US presidential election 2008

[Spike]

With not so long until election day, I think we need a thread for the presidential election.
http://www.donkeydish.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/mccain_obama.jpg
Obama vs McCain

Discuss here

[Sarah.]

Oh, how exciting.

[JOSHUAH!]

OMG. Obama should totally win it!

Do they want to step backwards or forwards. Old John McCain and that horrible Palin woman. She just strikes me as such an arrogant person with all her 'beliefs' about guns and everything. I sure hope they don't win. If Hillary Clinton had been chosen for Obama's VP, McCain wouldn't of chosen Sarah Palin.

[KKBL]

Obama has to win.

[Shaun]

Don't like either candidate, always wanted Hillary to win. :sad:

[Spike]

I also wanted Hillary to win but I just do not like and trust Obama
McCain to win

I think the debate in a few hours is important, McCain needs to do great to get back in the race

[JeanP!]

Originally posted by Spike
I also wanted Hillary to win but I just do not like and trust Obama
McCain to win

I think the debate in a few hours is important, McCain needs to do great to get back in the race

OMG I agree 100%
I hate NObama too

[Ross]

I wannted Hilldawg to get it. :mad:

Obama has to get it now! :cheer2:

[Spike]

The polls to who won the debate amongst voters is mixed.
A few say Obama won, a few say McCain won and a few say it was a draw

I think McCain needed to do a little better but there is still another 2 debates to go.

[Ruth]

There already was a thread?!

Here was my first post on that thread:



http://filthyrag.com/blog/2008/09/the-john-mccain-lie-counter-long-read/

Sarah Palin - doesn't believe in abortion. Says her daughter has made a choice to have her baby - fair enough....except that she wants to deny others that choice.

Was happy for rape victims to be charged for their rape testing kits.

Tried to get her brother in law fired from his job as state trooper, over a personal disagreement.

Was apparently overheard saying, "So Sambo beat the bitch," upon hearing that Obama beat Hillary Clinton for the democratic presidential nominee.

Refers to Eskimos as "Arctic Arabs".

Was asked if she agreed with the Bush doctrine - she wasn't able to say what that doctrine was.

Said that prior to accepting the job as VP candidate, she talked the decision over with her daughters. It has since been proven that she accepted the job before even telling her daughters.

When she became Mayor of Wasilla, the town had NO debt. By the time she left that post, the town was $22 million in debt.

Has been alleged dodgy expense claims.

Talks about a "Palin-McCain administration" (someone needs to remind her, she is VP candidate, not presidential candidate) and referred to McCain as her running mate. (The VP candidate is always referred to as the running mate, not the other way around - frankly if John McCain does get in, he needs to watch his back...she doesn't want to be VP, she wants the top job).

Said that if her daughter got pregnant as a result of rape, she would not allow her to have an abortion.

Is willing to wage war on Russia (thanks, but I've already lived through the threat of one Cold War - I don't fancy going through it again).

Has far less experience than Obama, despite the fact that McCain attacked Obama relentlessly for his lack of experience.

Belongs to a Church which prays to make gay people straight.

Is against same-sex marriage.


In addition to that post, I would add that in a recent interview, Sarah Palin still refers to Putin as the president of Russia. (Apparently, the fact that he flies over Alaska qualifies her in areas of foreign policy - honestly, I am not kidding)! First of all, Putin is not president any more - you would think the American VP nominee would be aware of such facts. Secondly, foreign planes fly over where I live - does that qualify me to negotiate with those countries?

She referred to the UN Complex as US soil (in the same interview). Huge error. Part of the UN agreement was that the UN Complex is NEUTRAL territory. Simple mistake you might think? Well yes, if it was you or me saying it. But it was a VP nominee! http://www.un.org/geninfo/faq/factsheets/FS23.HTM

There are now 64 proven lies which John McCain has told during the election campaign. (I know a certain member seems to think that a proven liar is a better choice for president than someone who does not appear to have told any lies whatsoever, but personally I disagree).

I also don't like the idea of a man who makes jokes about women being raped (McCain), or that we should give free cigarettes to Muslims, to give them cancer (McCain), or who chants, "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" and then tells protesters to "get a life" (yep, you got it - McCain again).

Sorry for repeating myself, but if a duplicate thread hadn't been made, I wouldn't need to.

Obama is ahead almost all of the polls. What is interesting is that even in staunch replublican states, which McCain is doubtless going to win, he is only up by 2 or 3 points, whereas Bush won those states by huge amounts. I am also happy to see that polls are showing more people wanting Biden as VP than Palin. In fact, her popularity has dropped massively since she was announced as McCain's running mate.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Thank you once again Ruth! how anyone can support those two is beyond me! Ive said my piece on it before

[NettoSuperstar!]

**** Ive chipped a friggin tooth on my fork

[NettoSuperstar!]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Spike]

Just watching the debate now
It seems as soon as McCain gave Obama a difficult question, Obama changed the topic so quickly. McCain could of been abit more forceful when speaking.
I think both men came great out of this, maybe McCain a little more.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Obama "$600 billion spent on Iraq, 4000 lives lost and Al Quaeda stronger than ever" thats what Bush and the Republicans have done to fight terrorism!! and you want more of the same! I think Obama won that hands down. He has more heart and soul and more understanding of how to fight terrorism than the gung ho republicans will ever have

[Mark]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6XvedQbaQo

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6XvedQbaQo

I love this Cafferty guy! The sad thing is redneck america probably think shes intelligent! Its worse than Bush and I never thought that was possible

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Spike
Just watching the debate now
It seems as soon as McCain gave Obama a difficult question, Obama changed the topic so quickly. McCain could of been abit more forceful when speaking.
I think both men came great out of this, maybe McCain a little more.

Most polls have Obama as coming out of it far better.

McCain trying to postpone the debate has done him no favours whatsoever. I think McCain will be very lucky to win this election now (and I hope he loses).

[Ruth]

I am looking forward to the Biden/Palin debate. I think he will rip her to shreds. Since being named as VP nominee, Biden has done almost 100 interviews. Palin has done...3. And put her foot in it in every single one.

[Sunny_01]

I couldnt believe that Palin interview, why oh why would they let her speak in public, she is just making herself look like a numptie!!!

[Ruth]

Current betting odds (which have been just as accurate as the polls, and more accurate than them in recent years) have Obama at 4-11 to win, and McCain at 15-8 to win, which is great news.

[Spike]

Interesting odds, I think it will get closer.
McCain really needed to perform better in that debate but he didn't do badly
I think alot is going to rest on what Palin says before the election.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Spike
Interesting odds, I think it will get closer.
McCain really needed to perform better in that debate but he didn't do badly
I think alot is going to rest on what Palin says before the election.

Possibly. But to be honest (and I'm not trying to pick a fight)! I think she has become a thorn in the side of the Republican campaign. For her to have only given three interviews since being announced (Biden has given nearly 100), and on each of those interviews she has made a blunder...it's not looking good. A VP nominee really should know who the president of Russia is, especially as she keeps going on about how Alaska is next to Russia, which she seems to think qualifies her to talk knowledgeably about the country). In her recent press conference, she only too 4(!) questions, and all the news channels (even Fox News, which is massively right wing) are unhappy with the way the Republican camp seem to be trying to protect her.

[Ruth]

McCain is now retracting statements made by Sarah Palin (with regard to whether the US would enter Pakistan). He must be kicking himself for picking her.

She basically agreed with Obama's stance, and now McCain has had to retract what she said. Oh, it does make me smile.....

[Tom4784]

Obama has to win, I don't want that alaskan Yokel anywhere NEAR the white house. Republicans have wrecked enough havoc for now I say.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Ruth
I am looking forward to the Biden/Palin debate. I think he will rip her to shreds. Since being named as VP nominee, Biden has done almost 100 interviews. Palin has done...3. And put her foot in it in every single one.

are they going to have a debate? Oh that will be great!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Spike
Interesting odds, I think it will get closer.
McCain really needed to perform better in that debate but he didn't do badly
I think alot is going to rest on what Palin says before the election.

and shes the nail in the Republican coffin!

[Ruth]

Originally posted by bbE
Originally posted by Ruth
I am looking forward to the Biden/Palin debate. I think he will rip her to shreds. Since being named as VP nominee, Biden has done almost 100 interviews. Palin has done...3. And put her foot in it in every single one.

are they going to have a debate? Oh that will be great!

I think it's Thursday night (which will be early hours of Friday morning over here).

[James]

That video reminds me of... :shocked::shocked::shocked:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

:whistle:

[30stone]

Originally posted by James
That video reminds me of... :shocked::shocked::shocked:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

:whistle:


Well at least she has her looks. lol

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by James
That video reminds me of... :shocked::shocked::shocked:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

:whistle:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Ah man! I miss my dim american blondes!!!

[NettoSuperstar!]

that guy wants to laugh so much! That was a young Sarah Palin!

[Ruth]

There are lots of calls for McCain to get rid of Palin now, even from the far right, who you would think would be her main supporters. As an Obama fan, I sincerely hope that he does NOT get rid of her! Obama is still ahead in the polls, with a comfortable lead.

BTW, has everyone seen the video of Tina Fey doing Sarah Palin?

http://uk.eonline.com/uberblog/b31376_tina_fey_returns_sarah_palin_do_you.html

[Spike]

I don't wont him to get rid of Palin, I really like her
hopefully she will do well in the debate but if she doesn't then maybe it would be best for him to get rid of her and show he is a strong man who can make tough decisions.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Spike
I don't wont him to get rid of Palin, I really like her
hopefully she will do well in the debate but if she doesn't then maybe it would be best for him to get rid of her and show he is a strong man who can make tough decisions.

it's a no-win situation for him. A lot of people want her out because she is useless, but people are also saying that if he gets rid of her now, it shows that he is not capable of making good decisions for picking her in the first place (after all, you would assume that someone would put a hell of a lot of thought into who he would pick for his running mate).

Did you see that interview which Palin did with Katie Couric? It was even funnier than the spoof video which I posted above. She was floundering terribly.

[Ruth]

CNN had 12000 emails in 45 minutes, a huge majority of which say that Palin should step down. The Katie Couric interview was a disaster for her. McCain is also coming under a lot of fire for picking someone who was clearly incapable.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by Spike
I don't wont him to get rid of Palin, I really like her
hopefully she will do well in the debate but if she doesn't then maybe it would be best for him to get rid of her and show he is a strong man who can make tough decisions.

it's a no-win situation for him. A lot of people want her out because she is useless, but people are also saying that if he gets rid of her now, it shows that he is not capable of making good decisions for picking her in the first place (after all, you would assume that someone would put a hell of a lot of thought into who he would pick for his running mate).

Did you see that interview which Palin did with Katie Couric? It was even funnier than the spoof video which I posted above. She was floundering terribly.

Yeah true, but McCain must way up the situation and see which decision would be the biggest loss for his campaign. I think the republican camp will have really prepared her for the debate and one good performance off her and the situation could be fixed
I did see the interview and it wasn't good for Palin, its the first interview I have seen where I have thought just shut up!

[Spike]

If she doesn't pull off a few good performances in the next few days then I think the best situation would be for her to step down. It doesn't make McCain look as bad as if he had of got rid of her.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Spike
If she doesn't pull off a few good performances in the next few days then I think the best situation would be for her to step down. It doesn't make McCain look as bad as if he had of got rid of her.

Well, that would be my initial thought also. However, if she steps down now, people will still know that it is because she is doing badly.

I'm not sure she will do well in the debate. You would think they would have prepared her well, but who knows?

It's worth repeating again that since being named as VP nominee, Biden has now done around 100 interviews with press/journalists. Sarah Palin has done....3. I saw two of them (Katie Couric and Charles Gibson), and she performed terribly on both of them.

What is really surprising is that current stats show a less than 1% chance of McCain winning all the states that Bush won in 2004. The states that Bush won easily and which should be staunch Republicans are not looking good for McCain.

In Virginia, Obama is up currently by 1.4 points. Bush won that in 2004 by 8.2 points. (The last time a Democrat won in this state was 1964).

Florida is currently tied. Bush won that in 2004 by 5 points.

North Carolina has Obama up by 0.7 points (still statistically a tie). Bush won in 2004 by 12.4 points.

In Indiana, McCain is up by 2.3 points. In 2004, Bush won it by over 20 points.

Colorado - Obama is currently up by 5 points. Bush won it in 2004 by 4.7 points.

New Mexico has Obama up by 6 points. Bush won by 1 point in 2004.

[Fom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Clear evidence Mccain is a liar! Just like Bush!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Incompetance! Though they voted Bush in so...

[Ruth]

McCain wants to be dictator, not president:conf2:

http://gannett.a.mms.mavenapps.net/mms/rt/1/site/gannett-desmoines-150-pub01-live/current/launch.html?maven_playerId=johnmccain08&maven_referralObject=873812272

In the first minute of the video..."If I were a dictator, which I will always aspire to be..."

[Ruth]

The McCain campaign is in freefall (yippee)! My hubby is getting up at 2.00am to watch the Biden/Palin debate, as he has a day off tomorrow. I wish I could get up and watch it, but I'm at work tomorrow, so he is under strict instructions to record it!

I wonder what gaffes she will come out with? I know they will have prepped her as well as possible, but you would think they would have prepped her for the Couric and Gibson interviews, and look how they turned out!

[letmein]

Originally posted by Spike
I don't wont him to get rid of Palin, I really like her
hopefully she will do well in the debate but if she doesn't then maybe it would be best for him to get rid of her and show he is a strong man who can make tough decisions.

:rolleyes:


Some people are just frightening on here.

[Spike]

Just watched the debate, Palin was much better than I expected and probably won the debate.
Bidden didn't do badly and no harm to the Obama campaign but he didn't really deliver.

[NettoSuperstar!]

She's a puppet, she cant think for herself she has to have other people do it for her, Scary!

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Spike
Just watched the debate, Palin was much better than I expected and probably won the debate.
Bidden didn't do badly and no harm to the Obama campaign but he didn't really deliver.

Palin won the debate?????!!!!!! You're joking, surely? Even Fox News (which is unbelievably right wing) said that while she did better than expected, she did NOT win the debate.

And yes, she did do better than expected. But considering everyone expected her to do appallingly badly, that's not saying a lot.

I've been checking sites and news channels for much of the morning, and nobody else yet seems to think that she won. Remember - doing better than awful is not equal to winning:spin2:

[NettoSuperstar!]

...another funny vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCh2re_Zx1g

[NettoSuperstar!]

...and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdDqSvJ6aHc

[ange7]

lol ... we had the vice presidential debate go out live here in Sydney on 2 of the 5 network stations today!! The world really is watching this one.

ps what was all her winking at the cameras about? hehe
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00408/WINK_PIXEL_SIZE_185_408959a.JPG

[MarkWaldorf]

I just read that over 69 Million people watched the debate in America. :o

[Spike]

Originally posted by Markus
I just read that over 69 Million people watched the debate in America. :o

I think thats more than the Obama - McCain debate
Thats probably due to most of the attention on Palin, so glad she delivered

[Bells]

Both sides came well prepared. I thought Palin did better than expected, but I genuinely feel she comes across as more of an endorsement for McCain, rather than Vice-President material. Even whilst speaking, it sounds as though she is chanting McCain's achievements, rather than staying true to opinions of her own. This will obviously appeal to McCain supporters, because they seem to want achievements listed rather than actual policies.

The opinions put across which happen to be hers, however (e.g. supporting teaching creationism in schools/anti-abortion), are frankly quite worrying. I really don't think the world is ready, particularly not when she has the potential to become President herself (if McCain serves one term). Those who vote for them deserve all they get if the Republicans end up with another 4 years. And it certainly doesn't improve international relations/foreign policy.

On the other hand, Joe Biden comes across as a lot more real. In fact, he has disagreed with Obama on several occasions, which deepens their mutual respect and allows the government to be run more honestly. I'm not saying I support all Democrat policies. In fact, I think more choice is needed as far as the two-party system goes, both in the UK and the US. But I would much rather see Biden/Obama in office rather than the alternative.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Markus
I just read that over 69 Million people watched the debate in America. :o

I think thats more than the Obama - McCain debate
Thats probably due to most of the attention on Palin, so glad she delivered

Yes, about 54 million watched the Obama-McCain debate.

The general consensus is that Palin didn't deliver. She did better than expected, but that's only because she was expected to do dreadfully.

[Ruth]

Palin is now moaning about the Katie Couric interviews, because Katie didn't ask the questions that Palin wanted to answer:rolleyes: Poor ickle Palin. If she can't handle Katie Couric, how on earth does she think she will cope with other world leaders. Dear me, just when I think she can't get any more ridiculous, she amazes me yet again!

[Ruth]

Interesting article here (http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/10/06/2008-10-06_sarah_palins_charm_is_lost_on_voters_who.html)

Basically saying that she might have the style and the ability to perform in a debate, but Palin lacks any actual knowledge or ability.

[Ruth]

Regarding her debate - her pre-debate interviews set the bar ridiculously low (due to her complete ineptidue in both of them). Most McCain-Palin are just happy she didn't freeze up or make a dangerously erroneous comment; however it was obvious that she Palin just ignored or sidestepped questions she was not comfortable (read: knowledgeable) about (there were many of these) before delivering an obviously pre-prepared statement that she memorized during her recent cram session in Arizona.

These rehearsed 'messages to the people' were filled with the good southern girl image dialogue (golly, darn, gosh, etc). Probably the Republican strategy was to bust this out a couple times and play up that image. She did well in that respect although she failed to answer simple questions that 95% of politicians could legitimately answer.

She also mentioned something about wanting to speak to the American people rather than a debate. Fair enough - but she has turned down so many interviews where she could have made her point to the people. As I said before - Biden has done around 100 interviews since being named VP nominee. Palin has done 3 (not including the debates). Seems to me that there is only one thing she craves - and that is power.

Btw - she refers to the Republican ticket as "a team of mavericks." Could someone please advise her that this is a contradiction in terms?

[Ruth]

Funny pic here (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/3/43222/8057/718/618653)

Beware - it contains a couple of naughty words. (Sorry mods - hope this is okay).

[ange7]

SNL Tina Fey VP Debate - 10/4/08 Latest Hits of Tina Fey on SNL as Sarah Palin Joe Biden Queen Latifah
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X5E6CzL9EKQ

[Spike]

Originally posted by Ruth
Palin is now moaning about the Katie Couric interviews, because Katie didn't ask the questions that Palin wanted to answer:rolleyes: Poor ickle Palin. If she can't handle Katie Couric, how on earth does she think she will cope with other world leaders. Dear me, just when I think she can't get any more ridiculous, she amazes me yet again!

I do have to kinda agree with Palin about the questions asked
but if she did more interviews then she would be more likely to get those questions asked so she could answer.

[Ruth]

But if she becomes VP, she is going to have to get used to dealing with questions she is not happy with. And if she can't handle Katie Couric, how will she handle other world leaders?

[Ruth]

Yet another interesting article here (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-aip3-2008sep03,0,6399468.story)

[MarkWaldorf]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f6MjGUHfWmY
Lmaoo.

[Ross]

Originally posted by Markus
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f6MjGUHfWmY
Lmaoo.
I LOVE THAT LMAO.

He is hiding in a haddy of a tall chocolate baddy

[MrGaryy]

Ugh, I just watched the VP debate (I Sky +ed it).

Sarah Palin; what a vile woman, the thought of her in power is a truly scary thought. She continues to stress how open-minded she is but is constantly contradicting herself with her views on gay marriage, Iran and abortion!

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Ugh, I just watched the VP debate (I Sky +ed it).

Sarah Palin; what a vile woman, the thought of her in power is a truly scary thought. She continues to stress how open-minded she is but is constantly contradicting herself with her views on gay marriage, Iran and abortion!

Refusing to answer the questions she was asked. Deciding what she wanted to talk about - she needs to realise she's not chairing this debate.

"I want to talk about energy" - why Sarah? Because that's the one subject you had boned up on?

Also, I think everyone in the entire western hemisphere now knows that she is a "hockey mom" (although they might not know that she was only one for perhaps 2 years at the most) - there's really no need for her to keep reminding us at every opportunity. I would think people would want more than that in their VP.

did anyone catch Tim Robbins on The Daily Show last night? His comments about McCain and Palin were spot on.

[Ruth]

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v363/9/4/525728266/n525728266_936027_3426.jpg

[bananarama]

I prefer the Republican party but the more I see McCain the more I think he should be in a nursing home.

[Spike]

Rex Features
Madonna has banned US vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin from attending her live shows.

During her 'Sticky & Sweet' tour date in New York, the popstar broke from her performance to launch an attack on the Republican politician.

She said: "Sarah Palin can't come to my party. Sarah Palin can't come to my show. It's nothing personal."

Later in the show, when a technical glitch caused a high-pitched screeching noise, Madonna commented: "Here's the sound of Sarah Palin's husband's snowmobile when it won't start."

P. Diddy, Lindsay Lohan and Pink have also declared their dislike for Palin, the running mate of Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

I can see why people dislike Palin but there is no need for this sort of hatred
but then again I do prefer Madonna

[Ruth]

Doesn't strike me as 'hatred' to be honest.

[MrGaryy]

I don't think it's hatred, although I some how doubt that she'd have been rushing to by tickets anyway, then again she should have time seen as she's done a total of . . 3 interviews.

[Ruth]

Looks like the polls are chalking the second debate up as a win for Obama:hello::banana:

Even McCain supporters are saying that McCain did not do anywhere near enough in that debate. As the polls stand, if the election was today, Obama would win it very easily.

[Spike]

After the news on Palin today it doesn't look good for the republican campaign
I think its Obama's to lose now

[Ruth]

Indeed. And now that it is has been found that Palin acted unethically over the 'Troopergate' incident - hmmm.....

As current polls stand, if the election was right now, Obama would win in a landslide.

Incidentally, 93% of UK residents would like Obama to win. Worldwide, 87% would like Obama to win.

[NettoSuperstar!]

funny isnt it how the republican supporters dont give any reasons for supporting them! I wonder why that is...hmm perhaps reasons they wouldnt want to share!

[Spike]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
funny isnt it how the republican supporters dont give any reasons for supporting them! I wonder why that is...hmm perhaps reasons they wouldnt want to share!

people can support who they want, they don't have to justify themselves

[ange7]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
funny isnt it how the republican supporters dont give any reasons for supporting them! I wonder why that is...hmm perhaps reasons they wouldnt want to share!

people can support who they want, they don't have to justify themselves
wow... what?... so why bother even having a forum mate? . Are you dreaming of a world where people can say what ever they want without the troublesome need of making sense nor needing to justify what they believe in? ... lol we already have that!! ... (head...sand)

anyway here's what I saw today ...
http://palinaspresident.com/

plus
http://www.hopelessgeek.com/files/hg/Whoa.jpg

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
funny isnt it how the republican supporters dont give any reasons for supporting them! I wonder why that is...hmm perhaps reasons they wouldnt want to share!

people can support who they want, they don't have to justify themselves

yeh you'd think they might on a forum thread concerning the election. I didnt say you had to either! I said its "FUNNY" that you dont!!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Funny Ange like it:thumbs:

[Spike]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
funny isnt it how the republican supporters dont give any reasons for supporting them! I wonder why that is...hmm perhaps reasons they wouldnt want to share!

people can support who they want, they don't have to justify themselves

yeh you'd think they might on a forum thread concerning the election. I didnt say you had to either! I said its "FUNNY" that you dont!!

exactly people don't have to
so why do you find it funny that people don't when they don't have to.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
funny isnt it how the republican supporters dont give any reasons for supporting them! I wonder why that is...hmm perhaps reasons they wouldnt want to share!

people can support who they want, they don't have to justify themselves

yeh you'd think they might on a forum thread concerning the election. I didnt say you had to either! I said its "FUNNY" that you dont!!

exactly people don't have to
so why do you find it funny that people don't when they don't have to.

because it makes me wonder why they dont and then I come up with my own conclusions know watta mean?

[Ruth]

Well it does seem a bit odd to start a thread talking about the US election, and then not say why you support someone.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Ruth
Well it does seem a bit odd to start a thread talking about the US election, and then not say why you support someone.

Isnt it just?

[Ruth]

I mean, it would be like me starting a thread about X Factor, and then saying I don't watch it!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Ruth
I mean, it would be like me starting a thread about X Factor, and then saying I don't watch it!

oh yeh he flippin started the thread aswell! and has expressed nothing!...thats the people voting for Mcain/Palin folks...they have nothing, nada, diddly to back up their support other than a dislike of Obama hmmm wonder why that is?? Some of them dont even care about the politics theyve even stated they supported Hilary Clinton a fellow democrat, but would rather vote a republican than Obama! AGAIN I wonder why???...nothing they care to share anyways:wink:

[Ruth]

well! After watching the third debate I think it's fair to say that the wheel has well and truly come off McCain's campaign. And he has slipped even further behind in the polls!:dance:

[Spike]

I thought McCain did great in the debate but its too late
Unless something Major happens Obama is the next president

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Spike
I thought McCain did great in the debate but its too late
Unless something Major happens Obama is the next president

well if you call resorting to an erroneous smear campaign
"great" yah yah he did great!:conf2:

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Spike
I thought McCain did great in the debate but its too late
Unless something Major happens Obama is the next president

Polls show 79% think Obama won that debate. McCain did dreadfully. I mean, really really terribly. Fluffed his words, got angry and spiteful. Obama showed far more class and respect.

On the political forums I go on, many people think that McCain was on something (even his supporters)!

Seriously though, I think McCain has health issues. I really do. And we don't need a president with issues with his mind. He looks like he has aged 10 years just during this campaign, and we haven't even reached the election yet.

Obama is predicted to win by a mile.

[Ruth]

In the CNN voter charts, women flatlined when McCain mentioned Sarah Palin. Simply put, this shows that women don't like Sarah Palin (which was not what McCain was hoping for when he picked her - another example of his failing health).

McCain is a condescending git. Has to have the last word constantly. And resorts to cheap and petty insults. The man is a moron.

[Ruth]

McCain's attempts to use Joe the Plumber fell flat as well. Loved it when he was trying to make a point about potential fines for Joe's business (under Obama's administration). When asked what the fine would be, Obama said, "Zero," making a zero sign with his hands. Note to McCcain - it really would be worthwhile researching things before you try to use them against your younger and far more intelligent opponent.

Dear dear, what with Palin being found Guilty of abusing her power as governor, women votes turning away from her in droves, and McCain clearly losing the plot, this campaign is turning into a pantomime.

[NettoSuperstar!]

yeh exactly Mcain is a bumbling fool his reasoning and arguments are based on nothing substantial, his whole campaign has been ill thought out and scatty! Obama on the other hand is cool calm intelligent and focused, thats the man you want running one of the most powerful countries in the world!

[bigbr0ther]

I pick...

neither!

Bob Barr is my choice.

[Ruth]

WOW!!! Breaking news...Bush's former Secretary of State Colin Powell has endorsed Barack Obama today. This is HUGE news:banana:

[microscope]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

"Mcain is a bumbling fool his reasoning and arguments are based on nothing substantial, his whole campaign has been ill thought out and scatty! Obama on the other hand is cool calm intelligent and focused, thats the man you want running one of the most powerful countries in the world! "

So your basically saying that Obama has sold himself better to the American people than McCain. Now it's time to vote Obama for that reason, I don't think so.

Whoever gets in, it will make no difference to the country as a whole. Whether powerful or not.

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Ruth
McCain's attempts to use Joe the Plumber fell flat as well. Loved it when he was trying to make a point about potential fines for Joe's business (under Obama's administration). When asked what the fine would be, Obama said, "Zero," making a zero sign with his hands. Note to McCcain - it really would be worthwhile researching things before you try to use them against your younger and far more intelligent opponent.

Dear dear, what with Palin being found Guilty of abusing her power as governor, women votes turning away from her in droves, and McCain clearly losing the plot, this campaign is turning into a pantomime.

Turns out that 'Joe The Plumber' is a phony.
- He's not a licensed plumber
- He's not an indecisive voter
- He's a registered member of the Republican Party
- He doesn't earn enough to be affected by any tax increases
- He's nearly $2000 in arrears on taxes
- He's not trying to set himself up in business
-His name is Samuel, not Joe

[bee-ash]

obama could make more changes hopefully around the world too

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

"Mcain is a bumbling fool his reasoning and arguments are based on nothing substantial, his whole campaign has been ill thought out and scatty! Obama on the other hand is cool calm intelligent and focused, thats the man you want running one of the most powerful countries in the world! "

So your basically saying that Obama has sold himself better to the American people than McCain. Now it's time to vote Obama for that reason, I don't think so.

Whoever gets in, it will make no difference to the country as a whole. Whether powerful or not.

Thats not all Ive said no and...

I disagree, they'll actually have someone intelligent in there for a change for one! and the effect it will have on foreign perception of the US will be massive! This is history in the making and he represents hope to the world. Not to mention his sensible and intelligent ideas on the economy and foreign policy!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Ruth
WOW!!! Breaking news...Bush's former Secretary of State Colin Powell has endorsed Barack Obama today. This is HUGE news:banana:

yeh thats good especailly as he was a republican hahha

[microscope]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

"Mcain is a bumbling fool his reasoning and arguments are based on nothing substantial, his whole campaign has been ill thought out and scatty! Obama on the other hand is cool calm intelligent and focused, thats the man you want running one of the most powerful countries in the world! "

So your basically saying that Obama has sold himself better to the American people than McCain. Now it's time to vote Obama for that reason, I don't think so.

Whoever gets in, it will make no difference to the country as a whole. Whether powerful or not.

Thats not all Ive said no and...

I disagree, they'll actually have someone intelligent in there for a change for one! and the effect it will have on foreign perception of the US will be massive! This is history in the making and he represents hope to the world. Not to mention his sensible and intelligent ideas on the economy and foreign policy!

I agree that George W Bush needs replacing, he's made a real mess of things while serving office but I'm not convinced that Obama or indeed McCain are really that good. I listen to some of what they both say on Sky news and I've heard it all before and I'll hear it all again. I fail to get excited, "sorry".

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

"Mcain is a bumbling fool his reasoning and arguments are based on nothing substantial, his whole campaign has been ill thought out and scatty! Obama on the other hand is cool calm intelligent and focused, thats the man you want running one of the most powerful countries in the world! "

So your basically saying that Obama has sold himself better to the American people than McCain. Now it's time to vote Obama for that reason, I don't think so.

Whoever gets in, it will make no difference to the country as a whole. Whether powerful or not.

Thats not all Ive said no and...

I disagree, they'll actually have someone intelligent in there for a change for one! and the effect it will have on foreign perception of the US will be massive! This is history in the making and he represents hope to the world. Not to mention his sensible and intelligent ideas on the economy and foreign policy!

I agree that George W Bush needs replacing, he's made a real mess of things while serving office but I'm not convinced that Obama or indeed McCain are really that good. I listen to some of what they both say on Sky news and I've heard it all before and I'll hear it all again. I fail to get excited, "sorry".

Ok thats your opinion fair dues. I think hes got a lot of intelligent policies and he could change things for the better

[NettoSuperstar!]

On the news last night they were saying Palin has spent more on designer clothes for the campaign than the average American earns in 2 Years, then they had an interview with the Obama family and his wifes dress cost 30 dollars and Obama had clothes on hed had for years. they seemed just a normal cool family down to earth! Another reason to vote Obama for me

[Fom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
On the news last night they were saying Palin has spent more on designer clothes for the campaign than the average American earns in 2 Years, then they had an interview with the Obama family and his wifes dress cost 30 dollars and Obama had clothes on hed had for years. they seemed just a normal cool family down to earth! Another reason to vote Obama for me

I read that in the papers yesterday... its been an estimated $91,000 spent on her hair, make up and clothes throughout the past few months.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
On the news last night they were saying Palin has spent more on designer clothes for the campaign than the average American earns in 2 Years, then they had an interview with the Obama family and his wifes dress cost 30 dollars and Obama had clothes on hed had for years. they seemed just a normal cool family down to earth! Another reason to vote Obama for me

I read that in the papers yesterday... its been an estimated $91,000 spent on her hair, make up and clothes throughout the past few months.

I know its shocking isnt it? She is such a muppet

[Spike]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
On the news last night they were saying Palin has spent more on designer clothes for the campaign than the average American earns in 2 Years, then they had an interview with the Obama family and his wifes dress cost 30 dollars and Obama had clothes on hed had for years. they seemed just a normal cool family down to earth! Another reason to vote Obama for me

How pathetic for Obama fans to use this as another put down to the Republican campaign.
If she wants to spend that amount of money on cloths and her look then well good on her for making the best of herself, people should concentrate on the policies rather than some stupid little thing like this

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
On the news last night they were saying Palin has spent more on designer clothes for the campaign than the average American earns in 2 Years, then they had an interview with the Obama family and his wifes dress cost 30 dollars and Obama had clothes on hed had for years. they seemed just a normal cool family down to earth! Another reason to vote Obama for me

How pathetic for Obama fans to use this as another put down to the Republican campaign.
If she wants to spend that amount of money on cloths and her look then well good on her for making the best of herself, people should concentrate on the policies rather than some stupid little thing like this

yeh I do concentrate on the policies also but I find her behaviour vulgar and I shall say so if I like! Spending that much on clothes when the country is facing the worse recession for years and the ordinary worker is paying to bail out the banks is morally repugnant! Its just another example of how dumb they are in a long list

[Chri$]

I hope Obama is President!

He is the best and he can change things!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Chri$
I hope Obama is President!

He is the best and he can change things!

:thumbs: Seems like your country can see that which is great! I dont think anyone wants more of the same! Good luck with it Y'all

[microscope]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Fom

"I read that in the papers yesterday... its been an estimated $91,000 spent on her hair, make up and clothes throughout the past few months."

I know its shocking isnt it? She is such a muppet

She's not a muppet.

She has to look her best and in order to do so, an obscene amount of money has to be spent to achieve that goal.

I personally think it is money badly spent. But you know what those rich yankees are like!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Fom

"I read that in the papers yesterday... its been an estimated $91,000 spent on her hair, make up and clothes throughout the past few months."

I know its shocking isnt it? She is such a muppet

She's not a muppet.

She has to look her best and in order to do so, an obscene amount of money has to be spent to achieve that goal.

I personally think it is money badly spent. But you know what those rich yankees are like!

LOL crazy huh

[Spike]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
On the news last night they were saying Palin has spent more on designer clothes for the campaign than the average American earns in 2 Years, then they had an interview with the Obama family and his wifes dress cost 30 dollars and Obama had clothes on hed had for years. they seemed just a normal cool family down to earth! Another reason to vote Obama for me

How pathetic for Obama fans to use this as another put down to the Republican campaign.
If she wants to spend that amount of money on cloths and her look then well good on her for making the best of herself, people should concentrate on the policies rather than some stupid little thing like this

yeh I do concentrate on the policies also but I find her behaviour vulgar and I shall say so if I like! Spending that much on clothes when the country is facing the worse recession for years and the ordinary worker is paying to bail out the banks is morally repugnant! Its just another example of how dumb they are in a long list

well its her decision if she wants to spend the money or not, and I say if you want it buy it.
people just seem to want to use any old excuse to have a dig at the woman

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
On the news last night they were saying Palin has spent more on designer clothes for the campaign than the average American earns in 2 Years, then they had an interview with the Obama family and his wifes dress cost 30 dollars and Obama had clothes on hed had for years. they seemed just a normal cool family down to earth! Another reason to vote Obama for me

How pathetic for Obama fans to use this as another put down to the Republican campaign.
If she wants to spend that amount of money on cloths and her look then well good on her for making the best of herself, people should concentrate on the policies rather than some stupid little thing like this

yeh I do concentrate on the policies also but I find her behaviour vulgar and I shall say so if I like! Spending that much on clothes when the country is facing the worse recession for years and the ordinary worker is paying to bail out the banks is morally repugnant! Its just another example of how dumb they are in a long list

well its her decision if she wants to spend the money or not, and I say if you want it buy it.

Yes and not a wise decision. if you think its a good idea to spend $91 000 dollars whilst ordinary people are working their bollocks off to fix the greedy numpties mistakes then I dont have anything furthur to discuss with you. Not a smart move from the republican camp, but then there hasnt been any!

[Annie]

Always vote for a black guy when there is one :hello:

[NettoSuperstar!]

LOL

[Spike]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
On the news last night they were saying Palin has spent more on designer clothes for the campaign than the average American earns in 2 Years, then they had an interview with the Obama family and his wifes dress cost 30 dollars and Obama had clothes on hed had for years. they seemed just a normal cool family down to earth! Another reason to vote Obama for me

How pathetic for Obama fans to use this as another put down to the Republican campaign.
If she wants to spend that amount of money on cloths and her look then well good on her for making the best of herself, people should concentrate on the policies rather than some stupid little thing like this

yeh I do concentrate on the policies also but I find her behaviour vulgar and I shall say so if I like! Spending that much on clothes when the country is facing the worse recession for years and the ordinary worker is paying to bail out the banks is morally repugnant! Its just another example of how dumb they are in a long list

well its her decision if she wants to spend the money or not, and I say if you want it buy it.

Yes and not a wise decision. if you think its a good idea to spend $91 000 dollars whilst ordinary people are working their ******** off to fix the greedy numpties mistakes then I dont have anything furthur to discuss with you. Not a smart move from the republican camp, but then there hasnt been any!

:cheer:Looks like you don't have anything further to discuss with me then..

[JOSHUAH!]

Just seen on the news the latest poll was something like:
OBAMA: 50%
MCCAIN: 42%

:cheer:

[Spike]

If thats the latest poll then Obama and especially McCain have done very well lately

[Sunny_01]

My concern is where the money has come from to fund Palins new "image" It has possibly come from campaign money, if this is so then that is just plain wrong. It shouldnt matter how much your dress cost as long as your policies and committment is strong.

Palin always uses the line "hockey mom" yet her kids played very little, I travel all over the country with my daughter for ice hockey and dont need to use it as a pitch to get a job, it doesnt appear on my CV so why is it on hers?

I respect Obama and his simple ways of seeing things, why do politicians have to over complicate things?

[Magic]

OBAMA!
Please, America needs him!

[Spike]

These Obama fans are crazy. After a poll showed McCain ahead in Florida and Ohio, the company who did this poll have received death threats

I have seen a few stories today which seem more for McCain, today is the first day in a few weeks where I believe McCain could win it but its still a big ask

[Fom]

I would be very VERY scared if McCain won... America would be in such a mess. Some times I wonder if he even realises how important his job actually is!

[Fom]

“I look at these people and can't quite believe that they exist. Are they professional actors? I wonder. Or are they simply laymen who want a lot of attention? To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. "Can I interest you in the chicken?" she asks. "Or would you prefer the platter of **** with bits of broken glass in it? To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked."

- Author David Sedaris, on undecided voters

[Spike]

Just looking at a few of the latest poll figures and it looks McCain is starting to close in and take over Obama in some states. If this continues it looks like it will be alot closer than everyone thinks

[Fom]

I would like to know what morons are voting for him... I want to know what they find appealing about him? Its almost as if a 10 year old is running for president!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Fom
I would like to know what morons are voting for him... I want to know what they find appealing about him? Its almost as if a 10 year old is running for president!

yeh it is morons voting for him and I have my suspicions as to why they are as there is no logical reason to be backing him, but I shall have to keep them to myself or I'll be in trouble:thumbs:

[Spike]

So people who vote for McCain are morons, get real
Everyone has a different opinion and obviously McCain appeals to alot of people. Everyone doesn't have to think that Obama is some kind of God who is going to make everything better in the world.
The reason why I like McCain over Obama is that I think he will deliver on his promises and policies and make moves which will be better in the long term for America and the world even if it goes against what people want. Whereas Obama, i'm unsure if he will deliver and if he is strong enough to make those big decisions.

[Spike]

Most of the latest figures are
Obama 51%
McCain 45%

Its getting interesting now, if somehow Obama loses some support in the next week then maybe nobody could call it. But I do worry how many of the swing states McCain can grab

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Spike
These Obama fans are crazy. After a poll showed McCain ahead in Florida and Ohio, the company who did this poll have received death threats

I have seen a few stories today which seem more for McCain, today is the first day in a few weeks where I believe McCain could win it but its still a big ask

And many McCain fans have been shouting "Kill him" about Obama, at McCain rallies. I've seen the footage myself. So I would say those particular McCain fans are crazy too.

Goodness knows what polls you are looking at. Obama is up by about 2.3 points in Florida and about 6.1 points in Ohio (that's the average taken from a load of polls). We study about 6 or 7 different ones every day, all of which still have Obama winning comfortably. Incidentally, if even McCain did win Florida and Ohio, he would probably still lose. Obama would still probably have over 300 electoral votes.

Averaging the polls out, Obama is up by 8 points on average.

Incidentally, I would not call anyone a moron for supporting McCain. I don't understand why they would support him. And as for Palin...don't get me started.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Spike
Most of the latest figures are
Obama 51%
McCain 45%

Its getting interesting now, if somehow Obama loses some support in the next week then maybe nobody could call it. But I do worry how many of the swing states McCain can grab

There's no point just looking at one poll. Taking all the polls together and averaging them out...

Obama - 50.4
McCain - 42.4

Still a comfortable lead for Obama.

And in the last 7 major polls to be released, McCain hasn't polled above 44, and Obama hasn't polled below 50. There are some very partisan polls coming out, which just cannot be taken into serious consideration. I can only guess that it was one of those polls where you got your figures?

[M X]

Supporting,

hmm..who supports gay marriage?

[M X]

...and that Sarah Palin is a bitch.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by Spike
Most of the latest figures are
Obama 51%
McCain 45%

Its getting interesting now, if somehow Obama loses some support in the next week then maybe nobody could call it. But I do worry how many of the swing states McCain can grab

There's no point just looking at one poll. Taking all the polls together and averaging them out...

Obama - 50.4
McCain - 42.4

Still a comfortable lead for Obama.

And in the last 7 major polls to be released, McCain hasn't polled above 44, and Obama hasn't polled below 50. There are some very partisan polls coming out, which just cannot be taken into serious consideration. I can only guess that it was one of those polls where you got your figures?

urm I looked at about 3 polls all were about the same figures I gave
but the few I did look at might have been favouring McCain

[Fom]

Originally posted by Spike
So people who vote for McCain are morons, get real
Everyone has a different opinion and obviously McCain appeals to alot of people. Everyone doesn't have to think that Obama is some kind of God who is going to make everything better in the world.
The reason why I like McCain over Obama is that I think he will deliver on his promises and policies and make moves which will be better in the long term for America and the world even if it goes against what people want. Whereas Obama, i'm unsure if he will deliver and if he is strong enough to make those big decisions.

Well I think people are morons for liking him because he is also a complete moron, I admit I probably havent been following this like you but I have kept fairly up to date with it and everything I have watched from him just makes me hate him more, for one his whole 'Game plan' is pathetic and Obama just makes him look so stupid, spreading lies about Obama because he cant beat him in politics. His plans are realistic but they are no good, he has no idea what he is talking about, he is going on about lowering taxes but where the hell is the money gonna come from to do that? At last Obama has admitted he is going to raise taxes and some people and cut it on others... his plans to end this tragedy in the share markets are so much more substantial than McCain. People tend to be following him because they cant believe Obama is as good as he says, so they go into the rubbish one because at least he can meet his demands.
This man is so typical white trash its unbelievable, he hates gay people, he is 100% behind the war and he doesnt respect our troops. He cant stand on his own 2 feet and he needs a team of people around him to help him out in situations.

I personally dont trust him, and if he became president, the whole of America would be in SUCH a mess, the country wouldnt change (Which it needs) and it will just be going in a downward spiral until someone decided it was time to help out. Obama is for change and thats what the country needs.

And to answer the post above about gay marriage, neither are technically for it, as its not down to the president to make such a law its down to the individual states. Obama mentioned he will try his best and is all for it though, McCain on the other hand is just like George Bush and is against gay marriage. When confronted on the Ellen Chat show, he tended to avoid answering her question.

[Ruth]

Spike - what do you think about the McCain fans who have been shouting "Kill him" about Obama? Personally I think anyone who makes such threats - no matter what their political affiliation - is bang out of order.

As soon as I read your post, I went onto about 7 different polls. All of them have Obama winning, with various amounts of electoral votes.

McCain can win Ohio. He can win Florida. He has to do a heck of a lot more than that to have a chance of winning the election. I'm not as scared of him winning as I am of Palin. You would think that considering how much she bangs on about her foreign policy experience (apparently based on the fact that she can see Russia out of her window), she would have known who the Russian president is. But no. She got that wrong. You would think that she would know that the President does not control the Senate. But no. She got that wrong. You would think that she would know that the UN is not American land, but neutral ground. But no. She got that wrong. I despair.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Ruth
Spike - what do you think about the McCain fans who have been shouting "Kill him" about Obama? Personally I think anyone who makes such threats - no matter what their political affiliation - is bang out of order.

I agree, its bang out of order and these people are a disgrace to the Republican Campaign. These people have to realise that McCain is currently going to lose and they aren't helping him.

[Ruth]

Truth is, McCain wanted to be the GOP candidate in 2000. And he should have been - he was far more centralist then than he is now, and he would have made a better President than Bush (admittedly that's not saying a lot). Don't get me wrong - Gore was my pick in 2000; I so wanted him to win - and the Presidency was stolen from him. Gore would have made a bloody good President, and I still get angry when I think about the whole Florida debacle. If McCain had been the GOP candidate in 2000, he almost certainly would have won the Presidency with quite a large margin - it would not have gone down to the wire, as it did with Gore and Bush. But I believe McCain has had his day. He did not get the nomination then, and now it's too late. I don't think McCain is a bad man (although I believe that Palin is a bad woman), but I just can't get on board with his beliefs and his policies. I don't believe that Obama is the second coming or anything like that. But what it comes down to is this: the next President will be either Barack Obama or John McCain. And I would rather take Barack Obama than John McCain. Simple as. Neither of them are perfect, because they are human. But I would rather take Barack with his human faults, than McCain with his human faults.

McCain and Obama actually get on quite well behind the scenes. McCain and Biden are good friends! But they happen to disagree on their policies. I like Biden - I think he will make a good VP. I do not believe Palin will make a good VP, no way, no how. Many of her own party don't believe it; and even her own mother in law has said that she is not qualified for the job, and that she (the mother in law) is voting for Obama!!

Sorry if I'm rambling - it's late, and I have had a few glasses of red wine!

[Z]

Originally posted by Ruth
I still get angry when I think about the whole Florida debacle.

Me too! It was such a blatant display of discrimination against black people! That whole election stank of corruption.

I'm glad to see Obama pulling ahead in polls, I really hope that he gets into power. I can't believe how soon it is 'til we find out who is going to be the next president of the USA!

[Ruth]

Anchorage is the biggest town in Alaska (Palin's home state). Anchorage Daily News is endorsing Obama. Bit of a kick in the teeth for Palin.

She has also upset a lot of her Republican supporters, because in the middle of the 'credit crunch' she keeps banging on about being a normal American just like them, and how she understands the difficulties they face at this time of economic downturn. So they are a bit peed off that she has spent $150,000 on new clothes since being named VP nominee.

I am surprised that nobody has mentioned her husband Todd's affiliation with the AIP - Alaskan Independence Party. He was a member of this group for 7 years - a group who wanted Alaska to be separate from the rest of the US, and who declared the US government their enemy. A group who less than two years ago, Sarah Palin gave a big shout out to during a speech, when she told them to "keep up the good work."

[Z]

I just don't understand why McCain chose Sarah Palin, of all people. He clearly didn't think that one through. I understand his logic, he wanted an attractive "Mom" who would soak up the non-Party affiliated female voters who would have voted for Clinton, but he's picked a woman who's a borderline religious zealot. She's not well informed about a lot of policy areas, and she's been shown up in speeches because of the gaps in her knowledge. Why has he chosen her as his running mate? I don't get it.

[Ruth]

As things currently stand, Obama has an average of over 300 electoral votes (he needs 270 to win). He is also leading in 5 out of the 6 toss up states - but the way things are, he could lose all of the toss up states and still win the election. Currently there is a 95.7% chance that Obama will win:colour:

[Rory]

I'll be running. Just fill in my name on the "fill in" ballot.
Thank you!

[Spike]

I never thought I would say this but I am starting to like Obama and I kinda want him to win

[Bells]

He's definitely likeable. All I worry about is that this public front some voters have won't last too long. Can we really trust polls? By that I mean... they may well say they fully support Obama now in order to look like they support change, but when it comes to the actual voting itself, perhaps they won't be able to bring themselves to vote for a Barack Obama.

This is what I've heard some people say, and I have to admit I agree to an extent - as much as it scares me. It's happened before, after all - e.g. with Harold Washington and Tom Bradley. And with others, such as Douglas Wilder and David Dinkins... they were leading by many points to start with, but then only narrowly gained victory. It's just a bit worrying.

[Spike]

I think its going to be alot closer than anyone thinks and it could go either way. One of them will just edge it and at the moment I think it will be McCain

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Spike
I think its going to be alot closer than anyone thinks and it could go either way. One of them will just edge it and at the moment I think it will be McCain

McCain is losing his chance by the day.

To get a more accurate look at the polls, you need to look at the state by state polls, rather than the overall ones. Obama is clearly pulling ahead. I do believe it will be a lot closer on the night than it currently looks, but I still think Obama will win. Even top Republican supporters and staunch Republicans like Carl Rove are predicting an easy win for Obama.

Ash - I understand exactly what you are saying. However, the people who wouldn't vote for Obama for that reason would probably not vote for a Democrat anyway.

Obama could easily lose most of the toss up states and still win the election. This election will be decided on electoral votes, not the 'popular' vote.

[Ruth]

For anyone interested in the election, this is a cool little site....

fivethirtyeight (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/)

[James]

Here is a list of other candidates (i.e not Democrat or Republican) standing in this election...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_party_(United_States)_presidential_candidate s,_2008

[Ruth]

Another interesting site here:

RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/)

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Ash
He's definitely likeable. All I worry about is that this public front some voters have won't last too long. Can we really trust polls? By that I mean... they may well say they fully support Obama now in order to look like they support change, but when it comes to the actual voting itself, perhaps they won't be able to bring themselves to vote for a Barack Obama.

This is what I've heard some people say, and I have to admit I agree to an extent - as much as it scares me. It's happened before, after all - e.g. with Harold Washington and Tom Bradley. And with others, such as Douglas Wilder and David Dinkins... they were leading by many points to start with, but then only narrowly gained victory. It's just a bit worrying.

I think he would have more of a challenge if his opponent (for want of a better word) was the incumbent President, which of course is not the case here.

The Bradley Effect is kind of negated by the amount of people who have said that they will vote for Obama purely because he is black (just to make it clear - I don't agree with voting or not voting for anyone based on their skin colour alone), so there will undoubtedly be some who won't vote for Obama because he is black, but times have changed since the Bradley days and the Washington days (although I am not pretending that true equality truly exists), and these days, positive discrimination comes more into play. And as I said earlier, a lot of voters have said that they will be voting for Obama because of his colour.

[Ruth]

If McCain wins two thirds of the undecided voters (and he is unlikely to win that many), it will still only amount to one point in the polls. I don't see McCain winning this - no way, no how. Especially not now that there is a load of infighting in the Republican camp. They are not at all happy with Palin. I bet McCain is wishing he had thought his choice of running partner through a lot more carefully.

[Bells]

Originally posted by Ruth
I think he would have more of a challenge if his opponent (for want of a better word) was the incumbent President, which of course is not the case here.

The Bradley Effect is kind of negated by the amount of people who have said that they will vote for Obama purely because he is black (just to make it clear - I don't agree with voting or not voting for anyone based on their skin colour alone), so there will undoubtedly be some who won't vote for Obama because he is black, but times have changed since the Bradley days and the Washington days (although I am not pretending that true equality truly exists), and these days, positive discrimination comes more into play. And as I said earlier, a lot of voters have said that they will be voting for Obama because of his colour.

What I find interesting is that he even refers to himself as "black" despite having a white-American mother. I guess to an extent because he married an African-American woman as well, his own children are more black than he is.

But I definitely hope you're right. I can still see his popularity edging it, particularly because times have changed, but perhaps not by the same margin we expected. And I'm so glad he was sensible and picked a running mate like Joe Biden as opposed to the whole McCain/Palin publicity stunt which people are still supporting.

[Ruth]

Exit polls in those states where early voting is allowed are looking very favourable for Obama:dance:

[Spike]

I can't believe the election is nearly here, I am really looking forward to it and for the results to come in now even though I am probably supporting the loser.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Im am really excited! Ive never followed the US election this closely, Ive always been pleased when a democrat gets elected especially after a bush administration Jnr and Snr!!! I've got a real sense of hope in my heart for once:bigsmile:

[Spike]

Can't believe the election is tomorrow after such a long wait
Good luck to both men and let the best man win in an election which could either be really close or a land slide to Obama if that makes sense
Very sad news about Obama's grandmother, it would have been nice for her to have been alive for election day and possibly see Obama win

[JOSHUAH!]

I hope Obama wins, that would be wonderful after his Grandmother dying. I don't even live in the US but I really want Obama to win, McCain just seems so backwards and old, and Palin is just not experienced enough. Obama acts and looks like a president, and it would be a massive step if a Black man was elected as president. I just hope all of his supporters don't back down at the last minute and decide to vote for McCain.

[Spike]

Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
I hope Obama wins, that would be wonderful after his Grandmother dying. I don't even live in the US but I really want Obama to win, McCain just seems so backwards and old, and Palin is just not experienced enough. Obama acts and looks like a president, and it would be a massive step if a Black man was elected as president. I just hope all of his supporters don't back down at the last minute and decide to vote for McCain.

Actually Palin is alot more experienced than Obama
and I don't like race being thrown into the mix. Who cares if the president is white or black as long as he does a great job. I agree with what someone said on C4 news earlier that black people shouldn't vote for Obama because he is black the same that white people shouldn't vote against him for the same reasons. I do think when it is crunch time some people will vote for McCain after saying they will vote for Obama or that they were undecided.
I do think it will be alot closer than everyone expects and one of them will just edge it

[JOSHUAH!]

Spike you seem a lot more clued up on all this, its just what I've read and heard which makes me think Palin isn't as experienced.
I do agree with you theres a lot more in this contest than everyone is thinking though.

[Magic]

Originally posted by Ruth
Exit polls in those states where early voting is allowed are looking very favourable for Obama:dance:

Yesss!

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
I hope Obama wins, that would be wonderful after his Grandmother dying. I don't even live in the US but I really want Obama to win, McCain just seems so backwards and old, and Palin is just not experienced enough. Obama acts and looks like a president, and it would be a massive step if a Black man was elected as president. I just hope all of his supporters don't back down at the last minute and decide to vote for McCain.

Actually Palin is alot more experienced than Obama
and I don't like race being thrown into the mix. Who cares if the president is white or black as long as he does a great job. I agree with what someone said on C4 news earlier that black people shouldn't vote for Obama because he is black the same that white people shouldn't vote against him for the same reasons. I do think when it is crunch time some people will vote for McCain after saying they will vote for Obama or that they were undecided.
I do think it will be alot closer than everyone expects and one of them will just edge it

Yeah I had a feeling that McCain could pick up some unexpected votes during the election.

[Scarlett.]

Obama deserves to win, USA needs a new age President, not go back to the same old ways of George Bush

Obama ftw!

[Mark]

I've been betting up all the locks, at the current rate im making £93 for every £1000 bet.

Doesn't sound like much relative, but some states are essentially 100%

It's gonna be a long next day or two :whistle:

[Blink_Me]

How has McCain been allowed to run for President, is beyond me. The guy is clueless who relies so much on Bush's ideas. His VP pick was stupid. Palin was purely brought in for her looks and charm.

[Scarlett.]

I just read Obama's grandma died, shame she wont get to see him become President:sad:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Palin experienced? Where has it got her? Shes as thick as pig ****. She doesnt know anything about economics, she thinks because she lives near Russia that qualifies her to be an expert on foreign policy. Look at some of her interviews she hasnt a clue! She didnt even know what the bush Doctrine meant!

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Chewy
I just read Obama's grandma died, shame she wont get to see him become President:sad:

Have seen him crying in front of everyone ? That's sick, vulgar and no way classy from him. He would do anything to get more votes even involving his family life.
R.I.P. to his grandma.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Chewy
I just read Obama's grandma died, shame she wont get to see him become President:sad:

Have seen him crying in front of everyone ? That's sick, vulgar and no way classy from him. He would do anything to get more votes even involving his family life.
R.I.P. to his grandma.

thats just unfounded venom

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Chewy
I just read Obama's grandma died, shame she wont get to see him become President:sad:

Have seen him crying in front of everyone ? That's sick, vulgar and no way classy from him. He would do anything to get more votes even involving his family life.
R.I.P. to his grandma.

thats just unfounded venom

Nope, that's true. I can't deny he is sad because of course he is, but he could have had a bit more dignity not to cry in front of everyone, it's something SO personal. I just can't understand that kind of behaviour.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Chewy
I just read Obama's grandma died, shame she wont get to see him become President:sad:

Have seen him crying in front of everyone ? That's sick, vulgar and no way classy from him. He would do anything to get more votes even involving his family life.
R.I.P. to his grandma.

thats just unfounded venom

Nope, that's true. I can't deny he is sad because of course he is, but he could have had a bit more dignity not to cry in front of everyone, it's something SO personal. I just can't understand that kind of behaviour.

perhaps he coulnt contain his emotions as someone close had DIED

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : NettoSuperstar!

perhaps he coulnt contain his emotions as someone close had DIED

When you are in front of thousands of people, you try not to appear weak...but I forgot it was a strategy. :rolleyes:
It's not an expected behaviour from a politician.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : NettoSuperstar!

perhaps he coulnt contain his emotions as someone close had DIED

When you are in front of thousands of people, you try not to appear weak...but I forgot it was a strategy. :rolleyes:
It's not an expected behaviour from a politician.

Crying when your Grandma has just died and wont see you possibly win the presidential election is not weak or shouldnt be considered as appearing weak, it is perfectly understandable given the weeks of campaigning hes done and the exhaustion emtionally and physically he must be feeling anyway! Doesnt matter where or who you happen to be! But you just dont like the man so Im not listening to your unfounded bile anymore. and if he'd made a massive deal about his Grandma dying I might agree with you but he hasnt, the media have.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : NettoSuperstar!

perhaps he coulnt contain his emotions as someone close had DIED

When you are in front of thousands of people, you try not to appear weak...but I forgot it was a strategy. :rolleyes:
It's not an expected behaviour from a politician.

Crying when your Grandma has just died is not weak! Doesnt matter where or who you happen to be! But you just hate the man so Im not listening to your unfounded bile anymore

I don't hate him, I don't hate Mc Cain either.. I don't care about who wins, seriously. And don't take my words out of the context: I never said crying is weak, I said that, as a politician you must be strong and focussed...but obviously it's a plan to bring more votes. And hopefully I'm not the only saying it.

Good luck to both of them, they'll need some for the next 4 yearq.

[Chri$]

The Polls have Opend!

[Sunny_01]

Whoop whoop now it's for the people to decide. C'mon Obama :colour:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Obama winning in early voting towns in New Hampshire:cheer2:

[Sunny_01]

That has made me so happy to hear that, I know it is early but a good indication.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
That has made me so happy to hear that, I know it is early but a good indication.

Yeh and apparently theyve been republican since 1968:thumbs:

[Ruth]

I'm writing this from Rhode Island - we went with our friends to vote today (well, we couldn't but we waited outside their polling station while they voted). The folks here reckon it will be a landslide win for Obama - McCain is expected to struggle to even get 200 electoral votes. Being here is very exciting and we are really soaking up the atmosphere.

Even the Republican analysts and experts are predicting a huge win for Obama:colour:

[Spike]

The outcome of the election will be more clear after the Pennsylvania result comes in
If McCain wins there then it could be an upset but if Obama wins then he has won the election

[Scarlett.]

Come on Obama!
He has gotta win this

[Jen]

America does not deserve another Four Years of Idiocy..

Obama must win...

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by JDIZZEL
America does not deserve another Four Years of Idiocy..

Obama must win...
To quote you

ILY:lovedup:

Mccain is just another President, Obama is something special (and no, Im not just saying that with the colour of his skin)

[Princess]

Obama has to win!

[Chri$]

There are Text's being sent around saying that Voting is called until tomorrow to stop people from voting! :mad:

Obama 2 Win!

[Spike]

I think i'm the only one on here who wants McCain to win, but as usual I am on the losing side

[Sam!]

Well he is a dull old man :yuk:

[Locke.]

I'll be up watching this all night, its between 1-6 right?

[Jen]

Originally posted by David
I'll be up watching this all night, its between 1-6 right?

Yeah.. I think so...
Can't wait!

[Chri$]

On CNN right now it sead that some voting machines have been tampered with :bored:

[Callum]

Good luck Obama.

[JOSHUAH!]

Originally posted by Chri$
On CNN right now it sead that some voting machines have been tampered with :bored:

I had a bad feeling this would happen, or something like this :bored:

Good Luck Obama, lets hope you win!

[Rory]

Originally posted by Spike
I think i'm the only one on here who wants McCain to win, but as usual I am on the losing side
Don't worry, I'm with you.

I find it funny how some people just post on here that they're supporting Obama, but give no reason to back it up. (Preferably...)

Originally posted by Scampi
Well he is a dull old man :yuk:

Would his age make a difference? It's his views that will change America.

Obviously I have more conservative views, and I believe that people should work hard for what they get. If Obama wins, America will turn into a socialist country. (But, of course, he'll probably win)

I know one minority who won't be voting Obama: the Cubans. The last time they heard change was Fidel Castro. :hugesmile:

I would've liked Ron Paul or Mitt Romney to be the Republican Candidate, because I think even McCain has too liberal views for the republican party.

My biggest issue was immigration, which McCain supports granting citizenship to illegal immigrants. :rolleyes: (Obviously Obama does as well) To be honest, seeing herds of Mexicans on the street being picked up for construction is what infuriates me. Illegal immigrants stealing jobs that could be going to legal immigrants, and obviously getting paid a considerable amount lower

I have a few other issues with Crime & Punishment and Taxes, but I just wont get into that.

Let's hope you guys know the equivalents instead of just supporting Barack because he's black and McCain's old:
Republicans are the Conservative Party.
Democrats are the Labour Party.

Go Spike. :thumbs:

[Chri$]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XW1JPqlhQ

Chris Crocker has strong Opinions.

[JOSHUAH!]

ITV just said they 'project'
Obama has won Vermont
McCain has won Kentucky

[Tom4784]

Come on Obama! They can't let that backwards yokel Harpy anywhere near the whitehouse!

[JOSHUAH!]

McCain has 8 points so far
Obama has 3

[Loukas]

Good Luck to both parties! I am s*** with stuff like this!! :joker:

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Rory
Originally posted by Spike
I think i'm the only one on here who wants McCain to win, but as usual I am on the losing side
Don't worry, I'm with you.

I find it funny how some people just post on here that they're supporting Obama, but give no reason to back it up. (Preferably...)

Originally posted by Scampi
Well he is a dull old man :yuk:

Would his age make a difference? It's his views that will change America.

Obviously I have more conservative views, and I believe that people should work hard for what they get. If Obama wins, America will turn into a socialist country. (But, of course, he'll probably win)

I know one minority who won't be voting Obama: the Cubans. The last time they heard change was Fidel Castro. :hugesmile:

I would've liked Ron Paul or Mitt Romney to be the Republican Candidate, because I think even McCain has too liberal views for the republican party.

My biggest issue was immigration, which McCain supports granting citizenship to illegal immigrants. :rolleyes: (Obviously Obama does as well) To be honest, seeing herds of Mexicans on the street being picked up for construction is what infuriates me. Illegal immigrants stealing jobs that could be going to legal immigrants, and obviously getting paid a considerable amount lower

I have a few other issues with Crime & Punishment and Taxes, but I just wont get into that.

Let's hope you guys know the equivalents instead of just supporting Barack because he's black and McCain's old:
Republicans are the Conservative Party.
Democrats are the Labour Party.

Go Spike. :thumbs:

It was SPIKE who said he wouldn't give a reason as to why he supported McCain!!!!

[Scarlett.]

McCain 16
Obama 3
:mad:

[Loukas]

McCain wins South Carolina

16 - McCain
3 - Obama

[Ruth]

Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
McCain has 8 points so far
Obama has 3

Yes, but all that means is that so far they have won one state each. McCain has won Kentucky (which he was always going to win), which has 8 electoral votes.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Chewy
McCain 16
Obama 3
:mad:

Don't worry - McCain has won two states which he was always expected to win. That's all.

Obama is currently leading in Florida.

[Scarlett.]

Ah good, Obama needs to win this, I thought he was way behind lol

[JOSHUAH!]

On Sky it says
Obama 3
McCain 21

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Rory
Originally posted by Spike
I think i'm the only one on here who wants McCain to win, but as usual I am on the losing side
Don't worry, I'm with you.

I find it funny how some people just post on here that they're supporting Obama, but give no reason to back it up. (Preferably...)

Originally posted by Scampi
Well he is a dull old man :yuk:

Would his age make a difference? It's his views that will change America.

Obviously I have more conservative views, and I believe that people should work hard for what they get. If Obama wins, America will turn into a socialist country. (But, of course, he'll probably win)

I know one minority who won't be voting Obama: the Cubans. The last time they heard change was Fidel Castro. :hugesmile:

I would've liked Ron Paul or Mitt Romney to be the Republican Candidate, because I think even McCain has too liberal views for the republican party.

My biggest issue was immigration, which McCain supports granting citizenship to illegal immigrants. :rolleyes: (Obviously Obama does as well) To be honest, seeing herds of Mexicans on the street being picked up for construction is what infuriates me. Illegal immigrants stealing jobs that could be going to legal immigrants, and obviously getting paid a considerable amount lower

I have a few other issues with Crime & Punishment and Taxes, but I just wont get into that.

Let's hope you guys know the equivalents instead of just supporting Barack because he's black and McCain's old:
Republicans are the Conservative Party.
Democrats are the Labour Party.

Go Spike. :thumbs:

How insulting for you to suggest that people are just supporting Obama because he is black. And yes, people know which parties in the UK are the equivalent to the US parties. We are not stupid just because we disagree with you.

And I don't know how many times people have to be told this - Obama is NOT a socialist. The people who are calling him that either don't know what socialism is, or they don't really know Obama's policies.

Signing off now. I am in the US, where the country is gripped by election fever.

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
On Sky it says
Obama 3
McCain 21
ITV is still 16
BBC is too

[Ross]

McCain has to win, come on!

I'm so excited!!

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by Rory
Originally posted by Spike
I think i'm the only one on here who wants McCain to win, but as usual I am on the losing side
Don't worry, I'm with you.

I find it funny how some people just post on here that they're supporting Obama, but give no reason to back it up. (Preferably...)

Originally posted by Scampi
Well he is a dull old man :yuk:

Would his age make a difference? It's his views that will change America.

Obviously I have more conservative views, and I believe that people should work hard for what they get. If Obama wins, America will turn into a socialist country. (But, of course, he'll probably win)

I know one minority who won't be voting Obama: the Cubans. The last time they heard change was Fidel Castro. :hugesmile:

I would've liked Ron Paul or Mitt Romney to be the Republican Candidate, because I think even McCain has too liberal views for the republican party.

My biggest issue was immigration, which McCain supports granting citizenship to illegal immigrants. :rolleyes: (Obviously Obama does as well) To be honest, seeing herds of Mexicans on the street being picked up for construction is what infuriates me. Illegal immigrants stealing jobs that could be going to legal immigrants, and obviously getting paid a considerable amount lower

I have a few other issues with Crime & Punishment and Taxes, but I just wont get into that.

Let's hope you guys know the equivalents instead of just supporting Barack because he's black and McCain's old:
Republicans are the Conservative Party.
Democrats are the Labour Party.

Go Spike. :thumbs:

How insulting for you to suggest that people are just supporting Obama because he is black. And yes, people know which parties in the UK are the equivalent to the US parties. We are not stupid just because we disagree with you.

And I don't know how many times people have to be told this - Obama is NOT a socialist. The people who are calling him that either don't know what socialism is, or they don't really know Obama's policies.

Signing off now. I am in the US, where the country is gripped by election fever. Aye, I too am tired of people playing the "because he is black" card, Obama is a clever guy, you can tell, McCain is just well, "Old school"

[Novo]

obama FTW

[Ross]

McCain is so going to win this.

[JOSHUAH!]

YES!
On CNN, about 15 states have just closed, and they are saying Obama has won all but two! :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

[JOSHUAH!]

MCCAIN: 34
OBAMA: 77

[Ruth]

Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
MCCAIN: 34
OBAMA: 77
Looks like Obama has Pennsylvania!!!! And projected to win Florida!!!

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Ross
McCain is so going to win this.

I wouldn't bet on it!:wink:

[Scarlett.]

OBAMA!!!!!!!!!

[Dan_]

McCain: 34
Obama: 88

[Ross]

STUPID ITV I HATE U

[Scarlett.]

ITV's is messed up as it says McCain is ahead

[Dan_]

Anyone know what time the final result is due to be announced?

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Chewy
ITV's is messed up as it says McCain is ahead Its changed to Obama being ahead

[Novo]

mcain has lost already

[Ross]

McCain for Florida, pleaseeeeee!

[Scarlett.]

Well I guess....John McCain is now
Under Barack Obama
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[Chri$]

I hope Obama wins Florida

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Chri$
I hope Obama wins Florida

[Blink_Me]

McCain has all but lost now. He needed to win PA to stand a chance of winning this.

President Obama it is then.

[Chri$]

Loads of Celebs are Behind Obama like Perez Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Chris Crocker, Jennifer Aniston, Oprah and George Clooney.

Obama 2 Win

[Chri$]

For Florida so far...

McCain 47%

Obama - 53%

[Scarlett.]

President Obama, I like it :spin2:
He is just what the world needs IMO

[Ross]

President McCain, oh yes.

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by Chri$
For Florida so far...

McCain 47%

Obama - 53%

If he does win Florida, it's definitely over.

[JOSHUAH!]

LMAO!
A 'Republican Strategist' is being interviewed on ITV and shes already speaking as if Obama has won. She said "We were just out done this year, Obama simply had more money than us"

Thats optimism for you.. :shocked:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Blink_Me
Originally posted by Chri$
For Florida so far...

McCain 47%

Obama - 53%

If he does win Florida, it's definitely over. Awesome :hello:

President Obama ftw!

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
LMAO!
A 'Republican Strategist' is being interviewed on ITV and shes already speaking as if Obama has won. She said "We were just out done this year, Obama simply had more money than us"

Thats optimism for you.. :shocked: I noticed ITV is being bias, they seem to support the Republicans

Then again, this isnt strictly news, and they are presenting all the info correctly

[Ross]

...I just want people to know, I will still be happy if Obama wins, I just agreed with more of McCains debate.

Just so you know I'm not all "OMG AMERICA SUCKS IF OBAMA WINS!"

Both will be great presidents.

[JOSHUAH!]

CNN just said Obama wins New Hampshire

They are saying
Obama 81
McCain 34

Although, ITV, BBC and some others are saying Obama is on 103.

[Scarlett.]

I think ITV and the BBC are right, as the get their stuff from ABC (BBC) and NBC (ITV)

[Scarlett.]

McCain has won Georgia (I think)

[Scarlett.]

McCain - 58
Obama - 103

[Chri$]

NEW Florida Results so Far.........

McCain 45%

Obama 52%

[JOSHUAH!]

In Florida Obama is ahead by 178,000 votes, 52%

North Carolina, Obama is ahead by 56%


PENNYSYLVANIA WON BY OBAMA :cheer2: Said so on CNN!

[Blink_Me]

McCain is getting smashed.

[Wildcat!]

It look like a blow out!

[Scarlett.]

We need some more results, ya know, just to back up what we already know :laugh:

[JOSHUAH!]

OBAMA CARRIES 5 STATES

OBAMA on 174

McCAIN on 49
:banana:

[Dan_]

McCain-52
Obama-174

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
OBAMA CARRIES 5 STATES

OBAMA on 174

McCAIN on 49
:banana: If thats true
then its
PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!!

[Dan_]

Fox have called Ohio for Obama, key state there.

[Christina]

Originally posted by Blink_Me
McCain is getting smashed.

[JOSHUAH!]

Originally posted by Chewy
Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
OBAMA CARRIES 5 STATES

OBAMA on 174

McCAIN on 49
:banana: If thats true
then its
PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!!

Said so on CNN Chewy! Big American TV network, I doubt they'd be wrong :hello: