Religion?

[Indierock&roll]

This is my opinion of religions in general..
like many people have there religion and some follow their religion more than others but for me i just dont see it as anything really.. when i was born i was just automatically christian .. but growing older i just wish i wasnt in any religion because tbh i dont see the point?
for me i dont really know any religous people anyway but i said this to my mum the other day about that i dont really believe anything in christianity that much and she was like thats terrible your christian.. but its stupid.. i didnt choose to become a christian? :rolleyes:

whats everyones views of religion?

[Annie]

I think its important to people who have been raised their whole life following a religion but like yourself a lot of people are just born into a religion like christianity and dont do anything "christian like" e.g. go to church or pray etc.

I think following a faith is dying out these days with everything else going on in the world, 50/60 years ago if you had said that to your mum it would have been different but times move on.

I think a lot of people across the world follow their religion to the book but its not seen as often now.

[Sticks]

It does have benefits (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7302609.stm)



A belief in God could lead to a more contented life, research suggests.

Religious people are better able to cope with shocks such as losing a job or divorce, claims the study presented to a Royal Economic Society conference.

Data from thousands of Europeans revealed higher levels of "life satisfaction" in believers.

However, researcher Professor Andrew Clark said other aspects of a religious upbringing unrelated to belief may influence future happiness.

[Hugo]

Originally posted by Sticks
It does have benefits (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7302609.stm)


[quote]
A belief in God could lead to a more contented life, research suggests.

Religious people are better able to cope with shocks such as losing a job or divorce, claims the study presented to a Royal Economic Society conference.

Data from thousands of Europeans revealed higher levels of "life satisfaction" in believers.

However, researcher Professor Andrew Clark said other aspects of a religious upbringing unrelated to belief may influence future happiness.
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That idea only came about when the COE was almost dieing after evolution was virtually confirmed.

[Tom]

I hate it when non-religious people try and tell religious people there is no God etc, and I hate it when religious people try to preach and convert non-religious people. People have their own beliefs for what ever reason, just let them get on with it!

[Fom]

In all fairness Tom, its in serious debates. We are debating which side of the story is real.

[Tom]

... the main problem with you're argument being I'm on about in real life not on here :wink:

But then again on here when people state their opinion as a fact, I find that quite annoying and signs of a poor argument.

[Sticks]

I am a Christian and part of my religion is to share it with others.

Nobody is obligated to accept the message, and many walk away. Studies have shown that those with a religious faith are the better for it.

Also if you look at the great philanthropists from the 19th century, they were motivated by their faith.

Conversely, Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, was adopted by atheistic regimes, and applied what is called Social Darwinianism and we ended up with atrocities like Belsan, Daccau and Auschwitz.

[ange7]

A lot of nasty stuff has been done in the name of religion....
the Inquisition
the Crusades
9/11
many millions have died for nothing..all in the name of religion....far far more than any "atheistic regimes". ... oh and as for German Concentration camps... the Vatican backed the Nazi Party in WW2 .. nazis WERE NOT an atheistic regime.... they traded off their ties with the catholic church. This isn't a hidden secret ... the Vatican as apologised for this many times under John Paul II.

Just so everyone knows...anti discrimination laws cover atheists too!!!! hehe yep!

Religious discriminations laws don't just cover religious freedom but also the freedom to NOT believe... so it's against the law to incite hate against atheist based solely on their atheism. Eg ( and NOT singling out any TIBB members hehe) claiming atheism caused the Holocaust (the murdering of 6 million jew/gypsy/blacks/salvs/handicapped/gays and leftwingers in concentration camps) IS!!!! a form of religious hate and so is against the law. Also knowingly publishing it in the papers, on the t.v OR IN A FORUM is against the law too.(hi admin!! yes that means you!!):spin2:

oh and for the record I'm Greek Orthodox Christian

[Fom]

I just dont get why people think if we dont read a book and believe in a god we have no morals? If we dont have a religion we are clearly going to trash the world and murder people because god hasnt taught us the way.
I dont need a god to tell me whats right and whats wrong its common sense!

[Firewire]

I am a protestant and I don't really care what I am really.

I would happily talk to anyone of ay religion.

I believe in Jesus & God but do not go to church.

[Novo]

Originally posted by Firewire
I am a protestant and I don't really care what I am really.

I would happily talk to anyone of ay religion.

I believe in Jesus & God but do not go to church.

same

[Tom4784]

I had a christening and everything but I wouldn't say i'm a christian. I did become a budhist for about a month once though!

I think that there could be somnething more beyond life but we'll never know for sure so there's no point in worrying about religion and stuff until you're gone.

So basically I think religion could be true but I don't take either side since we'll never know for certain which side is true until we're dead.

[NettoSuperstar!]

i think Religious faiths were mans way of explaining the world and finding meaning in it, this has been taken over by science, but science cant answer everything. Its human nature to want to find meaning. Religion gives meaning to a lot of peoples lives and if their faith is strong then I cant knock them for having it. though a lot of shite has gone on in the name of religion and I dont think Jesus would like it!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Fom
I just dont get why people think if we dont read a book and believe in a god we have no morals? If we dont have a religion we are clearly going to trash the world and murder people because god hasnt taught us the way.
I dont need a god to tell me whats right and whats wrong its common sense!

how did moral values come to be common sense to most people though? Is it inherent in people to be good or does that come from society? If it comes from society then I would say Religion has probably played a large part in moral/cultural values. whether your aware of it or not

[NettoSuperstar!]

Although I do think it makes sense from an evolutionary perspective to have moral codes and look after your social group aswell

[ange7]

Originally posted by bbE
Originally posted by Fom
I just dont get why people think if we dont read a book and believe in a god we have no morals? If we dont have a religion we are clearly going to trash the world and murder people because god hasnt taught us the way.
I dont need a god to tell me whats right and whats wrong its common sense!

how did moral values come to be common sense to most people though? Is it inherent in people to be good or does that come from society? If it comes from society then I would say Religion has probably played a large part in moral/cultural values. whether your aware of it or not
yeah bbe I think by "common sense" Fom means "moral compass". Whether you think your a Christian or not, growing up in a morally Christian nation, albeit a secular one, will have an effect on your "common sense". Christianity is built into the fabric of society. I think this is different from "believing" and I agree with Fom that someone can be moral and know right from wrong with out being a Christian or religious. But Fom you might be kidding yourself if you think your "common sense" wasn't moulded indirectly by christian principles via society .. a society which is still in many ways culturally and morally Christian. ...
na wha I mean?:tongue:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by bbE
Originally posted by Fom
I just dont get why people think if we dont read a book and believe in a god we have no morals? If we dont have a religion we are clearly going to trash the world and murder people because god hasnt taught us the way.
I dont need a god to tell me whats right and whats wrong its common sense!

how did moral values come to be common sense to most people though? Is it inherent in people to be good or does that come from society? If it comes from society then I would say Religion has probably played a large part in moral/cultural values. whether your aware of it or not
yeah bbe I think by "common sense" Fom means "moral compass". Whether you think your a Christian or not, growing up in a morally Christian nation, albeit a secular one, will have an effect on your "common sense". Christianity is built into the fabric of society. I think this is different from "believing" and I agree with Fom that someone can be moral and know right from wrong with out being a Christian or religious. But Fom you might be kidding yourself if you think your "common sense" wasn't moulded indirectly by christian principles via society .. a society which is still in many ways culturally and morally Christian. ...
na wha I mean?:tongue:

yah thats whatta mean man

[ange7]

yeah yeah I agree with you:spin2:
oops forgot to add that at the start

[andyman]

Originally posted by ange7
A lot of nasty stuff has been done in the name of religion....
the Inquisition
the Crusades
9/11
many millions have died for nothing..all in the name of religion....far far more than any "atheistic regimes". ... oh and as for German Concentration camps... the Vatican backed the Nazi Party in WW2 .. nazis WERE NOT an atheistic regime.... they traded off their ties with the catholic church. This isn't a hidden secret ... the Vatican as apologised for this many times under John Paul II.

Just so everyone knows...anti discrimination laws cover atheists too!!!! hehe yep!

Religious discriminations laws don't just cover religious freedom but also the freedom to NOT believe... so it's against the law to incite hate against atheist based solely on their atheism. Eg ( and NOT singling out any TIBB members hehe) claiming atheism caused the Holocaust (the murdering of 6 million jew/gypsy/blacks/salvs/handicapped/gays and leftwingers in concentration camps) IS!!!! a form of religious hate and so is against the law. Also knowingly publishing it in the papers, on the t.v OR IN A FORUM is against the law too.(hi admin!! yes that means you!!):spin2:

oh and for the record I'm Greek Orthodox Christian ahhh the eastern empire church, i should have known..:bigsmile:

[MrGaryy]

I was brought up to be Catholic and went to Catholic schools but I would consider myself to be agnostic. If I were to follow a religon I think I might convert to be a protestant though, it just makes more sense to me. I've received 4 sacraments and might pray if I was feeling terrible but I don't believe in an after-life.

A girl came up to me after religon class and said to me "God's gonna send you to hell now because you said you don't believe in him" and I replyed, "If you believe in a God that sends people TO HELL just because they dare question him, is that really something you want to go around telling people?".

I have no problem with people of a faith and although some religions make no sense to me, it's each and every person's prerogative to do so.

[ange7]

Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by ange7
A lot of nasty stuff has been done in the name of religion....
the Inquisition
the Crusades
9/11
many millions have died for nothing..all in the name of religion....far far more than any "atheistic regimes". ... oh and as for German Concentration camps... the Vatican backed the Nazi Party in WW2 .. nazis WERE NOT an atheistic regime.... they traded off their ties with the catholic church. This isn't a hidden secret ... the Vatican as apologised for this many times under John Paul II.

Just so everyone knows...anti discrimination laws cover atheists too!!!! hehe yep!

Religious discriminations laws don't just cover religious freedom but also the freedom to NOT believe... so it's against the law to incite hate against atheist based solely on their atheism. Eg ( and NOT singling out any TIBB members hehe) claiming atheism caused the Holocaust (the murdering of 6 million jew/gypsy/blacks/salvs/handicapped/gays and leftwingers in concentration camps) IS!!!! a form of religious hate and so is against the law. Also knowingly publishing it in the papers, on the t.v OR IN A FORUM is against the law too.(hi admin!! yes that means you!!):spin2:

oh and for the record I'm Greek Orthodox Christian ahhh the eastern empire church, i should have known..:bigsmile:

should have known what? ... what does a shut in like you know about my religion ... lol by your own admission your afraid to leave your own home hehe ...
Your the one that think Muslims are conspiring to take over the world and that we all need to "fight back" before it's too late. mahahaha ...back on your meds sweet heart:pat:

[andyman]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by ange7
A lot of nasty stuff has been done in the name of religion....
the Inquisition
the Crusades
9/11
many millions have died for nothing..all in the name of religion....far far more than any "atheistic regimes". ... oh and as for German Concentration camps... the Vatican backed the Nazi Party in WW2 .. nazis WERE NOT an atheistic regime.... they traded off their ties with the catholic church. This isn't a hidden secret ... the Vatican as apologised for this many times under John Paul II.

Just so everyone knows...anti discrimination laws cover atheists too!!!! hehe yep!

Religious discriminations laws don't just cover religious freedom but also the freedom to NOT believe... so it's against the law to incite hate against atheist based solely on their atheism. Eg ( and NOT singling out any TIBB members hehe) claiming atheism caused the Holocaust (the murdering of 6 million jew/gypsy/blacks/salvs/handicapped/gays and leftwingers in concentration camps) IS!!!! a form of religious hate and so is against the law. Also knowingly publishing it in the papers, on the t.v OR IN A FORUM is against the law too.(hi admin!! yes that means you!!):spin2:

oh and for the record I'm Greek Orthodox Christian ahhh the eastern empire church, i should have known..:bigsmile:

should have known what? ... what does a shut in like you know about my religion ... lol by your own admission your afraid to leave your own home hehe ...
Your the one that think Muslims are conspiring to take over the world and that we all need to "fight back" before it's too late. mahahaha ...back on your meds sweet heart:pat: ok... I take it your I.Q is very low to reply with that post.
Plus you don't know me so it was very childish and foulish to write "what does a shut in like you know about my religion" that was a silly thing to write. You bring shame to "your" religion and to yourself which i pitty, maybe you have lost your faith and have much anger within.. Hey be good!:bigsmile:

[Tom]

Originally posted by Fom
I just dont get why people think if we dont read a book and believe in a god we have no morals? If we dont have a religion we are clearly going to trash the world and murder people because god hasnt taught us the way.
I dont need a god to tell me whats right and whats wrong its common sense!

Where do you think laws come from? If we had no laws then we wouldn't know whats right and wrong. Thats quite evident in other religions where they find it acceptable to kill other people depending on the circumstances. To say we just know whats right and wrong is ridiculous. If there was no law about shoplifting, would people think its wrong?

[ange7]

Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by ange7
A lot of nasty stuff has been done in the name of religion....
the Inquisition
the Crusades
9/11
many millions have died for nothing..all in the name of religion....far far more than any "atheistic regimes". ... oh and as for German Concentration camps... the Vatican backed the Nazi Party in WW2 .. nazis WERE NOT an atheistic regime.... they traded off their ties with the catholic church. This isn't a hidden secret ... the Vatican as apologised for this many times under John Paul II.

Just so everyone knows...anti discrimination laws cover atheists too!!!! hehe yep!

Religious discriminations laws don't just cover religious freedom but also the freedom to NOT believe... so it's against the law to incite hate against atheist based solely on their atheism. Eg ( and NOT singling out any TIBB members hehe) claiming atheism caused the Holocaust (the murdering of 6 million jew/gypsy/blacks/salvs/handicapped/gays and leftwingers in concentration camps) IS!!!! a form of religious hate and so is against the law. Also knowingly publishing it in the papers, on the t.v OR IN A FORUM is against the law too.(hi admin!! yes that means you!!):spin2:

oh and for the record I'm Greek Orthodox Christian ahhh the eastern empire church, i should have known..:bigsmile:

should have known what? ... what does a shut in like you know about my religion ... lol by your own admission your afraid to leave your own home hehe ...
Your the one that think Muslims are conspiring to take over the world and that we all need to "fight back" before it's too late. mahahaha ...back on your meds sweet heart:pat: ok... I take it your I.Q is very low to reply with that post.
Plus you don't know me so it was very childish and foulish to write "what does a shut in like you know about my religion" that was a silly thing to write. You bring shame to "your" religion and to yourself which i pitty, maybe you have lost your faith and have much anger within.. Hey be good!:bigsmile:
blah blah your IQ is very low blah blah
all you do is preach religious hate .... this time you want to take shots at my chruch? ... lol but I ought to be ashamed?!

YOU said YOU were a shut in ... but I should be ashamed?!

You really are a bore...zzzzzz

question remains ... so stop slithering around..
rub those IQ points you keep banging on about and show us what you've got.
To repeat the question
"ahhh the eastern empire church, i should have known..:bigsmile:"
This is very offensive....what did you mean by that? Answer it or creep back into your hole

[bananarama]

Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

[Tom]

Originally posted by bananarama
Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

Thats a very stereotypical/generalist view. More people than you think are religious who you wouldn't even guess.

[Spike]

Originally posted by bananarama
Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

100% agree

[Tom]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by bananarama
Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

100% agree

Then clearly you have no idea about the types of people who are religious. Only extremists are how bananarama explains, yet its an accepted view of all religious people? I know a hell of a lot of people who are religious yet by looking at them or being around them you'd never guess they were because they don't preach and don't come across as brainwashed. Religion is a lot broader and has a lot more types of people than people realise

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by bananarama
Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

100% agree

Then clearly you have no idea about the types of people who are religious. Only extremists are how bananarama explains, yet its an accepted view of all religious people? I know a hell of a lot of people who are religious yet by looking at them or being around them you'd never guess they were because they don't preach and don't come across as brainwashed. Religion is a lot broader and has a lot more types of people than people realise


It's nothing to do with what types of people are religious its about how people become religious....Religion in the main is educated brainwashed endoctrenated all depending on the extremity of the tutors.....From religious societies or institutions or simply faith addicted parents....Either way the minds of children are abused by taking advantage of their gullability in believeing in what elders tell them....

Religion should be "X" rated like porn......Children should not be allowed near it until they are old enough to have free minds and free choices to be able to accept or reject such a complex and controversial adult subject...

[Tom]

Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by bananarama
Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

100% agree

Then clearly you have no idea about the types of people who are religious. Only extremists are how bananarama explains, yet its an accepted view of all religious people? I know a hell of a lot of people who are religious yet by looking at them or being around them you'd never guess they were because they don't preach and don't come across as brainwashed. Religion is a lot broader and has a lot more types of people than people realise


It's nothing to do with what types of people are religious its about how people become religious....Religion in the main is educated brainwashed endoctrenated all depending on the extremity of the tutors.....From religious societies or institutions or simply faith addicted parents....Either way the minds of children are abused by taking advantage of their gullability in believeing in what elders tell them....

Religion should be "X" rated like porn......Children should not be allowed near it until they are old enough to have free minds and free choices to be able to accept or reject such a complex and controversial adult subject...

Rubbish. Theres a difference between talking and brainwashing. Children are told about religions, its then up to them what decision they make. They don't have to be religious if they don't want to be. Children naturally question things, its nowhere near as black and white as you're trying to make out.

[hannah.]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by bananarama
Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

100% agree

Then clearly you have no idea about the types of people who are religious. Only extremists are how bananarama explains, yet its an accepted view of all religious people? I know a hell of a lot of people who are religious yet by looking at them or being around them you'd never guess they were because they don't preach and don't come across as brainwashed. Religion is a lot broader and has a lot more types of people than people realise


It's nothing to do with what types of people are religious its about how people become religious....Religion in the main is educated brainwashed endoctrenated all depending on the extremity of the tutors.....From religious societies or institutions or simply faith addicted parents....Either way the minds of children are abused by taking advantage of their gullability in believeing in what elders tell them....

Religion should be "X" rated like porn......Children should not be allowed near it until they are old enough to have free minds and free choices to be able to accept or reject such a complex and controversial adult subject...

Rubbish. Theres a difference between talking and brainwashing. Children are told about religions, its then up to them what decision they make. They don't have to be religious if they don't want to be. Children naturally question things, its nowhere near as black and white as you're trying to make out.

I totally agree with you, Tom.
Surely it's not everyone else's concern if people want to believe in something, people don't go around shouting at kids "SANTA'S NOT REAL! PROVE HE IS! SEE! AHAHAHAAA GUTTED", so I don't see why it should be acceptable for people to be basically interrogated about their beliefs, whether they're agreed with or not

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by bananarama
Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

100% agree

Then clearly you have no idea about the types of people who are religious. Only extremists are how bananarama explains, yet its an accepted view of all religious people? I know a hell of a lot of people who are religious yet by looking at them or being around them you'd never guess they were because they don't preach and don't come across as brainwashed. Religion is a lot broader and has a lot more types of people than people realise


It's nothing to do with what types of people are religious its about how people become religious....Religion in the main is educated brainwashed endoctrenated all depending on the extremity of the tutors.....From religious societies or institutions or simply faith addicted parents....Either way the minds of children are abused by taking advantage of their gullability in believeing in what elders tell them....

Religion should be "X" rated like porn......Children should not be allowed near it until they are old enough to have free minds and free choices to be able to accept or reject such a complex and controversial adult subject...

Rubbish. Theres a difference between talking and brainwashing. Children are told about religions, its then up to them what decision they make. They don't have to be religious if they don't want to be. Children naturally question things, its nowhere near as black and white as you're trying to make out.


What is complete rubbish my friend is that you seem to approve of gullable trusting minds being abused by grooming adults. Shame on you.....:devil:

[Tom]

Originally posted by bananarama

What is complete rubbish my friend is that you seem to approve of gullable trusting minds being abused by grooming adults. Shame on you.....:devil:

Nah, just that you're very close minded and have a set opinion on things you aren't willing to change. You also clearly have no experience of religion and being in one, so really who are you to say what goes on and how people become religious in the first place? Its all a bit stereotypical and I'm finding it quite laughable that you think what you do tbh

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by bananarama
Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

100% agree

the woman you want to vote in to power is a fundamentalist Christian who wants to use her power to have her views taught in schools and will influence foreign policy!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by hannahhhh
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by bananarama
Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

100% agree

Then clearly you have no idea about the types of people who are religious. Only extremists are how bananarama explains, yet its an accepted view of all religious people? I know a hell of a lot of people who are religious yet by looking at them or being around them you'd never guess they were because they don't preach and don't come across as brainwashed. Religion is a lot broader and has a lot more types of people than people realise


It's nothing to do with what types of people are religious its about how people become religious....Religion in the main is educated brainwashed endoctrenated all depending on the extremity of the tutors.....From religious societies or institutions or simply faith addicted parents....Either way the minds of children are abused by taking advantage of their gullability in believeing in what elders tell them....

Religion should be "X" rated like porn......Children should not be allowed near it until they are old enough to have free minds and free choices to be able to accept or reject such a complex and controversial adult subject...

Rubbish. Theres a difference between talking and brainwashing. Children are told about religions, its then up to them what decision they make. They don't have to be religious if they don't want to be. Children naturally question things, its nowhere near as black and white as you're trying to make out.

I totally agree with you, Tom.
Surely it's not everyone else's concern if people want to believe in something, people don't go around shouting at kids "SANTA'S NOT REAL! PROVE HE IS! SEE! AHAHAHAAA GUTTED", so I don't see why it should be acceptable for people to be basically interrogated about their beliefs, whether they're agreed with or not

thats funny you should say that but last year I was in town at Xmas with my friend and we had our kids with us and this crazy woman came up and shouted SANTAs NOT REAL at them it was mad we just stood there open mouthed and she ran off!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by bananarama
Religions in the main is all about controlling people en mass....Make them fear some imaginary god and some will do anything even kill...

Religion is the worlds greatest curse and we would be well rid of such brain washed societies....

Religious instituitions love getting them as young as possible to groom the young and vuneranble minds in to believeing what ever brand of religious stuff and nonesense they want to afflict children with....So that the control freak delusionary maddness is handed down from generation to generation...

thats quite a narrow view, theres good and bad sides to religion, thats all I really have the energy to say right now lol...oh and have you been in to a church lately haha

[NettoSuperstar!]

the purple rinse brigade are an evil lot

[Jen]

I'm a catholic...
Well I should be...
I just gave up around Year 8... I don't like beliving in something that I find hard to commit to with such crap evidence...
I would wish for the clergy in the vatican in rome to go into it and rip out the scrolls they are hiding..
They will have so many answers...
Is Jesus Real..?
Is God real...?
If it isn't, why was it made up..?
If it is, what is the meaning of all of it...?

I know they are scared if it all isn't real the christian church will go up in an uproar... but people who are putting they heart, trust and faith into a religion for most of their lives deserve Real answers...

[hannah.]

Originally posted by JDIZZEL
I'm a catholic...
Well I should be...
I just gave up around Year 8... I don't like beliving in something that I find hard to commit to with such c**p evidence...
I would wish for the clergy in the vatican in rome to go into it and rip out the scrolls they are hiding..
They will have so many answers...
Is Jesus Real..?
Is God real...?
If it isn't, why was it made up..?
If it is, what is the meaning of all of it...?

I know they are scared if it all isn't real the christian church will go up in an uproar... but people who are putting they heart, trust and faith into a religion for most of their lives deserve Real answers...

I always find it interesting when people are brought up as a religion and then think about it at a certain age and decide not to. How were the family dynamics when you told your parents that you'd lost faith?

[that sounds really up myself and stupid, i basically mean what did your parents say when you told then :laugh:]

[Jen]

Originally posted by hannahhhh
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
I'm a catholic...
Well I should be...
I just gave up around Year 8... I don't like beliving in something that I find hard to commit to with such c**p evidence...
I would wish for the clergy in the vatican in rome to go into it and rip out the scrolls they are hiding..
They will have so many answers...
Is Jesus Real..?
Is God real...?
If it isn't, why was it made up..?
If it is, what is the meaning of all of it...?

I know they are scared if it all isn't real the christian church will go up in an uproar... but people who are putting they heart, trust and faith into a religion for most of their lives deserve Real answers...

I always find it interesting when people are brought up as a religion and then think about it at a certain age and decide not to. How were the family dynamics when you told your parents that you'd lost faith?

[that sounds really up myself and stupid, i basically mean what did your parents say when you told then :laugh:]


The bad thing is I was in secondary school when I just gave up so I still go to a catholic school.... R.E class 4 times a week.
Angry.
But they live with it now.. they told me later they were angry because I wasted so much time not being (Going to sound cheesy) true to myself? *Don't know how to put it*

:D Sorry.. its the best way I can put it. LOL

[SiaSiaSia]

I think religion is a way to live your life and how you perceive death: each religion has their own ideas of death.

Religion is also a comfort to some people as death is a scary thing, (to most anyway).

I'd say I'm agnostic - I think it would be nice to have faith in a religion but studying philosophy has completley ****ed up my mind, hahah.