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Tom
18-10-2008, 10:03 PM
Shes done two performances that I knew weren't so good and I knew there was a lot more in there. After tonights she did deserve to be in the bottom 2, there was nothing special. But after her performance of Purple Rain I think thats done more than just get her through the sing off, I think that has put her firmly back in the competition and she seemed to gain a lot of crowd support from that. The second one was clearly the best of the night.

Hopefully she'll up her game next week and get herself properly back in the running.

Matt
18-10-2008, 10:04 PM
Her performance of Purple Rain was fantastic. I hope we see more of this Ruth.

It would have been a travesty if she was lost to girlband.

Benjamin
18-10-2008, 10:04 PM
I reckon that too. It was amazing.

Wildcat!
18-10-2008, 10:05 PM
Well clearly not to avoid a deadlock! SO I dont think so. Girlband were good as well!
Its hard to come out of the bottom, after youve been there! MOst Xfactor fans have their favs and stick to them, they dont even consider the performances most times. SO I dont see her getting more votes!

Callum
18-10-2008, 10:05 PM
Her performance of Purple Rain was sensational.

Bells
18-10-2008, 10:05 PM
I can't believe she was in the bottom 2 to start with. This competition is seriously a close one. Although I'm not a fan of Daniel, I can see where his fanbase comes from - but that's not good news for all the other acts. It just goes to show you can't be sure! I think Ruth has proven now that she is versatile, but it makes her more forgettable... she needs to be unique and come out with a bang next week in order to make people remember her, like she did with this second performance. Simon was actually right in his comments earlier tonight.

Billy
18-10-2008, 10:06 PM
I just wish she';d sing louder :(

Z
18-10-2008, 10:07 PM
I think that all three of the performances she's given in the past two weeks have been great, with the live show one tonight being the worst of the three (in that it was nothing spectacular) but I'm glad she pulled through tonight. I think she'll be fine with Big Band Week, and she should benefit from a vote boost. Hopefully Rachel/Daniel/Scott/Eoghan will be in the bottom two next week, I see them as the weaker contestants in the competition.

Benjamin
18-10-2008, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Billy21
I just wish she';d sing louder :(


she'd been throwing up all day though.

Locke.
18-10-2008, 10:07 PM
She was good but aint_mad_atcha is right, she has her fans who are loyal, so does every other contestant, she wont pick up many more votes.

Killian
18-10-2008, 10:07 PM
After her rendition of Purple Rain, when it went to deadlock -- well, if Ruth was sent home it would have been a travesty. Honest.

Billy
18-10-2008, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by ukturtle
Originally posted by Billy21
I just wish she';d sing louder :(


she'd been throwing up all day though.

last week tooooooooooooo.

XxShortyxX
18-10-2008, 10:11 PM
Ewww is there a bug going round lol.

I thought Ruth last song was amazing!

Tom
18-10-2008, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Well clearly not to avoid a deadlock! SO I dont think so. Girlband were good as well!
Its hard to come out of the bottom, after youve been there! MOst Xfactor fans have their favs and stick to them, they dont even consider the performances most times. SO I dont see her getting more votes!

Noone cares in the first couple of weeks. Hope were immensely popular this time last year, look where they ended up- bottom 2 about 3 or 4 times.

Its weeks 3-6 which are the critical weeks where people really begin to see their favourites and back them. I wouldn't write Ruth off just yet. And it never did Ray any harm being in the bottom 2.

Originally posted by Billy21
I just wish she';d sing louder :(

Thats more due to the sound levels, they play the backing too loud and don't have the mic turned up loud enough. It happens to most of them.

Z
18-10-2008, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Well clearly not to avoid a deadlock! SO I dont think so. Girlband were good as well!
Its hard to come out of the bottom, after youve been there! MOst Xfactor fans have their favs and stick to them, they dont even consider the performances most times. SO I dont see her getting more votes!

Noone cares in the first couple of weeks. Hope were immensely popular this time last year, look where they ended up- bottom 2 about 3 or 4 times.

Its weeks 3-6 which are the critical weeks where people really begin to see their favourites and back them. I wouldn't write Ruth off just yet. And it never did Ray any harm being in the bottom 2.

Originally posted by Billy21
I just wish she';d sing louder :(

Thats more due to the sound levels, they play the backing too loud and don't have the mic turned up loud enough. It happens to most of them.


Very good point - week 3 seems to be a crucial one in the competition, and it's no accident that Big Band is the theme for week 3, because it'll really weed out the average. Ruth will do well next week, and I hope it'll earn her some votes from the floating voters who have no allegiances yet.

Wildcat!
18-10-2008, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Well clearly not to avoid a deadlock! SO I dont think so. Girlband were good as well!
Its hard to come out of the bottom, after youve been there! MOst Xfactor fans have their favs and stick to them, they dont even consider the performances most times. SO I dont see her getting more votes!

Noone cares in the first couple of weeks. Hope were immensely popular this time last year, look where they ended up- bottom 2 about 3 or 4 times.

Its weeks 3-6 which are the critical weeks where people really begin to see their favourites and back them. I wouldn't write Ruth off just yet. And it never did Ray any harm being in the bottom 2.

Originally posted by Billy21
I just wish she';d sing louder :(

Thats more due to the sound levels, they play the backing too loud and don't have the mic turned up loud enough. It happens to most of them.

Exactly! Once they went in the bottom 2, they were back always. So was aleesha! I predict Ruth will be back there very soon if not next week!

Z
18-10-2008, 10:16 PM
But then, aint_mad_atcha, Hope tended to benefit from the vote boost - the week they were in the bottom two with Beverley and it went to deadlock, everyone was so sure they were going, but somehow they had more votes than her, despite having been in the bottom two the week before that.

Red Moon
18-10-2008, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by Callum
Her performance of Purple Rain was sensational.

I agree it was wonderful and showed what she can really do.

What got me was hypocritical Simon Cowell. He said before the final sing off that what really mattered was the the decider songs and then he let it go to deadlock. Clearly Ruth nailed purple rain and he didn't put her through because she didn't listen to him.

Well Mr Cowell your not her bloody mentor so bog OFF!

Tom
18-10-2008, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Well clearly not to avoid a deadlock! SO I dont think so. Girlband were good as well!
Its hard to come out of the bottom, after youve been there! MOst Xfactor fans have their favs and stick to them, they dont even consider the performances most times. SO I dont see her getting more votes!

Noone cares in the first couple of weeks. Hope were immensely popular this time last year, look where they ended up- bottom 2 about 3 or 4 times.

Its weeks 3-6 which are the critical weeks where people really begin to see their favourites and back them. I wouldn't write Ruth off just yet. And it never did Ray any harm being in the bottom 2.

Originally posted by Billy21
I just wish she';d sing louder :(

Thats more due to the sound levels, they play the backing too loud and don't have the mic turned up loud enough. It happens to most of them.

Exactly! Once they went in the bottom 2, they were back always. So was aleesha! I predict Ruth will be back there very soon if not next week!

Some have been in the bottom 2 and gone very far in the competition. Alisha was crap, so were Hope. I'm just showing how you can be extremely popular in week 1 and 2 (ie Hope) and do very well in the competition.

Z
18-10-2008, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by Callum
Her performance of Purple Rain was sensational.

I agree it was wonderful and so what she can really do.

What got me was hypocritical Simon Cowell. He said before the the thing that really mattered was the the decider songs and then he let it go to deadlock. Clearly Ruth nailed purple rain and he didn't put her through because she didn't listen to him.

Well Mr Cowell your not her bl***y mentor so bog OFF!

I agree. Plus, how exactly is Ruth meant to perform in Spanish when the show is thematic? There is no opportunity for this under Michael Jackson week, or Big Band week (next week)

I think he needs to back off a little bit, and stop throwing toys out the pram. She doesn't want to typecast herself, IMO.

Bells
18-10-2008, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Red Moon
What got me was hypocritical Simon Cowell. He said before the the thing that really mattered was the the decider songs and then he let it go to deadlock. Clearly Ruth nailed purple rain and he didn't put her through because she didn't listen to him.

Well Mr Cowell your not her bl***y mentor so bog OFF!

:laugh: I have to say though, I was impressed with his comments earlier in the night, since his judgement was spot on. But instead of gloating about it and then not acknowledging how good a performance that was, he should have dealt with the situation better. But that's Simon Cowell for you.

It was just amazing. Her live show performance earlier showed she's versatile, but now she has proven that - she needs to be unique again.

Wildcat!
18-10-2008, 10:22 PM
I guarantee you, she is not gonna survive more than 3 weeks!

She cant compete with Laura and Alex mainly, and she got no fan base. Xfactor is all about fan base!

Z
18-10-2008, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I guarantee you, she is not going to survive more than weeks!

She cant compete with Laura and Alex mainly, and she got no fan base. Xfactor is all about fan base!

True, but I think she'll make it through next week at least, she'll go in either week 4 or 5, sadly.

Tom
18-10-2008, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I guarantee you, she is not going to survive more than 3 weeks!

She cant compete with Laura and Alex mainly, and she got no fan base. Xfactor is all about fan base!

How do you know she hasn't just made new fans after that performance? And how do you know Laura and Alex actually have a fan base? You're just assuming. For all we know they could have third and fourth from the bottom and I actually think one of them will make a shock exit in the next 4 weeks.

Killian
18-10-2008, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Well clearly not to avoid a deadlock! SO I dont think so. Girlband were good as well!
Its hard to come out of the bottom, after youve been there! MOst Xfactor fans have their favs and stick to them, they dont even consider the performances most times. SO I dont see her getting more votes!

Noone cares in the first couple of weeks. Hope were immensely popular this time last year, look where they ended up- bottom 2 about 3 or 4 times.

Its weeks 3-6 which are the critical weeks where people really begin to see their favourites and back them. I wouldn't write Ruth off just yet. And it never did Ray any harm being in the bottom 2.

Originally posted by Billy21
I just wish she';d sing louder :(

Thats more due to the sound levels, they play the backing too loud and don't have the mic turned up loud enough. It happens to most of them.

Leona was already the winner once her series' Big Band Night was over. Dayum, I still remember watching that on TV for the first time. My jaw dropped, it was that good.

Red Moon
18-10-2008, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Z
True, but I think she'll make it through next week at least, she'll go in either week 4 or 5, sadly.

It will be very sad if she goes. She is one of the better singers and has a lot of potential and has a lot to give in the show and should make the final 6.

What I don't think is in her favor is the group she is in. She only missed the girls group by one year, but she is classed as a oldie by the younger voters and you can't get away from that. Cowell might she the show isn't ageist but if that was the case they would have a oldies group!

Another hypocritical statement by the detox man.

Sorry I thought Cowell was a good judge by my estimation of him has gone down tonight.

Loukas
18-10-2008, 10:31 PM
She is amazing. AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING!!!! Next week, if she sings like she sung purple rain tonight. She is threw. If she sings like that every week, watch out Diana, watch out Laura, Ruth is here.

I have never seen a performer perform like ruth did with purple rain! ******* ME!! She EXPLODED with passion!! :lovedup:

Red Moon
18-10-2008, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by Ash
:laugh: I have to say though, I was impressed with his comments earlier in the night, since his judgement was spot on. But instead of gloating about it and then not acknowledging how good a performance that was, he should have dealt with the situation better. But that's Simon Cowell for you.

It was just amazing. Her live show performance earlier showed she's versatile, but now she has proven that - she needs to be unique again.

Cowell is often right with his comments because people vote based on his comments a lot of the time. He has more power than people think because he is respected. What he showed tonight was that people should challenge his idea's more, because some of them are wrong.

I don't think the problem with Ruth's first performance had anything to do with singing in spanish, it had more to do with the fact she started out weakly and lost the audience and although she ended strongly it was too late. And that is understandable given she was throwing up in the morning and must still have been shaky.

I agree he did gloat on the situation and he did handle it badly. He knew Girlband weren't as good as Ruth in both performances, and I sure he had an idea Ruth would survive. He wanted to teach her a lesson.

That is horrible, it is a form of bullying and shows what he can really be like.

andybigbro
18-10-2008, 10:47 PM
I think Ruths Sing Off song was AMAZING!

She did an awsome job, Well Deserved stay!!!

Red Moon
18-10-2008, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by andybigbro
I think Ruths Sing Off song was AMAZING!

She did an awsome job, Well Deserved stay!!!

Agreed but I'm having an having anti Simon day.......

Shame someone who proclaims to know the music business, risked her staying so he could score cheap points against the other judges.

It bitchy behavior, and he risks of turning the x-factor into a cat fight rather than a show to find a star of the future.

Z
18-10-2008, 11:06 PM
I think Louis Walsh really wound Simon up tonight, and he got his revenge by putting Ruth (and Girl Band) through unnecessary torture. Ruth was clearly better than Girl Band in the sing off (and on the live show) yet Simon took it to Deadlock. I just don't get why he's so keen for her to sing in Spanish, when there are absolutely no opportunities for her to do so, and when she would alienate voters if she's singing in a different language! Being bilingual is a talent, but there's no place for it on TXF IMO.

Emzy-!!
18-10-2008, 11:28 PM
Her performance was Excellent. And I love Purple Rain!!!!

Come on Ruth!!!!! :hello::hello:

Red Moon
18-10-2008, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Z
I think Louis Walsh really wound Simon up tonight, and he got his revenge by putting Ruth (and Girl Band) through unnecessary torture. Ruth was clearly better than Girl Band in the sing off (and on the live show) yet Simon took it to Deadlock. I just don't get why he's so keen for her to sing in Spanish, when there are absolutely no opportunities for her to do so, and when she would alienate voters if she's singing in a different language! Being bilingual is a talent, but there's no place for it on TXF IMO.

I agree. I can't see the point in her singing in spanish, if she wanted to do that she would have been on the spanish version of the x-factor.

If she sings in spanish every week, people are just going to think it's that girl that can sing in spanish again. They won't notice the power and emotion in her voice it will all be lost. It is will lose it's impact. It will become boring because the audience a won't understand word she is singing and they will lose the meaning behind the song.

Okay it's sexy to a point, but it's not something that will win you x-factor.

In any case she is more than a spanish set of boobs. She is a person. A human being with talent.

I think that Simon is so out to win he will say anything make the other judges contestants look rubbish and give them bad advice.

I use to think the X-Factor was better than the American Idol format but now I'm starting to think maybe the people in the states have it right.

DON'T let the judges coach the singers and groups. Leave that to appointed and unseen mentors.

Annie
19-10-2008, 02:35 PM
Purple Rain - best performance of this years X Factor so far.

rayheartbliss
19-10-2008, 02:40 PM
i think simon's point is that she will just blend in with the rest..rather than become just ruth!

buh her performance purple rain i thought proved simon wrong....
buh hes still got a point

Lewis.
19-10-2008, 02:42 PM
Her purple rain was the best performance of the series so far i would say.!

Tom
19-10-2008, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Annie
Purple Rain - best performance of this years X Factor so far.

I think it blows all the performances from last year out of the water as well. Best one probably since Leona at some point.