RACHEL: SCHOOL DAZE

[brandstifter]

Don't get me wrong - I love Rachel. She's so friendly and so positive and I hope she wins (especially as it'll annoy Luke, Bex, Nicole, Rex and Darnell so much). But come on – I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I hear a trainee teacher reveal that:

1. She doesn’t know how many days there are in a year.
2. She doesn’t know if a potato’s a vegetable…
3. …and thinks a tomato is one.
4. She thinks London’s a village.
5. She’s never head of Boris Johnson.
6. She doesn’t know what a walrus is.
7. She thinks Belgium is a city.
8. She doesn’t know what condiments are.
9. She doesn't know what the word 'peril' means.
10. She's never heard the phrase "toilet humour".
11. She thinks Mexico is a Caribbean island.

Rachel, you’re a great gal but come on – get it sorted! Our children’s futures are in your hands, lol! :whistle:

[Ross]

Children don't learn that stuff at school though.

She did the Alphabetic backwards really quick, that's enough.

[decdec456]

She frickin does know what these things are

trying to forge out a character for herself in the last few weeks

with the chirpy baby goo goo and stupid card

who is that girl fooling?

Not that many it appears as she is unbelievably popular

sigh

WORSE THAN CAMERON

WORSE THAN CAMERON

:spin2:

[brandstifter]

Originally posted by Ross
Children don't learn that stuff at school though.

She did the Alphabetic backwards really quick, that's enough.

Been a while since you were at school, lol? :pat:

[AndyShields]

She wants to teach drama and English most of that stuff isn't really necessary, especially not for the former which I take it she's more interested in.
Most primary school teachers aren't masterminds, and they don't need to be, they need to be caring, emotionally intelligent and able to teach (Obviously) and Rachel is all those things.

[brandstifter]

Originally posted by AndyShields
She wants to teach drama and English most of that stuff isn't really necessary, especially not for the former which I take it she's more interested in.
Most primary school teachers aren't masterminds, and they don't need to be, they need to be caring, emotionally intelligent and able to teach (Obviously) and Rachel is all those things.

They also need a range of qualifications and its hard to see how Rachel was intelligent enough to obtain them! :shrug:

[Locke.]

I've supported her all the way through but the last couple of weeks I've noticed a load of things about her... she is fake!

[AlexBigBrother]

she thought mexico was a carribean island

[brandstifter]

Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
she thought mexico was a carribean island

Did she? Thanks - I shall have to add that one! :xyxwave:

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by decdec456
She frickin does know what these things are

trying to forge out a character for herself in the last few weeks

with the chirpy baby goo goo and stupid card

who is that girl fooling?

Not that many it appears as she is unbelievably popular

sigh

WORSE THAN CAMERON

WORSE THAN CAMERON

:spin2:

your so right im glad im not the only one on here who can see it,oh yeh not forgetting

'darnell are you black?'


well freaking daarrrrh!she knew fine well he was black god shes SO fake its unbelievable!!!

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Ross
Children don't learn that stuff at school though.

She did the Alphabetic backwards really quick, that's enough.


you didnt do geography at school then?:joker:

[AndyShields]

Originally posted by brandstifter
Originally posted by AndyShields
She wants to teach drama and English most of that stuff isn't really necessary, especially not for the former which I take it she's more interested in.
Most primary school teachers aren't masterminds, and they don't need to be, they need to be caring, emotionally intelligent and able to teach (Obviously) and Rachel is all those things.

They also need a range of qualifications and its hard to see how Rachel was intelligent enough to obtain them! :shrug:

Yeah, but teaching qualifications are mostly about childcare with basics in the subjects she'd be teaching.
Dale got a degree, that madwoman on the X Factor got a degree and Bex managed to get qualifications to look after toddlers *shudders*. Rachel's is believable by those standards and judging on what the qualifications are based in.
And she thought Mexico was in the Carribean not that it was an island, which it technically can be defined as being in:thumbs:

[gavinh2008]

I dont even know what toilet humour is, can someone help me out here?

[supernoodles!]

The things Rachel has been questioning such as is a potato a vegetable,whos boris johnson are all common sense!she KNOWS these things she just being fake and putting on a great bit act!

[brandstifter]

"Who's Boris Johnson?" ~ Rachel

Would that be the Boris Johnson who's the Mayor of London, occasional TV presenter, Tory MP, shadow Education Minister, former editor of the Spectator, frequent topic of controversial headline news and all-round media celebrity? Nope, sorry, never heard of him!
:pat:

[AndyShields]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
The things Rachel has been questioning such as is a potato a vegetable,whos boris johnson are all common sense!she KNOWS these things she just being fake and putting on a great bit act!

Other housemates have been cripplingly stupid over the series though.
Rex thought being proud of curves was 'sexual' and has made countless mistakes
Dale made a million and two mistakes about everything
Bex thought Luke was a 'politic' and that Hilary Duff was running for President as well as countless other much more mindless things than the dubious list on Rachel up there
Why is Rachel fake and they aren't?

[brandstifter]

Originally posted by AndyShields
Originally posted by supernoodles!
The things Rachel has been questioning such as is a potato a vegetable,whos boris johnson are all common sense!she KNOWS these things she just being fake and putting on a great bit act!

Other housemates have been cripplingly stupid over the series though.
Rex thought being proud of curves was 'sexual' and has made countless mistakes
Dale made a million and two mistakes about everything
Bex thought Luke was a 'politic' and that Hilary Duff was running for President as well as countless other much more mindless things than the dubious list on Rachel up there
Why is Rachel fake and they aren't?

Lisa's grasp of language has been amusing too and she's invented a wealth of new words, such as "interpretated", "fyansay" and "criticalism". :joker:

[AndyShields]

LOL Lisa was hilarious, I want her back :sad: But i don't think she was fake either...
I just think BB attracts people who are a bit dim!

[jonsep]

Originally posted by brandstifter
"Who's Boris Johnson?" ~ Rachel

Would that be the Boris Johnson who's the Mayor of London, occasional TV presenter, Tory MP, shadow Education Minister, former editor of the Spectator, frequent topic of controversial headline news and all-round media celebrity? Nope, sorry, never heard of him!
:pat: god your clever:whistle:

[30stone]

Rachel is ditsy..

not getting mikeys joke tonight lol... so slow.

[KKBL]

shes fake - get over it!lol jokin

[fingers]

Originally posted by AndyShields
LOL Lisa was hilarious, I want her back :sad: But i don't think she was fake either...
I just think BB attracts people who are a bit dim!

A bit dim? it is a marvellous example of where our education system is going!:whistle:

[AndyShields]

I thought it would be a more polite way of putting it than 'a bunch of complete and utter thickos' :whistle:

[brandstifter]

Originally posted by fingers
Originally posted by AndyShields
LOL Lisa was hilarious, I want her back :sad: But i don't think she was fake either...
I just think BB attracts people who are a bit dim!

A bit dim? it is a marvellous example of where our education system is going!:whistle:

Forgive the cliché but I blame the parents. Teachers’ hands are tied. :nono:

[BigOz]

Originally posted by brandstifter

1. She doesn’t know how many days there are in a year.
2. She doesn’t know if a potato’s a vegetable…
3. …and thinks a tomato is one.
4. She thinks London’s a village.
5. She’s never head of Boris Johnson.
6. She doesn’t know what a walrus is.
7. She thinks Belgium is a city.
8. She doesn’t know what condiments are.
9. She doesn't know what the word 'peril' means.
10. She's never heard the phrase "toilet humour".
11. She thinks Mexico is a Caribbean island.


I never knew tomato was a fruit.
I never heard of Boris Johnson.
I don't know what condiments are
I didn't know what peril was.. I forgot what it was though
I didn't know what toilet humour meant.

Not everyone is the same.

[brandstifter]

Originally posted by BigOz
Originally posted by brandstifter

1. She doesn’t know how many days there are in a year.
2. She doesn’t know if a potato’s a vegetable…
3. …and thinks a tomato is one.
4. She thinks London’s a village.
5. She’s never head of Boris Johnson.
6. She doesn’t know what a walrus is.
7. She thinks Belgium is a city.
8. She doesn’t know what condiments are.
9. She doesn't know what the word 'peril' means.
10. She's never heard the phrase "toilet humour".
11. She thinks Mexico is a Caribbean island.


I never knew tomato was a fruit.
I never heard of Boris Johnson.
I don't know what condiments are
I didn't know what peril was.. I forgot what it was though
I didn't know what toilet humour meant.

Not everyone is the same.

You ever considered a career in rocket science? :whistle:

[brandstifter]

“I never heard of Boris Johnson.”

Would that be the Boris Johnson who's the Mayor of London, occasional TV presenter, Tory MP, shadow Education Minister, former editor of the Spectator, frequent topic of controversial headline news and all-round media celebrity? Nope, sorry, never heard of him!



http://www.boris-johnson.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson

:pat:

[~Beachbum~]

to be fair i don't know 8 and 10..
and im supposed to be a grammar student!

[brandstifter]

"I don't know what condiments are."

It means salt and pepper!

:whistle:

[serensilver]

she was a teacher at my brothers school! :spin2:

[sk8tersmum]

Originally posted by David_Purdy
I've supported her all the way through but the last couple of weeks I've noticed a load of things about her... she is fake!

I have been saying that she is fake for weeks now glad someone else is seeing how Fake she is getr her out PLEASE

:mad::mad:

[brandstifter]

Originally posted by sk8tersmum
Originally posted by David_Purdy
I've supported her all the way through but the last couple of weeks I've noticed a load of things about her... she is fake!

I have been saying that she is fake for weeks now glad someone else is seeing how Fake she is getr her out PLEASE

:mad::mad:

Incredibly modest, though. Check her out on imdb or youtube. She's been in quite a few movies, TV dramas and - ugh - adverts, yet you don't hear her boasting about them, unlike Rex and his bloody restaurants or Lisa with her zillion so-called claims to fame.

:angel:

[supernoodles!]

yes but her being modest is all part of the plan

[brandstifter]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
yes but her being modest is all part of the plan

To be honest, I don't think she is fake but it's academic anyway - there's been far too much negative hype about "gameplayers" this series. But it's an, er, game! I wonder if Ronaldo gets criticised for gameplaying during matches or called fake when he tricks defenders into going the wrong way!

:rolleyes:

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by AndyShields
Originally posted by supernoodles!
The things Rachel has been questioning such as is a potato a vegetable,whos boris johnson are all common sense!she KNOWS these things she just being fake and putting on a great bit act!

Other housemates have been cripplingly stupid over the series though.
Rex thought being proud of curves was 'sexual' and has made countless mistakes
Dale made a million and two mistakes about everything
Bex thought Luke was a 'politic' and that Hilary Duff was running for President as well as countless other much more mindless things than the dubious list on Rachel up there
Why is Rachel fake and they aren't?

Well imo Bex was just extremely daft and liked to make herself look daft to amuse the others,Dale,well he was just a bit of a numb skull from time to time and as for Rex i think hes right sometimes being proud of curves CAN come across as sexual.The thing is though Rachel is not stupid,she says these things becuase its all part of her plan bex did it in a way that it was obvious she was playing up the dumb act from time time.I wish i could get my point across better but i hope some of you at least can understand what im trying to get across.I just wish people would see through Rachel,i was nver a fan of her but didn`t particularly dislike her up until about a fortnight ago when i eventually relaised what a great big game shes playing.I went off Rex because of the way he treated Rachel but now im actually glad he spoke to her the way he did becuase it made me notice that Rachel is fake,any normal person would have eventually stood up for themselves or at least made some sort of comment!

[bananarama]

No sara is not a fake. She is like several on this thread a victim of a terrible educational system which qualifies people who should not be qualified.....

Basic knowledge as described by the OP is imperitive and no one should be in further education until they have it........Sorry to say it once more. State of the nation....

I have noticed on other BB series complete dim wits who can't even boil an egg talking about being at university.......When in fact they should not be allowed withing a thousand miles of a university.....

[Shep]

Originally posted by brandstifter
Don't get me wrong - I love Rachel. She's so friendly and so positive and I hope she wins (especially as it'll annoy Luke, Bex, Nicole, Rex and Darnell so much). But come on – I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I hear a trainee teacher reveal that:

1. She doesn’t know how many days there are in a year.
2. She doesn’t know if a potato’s a vegetable…
3. …and thinks a tomato is one.
4. She thinks London’s a village.
5. She’s never head of Boris Johnson.
6. She doesn’t know what a walrus is.
7. She thinks Belgium is a city.
8. She doesn’t know what condiments are.
9. She doesn't know what the word 'peril' means.
10. She's never heard the phrase "toilet humour".
11. She thinks Mexico is a Caribbean island.

Rachel, you’re a great gal but come on – get it sorted! Our children’s futures are in your hands, lol! :whistle:

1) She actually does, she said there were 356 but got the numbers mixed up instea dof 365 and corrected herself afterwards

2) Neither did I, actually (I'm 21 lol)

3) Tomatoe CAN be classified as a vegtable (Source: http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutother/tomato)

4) Never heard her say that

5) Neither have I, untill I looked it up (Mayor of London woop woop!) I live in a rural village called Petherton and Rachel lives in a rural area called Torfean in wales. I think alot of people wouldn't know who he is IF you didn't live in London - can't really laugh at her for that

6) Darnell did an impression of a seal when she asked, so I'm not really going to comment on this one :wink:

7) Never heard her say that one

8) Of course, but one could easily not know what they are if they are told the object in questions alternate name. For example, if people always said Salt/Pepper which is the common word to use instead of condiments, then that's not really a big deal

9) That's actually not true, she said she didn't know what they meant by "At your peril", meaning she didn't know what they meant by the WAY they said it; the context it was used in; what they were going to do if she continues to washup. She was questioning the exact meaning not the actual word, etc

10) Neither did I really, like Rachel I gathered it was some form of dirty humour but again it's really not a big deal

11) No, she said she thought Mexico was in the Carribbean - and in actual fact some parts of Mexico's coast do overlap in the Caribbean sea :tongue:


She has led quite a sheltered life up in the valleys, and when she was acting at the age of 11 she said she didn't really study that much because she was always working.

Most of these gaffes are either misconstrued, misinterperated or exaggerated to make her seem more ditzy than she is.

I would expect alot of people's focus to wade slightly living in that house for 3 months with little to no sense of mental stimulation and boredom for days and days, not to mention the late nights/early rises for people to watch them - the brain is bound to be strained and a little out of touch.

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by Shep
Originally posted by brandstifter
Don't get me wrong - I love Rachel. She's so friendly and so positive and I hope she wins (especially as it'll annoy Luke, Bex, Nicole, Rex and Darnell so much). But come on – I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I hear a trainee teacher reveal that:

1. She doesn’t know how many days there are in a year.
2. She doesn’t know if a potato’s a vegetable…
3. …and thinks a tomato is one.
4. She thinks London’s a village.
5. She’s never head of Boris Johnson.
6. She doesn’t know what a walrus is.
7. She thinks Belgium is a city.
8. She doesn’t know what condiments are.
9. She doesn't know what the word 'peril' means.
10. She's never heard the phrase "toilet humour".
11. She thinks Mexico is a Caribbean island.

Rachel, you’re a great gal but come on – get it sorted! Our children’s futures are in your hands, lol! :whistle:

1) She actually does, she said there were 356 but got the numbers mixed up instea dof 365 and corrected herself afterwards

2) Neither did I, actually (I'm 21 lol)

3) Tomatoe CAN be classified as a vegtable (Source: http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutother/tomato)

4) Never heard her say that

5) Neither have I, untill I looked it up (Mayor of London woop woop!) I live in a rural village called Petherton and Rachel lives in a rural area called Torfean in wales. I think alot of people wouldn't know who he is IF you didn't live in London - can't really laugh at her for that

6) Darnell did an impression of a seal when she asked, so I'm not really going to comment on this one :wink:

7) Never heard her say that one

8) Of course, but one could easily not know what they are if they are told the object in questions alternate name. For example, if people always said Salt/Pepper which is the common word to use instead of condiments, then that's not really a big deal

9) That's actually not true, she said she didn't know what they meant by "At your peril", meaning she didn't know what they meant by the WAY they said it; the context it was used in; what they were going to do if she continues to washup. She was questioning the exact meaning not the actual word, etc

10) Neither did I really, like Rachel I gathered it was some form of dirty humour but again it's really not a big deal

11) No, she said she thought Mexico was in the Carribbean - and in actual fact some parts of Mexico's coast do overlap in the Caribbean sea :tongue:


She has led quite a sheltered life up in the valleys, and when she was acting at the age of 11 she said she didn't really study that much because she was always working.

Most of these gaffes are either misconstrued, misinterperated or exaggerated to make her seem more ditzy than she is.

I would expect alot of people's focus to wade slightly living in that house for 3 months with little to no sense of mental stimulation and boredom for days and days, not to mention the late nights/early rises for people to watch them - the brain is bound to be strained and a little out of touch.

You. Are. Amazing

You are just like the best Rachel fan I have ever seen, I could not have put it any better myself. You are completely right about all of them, I guess people are just looking for a reason to dislike Rachel and not actually see the real facts behind them. You sure put em in there place.

High five :hugesmile:

[Shep]

I'm a digital spy member, what do you expect. :dance2:

[brandstifter]

Reply to Shep:

I don’t agree with everything you said, Shep, but my compliments on such an extensive answer! However…

1) I think you should re-watch it. She mentions a number of different numbers and gets very confused! She doesn’t mention 365 until someone hands it to her on a plate!

2) With all due respect – and you aren’t the first on here to imply this – but why is whether or not you know something a good mark of how well known something is? You assume that if you don’t know it, it must be really obscure. But this may not be the case.

3) What it actually says is:

“…Scientifically speaking, a tomato is definitely a fruit…As far as cooking is concerned, some things which are strictly fruits may be called 'vegetables' because they are used in savoury rather than sweet cooking. The tomato, though technically a fruit, is often used as a vegetable…”

In other words, it’s a fruit but can be eaten like a vegetable and put in a salad, etc. This is not a new idea. After all, this is where the confusion comes from in the first place. Other fruits include cucumbers, aubergines, beans and corn on the cob!

“tomato: noun (pl. tomatoes) a glossy red or yellow edible fruit..." ~ Compact Oxford English Dictionary

4) I have compacted it but that was pretty much the gist. It was hilarious because she didn’t get how the Londoners in the house could walk around the West End and never bump into each other!

5) I vehemently dispute this. I know who George Bush is but I don’t live in America. I know who Mugabe is but I don’t live in Zimbabwe. How do I know? Because I watch the news (Boris Johnson has been barely out of it this year and was already a household name before that). Why do I need to know (after all, I don’t live in London either)? Because people being out of touch with what’s going on in the World is dangerous. That makes it easy for people like the tabloids or the BNP to dupe you into believing whatever they want you to. They pray on our ignorance. It's why, for example, so many Americans think we only invaded Northern Ireland in the last few years (it was over 800 years ago) and end up financing the IRA.

7) It was during the ad-hoc capital cities quiz the housemates did.

8) The word “condiments” is widely used in homes, cafés, restaurants and pubs. It’s an everyday word. Sorry, but it is!

9) She did later ask what the word meant, though.

10) See 2

11) Yeah, it was more the fact that she thought it was an island that tickled me rather than its location. It is mostly by the Gulf of Mexico but just touches the Caribbean in the South-East.

She has indeed led a sheltered life. My contention isn’t that she is ignorant on such a broad-ranging subjects but that she’s ignorant on such a broad-ranging subjects and training to be a primary school teacher. Some people on here have made the point that you don’t have to have much knowledge to be one but that is patently untrue. It always has been but it’s even more so now in these days of NC levels, standardised testing and Ofsted inspections.

:dance2:

[brandstifter]

Gavin:

“You are completely right about all of them.”

See above. Sorry to disappoint you!

“I guess people are just looking for a reason to dislike Rachel.”

Conveniently missed the part in my original post which says “Don't get me wrong - I love Rachel. She's so friendly and so positive and I hope she wins…”, did you, lol?

“…and not actually see the real facts behind them.”

Again, see above!

“You sure put em [sic] in there [sic] place.”

Again, sorry to disappoint you!

:whistle:

[ange7]

Originally posted by Ross
Children don't learn that stuff at school though.

She did the Alphabetic backwards really quick, that's enough.
lol yeah that would come handy :laugh:...if any of the kids she teaches wind up on bb.
I like her too but her childlike enthusiasm ( ie sitting alone talking to her self as she ate dinner the other night) might be masking something deeper. Atleast I hope it is because if that's all there is then ... :shocked:

[ange7]

Originally posted by Shep
I'm a digital spy member, what do you expect. :dance2:
your whole argument seemed to be either... "I never saw that" or " yeah so what I'm just as ignorant" .. why did you bother?:pat:

[fingers]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Shep
I'm a digital spy member, what do you expect. :dance2:
your whole argument seemed to be either... "I never saw that" or " yeah so what I'm just as ignorant" .. why did you bother?:pat:

It amazes me how many forum members will rush into print to say, in effect, "i'm just as ill informed as she is, why is that a bad thing?!

It is a bad thing for a "teacher" to never have heard of Lewis Carroll and/or Alice Through the Looking Glass (Alice in Wonderland). Even Walt Disney knew that!!! lol:whistle:

[jonsep]

whos walt disney?:dog:

[fingers]

Originally posted by jonsep
whos walt disney?:dog:

I rest my case! lol:cheer2:

[jonsep]

Originally posted by fingers
Originally posted by jonsep
whos walt disney?:dog:

I rest my case! lol:cheer2: didnt he make ice :colour:cream

[fingers]

Originally posted by jonsep
Originally posted by fingers
Originally posted by jonsep
whos walt disney?:dog:

I rest my case! lol:cheer2: didnt he make ice :colour:cream

Yes, they called it Wallt's:whistle:

[jonsep]

Originally posted by fingers
Originally posted by jonsep
Originally posted by fingers
Originally posted by jonsep
whos walt disney?:dog:

I rest my case! lol:cheer2: didnt he make ice :colour:cream

Yes, they called it Wallt's:whistle: walts cream,oh thats another story:cheer2:

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by brandstifter
Reply to Shep:

5) I vehemently dispute this. I know who George Bush is but I don’t live in America. I know who Mugabe is but I don’t live in Zimbabwe. How do I know? Because I watch the news (Boris Johnson has been barely out of it this year and was already a household name before that). Why do I need to know (after all, I don’t live in London either)? Because people being out of touch with what’s going on in the World is dangerous. That makes it easy for people like the tabloids or the BNP to dupe you into believing whatever they want you to. They pray on our ignorance. It's why, for example, so many Americans think we only invaded Northern Ireland in the last few years (it was over 800 years ago) and end up financing the IRA.

8) The word “condiments” is widely used in homes, cafés, restaurants and pubs. It’s an everyday word. Sorry, but it is!

:dance2:

I've heard of Tony Blair. I've heard of George Bush. I've never heard of Boris Johnson, if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't.

I never ever use the word condiments, never heard of it before I read the first post, just because you know it, and maybe some other people, doesnt mean everyone else does and uses it everyday, why say condiments when you can just say its name and not confuse people who dont know what it means?

The other points I suppose your right, but I dont think some of them got into the Highlights and I only watch the highlights so I cant exactly defend Rachel if I've never heard her say the other things.

[ange7]

Originally posted by gavinh2008
Originally posted by brandstifter
Reply to Shep:

5) I vehemently dispute this. I know who George Bush is but I don’t live in America. I know who Mugabe is but I don’t live in Zimbabwe. How do I know? Because I watch the news (Boris Johnson has been barely out of it this year and was already a household name before that). Why do I need to know (after all, I don’t live in London either)? Because people being out of touch with what’s going on in the World is dangerous. That makes it easy for people like the tabloids or the BNP to dupe you into believing whatever they want you to. They pray on our ignorance. It's why, for example, so many Americans think we only invaded Northern Ireland in the last few years (it was over 800 years ago) and end up financing the IRA.

8) The word “condiments” is widely used in homes, cafés, restaurants and pubs. It’s an everyday word. Sorry, but it is!

:dance2:

I've heard of Tony Blair. I've heard of George Bush. I've never heard of Boris Johnson, if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't.

I never ever use the word condiments, never heard of it before I read the first post, just because you know it, and maybe some other people, doesnt mean everyone else does and uses it everyday, why say condiments when you can just say its name and not confuse people who dont know what it means?

The other points I suppose your right, but I dont think some of them got into the Highlights and I only watch the highlights so I cant exactly defend Rachel if I've never heard her say the other things.
so when someone asks you if you'd like a condiment what will you answer? ... "stop making me brains hurt!!" ... do you know what a potatoe is ...or what's more commonly know as "CHIPS" or "MASH" :tongue:

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by gavinh2008
Originally posted by brandstifter
Reply to Shep:

5) I vehemently dispute this. I know who George Bush is but I don’t live in America. I know who Mugabe is but I don’t live in Zimbabwe. How do I know? Because I watch the news (Boris Johnson has been barely out of it this year and was already a household name before that). Why do I need to know (after all, I don’t live in London either)? Because people being out of touch with what’s going on in the World is dangerous. That makes it easy for people like the tabloids or the BNP to dupe you into believing whatever they want you to. They pray on our ignorance. It's why, for example, so many Americans think we only invaded Northern Ireland in the last few years (it was over 800 years ago) and end up financing the IRA.

8) The word “condiments” is widely used in homes, cafés, restaurants and pubs. It’s an everyday word. Sorry, but it is!

:dance2:

I've heard of Tony Blair. I've heard of George Bush. I've never heard of Boris Johnson, if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't.

I never ever use the word condiments, never heard of it before I read the first post, just because you know it, and maybe some other people, doesnt mean everyone else does and uses it everyday, why say condiments when you can just say its name and not confuse people who dont know what it means?

The other points I suppose your right, but I dont think some of them got into the Highlights and I only watch the highlights so I cant exactly defend Rachel if I've never heard her say the other things.
so when someone asks you if you'd like a condiment what will you answer? ... "stop making me brains hurt!!" ... do you know what a potatoe is ...or what's more commonly know as "CHIPS" or "MASH" :tongue:

Urgh, I hate mash, well I know what a potato looks like and I would assume its a vegetable since it doesnt look like it would be fruit, and I dont really like chips anyways so I wouldnt ask for it.
I would ask "what are condiments", I've never been taught that word before, and if I have then I dont remember

[jonsep]

skools daze,isnt that a kinky restaraunt in london:wink:

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by brandstifter
Don't get me wrong - I love Rachel. She's so friendly and so positive and I hope she wins (especially as it'll annoy Luke, Bex, Nicole, Rex and Darnell so much). But come on – I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I hear a trainee teacher reveal that:

1. She doesn’t know how many days there are in a year.
2. She doesn’t know if a potato’s a vegetable…
3. …and thinks a tomato is one.
4. She thinks London’s a village.
5. She’s never head of Boris Johnson.
6. She doesn’t know what a walrus is.
7. She thinks Belgium is a city.
8. She doesn’t know what condiments are.
9. She doesn't know what the word 'peril' means.
10. She's never heard the phrase "toilet humour".
11. She thinks Mexico is a Caribbean island.

Rachel, you’re a great gal but come on – get it sorted! Our children’s futures are in your hands, lol! :whistle:


Good for her, Jade Goody made a career of being just as dim without having to be nice either, and Rachel has mastered the art without having to shed any clothes, rather than a fool, I'd say the girl is quite a genius:wink:

[brandstifter]

“I've heard of Tony Blair. I've heard of George Bush. I've never heard of Boris Johnson, if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't.”

I'm sorry, but he has. And you stilll haven't heard of him!

By the way, I should clarify that I'm not a fan of Boris Johnson (the Mayor of London, Shadow Home Secretary, Tory MP, newspaper editor and TV presenter who’s rarely out of the national headlines, who’s never “done anything important” and of whom I’ve never heard). I just find it bizarre, cringeworthy and a little scary that one or two of you have never heard of him. As I’ve said before, by admitting that, you’ve revealed unambiguously that you never watch the news or read a newspaper and by not knowing what’s going on, you’re allowing these politicians to con you and get away with murder (literally sometimes!).

:shrug:

[jonsep]

:cheer2:Originally posted by brandstifter
“I've heard of Tony Blair. I've heard of George Bush. I've never heard of Boris Johnson, if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't.”

I'm sorry, but he has. And you haven’t!

By the way, I should clarify that I'm not a fan of Boris Johnson (the Mayor of London, Shadow Home Secretary, Tory MP, newspaper editor and TV presenter who’s rarely out of the national headlines, who’s never “done anything important” and of whom I’ve never heard). I just find it bizarre, cringeworthy and a little scary that one or two of you have never heard of him. As I’ve said before, by admitting that, you’ve revealed unambiguously that you never watch the news or read a newspaper and by not knowing what’s going on, you’re allowing these politicians to con you and get away with murder (literally sometimes!).
:shrug: :cheer2:

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by brandstifter
“I've heard of Tony Blair. I've heard of George Bush. I've never heard of Boris Johnson, if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't.”

I'm sorry, but he has. And you haven’t!

:shrug:

Why the personal attack? Just because I dont know what he has done doesnt mean I havent done anything important. I'm sorry but if you really did like Rachel you wouldnt be stooping to this level and really trying to make Rachel a fake bad person. Say all you want, if you were a fan you wouldnt act like this, and thats my opinion.
Politics dont take my fancy, so I dont pay attention to that part of the news.

[brandstifter]

When somebody asks me whether I want condiments, as they often do when I eat in a restaurant or pub, I usually reply “Yes please”. Maybe it’s just me but I’ve never found that particularly complicated!

:whistle:

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by brandstifter
When somebody asks me whether I want condiments, as they often do when I eat in a restaurant or pub, I usually reply “Yes please”. Maybe it’s just me but I’ve never found that particularly complicated!

:whistle:

Well I live in Newcastle, in restaurants the "condiments" are already on the table

[brandstifter]

Originally posted by gavinh2008
Originally posted by brandstifter
“I've heard of Tony Blair. I've heard of George Bush. I've never heard of Boris Johnson, if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't.”

I'm sorry, but he has. And you haven’t!

:shrug:

Why the personal attack? Just because I dont know what he has done doesnt mean I havent done anything important. I'm sorry but if you really did like Rachel you wouldnt be stooping to this level and really trying to make Rachel a fake bad person. Say all you want, if you were a fan you wouldnt act like this, and thats my opinion.

"I'm sorry, but he has. And you haven't!" is a personal attack? My word, you're more sensitive than Kat! All I've done is to state two facts. Boris Johnson IS extremely well known and you HAVEN’T heard of him (as you said yourself).

And a fan is not allowed to criticise the people they admire? Should we just follow them blindly and assume they're perfect? Just wondering.

:whistle:

[brandstifter]

"Politics dont take my fancy, so I dont pay attention to that part of the news."

Politics affect every aspect of your life. Good luck with voting. But don't complain to me when it all goes tits up!

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by brandstifter
Originally posted by gavinh2008
Originally posted by brandstifter
“I've heard of Tony Blair. I've heard of George Bush. I've never heard of Boris Johnson, if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't.”

I'm sorry, but he has. And you haven’t!

:shrug:

Why the personal attack? Just because I dont know what he has done doesnt mean I havent done anything important. I'm sorry but if you really did like Rachel you wouldnt be stooping to this level and really trying to make Rachel a fake bad person. Say all you want, if you were a fan you wouldnt act like this, and thats my opinion.

"I'm sorry, but he has. And you haven't!" is a personal attack? My word, you're more sensitive than Kat! All I've done is to state two facts. Boris Johnson IS extremely well known and you HAVEN’T heard of him (as you said yourself).

And a fan is not allowed to criticise the people they admire? Should we just follow them blindly and assume they're perfect? Just wondering.

:whistle:

It is a personal attack, you said he's done something important and I havent. You dont know me, its not that I'm sensitive but when people go too far then I will defend myself. I'm not dumb, don't lie, saying he's done something important and I havent is a personal attack.

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by brandstifter
"Politics dont take my fancy, so I dont pay attention to that part of the news."

Politics affect every aspect of your life. Good luck with voting. But don't complain to me when it all goes tits up!

I'll just vote for the person I've heard of, or ask a friend who they're voting for and I'll do the same, i dont know

[brandstifter]

"It is a personal attack, you said he's done something important and I havent."

WHAAAAAAAAT????

I meant you'd never heard of him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

I'm sure you've done lots of important things and I meant no disrespect - you've just misunderstood the sentence!

I've edited it now if it makes you happy.

:conf:

[brandstifter]

"I'll just vote for the person I've heard of, or ask a friend who they're voting for and I'll do the same, i dont know"

Lol, good luck with that! :whistle:

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by brandstifter
"It is a personal attack, you said he's done something important and I havent."

WHAAAAAAAAT????

I meant you'd never heard of him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

I'm sure you've done lots of important things and I meant no disrespect - you've just misunderstood the sentence!

:conf:

"I'm sorry he has. And you havent!"

Yeah that sounds like "you've never heard of him, but he has?" You know what you meant, dont try and change it

[AngRemembered]

I once sat in a restraunt and a friend asked the waitress if she'd send the condiments back to the kitchen.

A few minutes later the chef came out to thank us for the compliments asking if there was anything in particular that impressed us, I said its certainly not the staffs ability to understand WTF we actually said:laugh:

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by Angiebabe
I once sat in a restraunt and a friend asked the waitress if she'd send the condiments back to the kitchen.

A few minutes later the chef came out to thank us for the compliments asking if there was anything in particular that impressed us, I said its certainly not the staffs ability to understand WTF we actually said:laugh:

haha, I would have thought condiments meant compliment cos they sound the same

[brandstifter]

Gavin:

“It is a personal attack...You know what you meant, don't try and change it”

Yes, I do know what I meant. It’s a standard piece of English to respond to two points made with two respective counterpoints. Ask any expert on language. Frankly, though, it’s pretty common and straightforward English.

For instance, if you said “If John invites you to his party, will you go?”, I might reply “Well, he hasn’t, so I'm not”.

If anything, for you to continue accusing me after I’ve clarified matters and edited for you out of courtesy, AND to imply that I'm a liar, now that IS a personal attack! But I won’t take it to heart!

By the way, I'm struggling to understand why, if I’d wanted to “attack” you, I’d have edited it at all!

:shrug:

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by brandstifter
“You know what you meant, dont try and change it”

Yes, I do know what I meant. It’s a standard piece of English to respond to two points made with two respective counterpoints. Ask any expert on language. Frankly, though, it’s pretty common and straightforward English.

For instance, if you said “If John invites you to his party, will you go?”, I might reply “Well, he hasn’t, so I'm not”.

If anything, for you to continue accusing me after I’ve clarified matters and edited for you out of courtesy, AND to imply that I'm a liar, now that IS a personal attack! But I won’t take it to heart!

By the way, I'm struggling to understand why, if I’d wanted to “attack” you, I’d have edited it at all!

:shrug:

Okay, let me make this clear.

I said:

"He hasnt done anything important"

You said:

"Yes he has, you havent"

I replied:

"Why the personal attack?"

You replied:

"It wasnt"

And you're trying to change it, I'm failing to see where your going with your point, but I'll drop it since it's going nowhere.

[brandstifter]

“Okay, let me make this clear. I said: ‘He hasnt done anything important’ …"

And you're trying to change it, I'm failing to see where your going with your point, but I'll drop it since it's going nowhere.”

OK, let ME make this clear:

Now who’s “trying to change it”? You said - and I quote - "if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't." Those were your exact words, NOT "He hasnt done anything important". So I was answering YOUR second point with MY second point. Sorry, but that’s very basic English.

I reiterate: if I’d wanted to offend you, I wouldn’t have changed it when you informed me that you didn’t like it. Would I? But instead of thanking me for being courteous and considerate, you’re still attacking me, wrongly accusing me, misquoting me AND calling me a liar. Believe me, if I wanted to insult you, you’d know. But I don’t.

Now I'm going to ask politely – please leave me alone now.

Goodbye

:xyxwave:

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by brandstifter
“Okay, let me make this clear. I said: ‘He hasnt done anything important’…

And you're trying to change it, I'm failing to see where your going with your point, but I'll drop it since it's going nowhere.”

OK, let ME make this clear:

Now who’s “trying to change it”? You said - and I quote - "if he's done anything that important I'm sure I would know, but I don't." Those were your exact words, NOT "He hasnt done anything important". So I was answering YOUR second point with MY second point. Sorry, but that’s very basic English.

I reiterate: if I’d wanted to offend you, I wouldn’t have changed it when you informed me that you didn’t like it. Would I? But instead of thanking me for being courteous and considerate, you’re still attacking me, wrongly accusing me, misquoting me AND calling me a liar. Believe me, if I wanted to insult you, you’d know. But I don’t.

Now I'm going to ask politely – please leave me alone or I’ll report you.

Goodbye

:xyxwave:

Okay, now your the sensitive one

Why did you phrase it "I'm sorry but he has, you haven't" if you were answering my second point, which was that I've never heard of him?

[brandstifter]

<gavinh2008 has been set to IGNORE for persistent harassment, bullying and slander>

[Lauren]

Back on topic, folks

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by brandstifter
< gavinh2008 has been placed on my IGNORE list for continuous harassment. >

Oh my god, you are unbelievable, the only reason you have nothing to say is because your clamped. I did say we should drop it before hand and you continued it, you've already been reported sweetheart, and ignored.

[brandstifter]

Originally posted by Lauren
Back on topic, folks

OK. RACHEL TO WIN. YAYYY! :lovedup:

[gavinh2008]

Go Rachel, I've already voted 5 times, I plan on voting more

[brandstifter]

I noticed on the graphology piece on BBLB tonight that she's no great speller either. And the ability to spell IS an essential skill for a primary school teacher!

:shrug: