View Full Version : Michelle Does Not Deserve To Leave This Way
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 02:08 AM
Whatever your thoughts of Michelle maybe, she definitely doesn't deserve to exit the house like this (presuming that this is a normal eviction process of course). Michelle did not receive one nomination from the other housemates who clearly do not see her as a threat as the public have suggested due to her time in the bedsit. How cruel then that she should face the public vote due to Becki - directed by BB - choosing her out of all the housemates ito automatically face eviction.
So now we are going to get all the pubescent teenagers and other jealous admirers of Stu <:sleep:> desperately eager to vote her out. I hope they bear in mind that without Michelle, Stu is about as exciting as watching the old BBC testcard possessing all the charm and charisma of a 118 operator.
Contrary to what 's been written on forum boards, Michelle is neither manipulative, scheming or guilty of exhibiting any falseness.
I feel a duty to help save Michelle from the chop not because I'm a huge fan of hers, it's simply that she does not deserve to leave the BB house in this manner.
Save our Geordie chicken!
chilledbootz
30-06-2004, 06:32 AM
Definately Andy. I'm behind you 100%!!!!!!!. Channel 4 can look forward to 5 weeks of misery now unless they do something fast. Michelle is bright, beautiful and in love right now. She needs to stay right where she is I think. That Becki better not try and get Stu either otherwise i'll 'drag her out by her hair from this house'(Helen Adams 2001).
chilledbootz
30-06-2004, 06:33 AM
Definately Andy. I'm behind you 100%!!!!!!!. Channel 4 can look forward to 5 weeks of misery now unless they do something fast. Michelle is bright, beautiful and in love right now. She needs to stay right where she is I think. That Becki better not try and get Stu either otherwise i'll 'drag her out by her hair from this house'(Helen Adams 2001).
Deus Ex Machina
30-06-2004, 07:19 AM
What a load of crap.
Michelle deserved to go in the first week.
She Devil
30-06-2004, 07:58 AM
Originally posted by Deus Ex Machina
What a load of c**p .
Michelle deserved to go in the first week.
I would of said that on the first week also. But after spending time in the bedsit, she has come out of her shell and I like her now.
She is always thinking up games to play to stop bordom creeping in. Unlike the others who just constantly complain about being bored and just go and have a lie down instead, and then winge about the noise that is made.
Originally posted by sammy
She is always thinking up games to play to stop bordom creeping in. Unlike the others who just constantly complain about being bored and just go and have a lie down instead, and then winge about the noise that is made. [/quote]
Totally agree Sammy.
Hooly One
30-06-2004, 08:43 AM
I do to, my opinion of michelle has changed in the last two weeks.
James
30-06-2004, 09:47 AM
Unfair on Michelle? Hmm, maybe, but maybe not. :hugesmile:
You wonder if they were going to let Becki nominate secretly why they waited until 2 hours after the nominations, when they already new the two nominated were Marco and Nadia. Are they trying to protect those two? They could have had Becki make her secret nomination before the others.
But on the other hand if there was a normal eviction at the end of week 2 Michelle would of been out the door. So they've already changed the rules in her favour once. And what goes around comes around.
At the end of the day Big Brother can make and change the rules at will, and it's all extra entertainment for us. :hugesmile:
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Deus Ex Machina
What a load of c**p .
Michelle deserved to go in the first week.
What did Michelle do in the first week to "deserve" to go?
BigSister
30-06-2004, 10:08 AM
I do not like her but in a way it isnt really fair for her to be evicted on the basis on 1 vote when she hadnt any from the other housemates
In any other weeks I would want her to go but not really this week.
My 2nd choice to go would be Marco
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by James
Unfair on Michelle? Hmm, maybe, but maybe not. :hugesmile:
You wonder if they were going to let Becki nominate secretly why they waited until 2 hours after the nominations, when they already new the two nominated were Marco and Nadia. Are they trying to protect those two? They could have had Becki make her secret nomination before the others.
But on the other hand if there was a normal eviction at the end of week 2 Michelle would of been out the door. So they've already changed the rules in her favour once. And what goes around comes around.
At the end of the day Big Brother can make and change the rules at will, and it's all extra entertainment for us. :hugesmile:
You have a point that BB introduced this rule in a hope of Becki would choose Vic or Jason, but it didn't work out that way. Michelle shouldn't have to become a sacrificial lamb in order to save Marco and Nadia. But I disagree that in week 2 Michelle would have faced a public vote and evicted had she not gone into the bedsit.
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by BigSister
I do not like her but in a way it isnt really fair for her to be evicted on the basis on 1 vote when she hadnt any from the other housemates
In any other weeks I would want her to go but not really this week.
My 2nd choice to go would be Marco
I don't know what there is to dislike about Michelle to be honest. She's inoffensive, polite, fun, has created a bit of love interest in the house (ok not on the scale of Helen and Paul's, but she has given us something to talk about) and has been considerate towards the other housemates.
Deus Ex Machina
30-06-2004, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by AndyJK
...She's inoffensive, polite, ...and has been considerate towards the other housemates.
This is the same Michelle that came up with "I don't like that... Scheming... Spiteful. Fat(!)... Cellulite BITCH!", right?
bananarama
30-06-2004, 10:50 AM
Needless to say I am fully in support of the premise that Michelle does not deserve this nomination let alone to possibly be evicted because of it.
Those mouthing off about how spitefull and bitchy they think Michelle is are being just that themselves. Tea pots calling the kettle.
Michell is simply a modern young women free of most inhibitions and living her life as an equall to men.
For a youngster she has kept a high level of maturity. Her rant after the nomination was an understandable release of stress believing some of her housemates had betrayed her for no apparent reason.
She has a temper. don't we all. that's not a crime or fault it's just a human attribute.
Where Jason and Victor get steamed up about nothing in particular Michelle has the maturity to look at the whole picture.
I hope the polls on the Digital Spy forum and CH4 forum are a true indication of the publics feelings. So far Marco is showing about 50% while Michelle is arround 34% with Nadia on 16%
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by Deus Ex Machina
Originally posted by AndyJK
...She's inoffensive, polite, ...and has been considerate towards the other housemates.
This is the same Michelle that came up with "I don't like that... Scheming... Spiteful. Fat(!)... Cellulite BITCH!", right?
To be fair, Michelle said that under extreme provocation watching the housemates bitch about her while in the bedit. I don't believe her choice of words would have been any different had she been sitting at home. She never said it to Venessa's face or the other housemates so what's your point, that Michelle loses her temper when she sees people slag her off?
Since Michelle returned back to the house her behaviour has been exemplary and didn't become the schemer as members of the public suggested. The fact she didn't receive any nominations this week seems to back this up in case we missed something.
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by bananarama
Needless to say I am fully in support of the premise that Michelle does not deserve this nomination let alone to possibly be evicted because of it.
Those mouthing off about how spitefull and bitchy they think Michelle is are being just that themselves. Tea pots calling the kettle.
Michell is simply a modern young women free of most inhibitions and living her life as an equall to men.
For a youngster she has kept a high level of maturity. Her rant after the nomination was an understandable release of stress believing some of her housemates had betrayed her for no apparent reason.
She has a temper. don't we all. that's not a crime or fault it's just a human attribute.
Where Jason and Victor get steamed up about nothing in particular Michelle has the maturity to look at the whole picture.
I hope the polls on the Digital Spy forum and CH4 forum are a true indication of the publics feelings. So far Marco is showing about 50% while Michelle is arround 34% with Nadia on 16%
I completely agree.
When it's suggested Michelle deserved to go the first and second weeks, I find myself wondering why there is this hostility towards her. Perhaps the Michelle haters can elucidate.
Hooly One
30-06-2004, 11:26 AM
Good Point AndyJK:thumbs:
If you dont want Michelle do go in this way then bloomin well pick uo your phones and vote out Marco or Nadia.
James
30-06-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by bananarama
I hope the polls on the Digital Spy forum and CH4 forum are a true indication of the publics feelings. So far Marco is showing about 50% while Michelle is arround 34% with Nadia on 16%
Apparently this is the AOL pol latest (it's often reliable)
Marco 37%
Michelle 31%
Nadia 32%
Looks like this one is going down to the wire.
Originally posted by bananarama
Needless to say I am fully in support of the premise that Michelle does not deserve this nomination let alone to possibly be evicted because of it.
Those mouthing off about how spitefull and bitchy they think Michelle is are being just that themselves. Tea pots calling the kettle.
Michell is simply a modern young women free of most inhibitions and living her life as an equall to men.
For a youngster she has kept a high level of maturity. Her rant after the nomination was an understandable release of stress believing some of her housemates had betrayed her for no apparent reason.
She has a temper. don't we all. that's not a crime or fault it's just a human attribute.
Where Jason and Victor get steamed up about nothing in particular Michelle has the maturity to look at the whole picture.
I hope the polls on the Digital Spy forum and CH4 forum are a true indication of the publics feelings. So far Marco is showing about 50% while Michelle is arround 34% with Nadia on 16%
Hear hear, bananarama. :thumbs:
IMO those mouthing off about Michelle are just hateful little trolls. :mad:
Hooly One
30-06-2004, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by James
Originally posted by bananarama
I hope the polls on the Digital Spy forum and CH4 forum are a true indication of the publics feelings. So far Marco is showing about 50% while Michelle is arround 34% with Nadia on 16%
Apparently this is the AOL pol latest (it's often reliable)
Marco 37%
Michelle 31%
Nadia 32%
Looks like this one is going down to the wire.
Yes it was also right last week about vanessa being evicted and it's been right with every other big brother to.
I wouldn't really be that shocked if marco was evicted
golden~rose
30-06-2004, 12:36 PM
im so so with michelle, i like her because she turned out to be genuine but i still think its annoying to see her running around stu, i really dont know whats so special about him!
BusyBee
30-06-2004, 12:41 PM
Sorry I think Michelle deserves to go for the childish and over-dramatic way she reacted to being nominated. Girl you are in a game show you are going to get nominated. So she's been nominated twice - yes has happened before Michelle you arent the first for this to happen, but normally people dont have a touch of the strops because it happens.
Problem for Michelle is that she has got many of the Stuart fans against her.
Actually would love to see her evicted to find out how she will react when Davina tells her she was only up because of Becki.:shocked::shocked:
golden~rose
30-06-2004, 12:43 PM
she only reacted that way because she must have been certain that she wouldnt be nominated for eviction and she was clearly shocked. then she must have realised that she probably wont be around stu that much which caused ehr to blow probably!
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by BusyBee
Sorry I think Michelle deserves to go for the childish and over-dramatic way she reacted to being nominated. Girl you are in a game show you are going to get nominated. So she's been nominated twice - yes has happened before Michelle you arent the first for this to happen, but normally people dont have a touch of the strops because it happens.
Problem for Michelle is that she has got many of the Stuart fans against her.
Actually would love to see her evicted to find out how she will react when Davina tells her she was only up because of Becki.:shocked::shocked:
Wasn't Helen Adams also childish and overdramatic in series 2? To some of her fans, those were endearing qualities. Michelle has shown maturity for her age inside the house as bananarama said. Therefore it would be extremely mean to vote her out purely because of her reaction at being nominated :bored:.
bananarama
30-06-2004, 01:30 PM
Others have blown their top in the BB house and been forgiven. So why not forgive Michelle for reacting in a normal human way.....
Nadia had the tantrums over a shortage of fags. Shell had a pillow bashing session and a number of rage sessions on her own. Hiding her personality from the rest.....
Victor overeacted to Emma. Jason overeacts to everyone.
Ahmad provokes then over acts in the diary room.
Marco turns on the tears like water from a tap and is just about as salty.
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 02:24 PM
We can go through every series and point out housemates letting rip. How about Brian Dowling and the way he spoke to Josh in the pool; Kate Lawler shouting at Jade; Helen's reaction at the missing sausage, these are a few examples of many I could give. I don't believe these housemates showing their emotions changed our overall perceptions of them, as we knew deep down they were decent people.
If we voted out housemates for expressing their inner feelings, should we expect another repeat of BB Snore (4) where housemates sleep all day afraid to do anything in case they upset the public?
I don't have to be a psychologist in order to understand Michelle's reaction to what she feels are housemates ganging up on her and unable to grasp the reasons why. It was a genuine emotional response, it wasn't fake or contrived. That's how our emotions work sometimes, and I am sure we've all been guilty of it at some stage in our lives. Does that mean we shouldn't show some sympathy towards Michelle rather than making it an excuse to evict her? Well you decide.
I just don't like here though.
James
30-06-2004, 02:33 PM
To be fair on Michelle I thought Marco reacted worse to his nomination than Michelle. Unfortunately for her though, her outburst was shown live on TV.
Marco's outburst will be shown tonight.
dimstepho
30-06-2004, 02:41 PM
This is very typical. Just because BB's evil has meant that it's Michelle who's up for eviction, that must mean BB is being unfair? I bet if it was Jay or Vic you would be loving it. I remember Sammy saying something like "It works both ways" when defending the harem, so I think Vic and Jay fans can use it here.
It was Becki who made the choice!
Originally posted by dimstepho
This is very typical. Just because BB's evil has meant that it's Michelle who's up for eviction, that must mean BB is being unfair? I bet if it was Jay or Vic you would be loving it. I remember Sammy saying something like "It works both ways" when defending the harem, so I think Vic and Jay fans can use it here.
You are right, it cud have been ne one in michelle boots at the moment!, so its not unfair. although i wud like nadia out this week!, lol :wavey::thumbs:
I agree Kore Becki could have chose anyone.
Sticks
30-06-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by BB fernzy
If you dont want Michelle do go in this way then bloomin well pick uo your phones and vote out Marco or Nadia.
This won't work
The pro Michelle camp is will be split, and unco-ordinated. I have voted for Marco as I voted for him in the virtual nominations so have to be consistant.
The pro - Stuart teeny-boppers hate Michelle to pieces and will have their mobiles on re-dial permenantly. They will all gather out side to hurl the eggs and and rotten fruit and flour bombs.
The pro - Marco and Pro Nardia realise those are as thick as thireves and would not nominate each other - So Michelle is a godsend sacrifgiciallamb to keep that pair together.
I dont care who goes personally.
Stick ya rite, marco and nadia go together like a team, so obviously the fans are like 1, so them 2s fans will vote for michelle, along with the "we love stu, hate michelle" gang. i can be tellin ya, im voting for Nadia n e way!, lol:spin2:
I have voted for Michelle and Nadia in case of a double eviction.
LOL nice 1, its too good to be true, i dont know who too vote for, haha
bananarama
30-06-2004, 03:08 PM
Having Becki select a housemate by kissing on both cheeks put an unfair slant towards a female being selected by her.
She is new to the house. can you imagine what reason she would have to give Jason or Victor a kiss on both cheeks Or Ahamad for that matter.
She only had 15 minutes to complete the task or get herself nominated.
For the record as much as I dislike Jason and Victor if any one of those two had been selected by this method I would still regard it as corrupt game play on behalf of BB. I want to see them nominated fair and square. Then my vote and the publics would be an honest one.
Let BB be evil by all means but that should not mean corrupting the rules to make winners lose.
Nadia or Michelle then that would leave Marco with no bodyguards.
Its thier game tho bananarama, they can change the rules at anytime, she cud have easily kissed anyone in the house!, ahmed especially, he has a crush on her doesnt he, hehe:spin2:
She would have found her ways.
Sticks
30-06-2004, 03:31 PM
According to the BB site it could be because she wants to get her claws into Stuart.
Not because she really wants to, (Age difference???), but because she can.
On the C4 forum there have been complaints that the evict Michelle line was not working. someone has said that was a hoax and has reported the original poster.
Most likely it is jammed because of the teeny-boppers with their grubby little mits on their mobile phone redial buttons :mad:
bananarama
30-06-2004, 04:03 PM
She would have found her ways.
Your missing the point!!! She only had 15 minutes. The easy way out of a tricky situation was to choose a female. The nomination task placed on her was biased towards a female being selected it is human nature to instinctively go for the easy option espacially when your own skin is at risk.
No amount of exuses can exuse the fact that is was a corrupted method of nominating.
golden~rose
30-06-2004, 04:04 PM
i agree, i would have done the same in picking a female :thumbs:
Hooly One
30-06-2004, 04:06 PM
:thumbs:
Tina_2004
30-06-2004, 04:13 PM
Is there a magnet on Stu!! Michelle always clings to him and as soon as he leaves he will get a prettier bird and leave Michelle. She should befriend all the group and then pick the off 1 by 1!!!
golden~rose
30-06-2004, 04:16 PM
michelle is not pretty, i dont like her hair, its too frizzy!
Hooly One
30-06-2004, 04:18 PM
Well she's better looking then nadia and becki:thumbs:
Tina_2004
30-06-2004, 04:18 PM
No she's not, he's just hot! She's to old anyway:colour:
golden~rose
30-06-2004, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Hooly One
Well she's better looking then nadia and becki:thumbs:
oh yeah definately. she would look better if she had a better dress sense though! ok ill stop being so critical :S
Also if she had better eyebrows
golden~rose
30-06-2004, 04:24 PM
never notcied her eyesbrows, but if they are bushy, then perhaps she does need to get them done!
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by bananarama
Having Becki select a housemate by kissing on both cheeks put an unfair slant towards a female being selected by her.
She is new to the house. can you imagine what reason she would have to give Jason or Victor a kiss on both cheeks Or Ahamad for that matter.
She only had 15 minutes to complete the task or get herself nominated.
For the record as much as I dislike Jason and Victor if any one of those two had been selected by this method I would still regard it as corrupt game play on behalf of BB. I want to see them nominated fair and square. Then my vote and the publics would be an honest one.
Let BB be evil by all means but that should not mean corrupting the rules to make winners lose.
You have a point and I thought at the time this was a stupid way to nominate someone. As if Becki is going to kiss Jason, Ahmed or Victor http://www.cheesebuerger.de/smilies/eklig/2.gif which in a way could be interpruted as coming on to them. Which producer in their infinite wisdom dreamt this up? As if the idea to allow Becki to nominate was bad enough.
And yes, I would still be against the idea had Becki chosen Victor or Jason. I want housemates to face the eviction through the correct process, and Jason and Victor will be up soon enough. I do not want to see potential winners of this series being evicted as could be the case with Michelle. She could potentially become the first contestant voted out by the public without receiving any nominations. It's really absur. This series really is all over the place.
I hope you've got an escape plan BB, if Michelle gets the most votes. These producers are playing dangerously with the minds of these contestants, it really is frightening.
Slartibartfast
30-06-2004, 07:27 PM
If she'd picked Jay or Vic, I would have had a serious problem with BB screwing about with the rules. But as it was Michelle...:laugh::colour::laugh::colour::laugh::c olour:
crusader
30-06-2004, 07:27 PM
everyone seems to forget Michelle is back in on a stroke of BB subterfuge anyway, she has served her purpose by helping wind Jay and Vic up along with hothead emma.
I still say she is a scheming hotpants and is getting what she deserved :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
She Devil
30-06-2004, 07:29 PM
Did Michelle wind up V & J when she left the bedsit?
I know Emma did but I thought Michelle just stood aside and watched them all fighting
Hooly One
30-06-2004, 07:37 PM
Michelle won't go this week, in the Yahoo poll marco's in the lead with a massive 56% and michelle only has 24%
Yahoo and AOL have been right every year with the eviction polls.
The yahoo poll was right last week -> vanessa with 86% and dan with 14% and the AOL poll said the same..
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by crusader
everyone seems to forget Michelle is back in on a stroke of BB subterfuge anyway, she has served her purpose by helping wind Jay and Vic up along with hothead emma.
I still say she is a scheming hotpants and is getting what she deserved :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
I have asked several times why some posters believe Michelle has been scheming. So far no-one has backed these accusations up with any evidence. Perhaps you can help me.
AndyJK
30-06-2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Hooly One
Michelle won't go this week, in the Yahoo poll marco's in the lead with a massive 56% and michelle only has 24%
Yahoo and AOL have been right every year with the eviction polls.
The yahoo poll was right last week -> vanessa with 86% and dan with 14% and the AOL poll said the same..
That's very comforting to know, but I hope the public will continue to vote for Marco. This could still end up a close finish.
Slartibartfast
30-06-2004, 07:43 PM
I'm just so pleased with this weeks nominations, that I'm happy whoever goes. Prefer it not to be Nadia, as she bothers me the least. But either Marco or Michelle and it's :laugh::colour::laugh::colour::laugh::colour:
Hooly One
30-06-2004, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by AndyJK
Originally posted by Hooly One
Michelle won't go this week, in the Yahoo poll marco's in the lead with a massive 56% and michelle only has 24%
Yahoo and AOL have been right every year with the eviction polls.
The yahoo poll was right last week -> vanessa with 86% and dan with 14% and the AOL poll said the same..
That's very comforting to know, but I hope the public will continue to vote for Marco. This could still end up a close finish.
I agree, it's early days and it could be close.
Sweetpea
30-06-2004, 08:11 PM
As I have said previously, I am angry at the way the nominations went, not because it is people I like that is up for nomination but in the way the process was done. Love or hate any of the housemates to be nominated in this way 2 hours after all nominations were made is just not right.
BB have four main characters in that house who hate each other, this being Jason, Victor Verses Nadia and Marco. For BB to lose either Marco or Nadia could almost be their ultimate downfall for the show as those 2 wind the other 2 up something awful.
Therefore in steps their deploy, thus being Becki. Now if that isn't a fix I truly don't know what is. Tell me why did Becki not pick out any of the four main characters? but knew exactly who to go straight for.
Do BB think a 20 year old boy like Stuart, is going to look at a 33 year old woman, with a face like a battered fish, yellow teeth and who smokes roll ups. Compare her to Michelle, who is a lot younger, far prettier and does not smoke, and I think I rest my case.
Lets face it, if it is comming to BB wanting the public to watch an older woman getting it on with a young boy, then that is only sick even by their standards. Personally that would do **** all for me, but only disgust me.
On saying that, unless she gets him pissed drunk and takes advantage of him, she stands no ****ing chance. More so, if she did do such a thing the legal implications to BB would be enough to destroy their show for good.
I think everyone is also forgetting that BB said they are getting EVIL with the contestants. Now correct me if I am wrong, but how the hell can it be evil to the contestants, if the contestants don't know nothing about it. At least with the bedsit they all knew what was going on as soon as Emma and Michelle came back.
Only the person that leaves the house on Friday will know what has happened along with the public. Becki on entering the house informed everyone she cannot nominate or be nominated, therefore no one is even going to suspect her. The other contestants will all still be unaware of anything to do with the twist in nominations this week. SO WHERE IS THE EVIL TO THE REST OF THE HOUSEMATES.
By next week this will all be old news, so in the reality of it all BB are not exactly being EVIL to the contestants and letting them know about it are they. Personally I now feel they are taking us all for a ride, and the sad part is we are letting them. Hell I am even beginning to wonder if it is five year old kids that are coming up with their ideas.
NO STRIKE THAT.....5 YEAR OLD KIDS COULD DO MUCH BETTER LOL :xyxwave:
dimstepho
30-06-2004, 10:05 PM
This weeks nominations were very messed up, but if the rumours about another twist on Friday are true, then that would prove that BB is just taking the public for a ride and it'll be more obvious that it's for the money, not the satisfaction of pleasing viewers. The prize money twist is also a very sick, greedy thing that BB did.
Sticks
30-06-2004, 10:16 PM
I do not accept those AOL polls :nono:
Michelle is the most hated women in Britain
The teeny boppers hate Michelle for getting her mits on their beloved Stuart. There have been reports of problems with the evict Michelle line. Most likeley because of all the re-dial action going on.
The Marco fans and the Nardia fans will vote out Michelle
Those who hate Jason and Victor will vote out Michelle to keep them in to torment Jason and Victor
Michelle will be the first to be egged and floured and pelted with rotten fruit when she comes out this Friday.
Do BB security make sure that rent-a-mob don't have any missile weapons ? With the numbers there I do not see how they can.
Maggie
30-06-2004, 10:25 PM
Michelle only changed the way she was AFTER being in the bedsit and seeing what the housemates thought of her and the penny dropped this was how she was being see as, by the public too. She's has an unfair advantage over the others ever since.
Marco and her reaction to being up, Pathetic!!, they all know what the game is about, her remark in the diary room, "What am I doing wrong ?" could show she thought the changes she made had worked, which they had, with only Beckie causing her to be up for nomination this week.
Don't care which of them goes by the way
Sticks, maybe your saying this because you want her out, hehe
i havnt really heard of that many teenie boppers hating her
but i agree with the anti -v+j fans
keep jay, vic, dan, michelle, and stu every1!lol
go on, get nadia out this week, you know you want too :rolleyes::wavey:
Im another one for hating Michelle she tricked Emma big time, i thought they were both going back into the house to cause kaos but she left it all to Emma to say everything and now shes talking to the people she was shouting at in the bedsit like nothings been said.
dimstepho
30-06-2004, 11:40 PM
Oh yeah! She is telling everyone it was just Emma that did it, in the hope that they wont nominate her. It certainly worked, because other than Becki she didn't get one nomination. I kind of evens itself out, but it's still wrong.
Sticks
01-07-2004, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by Kore
Sticks, maybe your saying this because you want her out, hehe
i havnt really heard of that many teenie boppers hating her
but i agree with the anti -v+j fans
keep jay, vic, dan, michelle, and stu every1!lol
go on, get nadia out this week, you know you want too :rolleyes::wavey:
I did not want her out, I was just giving an analysis based on stuff here and elsewhere :nono:
BusyBee
01-07-2004, 11:30 AM
Michelle only changed the way she was AFTER being in the bedsit and seeing what the housemates thought of her and the penny dropped this was how she was being see as, by the public too. She's has an unfair advantage over the others ever since.
Well said Maggie, but none of them seem to have cottoned on to this idea.
But Marco has been completely pathetic. As I have said elsewhere nominations are part of the game - cope with it. The 'why am I up again, everyone hates me' way of looking at it really annoys me. Dan and Vanessa, on the whole, showed how to cope - they just got on with things OK they had a whinge, but nothing like whats happened this week
She Devil
01-07-2004, 12:24 PM
I think Michelle will feel a fool when she comes out and realises only Becki nominated her after she flipped out on tuesday.
golden~rose
01-07-2004, 02:15 PM
she would flip
Hooly One
01-07-2004, 03:22 PM
She would probably swear a lot to
Sticks
01-07-2004, 03:51 PM
And when Becki successfully seduces Stuart.....:shocked:
Hooly One
01-07-2004, 03:59 PM
She would probably go insane with envy and jealousy
golden~rose
01-07-2004, 04:37 PM
probably form a 'kill becky when she gats out' group :bouncy:
heaven150
01-07-2004, 04:41 PM
Michelle doesn't deserve this! Let's vote out Jason or Victor!
They are so borrrringggg!
Jason just sleeps all day!HUuuuammmmhhh!zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzz........
golden~rose
01-07-2004, 04:46 PM
yeah obvious i want them out before michelle, besides marcos going to go on friday. i can just see it!
Hooly One
01-07-2004, 05:09 PM
That might happen next week:thumbs:
xx_michelle_fan_xx
01-07-2004, 05:36 PM
I totally agree Michelle doesnt deserve to go at all just becoz of Becki!
:nono:
:bouncy: i hope she stays ..as long as Michelle has fans she has a chance of staying in! :bouncy:
AndyJK
01-07-2004, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Maggie
Michelle only changed the way she was AFTER being in the bedsit and seeing what the housemates thought of her and the penny dropped this was how she was being see as, by the public too. She's has an unfair advantage over the others ever since.
Can someone please tell me what Michelle did in the first week that was so bad?
Hooly One
01-07-2004, 07:41 PM
AndyJK
Michelle has done nothing wrong this week or even last week, some people are using her little outburst on tuesday ("which michelle did out of stress and emotion") has a reason for disliking her and wanting her evicted.
Which is kind of pathetic:nono:
AndyJK
01-07-2004, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Hooly One
AndyJK
Michelle has done nothing wrong this week or even last week, some people are using her little outburst on tuesday ("which michelle did out of stress and emotion") has a reason for disliking her and wanting her evicted.
Which is kind of pathetic:nono:
I agree, and the only ones overacting are those voting for Michelle for that reason alone. I wasn't aware there was a rule that housemates were suppose to sit, smile and grit their teeth after hearing the nomination results. It's easy for us to say "it's just a gameshow" but then we're not in the unfortunate position of looking at the mafioso boss and gangsta rapper, after all their blatent aggressiveness, manipulation and intimidation towards the other housemates, smuggly satisfied escaping the public vote.
Of course Michelle didn't do herself any favours latching herself onto Stu so quickly at the start. It's had all the cynics out in force portraying her as manipulative and scheming, but then why haven't they been so vocal towards Stu at the same time or is he exempt?
Originally posted by Mike
I'm another one for hating Michelle she tricked Emma big time, i thought they were both going back into the house to cause kaos but she left it all to Emma to say everything and now shes talking to the people she was shouting at in the bedsit like nothings been said. I agree with Mark here, Michelle manipulated Emma to go back in and cause havoc, Emma got the blame for all of this while Michelle got off scott free.Originally posted by Maggie
Michelle only changed the way she was AFTER being in the bedsit and seeing what the housemates thought of her and the penny dropped this was how she was being see as, by the public too. She's has an unfair advantage over the others ever since. Quite so Maggie, Michelle has changed since she’s come out of the bedsit, but not because she’s turned into a nicer person, but because she has much more idea of what image she ought to portray.
I’m not a Michelle fan, but I hope she doesn’t go this week as I desperately want the vile Marco out of there (looks as though this is quite likely as well :colour: ). I’d be quite happy for Michelle to be out next though. Followed closely by Victor :thumbs:
AndyJK
01-07-2004, 09:33 PM
I'm surprised at the cynicism surrounding Michelle. It reminds me of those critical of Helen's actions and behaviour in the house during series two. Perhaps they had more justification to feel that way when you consider at the very offset Helen admitted to having a boyfriend she would marry and screwed her face up when Elizabeth mentioned any chance of her and Paul getting together. Funny how people change on the inside.
Originally posted by heaven150
Michelle doesn't deserve this! Let's vote out Jason or Victor!
They are so borrrringggg!
Jason just sleeps all day!HUuuuammmmhhh!zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzz........
How can you say they are boring!
They are the 2 keeping me watching the show!, lol!!
Sticks
01-07-2004, 09:54 PM
They were also very cynical about Paul Clarke if I remember correctly. Even a one Josh Rafter claimed he was leading her on. (Did he ever retract that?)
Any hue
From my analysis on an earlier thread, Michelle will be booed out and possibly egged on Friday.
All the tactical voting scenarios point to her as a godsend. Even those who hate Victor and Jason are voting Michelle out in their droves so Marco and Nardia can torment the Jungle cats.
Rent-a-mob will vent their fury on Michelle out of jealousy and spite. Stuart will be seduced successfully by Becky
And we will continue to let C4 / Endemol of the hook :mad:
Sticks im sure youve said that before.. :rolleyes:
vicky
01-07-2004, 10:57 PM
Emma and Michelle weren't going back in the house to cause kaos. The idea was to keep quiet about having seen the live streaming and use what they had seen to their advantage.
However, Emma got drunk, started blurting out what she'd seen and confronting people. Don't know how you can blame Michelle for that.
AndyJK
02-07-2004, 12:15 AM
I'm also curious at these accusations of Michelle intending to cause chaos when returning from the bedsit. I agree with you Vicky, as I understand it Michelle wanted to keep the whole bedsit experience a secret. Neither Michelle or Emma planned the fight that ensued after they returned, therefore it is wrong that Michelle should take any blame for what happened.
Originally posted by Sticks
They were also very cynical about Paul Clarke if I remember correctly. Even a one Josh Rafter claimed he was leading her on. (Did he ever retract that?)
Any hue
From my analysis on an earlier thread, Michelle will be booed out and possibly egged on Friday.
All the tactical voting scenarios point to her as a godsend. Even those who hate Victor and Jason are voting Michelle out in their droves so Marco and Nardia can torment the Jungle cats.
Rent-a-mob will vent their fury on Michelle out of jealousy and spite. Stuart will be seduced successfully by Becky
And we will continue to let C4 / Endemol of the hook :mad:
Yep, a lot of people were cynical towards Paul too. On the anti-Helen & Paul forum I used to post on, the posters were forever telling me once Paul left the house he would be back to being promiscuous dumping Helen in a matter of weeks, while I was forever defending him (are you reading this peg, Machiavelli, Jigger, Crystal, Steveb? :love:)
And I think Victor will be booed the worst. In fact, he might even have to be driven out in an armoured car complete with a police escort.
bananarama
02-07-2004, 02:47 PM
Of course Michelle did not manipulate Emma. That is a theory that dedicated Michelle haters would like to believe to justify their argument to themselves.
Michelle in reality has done little wrong in the house exept to upset some teeens because she latched on to Stuart as quickly and emphatically as she did.
Let's face it in spite of Shell say's about Stu being like a brother. If Michelle had not got him she would have done so.
Then no doubt she would have been the classic target for hating....:devil:
golden~rose
02-07-2004, 03:24 PM
the only thing that i think michelle did wrong was to divide the group up in the beggining and she wasnt mixinf with alot of people in the hosue. of course thats all changed now. but i just find it irritating to see that michelle is running around stuart, for once id like to see stu running after her!
AndyJK
02-07-2004, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by bananarama
Of course Michelle did not manipulate Emma. That is a theory that dedicated Michelle haters would like to believe to justify their argument to themselves.
Michelle in reality has done little wrong in the house exept to upset some teeens because she latched on to Stuart as quickly and emphatically as she did.
Let's face it in spite of Shell say's about Stu being like a brother. If Michelle had not got him she would have done so.
Then no doubt she would have been the classic target for hating....:devil:
I can't believe people are suggesting Michelle planned the fight with Emma by telling her to stir up the housemates. For what purpose? If the public wish to criticise Michelle, the least they can do is get their facts right. These accusations aimed at Michelle are your typical tabloid story invented by some Sun journo.
crusader
02-07-2004, 05:23 PM
As I have said from the start Michelle is a scheming little minx and has been from day one, she had a sort of game plan and it backfired almost straight away, her 'affair' with Stu is a sham and so was her outburst when she was in the bedsit. The only reason she showed upset was because it showed her in a bad light if Stu did not seem to be missing her after all her attempts to seduce the poor stuttering Stu, he can hardly string 3 words together never mind cope with her sexual approaches.
Michelle is on a slippery slope but let's get rid of Mincing Marco first..........please!! MARCO- BYE BYE :xyxwave::xyxwave::xyxwave:
AndyJK
02-07-2004, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by crusader
As I have said from the start Michelle is a scheming little minx and has been from day one, she had a sort of game plan and it backfired almost straight away, her 'affair' with Stu is a sham and so was her outburst when she was in the bedsit. The only reason she showed upset was because it showed her in a bad light if Stu did not seem to be missing her after all her attempts to seduce the poor stuttering Stu, he can hardly string 3 words together never mind cope with her sexual approaches.
Michelle is on a slippery slope but let's get rid of Mincing Marco first..........please!! MARCO- BYE BYE :xyxwave::xyxwave::xyxwave:
But her gameplan does't harm the other housemates or effect their nominations so what's the problem? It's not like she's doing a nasty Nick. Would you prefer this series or the last one when housemates sleep all day not having a gameplan?
And would you have wanted Helen and Paul who eventually got it together to have gone in series two?
Yeah i agree, exactly the same with Victor and jason :spin2:
Hooly One
02-07-2004, 06:36 PM
Here's a list of polls and theve been right so far
Wanadoo poll ->
Michelle
32%
Nadia
17%
Marco
51%
3467 votes..
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Aol poll ->
Michelle
30%
Nadia
18%
Marco
52%
6876 votes..
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Yahoo poll ->
Michelle
30%
Nadia
11%
Marco
59%
5434 votes..
bananarama
02-07-2004, 06:58 PM
Hi Hooly One . The AOL polls are confusing. I was wondering where you got the latest statistics for their poll from?
Looking on the Digital Spy forum AOL thread. It is being claimed that the AOL polls are being rigged because they are showing Marco and Michell neck and neck. Such as Marco 43% and Michell 42%. Can't find the poll figures you quoted above..... :conf:
Hooly One
02-07-2004, 07:04 PM
I got the aol and yahoo poll statistics from BB gossip
Here's the wanadoo poll ->
http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/bigbrother/?linkfrom=Today&link=main1_headline&article=TODents_eviction_night
Why is Nadia?!?! only gettin a low percentage, shes an annoying b**ch, get her out, p's me off, LOL
Hooly One
02-07-2004, 07:33 PM
We know you love her really:joker:
aye in your dreams, i dont love her at all!!!, lolol :spin:
Hooly One
02-07-2004, 07:41 PM
And why would it be in my dreams? Admit it kore, you like her.. lol:bouncy:
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