Latest Rumor: Ahmed to get his revenge on Michelle with surprise double eviction

[Sticks]

On my way into work this morning, my newsagent showed me an article in the Daily Star, that who ever goes on Friday will get to select another housemate to be evicted as well.

As Ahmed is well in the lead on the eviction polls, he is set to be evicted and will certainly pick Michelle because she shouted at him and she was only doing it to gain immunity at everyone elses expense.

(A number of people on the C4 site say thay Ahmed was in the right and has been totally vindicated their views )

Has anyone heard anything on this one ?

Usually with double evictions C4 modify the schedule in advance for the TV listings papers

[rachb]

I haven't heard anything Sticks but this sounds like a great idea to me:devil:really evil:devil::devil:
especially if Michelle goes:laugh::laugh:

[BusyBee]

Now that would put the fox amongst the chickens wouldnt it. I know I've just made that up, but I thought it appropriate.

If they are not going to do it, then they should. Those housemates are getting complacent again. Michelle would be livid.

[Red Moon]

I can't see them doing that a lot of the people who watch the show are already up in arms about the eviction process during this years show.

What might be more likely is that the person evicted gets to nominate a person who will be up for a public vote next week.

RED

[Dan_]

What a fab idea. I hate Michelle.:devil:

[She Devil]

He may only be able to pick one of the ones that were already up for eviction in which case it would either be Nadia or Dan - That would be terrible.

[JC]

I quite like the idea, puts a new spin on the double eviction.

[ickle04]

If they do a double eviction, i think it's because BB are worried about Ahmeds reaction to Davina.

Ahmed has only 2 sides :mad: or :sleep:

We have all seen how awkward Ahmed can be :mad:

A double eviction would ensure 1. . At least one decent eviction interview, 2.. Remaining housemates would be thrown into turmoil :shocked:

Thats my theory, what do you think? xx

[Lance]

I don't think that will be happening Sticks but the more likely eviction process would be for the evictee to pu someone up for nomination next week!

However if it is true I hop he doesn't take Nadia!

[Sunny_01]

I havent heard anything but I walk round with my head firmly up my butt. I have to say though the only thing Michelle did that was totally out of order was throw a flip flop ( big wow ) however to hit a muslim with a shoe is a very big insult so I do understand why he flipped out over it. Ho Hum did I just defend Michelle - god I must go and get some more sleep :conf:

[Lance]

:laugh:

[Hooly One]

Lol Sunny!:joker:

[Hooly One]

Virgin radio have Said that they have been told by an insider. That the evicted housemate will be able to choose another housemate for eviction but in fact that housemate will be immune from next weeks nominations and will not be evicted at all.

So it look like someone is going to get a clear path to the last two weeks.I don't know if this is true?

[bananarama]

Ahmad deserves everything he got from Michelle. The be-heading of a statue (Maureen) that sybolised a human being is offensive byond words. Especially with regard to what is happening with hostages taken by muslim extremists...:mad::mad:

[Mike]

Im just hoping he does get to choose a housemate but then im worried he might choose Dan and he does'nt deserve to go, i hope he takes Michelle with him.

[Sunny_01]

Did you all get the pun though flipped!!!!!! oh come on I am meant to be the one with my head up my butt not you guys lol

[jbellemeg]

:laugh:

[Tina_2004]

Im going to the eviciton night tomorrow and Ive made a sign especially for Ahmad! Look for me people my sign says

''What did Maureen ever do Ah-MAD'' Then it has apic of ahmad dressed as a devil.

I've heard that its true. He can choose anyone he wants and he will be VERY pleased with that. I think he will take either Michelle or Dan because thats the 2 he argues with most!

[Sunny_01]

Has this been confirmed yet? I cetainly think it will be good viewing if it is - I think that Michelle will go off it if Ahmed takes her with him lol

[Sticks]

Phil Edgar Jones was on Richard and Judy this afternoon (I came across this by shear chance honest:blush:)

This rumor was put to him and he would not confirm or deny it, so it looks like it is happening.

Ahmed and Michelle will be evicted tomorrow. By throwing a piece of foot wear at Ahmed, she commited the most grevious insult in Islam. Also Michelle in his eyes was a selfish [insert own expletive] who should have failed the task and sacrificed herself instead of cowardly trying to save her own [insert own expletive] skin.

As for the shopping that they do not need it it is not important and that was a very weak poor excuse to betray 6 housemates. And besides what right has a woman to give any orders to a man. (He never had any problem with Jason I wonder why)

etc. :rolleyes:

Get the picture :bored:

Michelle will be evicted this Friday

[AndyJK]

I just don't buy it at all. And I doubt whoever gets evicted will be able to pick one of the sargeants even if it were true. I can see there being a double eviction, but through the usual process of number of votes received from the public.

Michelle received immunity for one week, and I can't see BB going back on that.

[Kore]

cmon ahmed , Take nadia with you!:hello::hello::hello:

[Sticks]

Originally posted by AndyJK
Michelle received immunity for one week, and I can't see BB going back on that.

But to say you have immunity and then to turn around and say

We Lied:devil:

would fit into the genre of Big Brother Gets Evil

Michelle will be booted out tomorrow, it is as good as confirmed, since Phil Edgar Jones did not dismiss the story in the Daily Star when it was put to him.

Nadia did not commit the most vile insult you can do to a Muslim, Michelle did by throwing a flip flop at him. (Throwing a shoe at a Muslim is a deep insult this was why Iraqis were beating fallen statues of Saddam Husain with their shoes)

[JC]

Oh yeah, I forgot the segeants received immunity. Maybe Ahmed will only be able to choose from the privates, which would almost definitely see Dan leaving. Or maybe he'll be able to choose someone Becki-style who will definitley face the vote next week.

Is the flip-flop flinging a genuine insult to a Muslim? I've noticed several people mention this, but it just seems a little far-fetched to me.

[Sticks]

Yes - see edited post above

[JC]

Wow, guess you learn something new every day. Michelle learned the hard way :spin2:

Is there any symbolic meaning behind it then? I mean, nobody would like to have shoes thrown at them, but I can think of worse things to be pelted with.

[Kore]

yeah if a muslim shows you the sole of thier foot, that supposed to be the biggest insult you can get! :shocked:

[bananarama]

It could only be an insult if she was aware of the muslim culture.

If flip flops are an insult then that's his problem. Not michelle's. He has no right to expect others not of his belief or culture to follow his culture.

[Kore]

yeah i totally agree with ya bananarama :hugesmile::xyxwave:

[JC]

I agree with you in so much as Michelle probably didn't know it was an insult to his culture. I doubt Ahmed will see it like that though.

[bananarama]

It does not matter how Ahmad see's it. No one is obliged to follow a culture alien to there own in there own and natural domain.

Trying to respect anothers culture is the polite or diplomatic thing to do. But at the end day we all have a duty to our own standards of living.

I do believe Ahmad has got a big problem accepting the equal rights of women. Having Michelle give him orders was the last straw for him. Sorry but that's his problem. Not anyone elses.

In perspective it's not his fault up to a point as all cultures of all nationalities derive from being brainwashed as children to follow whatever standards parents and grand parents inflict on there off spring.

A vicious circle difficult to break. The populations of the world pays a heavy price as a result.....

[Red Moon]

If this rumor turms out to be true I'll wave bye bye to BB5 UK and watch BB5 USA on the web.

I just can't stand the way BB5 UK is not letting us decide who we vote out of the house this year.

RED

[Mike]

I just think its unfair that Dan could be going

[bananarama]

You have a valid point red moon. BB is not just being "Evil" but is being dicriminatery and unfair against specific housemates.

The eviction of Emma alone for one who only had one warning.

The first and final warning of Michelle for another while Victor and Jason have broken rule on multiple occasions and are still there.

The Judas kiss another. It was inevatable a female housemate would get the kiss as Becki after only a short time in there had not bonded well enough to kiss Jason or Victor on both cheeks without raising suspicion.

I am all in favout of BB being "evil". Bur fairly so against all the housemates.

[JC]

You can't have evil and fair, where's the fun in that?

[bananarama]

If you were to enter a competition and then find the organisers influence who can or can't win. They would be in contempt of the law. BB is treading a thin line.....

[kaphc]

When they were talking about "throwing a flip-flop" last night, I thought it was a way of saying that Michelle was getting mad with Ahmed. It was only when she was in the diary room that I realised!!

Anyway, what about the double eviction on Friday? Has anyone seen the C4 TV schedule? Is it the same 9pm and 10pm shows? If it is, then I don't see how they are going to fit another double eviction in as it will mean that there won't be time to do the interviews etc.

[JC]

How? BB draws the line, it can be on whichever side it chooses. If it was hung up on being fair, it'd have to give each housemate equal screentime (among other things) BB has never been fair. To be fair is to be predictable

[bananarama]

Extract from Ofcom's proposed Broadcasting standards consultation.


Background to proposed Code section 7 - Fairness
1. The regulation of broadcasting regarding fairness is intended to protect those taking part in person in a programme (or who are otherwise directly affected) from being unfairly treated.

2. Section 3(2)(f) of the Act requires Ofcom to apply standards that provide adequate protection to members of the public and all other persons from unfair treatment in programmes. With regard to fairness, Ofcom is required by section 327 of the Act to take over the functions of the BSC contained in part 5 of the 1996 Act (with some exceptions).

3. Particularly, under section 107(1) of the 1996 Act, Ofcom has a duty to draw up a Code giving guidance as to the principles to be observed and the practices to be followed in connection with avoiding unfair and unjust treatment in programmes. The legislation on which the regulation in this area is based is otherwise unchanged from the 1996 Act. The aim of the principle and rules in the proposed Code is therefore, as can be expected, similar to the Code of Guidance issued by the BSC which is currently in force.

[golden~rose]

ok, so im confused how. is there actually going to be a double eviction???

[Hooly One]

I don't know Isha? i think it could just be a rumour

[golden~rose]

if there was a double eviction they would have made it clear by now, so i guess you're right there hooly!

if there was a double eviction and ahmed had to choose i would cross my fingers so he doesnt choose nadia!!! maybe a double eviction isnt such a good idea!!

[Hooly One]

I think it's just a rumour and like you said i'm sure they would of mentioned a twist was going to happen on friday.

[golden~rose]

thanx hooly

[Hooly One]

:thumbs:

[Julia L]

If this is true then he'll probably pick Michelle - but please God, don't let it be Dan!

[golden~rose]

if there was such a double eviction then...
dan has a slight chance but i dont know why would pick him over michelle, because it was really against ahmed and michelle than ahmed and dan!!

i do plead that he doesnt pick nadia

[Hooly One]

Originally posted by Julia L
If this is true then he'll probably pick Michelle - but please God, don't let it be Dan!

Well michelle past the task, meaning her and jason are safe this week. so he can't pick her, so he's likely going to pick Dan or shell.

[JC]

I'd say Dan or Nadia. He's got no beef with Shell, plus Vic gave him that pep-talk about helping Jay out with his "war"

[Hooly One]

Originally posted by JC
I'd say Dan or Nadia. He's got no beef with Shell, plus Vic gave him that pep-talk about helping Jay out with his "war"

No, he has no problem with nadia, she hasn't annoyed him this week or even last week.

Ahmed's has had a lot of arguments with dan this week and if ahmed can't pick Michelle then he's going for Dan.

Because he probably has it in his mind, that if he isn't evicted this friday that he will Want to Nominate Dan & Michelle.

[JC]

Yeah, Dan would be the favourite. I just meant Nadia would be a possible alternate even though she hasn't annoyed Ahmed directly, she has been annoying one of his few friends in the house.

[golden~rose]

up until when ahmed had arguments with michelle/dan

nadia was at the top of his hate list!

[Julia L]

If Ahmed picks Dan to be evicted alongside him, I'm not going to watch any more BB5. I mean, I like some of the others but Dan was the main reason I watched it.

[golden~rose]

:laugh:

[Hooly One]

Originally posted by Julia L
If Ahmed picks Dan to be evicted alongside him, I'm not going to watch any more BB5. I mean, I like some of the others but Dan was the main reason I watched it.

Well like i said twice before, it could just be a rumour.

I hope it is:thumbs:

[JC]

Usually they'd drop a hint by now.

[golden~rose]

i agree, we would know by now!

[Hooly One]

True and BBLB didn't mention anything.

Richard & judy asked a BB Producer if a double eviction was going to happen this friday and he said No Comment.

So who knows??:shocked:

[golden~rose]

:conf:

[JC]

They're just stoking the rumour fire.

We've jumped all over this, I reckon most other BB communities have done the same. The suprising thing for BB to do now would be if they didn't have a double eviction!

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by Sticks
Originally posted by AndyJK
Michelle received immunity for one week, and I can't see BB going back on that.

But to say you have immunity and then to turn around and say

We Lied:devil:

would fit into the genre of Big Brother Gets Evil

Michelle will be booted out tomorrow, it is as good as confirmed, since Phil Edgar Jones did not dismiss the story in the Daily Star when it was put to him.

Nadia did not commit the most vile insult you can do to a Muslim, Michelle did by throwing a flip flop at him. (Throwing a shoe at a Muslim is a deep insult this was why Iraqis were beating fallen statues of Saddam Husain with their shoes)

But if we lose two housemates this week with one choosing the other to join them, that means they'll both appear on BBLB together. That will be very difficult under the circumstances due to the obvious resentment.

I really can't see this happening. Why should a housemate who is popular with the public lose their place in the house due to an evicted housemate disliking them or choosing them for whatever other reasons they have? It wouldn't surprise me if this is a story cooked up by one of the tabloids.

[Julia L]

I've been on the DS forum and a lot of people are saying that it'd be fooling the public if this happened - there'd be outrage! The public are the ones who should choose who goes - NOT another housemate.

There hasn't been any hint from Channel 4 about this, Dermot would've mentioned something if it was true.

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by Julia L
If Ahmed picks Dan to be evicted alongside him, I'm not going to watch any more BB5. I mean, I like some of the others but Dan was the main reason I watched it.

I like Dan a lot and will be disappointed if he leaves as I think he's the only one who can stop Nadia from winning.

[Hooly One]

True Julia L
:thumbs:

[She Devil]

Or just have a double eviction with the two with the most votes.

It shouldn't be up to Ahmed to chose who goes out of the house it should be up to the public and BB have taken that from us enough this year with both Emma and Kitten.

If Ahmed does have to pick someone then this years show has been a fix and BB have already decsided the winner.

[Hooly One]

Good Point SD

[shellspeare]

rumours have it that a double eviction WAS planned for this week but because either ahmed or victor are favourates to go they have put it on hold as evicting either one of these characters is going to be enough entertainment. ch4 producers have also revealed that they will now hold this weeks interveiw inside the studio as the crowds hostility would hinder the interveiwing process!
there has also been reports that lucas arts studios have been advertising job vacancies for security guards (weekend work) this may have something to do with eviction or the next task but only time shall tell

[She Devil]

:thumbs:

[golden~rose]

thanks for the info, i feel very much at ease now!!

[Hooly One]

Yes, but how do we know it's true? it's just another rumour

[JC]

Holding the interview inside is a good idea, I could hardly hear a word of Becki's!

[golden~rose]

could be, but im still leaning towards the double eviction being false info.

im going to try and remain neutral about this

[golden~rose]

i agree JC, i hipe this time they do do that

[JC]

Basically, all we can really do is discuss the rumours. None of us really have a foggy what's gonna happen tomorrow night.

[Hooly One]

True JC:thumbs:

[She Devil]

I may get some flack over this but to me it feels that BB do not want either Jay or Vic to be evicted and each time there is a chance that they might be BB come up with a new idea so that they stay in the house.

These two HM bring alot of money to the show and are the main instigators in any trouble that occurs. Alot of the public have been enraged about some of the stuff they get up to and air their opinions to BB via text/email/phone whatever and of course this brings them more money.

Again Vic And Jay were discussing nominations last night and they were not even reprimanded for this. I would imagine both Emma and Kitten are fuming about this.

[Hooly One]

Agreed She Devil

[Sticks]

I looked at the television schedule for tomorrow night

21:00 - 21:30 Big Brother (Catch-up and then eviction annoucement)

22:00 - 22:30 The Eviction and interview

However after that Bo Selecta is scheduled, but I have not seen any trailers for it when they usually have them in the advert breaks.

This is a big clue that there will be a double eviction.

Ahmed is favourite in the polls to go

Michelle in his view had no right to tell him what to do as she is a women and they should know their place, in submission to the men.

Michelle threw a shoe at him, which was a gross insult, weather she knew that or not is irrelevant.

Phil Edgar Jones did not deny the rumour on Richard and Judy

Michelle will be evicted tomorrow night :bored:

[JC]

I think they were reprimanded. I was flicking E4 on and off last night, and caught them in the lounge (they had previously been in the bedroom) saying that if they were to lose their votes again, they may as well pack their bags.

I never caught them discussing nominations. I'm not saying they didn't, but I just heard them bitching about the boring housemates and hoping that the public makes the right decision by keeping the interesting ones in. That may be written up as "attempting to influence the public vote" but aren't they all guilty of that? That's the idea of the game.

[bananarama]

No doubt you are right. They will do their best to fix it to keep them in as long as they bolster the viewing figures.

BB are cheating the contestants under the claim of being evil. Well cheating is evil.

Like BB said to Michelle they too are skating a thin line as to what will or could be deemed acceptable.

[She Devil]

They also told one another who they have voted for in the past. Jason got annoyed that Victor had voted Vanessa over Nadia. They were discussing nominations before and after that.

[JC]

Oh ah, you're right. I caught the Vanessa discussion. I think they were actually called into the Diary Room for it though.

Personally I want them to drop the rule for BB6 anyway, I like watching the housemates discuss nominations, it's interesting.

[dizzy bint]

Originally posted by She Devil
They also told one another who they have voted for in the past. Jason got annoyed that Victor had voted Vanessa over Nadia. They were discussing nominations before and after that.

This has been strictly against the rules in previous BBs what makes this one any different? After all by saying what they have previously done hints at what they may do in the future.
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I like Dan too and would hate to see him leave because of the whim of someone who has been genuinely evicted by the public.

[bananarama]

If Michelle is evicted on the basis Ahmaed then BB will be evicted from our screens.. Such a manipulation would be a killer blow to their credibility.....BB no more......:devil:

[She Devil]

Well they never got a warning for it though did they JC. You are right about discussing nominations though for BB6 it is interesting. Maybe they should of said it before BB5 started because it is certainly being overlooked in the case of J & V.

[JC]

No they didn't get a warning, they were probably told there's be "concequences" or something, which is why they decided to shut up because losing their votes again would be critical in the last week.

Basically both Vic and Jay are one warning shy of being kicked. But we all know BB aint gonna kick anyone out unless they absolutely have to. That last warning aint coming unless they do something serious.

...and I'm talking day 20 serious.

Same goes for Michelle. "1st and final warning"? She's had another one since, surely she'd be kicked?

BB also caved in big time when they gave Nadia her smokes, they didn't have to. They just knew she'd rather walk, and they don't want to lose housemates. It's as simple as that.

[sheila p]

i agree i would stop watching big brother as michelle was only doing what was asked of her so come on big brother no double eviction tomorrow i for one will be :colour::colour::colour::colour:jumping mad you evil thing you

[She Devil]

Yes agreed. As BB have said they can change the rules when ever they want.

[sheila p]

and we dont have to watch it two can play at there game :laugh::laugh:

[She Devil]

Originally posted by bananarama
If Michelle is evicted on the basis Ahmaed then BB will be evicted from our screens.. Such a manipulation would be a killer blow to their credibility.....BB no more......:devil:



I don't like Michelle but cruely that would be the second time a nasty tactic has occured to her.

I would also have to stop watching if this does happen. It will also affect next years BB. They would be on serious dodgy ground if all this was to happen. Lets just hope that it wont.

[Kore]

i hope they do, it will seriously make the show more entertaining.. haha, :joker::hello:

[Julia L]

Like I said before, if Ahmed does get to choose who goes with him then the public will be outraged because they're the ones who are supposed to vote housemates out. I think if the rumours are true about this then people will turn off in droves out of disgust.

All these rumours tire me, to be honest because they mess with my head too much - far too much "information" to take in at once. If I wasn't jacked on to the Net then I'd be blissfully unaware of all of these rumours.

[vicky]

michelle has already been nominated for eviction by one person (becki)

how unfair would it be forher then to be evicted by one person

evictions should be down to the public and not the whim of an evicted housemate

[Lance]

:thumbs:

[Hooly One]

I agree vicky:thumbs:

[James]

If it was Stuart that was evicted he would need more than half an hour to decide who to evict or nominate! :laugh:

Don't think this rumour is accurate btw.

[Addict]

There is no twist on friday,it will just be a normal evcition night.

If two people were being evicted we would have been told as people would have voted for the two they dislike the most, therefore earning endermol a lot of money. Also more people than usual would tune in to see a double eviction and they would of got higher ratings.

[flyfly5]

I dont care how many flip flops anybody throws at Ahmed. BB5 have given him special treatment. Kitten was kicked the ******* out why not Ahmed? and why should he be allowed to take a decent housemate with him? grrrr I like Ahmed for entertainment value. But giving him rights?! no way. Now, what I would love, is if Shell or Stu or Jason get booted out, and allowed to take one housemate with them. IE Ahmed! :devil::elephant:

[flyfly5]

I know that means potentially giving Ahmed those same rights. bah.

[Kore]

IE Nadia :spin::joker:

[crusader]

Originally posted by Sticks


Ahmed and Michelle will be evicted tomorrow. By throwing a piece of foot wear at Ahmed, she commited the most grevious insult in Islam. Also Michelle in his eyes was a selfish [insert own expletive] who should have failed the task and sacrificed herself instead of cowardly trying to save her own [insert own expletive] skin.

As for the shopping that they do not need it it is not important and that was a very weak poor excuse to betray 6 housemates. And besides what right has a woman to give any orders to a man.

Michelle will be evicted this Friday

what is this man gibbering on about? I am the last one to stand up for the conniving Michelle but Ahmed deserves everything he gets and is going to get.
he is a sly, selfish chauvinist typical of many of his religion.
the skids are under him and let's cheer as he slips into oblivion (some hope!! the red tops will feed off him for a while bless them :devil::love:

[Sunny_01]

I think that as long as we all realise that Ahmed has absolutley no respect for women what so ever we will be fine. It is not his cultures way to accept women as being in authority so why would he respect Michelle. Bananarama is right Michelle could only have insulted Ahmed if she had known it was an insult - all she did was hoy a flip flop at him out of anger and frustration because he will just not let anyone else speak or have an opinion, he has to talk over the top of other people which is very annoying and only his opinion is the right one. God I hope he goes tonight he really gets on my one poor frayed nerve.

RANT OFFICIALLY OVER

[p2pnut]

Originally posted by crusader
Originally posted by Sticks


Ahmed and Michelle will be evicted tomorrow. By throwing a piece of foot wear at Ahmed, she commited the most grevious insult in Islam. Also Michelle in his eyes was a selfish who should have failed the task and sacrificed herself instead of cowardly trying to save her own [insert own expletive] skin.

As for the shopping that they do not need it it is not important and that was a very weak poor excuse to betray 6 housemates. And besides what right has a woman to give any orders to a man.

Michelle will be evicted this Friday

what is this man gibbering on about? I am the last one to stand up for the conniving Michelle but Ahmed deserves everything he gets and is going to get.
he is a sly, selfish chauvinist typical of many of his religion.
the skids are under him and let's cheer as he slips into oblivion (some hope!! the red tops will feed off him for a while bless them :devil::love: [i]my bold emphasis

It is not acceptable to generalise about any religion in this way.

Whilst accepting that there are some cultures which treat women as second class citizens, this is not necessarily a product of mainstream Islam. Sometimes there is an attempt to justify such behaviour by chauvanists (like Ahmed) through their misinterpretation of the Koran - but that is no more the fault of Islam than fundamentalist 'born again' sects are the fault of mainstream Christianity.

I have no religious beliefs myself. However, while there is still a significant minority of people who do hold some form of belief, I feel that they should not be discriminated against (for that, or any other reason).

[p2pnut]

I case my last post is read as being a defence of Ahmed, I would add that his chauvinist behaviour is also totally unacceptable. The only difference is that I hold him personally responsible for his own actions, rather than smear the religion that he purports to believe in.

In point of fact, many of his habits and his behaviour in the house point to him being a very insincere and poor example of a Muslim.

[Tina_2004]

I dont think Michelle or Jason can go tonight because they wont have there suitcases packed. Im heading of in an hour to the show, Im so excited!

[Julia L]

I've checked the Sky TV guide (the onscreen digital one) which usually changes the listings if something in the schedule has been changed (and they always get it right). The 9pm BB is still half an hour...and the 10pm one is the same. If there was going to be a double eviction of some kind then it would've listed this.

I had a bad dream last night that the rumours were true and that Ahmed chose a housemate to go with him - and I was heartbroken because it was Dan. When I woke up I was relieved that it was only a dream.

[Sunny_01]

I am just hoping and praying the Ahemd is the one to go. I have begged for him to go every single week so please lord answer my prayers and get shot of him this week.

[Sticks]

Originally posted by crusader
what is this man gibbering on about? I am the last one to stand up for the conniving Michelle but Ahmed deserves everything he gets and is going to get.
he is a sly, selfish chauvinist typical of many of his religion.
the skids are under him and let's cheer as he slips into oblivion (some hope!! the red tops will feed off him for a while bless them :devil::love:

For the record at the moment as a Cyber Devil's Advocate, my client is Michelle

I was not defending Ahmed but trying to give an incite into his mindset and way of thinking.

On the wider point raised by p2pnut, and I am aware of the thinness of the ice I am skating, there is an issue in the way women are treated in Islam.

For the record, the person at my local chippy is a devout Muslim and I like to go there because we can chat about spiritual things.

However

From the Koran (Translated by John Alden Willimams one of the most accurate translations into English)

Sura 4:38
Men stand superior to women in that God has preferred some of them over others ... But those (wives) whose perverseness ye fear, admonish them and remove them into the bedchambers and beat them


Some individuals may be enlightened, but the teaching do teach that women are inferior, and that should explain why Ahmed had a problem with Michelle being a sergent.

[p2pnut]

hmmmm? Fair point, well made, Sticks.

I guess I was somewhat guilty of the traditional white middle class liberal reaction there.

I do find any form of discrimination offensive ........ but upon reflection that is why I don't support any religion. They all tend to promote their own exclusivity and 'demonise' other brands of belief - whilst themselves being packed with just that type of discriminatory bias against some section of society or other.

:thumbs:

[flyfly5]

I know it's way off topic, but I noticed it got a mention in this thread..
Is Bo Selecta Worse this time? I think so. It's just not very good these days. :sleep:

[Amy]

Originally posted by flyfly5
I know it's way off topic, but I noticed it got a mention in this thread..
Is Bo Selecta Worse this time? I think so. It's just not very good these days. :sleep:

I used to like Avid when he did his small bit on BB3 the Adverts of him kidnapping Craig were quite funny but I've never liked the show I don't find him that funny anymore to be honest.

[flyfly5]

That Koran book should be burned by the look of it. Those "women are second" people should not stuff that rubbish down other peoples throats. Ahmed can have those rules for himself, or the women in his religious group, that have agreed to be submissive like that...but to expect a normal healthy sane woman to bow down to that son of a b*tch is just ridiculous. :mad:

I'm so glad Ahmed is out, and I hope he's looking at himself on the tapes, or dvd's and doing alot of cringing. If I was Ahmed, I'd probably be suicidal by now. Let's hope he just hates himself alot and does a big U-Turn and redeems himself somehow.

[flyfly5]

Speaking of ending it all, I wonder how Kitten's doing... I would be so depressed if I was Kitten looking at myself acting like a deranged idiot on the BB roof. Phew. Being on TV has psychological affects for everybody, but it pains me to think about how it may have affected Ahmed and Kitten. Maybe it's best they never comprehend how silly they are. For their sake.