally posted by Sticks
According to the article, the teacher would not identify the girl who was a ring leader in an attack, because they were scared of her father who is a gangster

So if this is the case why is the ganster not charged and covicted?
Also, how do "they" know of the identity of the girl if she has not been identified by the teacher in question, every court has a witness protection system in place now.
And if the teacher is identified now, he's in trouble regardless of whether this goes to court surely.

Sticks is right....As for why don't they charge the gangsters. Evidence is required to get a conviction. Gangsrers put fear into people and even kill therfore evidence is not forth coming......Also even if a gangster is charged and convicted and sentenced the witnessess are still at risk from revenge organised within the jail or when the convicted gangster gets early relaease as they always do..

The law is an ass world wide.....Crime pays for the ruthless......That is the reality...

Matt10k
27-07-2008, 12:13 PM
Even without the gangster dad, it'd seem a lot of younger teens in general seem to be above the law. Police don't have the power they need to do much about the problem, so we hear stories like this with gangs of kids attacking people- they'll commit an assault and usually get off scot free.

And also, people are afraid to fight back. As an adult, they'd probably face a serious charge if they did- where as to the kids, it's just another warning. It's ridiculous.

All the stuff I hear about kids going around beating people up, then filming it on their phones to show off to their mates, makes me sick- especially when it seems the police aren't doing anythng about it, or are powerless to :shrug:

Fom
27-07-2008, 12:27 PM
Yeh I agree, alot of people are scared to report someone because they are scared someone will hunt them down and attack them. And its not fair, but there is protection that can be used on witnesses.

Someone that is above the law, celebrities and Royalty. Only paris hilton would be allowed to leave jail and go on tag in her 20 acre house/ground. Pfft.

bananarama
27-07-2008, 08:38 PM
On a more mundane level anti social drug takers are also above the law. My local park where by drug takers monopolised the park toilets with their pathetic habits don't get stopped by the law. instead the toilets were closed permanently....So the inoccent suffer for the guilty.......As per usual....

This above thelaw factor goes all the way through the different levels of crime from anti social behavour to criminal killngs.