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jcdub
04-09-2008, 01:22 PM
No, I'm serious. Ish.

We've seen so much campaigning as of late, mindless cries of "x to win!" and "get r out!" that I think the art of convincing others to agree with you is a lost one. Your votes, no matter how numerous, can only go so far, so consider this your chance to extend your sphere of influence to that of THE ENTIRE INTERNET. As a sign of good faith, I shall disable my propaganda-laiden signature within this thread.

Naturally, I shall begin.

I believe that each and every one of you should vote for Darnell to win big brother for a variety of reasons. He's provided drama and entertainment throughout, standing up to be counted during spit-gate and the head of house elections, where his words still ring true to this day - he has made mistakes because unlike others in there, he hasn't held back. He is without doubt the most genuine; his every flaw, his insecurity and paranoia, has been there for all to see, and yet at the same time it is clear that when he is not struggling to come to terms with the experience and his perception of himself, he is a genuinely nice guy. When he has a smile on his face, so does everyone else. He's been in a lot of arguments but never for the sake of it or merely for effect; he stands up for what he believes is right, a commendable trait even if you disagree with his views. He is the same guy he was when he walked in but we have learned a lot about him and it seems he has learned a lot about himself. He's talented and is driven by a desire for acceptance, not the need to enhance his financial position. He has thrown himself straight into every single task and made as much as he possibly can of the experience without pussyfooting around and compromising his beliefs so that he comes across better. Admittedly, he voted strategicaly at times and has openly acknowledged his desire to win..but nobody can deny he's been honest the whole way through. He stepped across the line with Sara; neither of them were blameless in that saga but the fact that she herself remains close to him shows that sara fans should respect her opinions and do the same. I know the odds suggest that he has little to no chance of winning the final but in all honesty I think he does; the fanbase that made him favourite at the half-way stage is in large parts undisturbed, and may indeed expand as the final week goes on and the flaws of others are exposed.

Those are my opinions through which, I believe, the ENTIRE INTERNET should see why Darnell is the most deserving winner of Big Brother 2008.

However, if both Rex and Darnell go, I will likely still vote a couple of times on the final two or three. So go on...on top of everything else, convince me as to why Sara, Rachel and Mikey deserve mine, and everyone else's, vote.

:dance:

30stone
04-09-2008, 01:35 PM
Well as im too lazy to say everything.

I think darnell has had his good points but has many more bad point.

Sara is my favourite

As She is a genuinely nice girl, quite like some of my firends really flirty but knows when its to far.
I sort of relate to some thins she does.
Shes tried to be nice to everyone and eveyone has rejected her and tactically voted for her and shes stayed happy.

She tried on all her tasks and done very well, Tried to be Fair with all housemates, not jumping to conclusions like darnell not going mad and shouting and swearing over little things.

And shes trying not to argue with people since she likes everyone in there.

Shes Probably had the most fun of just letting go.
Especially while drunk.

and since im lazy just look at videos of sara on youtube i think the hate for her is for terrible reasons.

jonsep
04-09-2008, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by jcdub
No, I'm serious. Ish.

We've seen so much campaigning as of late, mindless cries of "x to win!" and "get r out!" that I think the art of convincing others to agree with you is a lost one. Your votes, no matter how numerous, can only go so far, so consider this your chance to extend your sphere of influence to that of THE ENTIRE INTERNET. As a sign of good faith, I shall disable my propaganda-laiden signature within this thread.

Naturally, I shall begin.

I believe that each and every one of you should vote for Darnell to win big brother for a variety of reasons. He's provided drama and entertainment throughout, standing up to be counted during spit-gate and the head of house elections, where his words still ring true to this day - he has made mistakes because unlike others in there, he hasn't held back. He is without doubt the most genuine; his every flaw, his insecurity and paranoia, has been there for all to see, and yet at the same time it is clear that when he is not struggling to come to terms with the experience and his perception of himself, he is a genuinely nice guy. When he has a smile on his face, so does everyone else. He's been in a lot of arguments but never for the sake of it or merely for effect; he stands up for what he believes is right, a commendable trait even if you disagree with his views. He is the same guy he was when he walked in but we have learned a lot about him and it seems he has learned a lot about himself. He's talented and is driven by a desire for acceptance, not the need to enhance his financial position. He has thrown himself straight into every single task and made as much as he possibly can of the experience without pussyfooting around and compromising his beliefs so that he comes across better. Admittedly, he voted strategicaly at times and has openly acknowledged his desire to win..but nobody can deny he's been honest the whole way through. He stepped across the line with Sara; neither of them were blameless in that saga but the fact that she herself remains close to him shows that sara fans should respect her opinions and do the same. I know the odds suggest that he has little to no chance of winning the final but in all honesty I think he does; the fanbase that made him favourite at the half-way stage is in large parts undisturbed, and may indeed expand as the final week goes on and the flaws of others are exposed.

Those are my opinions through which, I believe, the ENTIRE INTERNET should see why Darnell is the most deserving winner of Big Brother 2008.

However, if both Rex and Darnell go, I will likely still vote a couple of times on the final two or three. So go on...on top of everything else, convince me as to why Sara, Rachel and Mikey deserve mine, and everyone else's, vote.

:dance: :thumbs:

bananarama
04-09-2008, 01:40 PM
That is your "Perception" of Darnell. My "Perception" is exactly the opposite......No point listing why as we would go on for ever contradicting each other....:laugh:


With regard to your potential scenario of having to choose between Sara , Mikey and Rachel......

For different reasons I admire all three.....On balance I would favour Sara to win as I have percieved her to be more entertaining according to my taste plus the simple fact she is female and I am red blooded male....:bigsmile:

Rachel is a nice attractive lass but not as entertaining as Sara.

Mikey can be quite entertaing in an accidental sort of way but his personality is a bit off putting...I would also like a sightless person like Mikey to have the advantage of some cash behind him.......which could help him in his lifes struggles and his disability..

So like I said on personality balance I would want sara to win.........On a charity balance Mikey to win......Rachel lovely girl but she comes third on my list...

ShelleySkruFayce
04-09-2008, 01:45 PM
rex or darnell or sara to win..



out of the 5 left, these are the ones who have been entertaining.. the only entertaining thing about rachel was her VT and the only entertaining thing about Mikey is when he got hit by that ball...



i love a good debate.. but not when it comes to reality TV.. but if anyone fancies a banter over the problems in the middle east just give me a shout hahahahha

Marc
04-09-2008, 01:55 PM
I really don't see Darnell as deserving of the prize in all fairness! each to their own about every housemate, infact I wanted Lisa to win and well she didn't do much - I just liked her character. I think if we're talking about who deserves to win as a result of the 13 weeks of BB then we're talking about Rex or Mikey, but because people don't look at who's been more entertaining (bex,luke,sylvia,mario,steph all been evicted early) and instead vote for the person they think is nicest or want to be their friend - we are going to end up with a rachel or sara win and thats stupid

cliffsbananas
04-09-2008, 02:22 PM
Sara should win as unlike the others she has no hidden agenda.

Rex bought himself into the series through family connections ,the idea that bullying girls is entertainment does not wash.

Darnell is probably the biggest con ,he is utterly pathetic and desperate.

Rachel ,well it has to be an act.

Mikey ,obscene jokes ,disgusting hygene habits.

Emzy-!!
04-09-2008, 02:31 PM
I don't agree with you about Darnell being the same person all the way through. I think he has changed aloot since the beggining. At the start he was sweet and I'm pretty sure everyone I knew loved him, but now he has changed to this miserable, insecure, anger troubled guy. so has Big brother changed him or was he playing a game in the beginning??

On the other hand, I think Rex should win. He deserves it because he has been consistent throught BB and although I have changed my mind about him after every show, I am now certain I want him to win.!!!

bananarama
04-09-2008, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Emzy-!!
I don't agree with you about Darnell being the same person all the way through. I think he has changed aloot since the beggining. At the start he was sweet and I'm pretty sure everyone I knew loved him, but now he has changed to this miserable, insecure, anger troubled guy. so has Big brother changed him or was he playing a game in the beginning??

On the other hand, I think Rex should win. He deserves it because he has been consistent throught BB and although I have changed my mind about him after every show, I am now certain I want him to win.!!!

Darnell has been consistent all through the show. A pain in the backside from start to finish.......

I agree Rex has been consistent in his erratic rude and arrogant S**t stirring bullying behavour.

However a man of money given even more money to spend on Nicole or a similar female he can buy and control fills me with horror and would be the most wrong and idiotic scenerio to allow to happen.........

Indierock&roll
04-09-2008, 04:44 PM
I THINK
that everyone should NOT vote for rachel because.. she hasnt done anything thats particulary made good entertainment. she has been nice, yes but not entertaining in any way.. shes done been stuck to kathreya, called mikey "mikey wikey" what is she thinking?! and washed dishes and ran. in the bb9 best bits there will be nothing worth putting in to do with her.. the fact she loves grapes? oh how wonderful seriously we need to vote a winner who actually desveres it!