View Full Version : Mohamed Why do people not like Mo ?
Mo2Win
26-08-2008, 12:41 AM
Is it because "he iz not fit" or "he iz not lush" ?
I bet if he looked better he wouldn't get half as much crap as he does.
Is it a case of shallowness ? :elephant:
Billy
26-08-2008, 12:42 AM
I think people just like entertainment, for some wacky reason.
Princess
26-08-2008, 12:42 AM
He is greedy,annoying,lazy,boring,irriating and childish. He does nothing but sleep,eat and fart and he thinks he can all the girls when he can't!
PARTAYPRiNCESS.
26-08-2008, 12:42 AM
no its a case of he's annoying,greedy and should of been out weeks ago :thumbs:
Locke.
26-08-2008, 12:43 AM
Mo To Win!!!
PARTAYPRiNCESS.
26-08-2008, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Princess
He is greedy,annoying,lazy,boring,irriating and childish. He does nothing but sleep,eat and fart and he thinks he can all the girls when he can't!
LOL! EXACTLY!
30stone
26-08-2008, 12:45 AM
Because i see him running for food every time he sees it and stealing aclohol.
he also laughes at someone being bullied. lies very often and is quite arrogant
sunny
26-08-2008, 12:45 AM
theres alot of mo hater here. check out other forum like c4 and ds differant story there hes liked:thumbs:
30stone
26-08-2008, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Billy21
I think people just like entertainment, for some wacky reason.
lol that was good aha
Tom8592
26-08-2008, 12:54 AM
Jealousy
sunny
26-08-2008, 12:56 AM
Jealousy of the power of the fro
gavinh2008
26-08-2008, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by Princess
He is greedy,annoying,lazy,boring,irriating and childish. He does nothing but sleep,eat and fart and he thinks he can all the girls when he can't!
Spot on, couldnt have put it better myself
PARTAYPRiNCESS.
26-08-2008, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by sunny
Jealousy of the power of the fro
i really dont like mohammed but lol at power of the fro:laugh::thumbs:
wonkeydonkey
26-08-2008, 12:58 AM
I love him. :flowers:
Mo for Pope! Oh well, perhaps not Pope. King!
He is fantastically good-natured and forgiving when people behave outrageously, is always the first to bring things into the open and get them sorted honestly and has been responsible for some of the best and most entertaining moments of the series.
Mo2Win
26-08-2008, 12:59 AM
Hes only GREEDY/LAZY because that what CH4 want you to hink of him.
Hes so greedy yet:
He shared his pizza yesterday - ohhhhh greeeedy Mo.
He gave Sara a trip to heaven - the only housemate to give his laminate prize away. Yep another case of solid greed.
He gave his rota quota of ciders to Nicole. T
Totally greedy OMG the proof is surmountable. Or is it a case of closed mindedness and brain washing by Endemol.
I for one am not falling for their tactics I can think for myself.
Locke.
26-08-2008, 12:59 AM
Vote Mo to Win the Show!
Mo2Win
26-08-2008, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by David_Purdy
Vote Mo to Win the Show!
Respect to you mate for thinking outside the "Matrix" and making your own mind up of the housemates.
I watch LF a lot and think Endemol and CH4 have totally painted him into something he isnt.
I think Mo has a good case for slander and hope he gets a good contract lawyer when he comes out of the house.
he is DISGUSTING, DESPERATE, GREEDY, LAZY, and POINTLESS.. not exactly the type of person you wanna see on your screen every damn night.... and everytime he comes to my mind i just wanna throw up.... and how the hell could he ever think that people like him..?
30stone
26-08-2008, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by sunny
Jealousy of the power of the fro
naturally so much to be jealous for about mo including an ugly hairstyle..
I did like MOmo...I watch his VT to remind me on what he should be like.
He just isn't entertaining me anymore.
Sorry.
dylissimo
26-08-2008, 01:25 AM
SO many reasons, including but by no means limited to his ugliness!
He's just so so horrible, I don't even want to get into because I'll just start ranting. His appearance isn't even 1% of the reason I dislike him.
I honestly CAN'T understand how someone would like him.
SexualHeroics
26-08-2008, 01:30 AM
Jealous of his charisma.
30stone
26-08-2008, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Jealous of his charisma.
sleeping and eating what charisma.
deserves his own show.. lol
Mo2Win
26-08-2008, 01:37 AM
Sleeping and eating is not EXCLUSIVE to mo.
Locke.
26-08-2008, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Jealous of his charisma.
sleeping and eating what charisma.
deserves his own show.. lol
'The Mo Show', good idea 30stone :thumbs:
30stone
26-08-2008, 01:38 AM
Originally posted by David_Purdy
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Jealous of his charisma.
sleeping and eating what charisma.
deserves his own show.. lol
'The Mo Show', good idea 30stone :thumbs:
you know when big brother live is on at 4am when it just shows them sleeping.
it would be less exciting to watch than that..
He's:
- Boring
- Repulsive
- Vile
- Boring
- Lazy
- Greedy
- Boring
- Hypocritical
I could go on, but I forgot to mention he's BORING.
SexualHeroics
26-08-2008, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by Tom
He's:
- Boring
- Repulsive
- Vile
- Boring
- Lazy
- Greedy
- Boring
- Hypocritical
I could go on, but I forgot to mention he's BORING.
This is a good one, just shows there's not much to do Mo for.
You say repulsive, vile and hypocritical. These are all just generic insults which people seem to throw around on here especially when they can't justify their dislike for a housemate. They certainly don't apply to Mo.
You've used boring 3 times for effect.
So all you've got really is....he's boring, lazy and greedy. Which is a very weak argument for disliking someone even a bit. I believe the term is "clutching at straws".
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by Tom
He's:
- Boring
- Repulsive
- Vile
- Boring
- Lazy
- Greedy
- Boring
- Hypocritical
I could go on, but I forgot to mention he's BORING.
This is a good one, just shows there's not much to do Mo for.
You say repulsive, vile and hypocritical. These are all just generic insults which people seem to throw around on here especially when they can't justify their dislike for a housemate. They certainly don't apply to Mo.
You've used boring 3 times for effect.
So all you've got really is....he's boring, lazy and greedy. Which is a very weak argument for disliking someone even a bit. I believe the term is "clutching at straws".
Oh he is extremely hypocritical and when I prove that I'm going to show he is greedy as well, kill 2 birds with one stone.
In his VT he said he eats pork, and he also drinks and smokes. However in the house he pretends to be this Muslim and demands that Halal Meat should go on the shopping list, just so he can eat it. However if he does the three things in the first line then how is that not hypocritical at all? And how is wanting food for himself that noone else can eat not greedy?
The reason for using boring 4 times was for effect, you are right. Mo is one of the most boring housemates in Big Brother history IMO. I honestly can't think of 3 things he has done that have entertained me.
I can't point my finger on why he is vile, he has just made me feel repulsed. I also find his manners quite disgusting and tonight in the ashtray with Sara just made him out to be so desperate.
LemonJam
26-08-2008, 01:59 AM
Just look at the housemates from BB5 and BB6 and see how Mohamed compares.
He's definatley not the worst housemate there, but he's for sure nowhere near the best.
andyman
26-08-2008, 02:21 AM
Its funny that people call mo greedy when lisa eats more that mo! I have seen it but nobody says anything.
Last week kat was making some food and she asked lisa if she wanted some.. Lisa replied, "no its ok because i've already had 3 bowls of musli" 3 fking bowls! But again nobody says anything. Kat and darnell eat loads but mo gets called greedy.
Now with him sleeping... All of them have slept in the day and mikey has done the most.. Your falling for the bb edits all the time, i see it on here that one highlights show its like yay yay i love that housemate... Then the next day with the edits its grrr i hate that housemate... The same housemate aswell.
Its the same with the mo bullying.. The haters are like sheep.
Locke.
26-08-2008, 02:22 AM
Originally posted by andyman
Its funny that people call mo greedy when lisa eats more that mo! I have seen it but nobody says anything.
Last week kat was making some food and she asked lisa if she wanted some.. Lisa replied, "no its ok because i've already had 3 bowls of musli" 3 fking bowls! But again nobody says anything. Kat and darnell eat loads but mo gets called greedy.
Now with him sleeping... All of them have slept in the day and mikey has done the most.. Your falling for the bb edits all the time, i see it on here that one highlights show its like yay yay i love that housemate... Then the next day with the edits its grrr i hate that housemate... The same housemate aswell.
Its the same with the mo bullying.. The haters are like sheep.
Check the Lisa board and back up my Greedy Lisa post :thumbs:
30stone
26-08-2008, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by andyman
Its funny that people call mo greedy when lisa eats more that mo! I have seen it but nobody says anything.
Last week kat was making some food and she asked lisa if she wanted some.. Lisa replied, "no its ok because i've already had 3 bowls of musli" 3 fking bowls! But again nobody says anything. Kat and darnell eat loads but mo gets called greedy.
Now with him sleeping... All of them have slept in the day and mikey has done the most.. Your falling for the bb edits all the time, i see it on here that one highlights show its like yay yay i love that housemate... Then the next day with the edits its grrr i hate that housemate... The same housemate aswell.
Its the same with the mo bullying.. The haters are like sheep.
yeh i noticed stuff like that
like kat crying more than jen
darnell bitching mroe than dale.
gavinh2008
26-08-2008, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by andyman
Its funny that people call mo greedy when lisa eats more that mo! I have seen it but nobody says anything.
Last week kat was making some food and she asked lisa if she wanted some.. Lisa replied, "no its ok because i've already had 3 bowls of musli" 3 fking bowls! But again nobody says anything. Kat and darnell eat loads but mo gets called greedy.
Now with him sleeping... All of them have slept in the day and mikey has done the most.. Your falling for the bb edits all the time, i see it on here that one highlights show its like yay yay i love that housemate... Then the next day with the edits its grrr i hate that housemate... The same housemate aswell.
Its the same with the mo bullying.. The haters are like sheep.
yeh i noticed stuff like that
like kat crying more than jen
darnell bitching mroe than dale.
Not mean Darnell bitching more than Luke, and I never thought that was possible
30stone
26-08-2008, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by gavinh2008
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by andyman
Its funny that people call mo greedy when lisa eats more that mo! I have seen it but nobody says anything.
Last week kat was making some food and she asked lisa if she wanted some.. Lisa replied, "no its ok because i've already had 3 bowls of musli" 3 fking bowls! But again nobody says anything. Kat and darnell eat loads but mo gets called greedy.
Now with him sleeping... All of them have slept in the day and mikey has done the most.. Your falling for the bb edits all the time, i see it on here that one highlights show its like yay yay i love that housemate... Then the next day with the edits its grrr i hate that housemate... The same housemate aswell.
Its the same with the mo bullying.. The haters are like sheep.
yeh i noticed stuff like that
like kat crying more than jen
darnell bitching mroe than dale.
Not mean Darnell bitching more than Luke, and I never thought that was possible
yeh i suppose so..lol
..people just look at someone get to know what their like then dont often chnage their opinion..
Originally posted by Princess
He is greedy,annoying,lazy,boring,irriating and childish. He does nothing but sleep,eat and fart and he thinks he can all the girls when he can't!
Totally going in my signature :hugesmile:
Yeah I mean I have nothing against the guy, I just think he should have been out a long time ago because he doesn't provide much entertainment compared to the rest of the housemates and there have been a few housemates who've been evicted that I think should have gotten further than Mo, and now that he's definitely in the final I find it a bit annoying that we can't evict him properly :laugh:
BBkid
26-08-2008, 08:09 AM
Mo ISN'T entertaining, he is greedy, disgusting and selfish. he hasn't really got any good qualities of a HM.
NettoSuperstar!
26-08-2008, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Princess
He is greedy,annoying,lazy,boring,irriating and childish. He does nothing but sleep,eat and fart and he thinks he can all the girls when he can't!
exactly it wouldnt matter what he looked like hes all of the above
Originally posted by andyman
Its funny that people call mo greedy when lisa eats more that mo! I have seen it but nobody says anything.
Last week kat was making some food and she asked lisa if she wanted some.. Lisa replied, "no its ok because i've already had 3 bowls of musli" 3 fking bowls! But again nobody says anything. Kat and darnell eat loads but mo gets called greedy.
Now with him sleeping... All of them have slept in the day and mikey has done the most.. Your falling for the bb edits all the time, i see it on here that one highlights show its like yay yay i love that housemate... Then the next day with the edits its grrr i hate that housemate... The same housemate aswell.
Its the same with the mo bullying.. The haters are like sheep.
The main difference is Mo eats loads when they are on a basic budget and he always takes what he shouldn't have, ie other peoples. Lisa doesn't do that.
cliffsbananas
26-08-2008, 11:16 AM
Personality bypass has Mo.
karezza
26-08-2008, 11:17 AM
Bogey Mo is selfish, nasty, stinking, filthy & lazy. He is a liar & a thief. He slapped Mikey on the head and deliberately hit him on the back of the neck with a ball.
He is a scumbag & a snake.
Bogey Mo & Demented Darnell out.
StevieG
26-08-2008, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Tom
Oh he is extremely hypocritical and when I prove that I'm going to show he is greedy as well, kill 2 birds with one stone.
In his VT he said he eats pork, and he also drinks and smokes. However in the house he pretends to be this Muslim and demands that Halal Meat should go on the shopping list, just so he can eat it. However if he does the three things in the first line then how is that not hypocritical at all? And how is wanting food for himself that noone else can eat not greedy?
Is this your biggest gripe with him? Pretty pathetic really, seeing as you support a maneater who plays guys off against eachother and plays with their feeelings, causing heartache and distress.
What has Mo ever done to hurt anybody in there?
Going back to the whole muslim ordeal. He comes from a muslim family, and maybe his parents have accepted that he drinks and smokes but would be very angry to see him munching down on non halal meat on national t.v. Its called disrespect, and the halal thing is quite a big deal to muslims.
Why not try looking beneath the surfice?
Oh, and everyone can happily eat the halal meat, and they have done on many occasions.
Its just ammunition really, and also a very trivial reason to dislike someone so much.
Every housemate in there has been hypocritical at some point, and so have most of the population. Its human nature.
Originally posted by Tom
The reason for using boring 4 times was for effect, you are right. Mo is one of the most boring housemates in Big Brother history IMO. I honestly can't think of 3 things he has done that have entertained me.
Yeah right....
What about Stuart? Rachel? Maysoon? Dale? Sara? Kat?
What the hell have any of them done that is so special?
And thats just this year alone.
Mo has been part of some of the biggest storylines of the year, and his Mo-ments are hilarious.
What show are you watching man?
Originally posted by Tom
I can't point my finger on why he is vile, he has just made me feel repulsed. I also find his manners quite disgusting and tonight in the ashtray with Sara just made him out to be so desperate.
Sara and Mohamed have a banter based relationship now. They have disliked eachother in the past, but do the mature thing and stay civil to eachothers face. They have a light hearted relationship based on playing around and generally consisting of Mo winding her up with flirty comments.
If you don't get it, then thats your problem.
Originally posted by Tom
The main difference is Mo eats loads when they are on a basic budget and he always takes what he shouldn't have, ie other peoples. Lisa doesn't do that.
Sara admitted to eating 4 peanut butter and jam sarnies aswell as her 3 meals on a basic budget.
What about pizzagate? (Stu, Dale, Rex)
What about Sylvia hiding the food for the whisper club? Once again on a basic budget.
What about Mikey hiding food underneath his bed? On a basic budget....
What about Darnell and Dale's late night cook ups?
You are just using any old ammunition to express your dislike for this character.
Is is it one rule for some and a different rule for others?
That seems to be the case here. Otherwise going by your logic, you should hate everyone in the house.
SexualHeroics
26-08-2008, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Oh he is extremely hypocritical and when I prove that I'm going to show he is greedy as well, kill 2 birds with one stone.
In his VT he said he eats pork, and he also drinks and smokes. However in the house he pretends to be this Muslim and demands that Halal Meat should go on the shopping list, just so he can eat it. However if he does the three things in the first line then how is that not hypocritical at all? And how is wanting food for himself that noone else can eat not greedy?
You don't need to prove he's greedy, we'll accept that as a given, seeing as he's nicknamed "Greedy Mo". Even though it's no big deal him enjoying a bit of food and drink.
So you're just left with this claim that he's hypocritical, to add to your measley list of "greedy, boring and lazy" as good reasons to dislike him. Now the problem here is you've misunderstood the concept of hypocrisy. It's a close call, I'll give you that, but Mo's attitude towards his religion does not make him a hypocrite, certainly not because of the halal meat issue, and here's why. Mo is an independant thinker who tries to honour his religion, but is intelligent enough to see through it's old fashioned pointless ways. Therefore he uses it's guidance where he sees fit and still allows himself to enjoy certain aspects of life such as smoking, eating pork and drinking alcohol. Now, the reason Mo might request halal chicken or lamb is because these are available to him even within the strict rules of the Islam doctrine - so he refrains from crossing that line. To call him a hypocrite for breaking some rules but not all of them is to misunderstand the situation.
Your theory that he does it to be greedy and get more for himself is something you've dreamt up yourself, therefore void. Often Mo's settled for different meats rather than chicken or lamb seeing as other housemates kick up such a fuss. I believe he even honours the "no beef" rule, too.
Originally posted by StevieG
Is this your biggest gripe with him? Pretty pathetic really, seeing as you support a maneater who plays guys off against eachother and plays with their feeelings, causing heartache and distress.
What has Mo ever done to hurt anybody in there?
Why does who I support have any relevance at all? And for the record its harmless flirting that she does with everyone, you don't see Mikey going into a big strop because Sara rejected him do you? Mo is starting to take it seriously and his attempts are laughable. He treats her like crap saying "I wouldn't go out with her but I would bang her" and "you can have this cider for a 10 second kiss".
Going back to the whole muslim ordeal. He comes from a muslim family, and maybe his parents have accepted that he drinks and smokes but would be very angry to see him munching down on non halal meat on national t.v. Its called disrespect, and the halal thing is quite a big deal to muslims.
Why not try looking beneath the surfice?
Oh, and everyone can happily eat the halal meat, and they have done on many occasions.
Its just ammunition really, and also a very trivial reason to dislike someone so much.
Every housemate in there has been hypocritical at some point, and so have most of the population. Its human nature.
LOL that is the biggest load of crap I have ever read. You're saying its disrepect to not eat halal meat, then what about pork? Pork is forbidden to Muslims so will his parents be angry with that too? Is that disrespectful? Because pork is forbidden it cannot be halal, therefore not only is it breaking the pork rule but its also breaking the halal meat rule.
Yeah right....
What about Stuart? Rachel? Maysoon? Dale? Sara? Kat?
What the hell have any of them done that is so special?
And thats just this year alone.
Mo has been part of some of the biggest storylines of the year, and his Mo-ments are hilarious.
What show are you watching man?
Kat I really liked in the opening weeks, she provided some great entertainment but she peaked too early and I no longer like her.
Rachel has shown a huge strength of character being attacked by Rex on various occasions, one of which Mohamed of all people laughed at. After everything he went through in the opening weeks I would have thought he would be better than that, that was a real turning point for Mo for me.
I find Sara very endearing, if you watch the live feed she is very entertaining, if you watched the other night where Big Brother pulled a prank on her in the camera run that is a recent good example.
Sara and Mohamed have a banter based relationship now. They have disliked eachother in the past, but do the mature thing and stay civil to eachothers face. They have a light hearted relationship based on playing around and generally consisting of Mo winding her up with flirty comments.
If you don't get it, then thats your problem.
Again, Mo's treatment of her behind her back is bad. I know Sara nominated him every week but at least she didn't go around being derogatory towards him and remained quite civil. Mo is only civil to her face.
Sara admitted to eating 4 peanut butter and jam sarnies aswell as her 3 meals on a basic budget.
What about pizzagate? (Stu, Dale, Rex)
What about Sylvia hiding the food for the whisper club? Once again on a basic budget.
What about Mikey hiding food underneath his bed? On a basic budget....
What about Darnell and Dale's late night cook ups?
You are just using any old ammunition to express your dislike for this character.
Is is it one rule for some and a different rule for others?
That seems to be the case here. Otherwise going by your logic, you should hate everyone in the house.
The thing about the others is that they take repeatedly what wasn't theirs.
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by Tom
Oh he is extremely hypocritical and when I prove that I'm going to show he is greedy as well, kill 2 birds with one stone.
In his VT he said he eats pork, and he also drinks and smokes. However in the house he pretends to be this Muslim and demands that Halal Meat should go on the shopping list, just so he can eat it. However if he does the three things in the first line then how is that not hypocritical at all? And how is wanting food for himself that noone else can eat not greedy?
You don't need to prove he's greedy, we'll accept that as a given, seeing as he's nicknamed "Greedy Mo". Even though it's no big deal him enjoying a bit of food and drink.
So you're just left with this claim that he's hypocritical, to add to your measley list of "greedy, boring and lazy" as good reasons to dislike him. Now the problem here is you've misunderstood the concept of hypocrisy. It's a close call, I'll give you that, but Mo's attitude towards his religion does not make him a hypocrite, certainly not because of the halal meat issue, and here's why. Mo is an independant thinker who tries to honour his religion, but is intelligent enough to see through it's old fashioned pointless ways. Therefore he uses it's guidance where he sees fit and still allows himself to enjoy certain aspects of life such as smoking, eating pork and drinking alcohol. Now, the reason Mo might request halal chicken or lamb is because these are available to him even within the strict rules of the Islam doctrine - so he refrains from crossing that line. To call him a hypocrite for breaking some rules but not all of them is to misunderstand the situation.
Your theory that he does it to be greedy and get more for himself is something you've dreamt up yourself, therefore void. Often Mo's settled for different meats rather than chicken or lamb seeing as other housemates kick up such a fuss. I believe he even honours the "no beef" rule, too.
Yes it does, that just seems to be a long paragraph to try and excuse what he does.
The dictionary definition of hypocrisy:
1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
2. a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.
3. an act or instance of hypocrisy.
In religion you do not pick and choose what rules you follow, especially two which are so closely linked.
Oh and I'd like to add extremely bad manners to that list.
SexualHeroics
26-08-2008, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Tom
In religion you do not pick and choose what rules you follow, especially two which are so closely linked.
You most certainly do! Religion is a guidance for people who are sensible and intelligent enough to use it's benefits properly - like Mo.
By tradition he feels obliged to follow religion for his family's sake, but they are also a family who are clearly willing to not stay stuck in the past, adhering to pointless rules which sensible people can see right through. The only reason Mo continues the halal tradition is out of respect for something which he doesn't necessarily need to rebel against, seeing as it is available already.
What you are confusing as hypocrisy is actually respectful, jusfied rebellion against backward traditions. Although, your confusion is completely understandable, given society's obsession with forcing down our throats the inherently ridiculous concept of religion and it's importance.
Tom8592
26-08-2008, 03:54 PM
He's a young Muslim lad who lives in 21st century London you cant expect him to follow all the rules
moo152
26-08-2008, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by karezza
Bogey Mo is selfish, nasty, stinking, filthy & lazy. He is a liar & a thief. He slapped Mikey on the head and deliberately hit him on the back of the neck with a ball.
He is a scumbag & a snake.
Bogey Mo & Demented Darnell out. Deliberately hit mikey with a ball? I dont think so
Tom8592
26-08-2008, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by Tom
In religion you do not pick and choose what rules you follow, especially two which are so closely linked.
You most certainly do! Religion is a guidance for people who are sensible and intelligent enough to use it's benefits properly - like Mo.
By tradition he feels obliged to follow religion for his family's sake, but they are also a family who are clearly willing to not stay stuck in the past, adhering to pointless rules which sensible people can see right through. The only reason Mo continues the halal tradition is out of respect for something which he doesn't necessarily need to rebel against, seeing as it is available already.
What you are confusing as hypocrisy is actually respectful, jusfied rebellion against backward traditions. LOL at your sig:laugh:
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by Tom
In religion you do not pick and choose what rules you follow, especially two which are so closely linked.
You most certainly do! Religion is a guidance for people who are sensible and intelligent enough to use it's benefits properly - like Mo.
By tradition he feels obliged to follow religion for his family's sake, but they are also a family who are clearly willing to not stay stuck in the past, adhering to pointless rules which sensible people can see right through. The only reason Mo continues the halal tradition is out of respect for something which he doesn't necessarily need to rebel against, seeing as it is available already.
What you are confusing as hypocrisy is actually respectful, jusfied rebellion against backward traditions. Although, your confusion is completely understandable, given society's obsession with forcing down our throats the inherently ridiculous concept of religion and it's importance.
Religion is moral guidelines by which to live your life. If you say you are a good Muslim, Christian whatever then the chances are you follow the vast majority of the rules, especially all of the obvious ones. If you don't follow most the the rules, especially the obvious ones, then you are not a good follower of your religion and the "rebellion" is just an excuse for not following your religion properly but saying you are still a part of that religion.
Mo does not follow the halal guidelines, otherwise he wouldn't eat pork.
Originally posted by Tom8592
He's a young Muslim lad who lives in 21st century London you cant expect him to follow all the rules
That is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. If he wants to be a Muslim then he should follow most of the rules. I say most because its impossible for everyone to know them all, but the obvious ones, and especially ones so closely linked should definitely be followed.
He says he won't eat non-halal meat because its against his religion, however he thinks its fine to eat pork, pork which is forbidden and as a consequence is not halal meat.
That is the point I'm trying to get across but I thought both of you might have been intelligent enough to figure that out.
SexualHeroics
26-08-2008, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Tom
He says he won't eat non-halal meat because its against his religion, however he thinks its fine to eat pork, pork which is forbidden and as a consequence is not halal meat.
That is the point I'm trying to get across but I thought both of you might have been intelligent enough to figure that out.
You're basing your argument on the fundamentals of a backward, old fashioned religion. Mo doesn't claim to be a strict muslim, therefore he is not pretending to be anything he's not. Your halal point has already been contested, so there's no need to simply reiterate.
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by Tom
He says he won't eat non-halal meat because its against his religion, however he thinks its fine to eat pork, pork which is forbidden and as a consequence is not halal meat.
That is the point I'm trying to get across but I thought both of you might have been intelligent enough to figure that out.
You're basing your argument on the fundamentals of a backward, old fashioned religion. Mo doesn't claim to be a strict muslim, therefore he is not pretending to be anything he's not. Your halal point has already been contested, so there's no need to simply reiterate.
... contested with "religion rebellion" which holds absolutely no ground because it is opinion based. He shouldn't even pretend to be associated with Islam, I'd be disgusted with him even if I was only semi-religious and he was doing that.
SexualHeroics
26-08-2008, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Tom
... contested with "religion rebellion" which holds absolutely no ground because it is opinion based. He shouldn't even pretend to be associated with Islam, I'd be disgusted with him even if I was only semi-religious and he was doing that.
Well then you're indoctrinated into the unhealthy mindset of fundamentalist religion, which is of no benefit to any free thinking sane person.
It's not your business what inspiration people take from various religions. Religious fundamentalism is an absolute joke and as weak an argument as anyone could give for any subject.
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by Tom
... contested with "religion rebellion" which holds absolutely no ground because it is opinion based. He shouldn't even pretend to be associated with Islam, I'd be disgusted with him even if I was only semi-religious and he was doing that.
Well then you're indoctrinated into the unhealthy mindset of fundamentalist religion, which is of no benefit to any free thinking sane person.
It's not your business what inspiration people take from various religions. Religious fundamentalism is an absolute joke and as weak an argument as anyone could give for any subject.
People are choosing not to follow religion/disassociate themselves/be "semi religious" because in todays society being religious holds no ground with scientific evidence. Just 100 years ago being religious was a huge part of everyones life, just as much as laws are. It was frowned upon by people if you weren't strictly religious. The only comparison we have is legal laws. If people choose to break a legal law, its often frowned upon, just as it would be if you broke a moral law (gained from religion) all those years ago. But with the advances of science less and less people are religious and religion is being diluted to a massive extent and is just generally being cheapened. People are using this "rebellion against religion" to justify breaking moral laws set out by their religion, however if they lived even just 100 years ago they would be thought of as a disgrace to their religion. However its somewhat acceptable these days because noone cares about religion, although some people still are and some people claim to be just to please others when clearly they aren't, just like Mohamed. I would have a hell of a lot more respect for Mohamed if he admitted he isn't a Muslim in the slightest.
Locke.
26-08-2008, 04:43 PM
At the end of the day 90% of the people on this forum don't know a good housemate when they see one [ I mean, look at Mario for god sakes! ] , that's their problem. At least some of us here know what the editors are up to and don't fall for the **** during the h/l shows. Mohamed has made the final week for a good reason, and that reason is because he is a better person and better housemate than the others who have been booted out by the public.
Mo To Win!
SexualHeroics
26-08-2008, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by SexualHeroics
Originally posted by Tom
... contested with "religion rebellion" which holds absolutely no ground because it is opinion based. He shouldn't even pretend to be associated with Islam, I'd be disgusted with him even if I was only semi-religious and he was doing that.
Well then you're indoctrinated into the unhealthy mindset of fundamentalist religion, which is of no benefit to any free thinking sane person.
It's not your business what inspiration people take from various religions. Religious fundamentalism is an absolute joke and as weak an argument as anyone could give for any subject.
People are choosing not to follow religion/disassociate themselves/be "semi religious" because in todays society being religious holds no ground with scientific evidence. Just 100 years ago being religious was a huge part of everyones life, just as much as laws are. It was frowned upon by people if you weren't strictly religious. The only comparison we have is legal laws. If people choose to break a legal law, its often frowned upon, just as it would be if you broke a moral law (gained from religion) all those years ago. But with the advances of science less and less people are religious and religion is being diluted to a massive extent and is just generally being cheapened. People are using this "rebellion against religion" to justify breaking moral laws set out by their religion, however if they lived even just 100 years ago they would be thought of as a disgrace to their religion. However its somewhat acceptable these days because noone cares about religion, although some people still are and some people claim to be just to please others when clearly they aren't, just like Mohamed. I would have a hell of a lot more respect for Mohamed if he admitted he isn't a Muslim in the slightest.
Good response.
As you point out, science has disproved many of the old religious myths and people are becoming more enlightened to the fact that they are merely moral guidelines rather than universal laws.
I will say, Mohammed does seem to put a good deal of emphasis on his religious stance to say he doesn't follow it too strictly, sometimes even I've thought well why go on about it if you want to be so rebellious about it, but it's no bad thing. Islam doesn't seem quite so backward and intolerant when you see it practised Mo's way, and any proud muslim would do well to appreciate that, really.
I do fully accept all your points and hope you do the same with mine but I think we should agree to disagree on this one before it goes off into a thread on religion :joker:
SexualHeroics
26-08-2008, 05:34 PM
Sure, we've said all we need to say on the issue without it turning into a boring religious one. An understanding has been reached.
Adamw92
26-08-2008, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by David_Purdy
At the end of the day 90% of the people on this forum don't know a good housemate when they see one [ I mean, look at Mario for god sakes! ] , that's their problem. At least some of us here know what the editors are up to and don't fall for the **** during the h/l shows. Mohamed has made the final week for a good reason, and that reason is because he is a better person and better housemate than the others who have been booted out by the public.
Mo To Win!
Don't know a good contestant?, of all the contestants as an example you pick Mario and most Mo fans dont like bitchy housemates...i think you should watch the show when Mario was in it and see for yourself
Princess
27-08-2008, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Z
Originally posted by Princess
He is greedy,annoying,lazy,boring,irriating and childish. He does nothing but sleep,eat and fart and he thinks he can all the girls when he can't!
Totally going in my signature :hugesmile:
Yeah I mean I have nothing against the guy, I just think he should have been out a long time ago because he doesn't provide much entertainment compared to the rest of the housemates and there have been a few housemates who've been evicted that I think should have gotten further than Mo, and now that he's definitely in the final I find it a bit annoying that we can't evict him properly :laugh:
*blushes* I'm in a signature!
ruination
27-08-2008, 06:17 AM
MO TO WIN!!
I can't really put into words why I like Mo so much ... he's just so normal. Plus, (speaking as a girl), he is strangely attractive.
To me, if I look at the house, I like lots of the other people in there (e.g. Lisa and Mikey), but to me, Mo is the clear winner now.
(Since poor Darnell messed it up)
ruination
27-08-2008, 11:00 AM
I love Mo. I think he represents the average Joe.
Anyone with a voting finger should vote for him.
He is funny, and farty, and doesn't bother to bitch.
He is hilarious.
Vote MO!
karezza
27-08-2008, 11:05 AM
Mohammed is - a thief, a liar, a lazy b*stard, a slob. He deliberately hit Mikey on the back of the neck with a ball. He falls off chairs to get the public's attention. He is playing a sly game.
He is a sly, nasty snake.
xDramatick
27-08-2008, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Adamw92
Originally posted by David_Purdy
At the end of the day 90% of the people on this forum don't know a good housemate when they see one [ I mean, look at Mario for god sakes! ] , that's their problem. At least some of us here know what the editors are up to and don't fall for the **** during the h/l shows. Mohamed has made the final week for a good reason, and that reason is because he is a better person and better housemate than the others who have been booted out by the public.
Mo To Win!
Don't know a good contestant?, of all the contestants as an example you pick Mario and most Mo fans dont like bitchy housemates...i think you should watch the show when Mario was in it and see for yourself
Totally agree with you.
Surely if the majority don't know a good housemate, then it's the other way around &the MINORITY don't know a good housemate? o___O I could say the same thing about Dennis. lmfao.
Mohamed has made the final weeks because he's slipped under the radar. If he had shown more of his repulsive/disgusting side earlier on, he'd easily have gone. Just because a housemate makes the final week, doesn't necessarily make them a good housemate. Loads of good housemates get booted out before the final.
Mohamed is disliked because he's greedy. He takes and leaves others without, and seems to do anything for more. He's disgusting, what with the bogey, and the weird fascination with Sara. He's lazy, and totally brought the water being thrown over him on himself. Housemates know not to sleep in the day and it was his bad attitude that caused that. He is a hypocrite, and Tom's covered that perfectly so I don't need to go into anymore detail. He's a bad housemate. He's boring, he's not done a single thing throughout his time in the house that has entertained or even slightly amused me and I've disliked him from pretty much the start. If he won, it'd be the biggest travesty in Big Brother history, he does not deserve it at all and IMO, he IS the worst housemate ever.
Tom8592
27-08-2008, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by ruination
I love Mo. I think he represents the average Joe.
Anyone with a voting finger should vote for him.
He is funny, and farty, and doesn't bother to bitch.
He is hilarious.
Vote MO! I agree with this
GiRTh
27-08-2008, 01:36 PM
Basically, he's too trifling. Because of that I just cant take him seriously.
This list is going to be long, lets just shorten it....
Lazy, Fat, Sleazy and Boring
Originally posted by ruination
I love Mo. I think he represents the average Joe.
Anyone with a voting finger should vote for him.
He is funny, and farty, and doesn't bother to bitch.
He is hilarious.
Vote MO!
If he's average then this country is screwed
Adamw92
27-08-2008, 03:06 PM
Mo is selfish and greedy, they just lost the task because of him
ruination
28-08-2008, 01:12 PM
I really like this post, as a huge Mo fan, but I have to say, he IS fit and lush. Mo is seriously sexy. He is hot property.
AirWalk
28-08-2008, 01:20 PM
If i knew he was gonna be like this,i would have evicted mohammed instead of sylvia.Seriously,hes getting on my nerves more than sylvia :mad:
ruination
28-08-2008, 01:22 PM
Thanks Tom 8592
ruination
28-08-2008, 07:00 PM
Mo should win.
As Mr Purdy said, it's the power of the fro.
No beating that.
MO TO WIN
Adamw92
28-08-2008, 10:56 PM
how about the power of entertainment, something Mo doesn't have
ruination
29-08-2008, 04:58 PM
marcjzp ... whatever ..
what is bad about being lazy, fat, sleazy and boring?
Description of most viewers no?
Better than being two-faced, manipulative, and fake.
peacemaker
29-08-2008, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Mo2Win
Is it because "he iz not fit" or "he iz not lush" ?
I bet if he looked better he wouldn't get half as much c**p as he does.
Is it a case of shallowness ? :elephant:
i think if you saw him in the diary room on the HL show last night you'll see why ppl don't like him let alone love him
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