I'll probably get mauled for this...

[Killian]

But Diana's voice isn't natural at all. It's put on and I find that unfortunate -- she's imitating Damien Rice's style to a tee and I just wish she'd find some way to make it her own without sounding like she's ripping him off. When people call her 'original', it just frustrates me because she by far wasn't the first to do -- nor will she be the last.

EDIT: She reminds me of Lisa Hannigan. Look her up on YouTube.

[Locke.]

:rolleyes:

[XxShortyxX]

Her voice is very unique, I luv her voice, is isn't as strong as Laura's or Alex's, but she has a lovely voice, she was by far the best tonight.

[Spike]

I'm not her biggest fan but she is unique and deserves to get far

[Wildcat!]

What funny is people think she is unique! She is such a copycat

To me she is exactly like Dolores O'Riordan, if youve never see her sing! you tube it

[Arneldo]

I think it is the most pure, the most unique, the most beautiful of the competition.

[Tom]

I like her but her voice sounds like shes got a blocked nose. Shes not original, pretending to be original makes you an even bigger copy than Alexandra singing Whitney.

[Bells]

She's unique on TXF though, and she's just like a breath of fresh air. It's easy to forget how young she is. She's very likeable and has tonnes of potential... it's great to see someone so talented on TXF who is also sweet, and has a different style.

[hannah.]

I agree! Thank god someone feels the same way

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by hannahhhh
I agree! Thank god someone feels the same way

For once, mer and you agree a lot about something!:blush2:

But I think only 2 or 3 people dare say this on this forum!

[Locke.]

She's like marmite :thumbs: (as this thread has proven)

[Sean19]

Lauras voice pisses me off .. too much .. its strained when she does all her vibratos and stuff and that horrible .. nose thing she does .. she cant win !!
Diana is easily the best there but i see why people say about her .. she still shud win it

[hannah.]

she has a lovely voice, but I don't know why she does that nasal thing. Like last week- WITH OR WITHOUOU YHHHNEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWW

[XxShortyxX]

Again, Laura has an unique voice, that girl can defo sing. All the girls are miles better the the boys, everyone I know has said the boys are crap compared to the girls.

[MarkWaldorf]

I agree. VERY overrated.

[ThisIsMarie]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
What funny is people think she is unique! She is such a copycat

To me she is exactly like Dolores O'Riordan, if youve never see her sing! you tube it
Yeh, I'm sure she's spent years studying her and perfecting how to copy her. :rolleyes:


Rather than there being someone among the millions and millions of singers in the world that she happens to sound like. It's not like there is going to be anything in the world that can be completely new and unique after all these years of existence.

[Fom]

I think they say original for the fact that no one in the charts is like it at the moment! The last person to have a voice like hers was the singer from Cranberries and that was in the 90's... she is original for this time. And she has a HUGE chance to succeed as no one in the market is her competition.

Its like saying Alex isnt unique because she sounds like every other singer there is... but she is unique in her own way.

[ThisIsMarie]

Totally agree.

Btw, I love Cranberries, esp Zombie!

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Arneldo
I think it is the most pure, the most unique, the most beautiful of the competition.

I wouldn't say it's unique, but it is very different. I was worried she didn't have any power in her voice until tonight's show and she proved she did.

She should make the top 3 at least because she does actually have the X-factor.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Fom
I think they say original for the fact that no one in the charts is like it at the moment! The last person to have a voice like hers was the singer from Cranberries and that was in the 90's... she is original for this time. And she has a HUGE chance to succeed as no one in the market is her competition.

Its like saying Alex isnt unique because she sounds like every other singer there is... but she is unique in her own way.

Hve you ever heard Norah JOnes Sing? Diana sounds almost exactly like her, and I can name a few more!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=paHlDr7kXIo

[Z]

Originally posted by Ash
She's unique on TXF though, and she's just like a breath of fresh air. It's easy to forget how young she is. She's very likeable and has tonnes of potential... it's great to see someone so talented on TXF who is also sweet, and has a different style.

QED.

She is not original, but she's unique on the X Factor, as there has been nobody like her before. I don't think anybody's claiming she's original in that sense, just that she's unique to TXF.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Hve you ever heard Norah JOnes Sing? Diana sounds almost exactly like her, and I can name a few more!


Diana's voice is a totally different sound from that in the clip. It's more raw. It sort of goes up at the end of long notes at the end of phrases which gives her a distinctive sound.

Not unique, but certainly distinctive.

She is the sort of singer that you would recognize straight away if her record was on the radio without the DJ telling you who it was.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Hve you ever heard Norah JOnes Sing? Diana sounds almost exactly like her, and I can name a few more!


Diana's voice is a totally different sound from that in the clip. It's more raw. It sort of goes up at the end of long notes at the end of phrases which gives her a distinctive sound.

Not unique, but certainly distinctive.

She is the sort of singer that you would recognize straight away if her record was on the radio without the DJ telling you who it was.

Thats just the studio version. If you hear Norah sing live, she is very similar. I have no doubt she grew up imitating her. Nothing wrong with that, but make no mistake, she is not some sort of a novelty! As soon as I first heard her auditioning, I thought Norah Jones straight away and Dolores O'Riordan

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Thats just the studio version. If you hear Norah sing live, she is very similar. I have no doubt she grew up imitating her. Nothing wrong with that, but make no mistake, she is not some sort of a novelty! As soon as I first heard her auditioning, I thought Norah Jones straight away and Dolores O'Riordan

Any live clips out there so we can compare?

[Emzy-!!]

I think she is very original, I love her voice and I love the way she sang that Michael Jackson song, it was very original.

And I think you should get mauled for this Killian. LOL joking.

[Wildcat!]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5NDuj-MyVyA

[hannah.]

Nowsthebturn (I refuse to accept your new name), whats your real name? Now we agree on something, I feel we should be on first name terms

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by hannahhhh
Nowsthebturn (I refuse to accept your new name), whats your real name? Now we agree on something, I feel we should be on first name terms

Thank you

But.... I still think Diana is more of a raw sound and very distinctive. They are similar but it's not the same sound.

Guess we will have to agree to disagree.

[Wildcat!]

Well Diana is just a rawer version of Norah Jones. NOrah JOnes ust doesnt yoddle all the time!
And BTW my real name is David, Hannah!:thumbs:

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Well Diana is just a rawer version of Norah Jones. NOrah JOnes ust doesnt yoddle all the time!

I'll agree to that :thumbs:

[rayheartbliss]

she is unique!

there not saying that shes the only one who does the same sort of gendre of music because people does same types of music......& shes inspired by damein rice....its not copying!

its like leon inspired by micheal buble
& leona inspired by whitney houston!

its always like this when someone is realy popular.....it annoys some people!

no one in the x-factor ever sings like her.....its only been 2 weeks and shes done brilliant performance!

[XxShortyxX]

We have never had anyone like Diana on the X Factor before, hence why she is unique, Cheryl is right, she melts you, there is ust something so warm and nice about her, I keep forgetting she is only 17. This girl has amazing talent, me thinks she will defo be in the final.

[microscope]

Originally posted by XxShortyxX

"she will defo be in the final."

No she won't.

[hannah.]

Originally posted by rayheartbliss
she is unique!

there not saying that shes the only one who does the same sort of gendre of music because people does same types of music......& shes inspired by damein rice....its not copying!


lolololol

[XxShortyxX]

Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by XxShortyxX

"she will defo be in the final."

No she won't.


Erm, yes she will, have you seen how popular she is around the net? on Youtube more people have watch her singing then other of the others.

[hannah.]

Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by XxShortyxX

"she will defo be in the final."

No she won't.


Erm, yes she will, have you seen how popular she is around the net? on Youtube more people have watch her singing then other of the others.

you need to remember that not everyone on the net votes, and not everyone who votes goes on the net

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Killian
But Diana's voice isn't natural at all. It's put on and I find that unfortunate -- she's imitating Damien Rice's style to a tee and I just wish she'd find some way to make it her own without sounding like she's ripping him off. When people call her 'original', it just frustrates me because she by far wasn't the first to do -- nor will she be the last.

EDIT: She reminds me of Lisa Hannigan. Look her up on YouTube.

Your entitled to your opinion me duck! Cmon this is X factor and shes got IT

[Adamw92]

I guess everyone's just jealous coz Diana is the most popular, oh dear, she may not have the best voice but she was definetly the best last night, DIANA TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!

[microscope]

Originally posted by XxShortyxX

"have you seen how popular she is around the net? on Youtube more people have watch her singing then other of the others."

I haven't trawled the net nor Youtube.com to draw my conclusions. I just know what the X-Factor judges are looking for and it's not Diana. Please don't get fooled by the volumes of people who watch Diana sing on Youtube.com. That means nothing. Except people may enjoy a particular song she's sung, which is understandable.

[XxShortyxX]

That's funny, she is the most popular on the net and is hot fav to win.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by XxShortyxX

"have you seen how popular she is around the net? on Youtube more people have watch her singing then other of the others."

I haven't trawled the net nor Youtube.com to draw my conclusions. I just know what the X-Factor judges are looking for and it's not Diana. Please don't get fooled by the volumes of people who watch Diana sing on Youtube.com. That means nothing. Except people may enjoy a particular song she's sung, which is understandable.

you "know" wat the judges want do you? Simon said she was the one to beat and all the judges love her sooooooo your point?...oh not to mention the public vote

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by XxShortyxX
That's funny, she is the most popular on the net and is hot fav to win.

I can see it all coming tumbling down for her when Cowell gets his foul mouth into her with more of the marmite comments. He couldn't touch her last night because she blew everyone away, but when he gets a chance he will undermined her and the public confidence in her.

[microscope]

Originally posted by XxShortyxX
That's funny, she is the most popular on the net and is hot fav to win.

But we've been there before, haven't we?

Just wait a few weeks and everything shall change. I'm convinced it will.

[Z]

I also think she's going to fall short of the final, I think she might finish 5th overall. She's unique, but I don't think she's that popular with voters, and I think that Simon will want to undermine her because he's looking for someone who can do well in the pop charts, and Diana certainly isn't pop.

[Bells]

Originally posted by Z
I also think she's going to fall short of the final, I think she might finish 5th overall. She's unique, but I don't think she's that popular with voters, and I think that Simon will want to undermine her because he's looking for someone who can do well in the pop charts, and Diana certainly isn't pop.

Luckily, I still think she has the potential to do well - but I agree, it's a shame that her voice isn't exactly what TXF is looking for. And I think that's silly, because she clearly has the X factor. This is like a repeat of Rhydian last year.

[microscope]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

"you "know" wat the judges want do you?"

I have watched every X-Factor and I see a very convincing pattern. I doubt very much that Diana comes anywhere close to that pattern. I do not disagree that she has an almost unique voice, but we may see her mess up next Saturday's song and that could change everything.

"Simon said she was the one to beat and all the judges love her sooooooo your point?...oh not to mention the public vote"

How many times have you seen Simon praise someone then 7 days later, he changes his mind?

[Z]

Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by Z
I also think she's going to fall short of the final, I think she might finish 5th overall. She's unique, but I don't think she's that popular with voters, and I think that Simon will want to undermine her because he's looking for someone who can do well in the pop charts, and Diana certainly isn't pop.

Luckily, I still think she has the potential to do well - but I agree, it's a shame that her voice isn't exactly what TXF is looking for. And I think that's silly, because she clearly has the X factor. This is like a repeat of Rhydian last year.

That's exactly what it's like! (The only difference being that I like Diana, I didn't like Rhydian :laugh:) I'll be pleased if she reaches the top five, but I have serious doubts at the moment that she's going to do well. I think Big Band week will separate the good from the bad. They did Big Band week in week 3 last year. Up until that week, Hope had been the favourites to win, and they were in the bottom two that week.

I think Diana has a promising career ahead of her, so long as she's at least in the last 6, but I don't think she's going to win.

[XxShortyxX]

I still think one of the girls will win this year, and I hope either one does, because they are by far the best there.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Z
I also think she's going to fall short of the final, I think she might finish 5th overall. She's unique, but I don't think she's that popular with voters, and I think that Simon will want to undermine her because he's looking for someone who can do well in the pop charts, and Diana certainly isn't pop.

I think that is a good point. I not sure he would know what to do with her if she did win, not because she is "not pop" but because she is so different. For him to work with her he would coach all the makes her different out of her and then she will be the same as 100's of other girl singers and that would be the end of her.

[Billy]

Before XF started this year, Simon said he wanted something original and different, Diana is, by XF terms, the most original contestant ever. She appeals to everyone, which is how I think she is going to get through to the final with more performances like that. It's not like she just appeals to a certain demographic she appeals to Older people, aswell as younger and different genders etc.

[Billy]

Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by XxShortyxX

"have you seen how popular she is around the net? on Youtube more people have watch her singing then other of the others."

I haven't trawled the net nor Youtube.com to draw my conclusions. I just know what the X-Factor judges are looking for and it's not Diana. Please don't get fooled by the volumes of people who watch Diana sing on Youtube.com. That means nothing. Except people may enjoy a particular song she's sung, which is understandable.

Simon said before this show started he wanted something original and fresh, Diana is, by x factor standards original and fresh.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Billy21
Before XF started this year, Simon said he wanted something original and different, Diana is, by XF terms, the most original contestant ever. She appeals to everyone, which is how I think she is going to get through to the final with more performances like that. It's not like she just appeals to a certain demographic she appeals to Older people, aswell as younger and different genders etc.

In XF terms there have been a lot of original acts before her. G4 are a prime example.

[ss00]

I don't really care if she will win or not. I just want her to make an album coz I would buy it.

[Annie]

I think she has a fantastic voice. She is so fresh and new to the world of X Factor and I think she is going to go a long way. If she doesn't win X Factor - she will be doing something in her life with singing cos she is amazing.
Last night she proved she could belt out a song and give it power. And she is singing from her diaphram not her nose as if she was singing from her nose she would have not been able to do that. And she is most definately not putting that on cos you cant belt a song and fake it.

[James]

To be honest, I thought it was a bit 'emperor's new clothes' really. She okay but doesn't have the strongest singing voice and has popularity that seems to be based on a 'quirky' image, in my opinion. :conf2:

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by hannahhhh
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
she is unique!

there not saying that shes the only one who does the same sort of gendre of music because people does same types of music......& shes inspired by damein rice....its not copying!


lolololol

You're Bad!!:laugh:

[Wildcat!]

Dont get it twisted, I personally think she is OK, not very good or star material, but I have no doubt, she ll be in the Xfactor final!

Her hype will assure her a place even if she suckks!
So I think she'll be either the winner or the runner up, and she will definitely have a recording contract.

[xDramatick]

I love Diana. She's unique to the X-Factor [there's never been an act like her] and there is space for her in the music industry [unlike some of the others]. She proves you don't need to be able to belt out songs like Whitney or do annoying Ad-Libs by imitating current divas to be talented. I could sit and listen to her sing for hours.

However. I don't want her to win. Simon would ruin her like he has with previous winners with bland generated pop music without any of the artists creative input just to please the radio/public rather than creating good, unique music that suits the artist. Don't get me wrong, I'd like her to win because that'd be a fantastic turn for the XF; a winner who isn't constantly compared to other artists, but I fear for the music she'd produce.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

"you "know" wat the judges want do you?"

I have watched every X-Factor and I see a very convincing pattern. I doubt very much that Diana comes anywhere close to that pattern. I do not disagree that she has an almost unique voice, but we may see her mess up next Saturday's song and that could change everything.

"Simon said she was the one to beat and all the judges love her sooooooo your point?...oh not to mention the public vote"

How many times have you seen Simon praise someone then 7 days later, he changes his mind?

Id like to know what your convincing pattern is but I suspect its just actually your opinion!
Well Ive also watched every X factor and dont see anything changing soon! but sorry your the all "knowing" one:rolleyes:

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by Sean19
Lauras voice p****s me off .. too much .. its strained when she does all her vibratos and stuff and that horrible .. nose thing she does .. she cant win !!
Diana is easily the best there but i see why people say about her .. she still shud win it


I agree about the Laura stuff. Laura is so bland (there are already so many artists out there that sound like her, only, better.)

I love Diana's voice, I do agree there are artists out there which sound like her, but it would be good to see somebody win this year that sounds different from the rest and for the fact so few artists with that type of voice actually make it big in the music industry.

[GiRTh]

Diana doesn't have the purity of tone that Norah Jones possesses. Diana has quite a contrived voice and I've yet to see her inject any power into her voice. I think she grew up imitating singers like Norah Jones and Eva Cassidy but Diana simply isn’t in the same league.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Diana doesn't have the purity of tone that Norah Jones possesses. Diana has quite a contrived voice and I've yet to see her inject any power into her voice. I think she grew up imitating singers like Norah Jones and Eva Cassidy but Diana simply isn’t in the same league.

this is X factor. For the pop world shes pretty good and stands out from the rest

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by GiRTh
Diana doesn't have the purity of tone that Norah Jones possesses. Diana has quite a contrived voice and I've yet to see her inject any power into her voice. I think she grew up imitating singers like Norah Jones and Eva Cassidy but Diana simply isn’t in the same league.

this is X factor. For the pop world shes pretty good and stands out from the rest I think she's trying too hard to stand out - what's with performing barefoot - I thinks she's a decent singer who has good influences but I don’t think she's talented enough to have any kind of long term career in the music business.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by GiRTh
Diana doesn't have the purity of tone that Norah Jones possesses. Diana has quite a contrived voice and I've yet to see her inject any power into her voice. I think she grew up imitating singers like Norah Jones and Eva Cassidy but Diana simply isn’t in the same league.

this is X factor. For the pop world shes pretty good and stands out from the rest I think she's trying too hard to stand out - what's with performing barefoot - I thinks she's a decent singer who has good influences but I don’t think she's talented enough to have any kind of long term career in the music business.

oh I think the opposite in the pop world she'll do well shes a watered down version of good artists...look at mcfly, lily allen, kate nash and the like, she could do aswell as them. anyway she reminds me more of modern english folk singers than the norah jones's

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
oh I think the opposite in the pop world she'll do well shes a watered down version of good artists...look at mcfly, lily allen, kate nash and the like, she could do aswell as them They all write their own songs. Does she write her own songs? Does she play an instrument? I haven't seen her so far.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
oh I think the opposite in the pop world she'll do well shes a watered down version of good artists...look at mcfly, lily allen, kate nash and the like, she could do aswell as them They all write their own songs. Does she write her own songs? Does she play an instrument? I haven't seen her so far.

I dont know but I dont think it matters for the audience she will attract

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I think she's trying too hard to stand out - what's with performing barefoot - I thinks she's a decent singer who has good influences but I don’t think she's talented enough to have any kind of long term career in the music business.

I think she might surprise you, she has one natural ability, she makes love to the cameras with her eyes in the most seductive way. It makes her a natural for the video channels which are going to love to have her on screen seducing the audience which would give her the exposure she needs to make it.

Yes, I was worried that her voice lacked power during the first week, but after the performance this week where she did show she is capable of putting more power into her voice. I do wonder if her lack of power has more to do with nerves rather than it not being there at all. I guess time will tell on that one.

One thing is for sure she is different and that is refreshing and it makes a change from the standard female diva's then show is renowned for with their strong belt it out at all cost voices.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I dont know but I dont think it matters for the audience she will attract So who's going to write the songs? Do you think professional song writers will write songs for her as opposed to say Kylie or Girls Aloud? I can see her doing albums of haunting i.e. boring cover versions and that’s all.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I dont know but I dont think it matters for the audience she will attract So who's going to write the songs? Do you think professional song writers will write songs for her as opposed to say Kylie or Girls Aloud? I can see her doing albums of haunting i.e. boring cover versions and that’s all.

well i think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I think they will

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I dont know but I dont think it matters for the audience she will attract So who's going to write the songs? Do you think professional song writers will write songs for her as opposed to say Kylie or Girls Aloud? I can see her doing albums of haunting i.e. boring cover versions and that’s all.

well i think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I think they will Did the professional songwriters write songs for Ben Mills? He was unique and quirky. Pro songwriters want BIG millions selling artists to write for. She will never be big enough for them. Thats why I keep asking if she can write her own material. If she can then she has a future. If she cant then I dont see much future for her.

OK I think we'll have to disagree on this one.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I dont know but I dont think it matters for the audience she will attract So who's going to write the songs? Do you think professional song writers will write songs for her as opposed to say Kylie or Girls Aloud? I can see her doing albums of haunting i.e. boring cover versions and that’s all.

well i think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I think they will Did the professional songwriters write songs for Ben Mills? He was unique and quirky. Pro songwriters want BIG millions selling artists to write for. She will never be big enough for them.

whos Ben Mills?and like I say I disagree I think she could be big in the pop world because she is different, but not just that, she has the X factor like Red moon says shes very seductive on camera, shes the full pop package and she already has a lot of fans, more than the others. Its not just about being quirky. But anyway yeh stalemate haha (and thats just a chess metaphor not an insult)

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
whos Ben Mills?and like I say I disagree I think she could be big in the pop world because she is different, but not just that, she has the X factor like Red moon says shes very seductive on camera, shes the full pop package and she already has a lot of fans, more than the others. Its not just about being quirky. Ben Mills was the bloke who sang like Joe Cocker who was going to win X-Factor three. He came third as I recall.

I cant stand her constant mugging of the camera. I find it a bit off putting. It detracts from her vocals.

I think she's a good singer but I don’t see any future for her unless she write her own songs.

OK I think we'll have to disagree on this one.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
whos Ben Mills?and like I say I disagree I think she could be big in the pop world because she is different, but not just that, she has the X factor like Red moon says shes very seductive on camera, shes the full pop package and she already has a lot of fans, more than the others. Its not just about being quirky. Ben Mills was the bloke who sang like Joe Cocker who was going to win X-Factor three. He came third as I recall.

I cant stand her constant mugging of the camera. I find it a bit off putting. It detracts from her vocals.

I think she's a good singer but I don’t see any future for her unless she write her own songs.

OK I think we'll have to disagree on this one.

lol. oh him yeh but he didnt have IT

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
whos Ben Mills?and like I say I disagree I think she could be big in the pop world because she is different, but not just that, she has the X factor like Red moon says shes very seductive on camera, shes the full pop package and she already has a lot of fans, more than the others. Its not just about being quirky. Ben Mills was the bloke who sang like Joe Cocker who was going to win X-Factor three. He came third as I recall.

I cant stand her constant mugging of the camera. I find it a bit off putting. It detracts from her vocals.

I think she's a good singer but I don’t see any future for her unless she write her own songs.

OK I think we'll have to disagree on this one.

lol. oh him yeh but he didnt have IT The judges said he did.

[karezza]

Diana's voice is so annoying - I can't listen to her.

Laura & Rachel have the strongest voices.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Did the professional songwriters write songs for Ben Mills? He was unique and quirky. Pro songwriters want BIG millions selling artists to write for. She will never be big enough for them. Thats why I keep asking if she can write her own material. If she can then she has a future. If she cant then I dont see much future for her.

If I was her and her management I would tell any big name professional song writer to bog off. It not what she needs for that voice. She would need a writer that is fresh and full of new idea's who is different.

After all what would be the point of having a different voice and then having a writer that is so commercial that they can only write music in a commercial popular style.

She is a young artist and she has time to build a career, her first album doesn't have to be an instant hit and go to number one. She has the time to develop her own fan base and home her own unique musical style.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Red Moon
If I was her and her management I would tell any big name professional song writer to bog off. It not what she needs for that voice. She would need a writer that is fresh and full of new idea's who is different.

After all what would be the point of having a different voice and then having a writer that is so commercial that they can only write music in a commercial popular style.

She is a young artist and she has time to build a career, her first album doesn't have to be an instant hit and go to number one. She has the time to develop her own fan base and home her own unique musical style. Do you think she's THAT good? Strange but I don't see it. I don't dislike her voice I just don't see that big a career for her. Why buy her records as opposed to Norah Jones when Jones writes her own songs or Eva Cassidy when Diana voice is no where near the calibre of Cassidy 's.

I think her career will pretty much go the same way as Ben Mills. She'll have her fans and she'll make records but I don't see too much commercial success for her.

[NettoSuperstar!]

yeh but Norah Jones is a twaddle merchant:tongue:

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
yeh but Norah Jones is a twaddle merchant:tongue: Are you referring to millions selling and multi award winning artist Norah Jones?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
yeh but Norah Jones is a twaddle merchant:tongue: Are you referring to millions selling and multi award winning artist Norah Jones?

yah:whistle:

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
yeh but Norah Jones is a twaddle merchant:tongue: Are you referring to millions selling and multi award winning artist Norah Jones?

yah:whistle: OK I just wanted to know. You are aware that Diana hasn't sold any albums or won anything right?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
yeh but Norah Jones is a twaddle merchant:tongue: Are you referring to millions selling and multi award winning artist Norah Jones?

yah:whistle: OK I just wanted to know. You are aware that Diana hasn't sold any albums or won anything right?

yet! cmon Girth relax. I respect your opinion ok...shes not going to be to everyones taste

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
yeh but Norah Jones is a twaddle merchant:tongue: Are you referring to millions selling and multi award winning artist Norah Jones?

yah:whistle: OK I just wanted to know. You are aware that Diana hasn't sold any albums or won anything right?

yet! cmon Girth relax. I respect your opinion ok... I respect yours too.:thumbs:

[Wildcat!]

For the record Girth, I didnt say she is as good as Norah Jones. I used her as an example, because some ill advised people here, seem to think she is some novelty unique style of performer. But like I said, as soon as I saw her sing, I knew she was a copycat of styles way before her!
But now thats established, the new claim is that she is unique in xfactor terms.
And the whole seductive thing, most people who sing in live talent shows know how to do just that. Go watch Katherine Mcphee on American Idol, that was her whole thing!

I agree with you that she would have to be a songwriter to succeed beyond just a one hit wonder! She is decent, but she can probably win xfactor.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha Go watch Katherine Mcphee on American Idol, that was her whole thing! I agree about Katherine McPhee but she was stunning and a great singer. She should have won not that Ray Charles Wannabe Taylor Hicks.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Do you think she's THAT good? Strange but I don't see it. I don't dislike her voice I just don't see that big a career for her. Why buy her records as opposed to Norah Jones when Jones writes her own songs or Eva Cassidy when Diana voice is no where near the calibre of Cassidy 's.

I think her career will pretty much go the same way as Ben Mills. She'll have her fans and she'll make records but I don't see too much commercial success for her.

Norah Jones is 29 and was a lounge singer when she started, it wasn't until she was 23 that she released her first album. In that respect Diana has a head start on her and has more time to develop. I think it must be remembered that when you compare them you have to be aware that Norah has had six years to develop and mature as a singer and as a performer.

I think she has the potential to be very good, especially given her age, but because of her style she will never be really really big, but she will do better than Ben Mills.

There is one good reason to buy Diana's albums as well as Norah Jones and Eva Cassidy, she is British.

But this could all be academic because we don't know if Diana can or can not write her own stuff yet.

[microscope]

Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by XxShortyxX

"have you seen how popular she is around the net? on Youtube more people have watch her singing then other of the others."

I haven't trawled the net nor Youtube.com to draw my conclusions. I just know what the X-Factor judges are looking for and it's not Diana. Please don't get fooled by the volumes of people who watch Diana sing on Youtube.com. That means nothing. Except people may enjoy a particular song she's sung, which is understandable.

Simon said before this show started he wanted something original and fresh, Diana is, by x factor standards original and fresh.

Diana is a fair singer, "Don't get me wrong", I won't deny that. But she has a lot of competition this year and I don't feel that her voice is good enough to tackle some of the songs which she will have to face in the upcoming weeks. Sooner or later I expect her to be heavily criticised by the judges and that could mean the end for Diana.

I know what Simon said. He says the same thing everytime. He's looking for someone who has that X-Factor. If Diana lacked that ingredient, she would never had made the final 12.

[robb]

Nora Jones, the Cranberries singer, dolores,early alanis morrisette, I've even heard some people say dido(?) and adele.............any more? Btw, I know she's popular as one of Cheryl's Angels, who seem preordained to win, but Princess diana IS no angel either...................see previous posts about her page 3 type pics on websites, and her nite clubbing/drinking till all hours. Nothing wrong with this...............except she IS supposed to be dreamy,floaty, different?? HERE'S THE GOOD NEWS............she was better this week than last, no doubt about that.

[robb]

The Simon and Cheryl Show (see The Sun) won't let anything or anyone get in the way of one of their charges winning.................witnesss Cowell's crazy decision to put Ruth up for the public vote AFTER Purple Rain. No Way WILL HE START TO HAVE A GO at diana or laura.................he'll have a dig at alex 'cos she's not 'different' enough, to make it look good. Don't fall for the hype!!

[microscope]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

"you "know" wat the judges want do you?"

I have watched every X-Factor and I see a very convincing pattern. I doubt very much that Diana comes anywhere close to that pattern. I do not disagree that she has an almost unique voice, but we may see her mess up next Saturday's song and that could change everything.

"Simon said she was the one to beat and all the judges love her sooooooo your point?...oh not to mention the public vote"

How many times have you seen Simon praise someone then 7 days later, he changes his mind?

Id like to know what your convincing pattern is but I suspect its just actually your opinion!
Well Ive also watched every X factor and dont see anything changing soon! but sorry your the all "knowing" one:rolleyes:

I'm not the all "knowing", I am simply pointing out to you that there seems to be a pattern in the way the show pans out. I watch this show every year and I try to pick the singer or group who I think shall win and the one I personally would like to win. So far I have faired very well.

[Wildcat!]

The judges arent gonna criticize diana trust me! They shouldve this week, because she yoddled throughout the song, and being seductive singing MAn in the mirror, was totally inapropriate. But the fact is, Simon sees the bottom line. After week one, he realised Diana is probably the most popular contestant. SO he will push her all the way to the end. Simon doesnt care if his act wins, thats just panto stuff. Whoever wins is gonna mak ehim money! He cares that the winner will sell records. So until someone seem more popular, he will back Diana, just like he switched from David Archuleta to David cook, when he realised the latter was more popular.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Red Moon

Norah Jones is 29 and was a lounge singer when she started, it wasn't until she was 23 that she released her first album. In that respect Diana has a head start on her and has more time to develop. I think it must be remembered that when you compare them you have to be aware that Norah has had six years to develop and mature as a singer and as a performer.

I think she has the potential to be very good, especially given her age, but because of her style she will never be really really big, but she will do better than Ben Mills.

There is one good reason to buy Diana's albums as well as Norah Jones and Eva Cassidy, she is British.

But this could all be academic because we don't know if Diana can or can not write her own stuff yet. Being Ravi Shankars daughter has also helped Norah Jones career.

I assumed Diana couldn't write her own songs because we're yet to see her with an instrument or even mention that she can play an instrument. I think we're going to find that she can't write songs which is why I don’t see much future for her. She'll have her loyal fans but I think she'll end up like Sinead Quinn or Alex Park

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
For the record Girth, I didnt say she is as good as Norah Jones. I used her as an example, because some ill advised people here, seem to think she is some novelty unique style of performer. But like I said, as soon as I saw her sing, I knew she was a copycat of styles way before her!

But now thats established, the new claim is that she is unique in xfactor terms.
And the whole seductive thing, most people who sing in live talent shows know how to do just that. Go watch Katherine Mcphee on American Idol, that was her whole thing!

I agree with you that she would have to be a songwriter to succeed beyond just a one hit wonder! She is decent, but she can probably win xfactor.

You are never going to get a unique style of performer, it's just not going to happen.

Of course she is a copy cat singer, what young teenage girl doesn't copy the styles of singers they like as they develop their voice by singing along to the tracks of their favorite CD's. The only way to make a artist truly unique would to have them grow with out any form of musical influences from birth and that not going to happen. So what you get evaluation of styles and Diana could just be another part of the evolutionary cycle. After all what artist doesn't say they are influenced by tis singer or band?

As for seductive thing, it's not something she has developed, it is natural to her and it is combined with great vulnerability. It's makes her captivating to watch.

[microscope]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

"The judges arent going to criticize diana trust me!"

You maybe right but I think if she is given a song which doesn't fit her voice, then she is likely to be criticised. Maybe not as harsh.

"Simon doesnt care if his act wins, thats just panto stuff. "

He does make money whoever wins, but he is a proud man and quite modest with it and I know he would love to be the triumphant judge in the end. I think if he was unhappy with his own acts, then he may favour someone else. But if he felt that one or more of his acts had a REAL fighting chance, then he would back them to the hilt!

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I assumed she couldn't write her own songs because we're yet to see her with an instrument or even mention that she can play an instrument. I think we're going to find that she can't write songs which is why I don’t see much future for her. She'll have her loyal fans but I think she'll end up like Sinead Quinn

At the moment we don't know that because, unlike American Idol, the contestants are not allowed to play instruments on the show. And if she can't play some instrument now she could learn. After all she already musical and it wouldn't take her long to learn enough to start writing melodies to which other could develop arrangements for her.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Red Moon
At the moment we don't know that because, unlike American Idol, the contestants are not allowed to play instruments on the show. And if she can't play some instrument now she could learn. After all she already musical and it wouldn't take her long to learn enough to start writing melodies to which other could develop arrangements for her. Do you think playing an instrument and writing songs is as easy as that? I can play the guitar but I can't write songs for sh*t. And there are many like me. Diana may be the same. I don't think saying she can learn is going to make her into a good enough songwriter to make a career out of it.

Also, all through the auditions there was not mention of her being able to play an instrument. I'd have thought she'd have mentioned it at some point because she did feature quite heavily in the audition shows.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by GiRTh
I assumed she couldn't write her own songs because we're yet to see her with an instrument or even mention that she can play an instrument. I think we're going to find that she can't write songs which is why I don’t see much future for her. She'll have her loyal fans but I think she'll end up like Sinead Quinn

At the moment we don't know that because, unlike American Idol, the contestants are not allowed to play instruments on the show. And if she can't play some instrument now she could learn. After all she already musical and it wouldn't take her long to learn enough to start writing melodies to which other could develop arrangements for her.

thats not true! Why was Ben Mills playing instruments?
And Journey South, even the Mcdonald brothers?
I am afraid you got that wrong! American Idol wasnt allowed until a year ago, but Xfactor is!

And I am pretty certain she dont, if she did, it would be mentioned! It alaways is!

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

"The judges arent going to criticize diana trust me!"

You maybe right but I think if she is given a song which doesn't fit her voice, then she is likely to be criticised. Maybe not as harsh.

"Simon doesnt care if his act wins, thats just panto stuff. "

He does make money whoever wins, but he is a proud man and quite modest with it and I know he would love to be the triumphant judge in the end. I think if he was unhappy with his own acts, then he may favour someone else. But if he felt that one or more of his acts had a REAL fighting chance, then he would back them to the hilt!

I have to agree with Aint_mad_atcha, Diana will be attacked again by Cowell for being different and not pop star potential. Cowell really wants to win this year and he will do it my any means fair but mainly foul.

[microscope]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

"The judges arent going to criticize diana trust me!"

You maybe right but I think if she is given a song which doesn't fit her voice, then she is likely to be criticised. Maybe not as harsh.

"Simon doesnt care if his act wins, thats just panto stuff. "

He does make money whoever wins, but he is a proud man and quite modest with it and I know he would love to be the triumphant judge in the end. I think if he was unhappy with his own acts, then he may favour someone else. But if he felt that one or more of his acts had a REAL fighting chance, then he would back them to the hilt!

I have to agree with Aint_mad_atcha, Diana will be attacked again by Cowell for being different and not pop star potential. Cowell really wants to win this year and he will do it my any means fair but mainly foul.

You mean you disagree with Aint_mad_atcha.

[Wildcat!]

LOL! I was confused as well!:laugh:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Diana is now 9-4 fave Paddy Power:thumbs: and 3-1 fave at Betfair

[XxShortyxX]

Yay, go Diana :elephant:

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRThDo you think playing an instrument and writing songs is as easy as that? I can play the guitar but I can't write songs for sh*t. And there are many like me. Diana may be the same. I don't think saying she can learn is going to make her into a good enough songwriter to make a career out of it.

Also, all through the auditions there was not mention of her being able to play an instrument. I'd have thought she'd have mentioned it at some point because she did feature quite heavily in the audition shows.

Yes I do. I can only play a recorder and the flute, but I could create a melody for a song. Then using a computer and a keyboard I could probably even arrange it and I know enough about music to know what works and sounds right. I didn't spend all the time at primary school and secondary school until I was 14 without learning something about music.

But then again may be you are right and she can't write her own songs but does that really matter?

There are lots of singers out there that don't write their own stuff, so what is the problem.

I think it is people want to compare her to other people, why can't she be her own person and appreciated for what she does.

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
thats not true! Why was Ben Mills playing instruments?
And Journey South, even the Mcdonald brothers?
I am afraid you got that wrong! American Idol wasnt allowed until a year ago, but Xfactor is!

And I am pretty certain she dont, if she did, it would be mentioned! It alaways is!

I didn't know that. I'm amazed that none of them have played an instrument yet. You would have thought one of the would have done so by now.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by microscope
You mean you disagree with Aint_mad_atcha.

Yes I did..... my dyslexia strikes again....... sorry :thumbs:

[microscope]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by microscope
You mean you disagree with Aint_mad_atcha.

Yes I did..... my dyslexia strikes again....... sorry :thumbs:

I'm sorry, I had no idea!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Yes I do. I can only play a recorder and the flute, but I could create a melody for a song. Then using a computer and a keyboard I could probably even arrange it and I know enough about music to know what works and sounds right. I didn't spend all the time at primary school and secondary school until I was 14 without learning something about music.

But then again may be you are right and she can't write her own songs but does that really matter?

There are lots of singers out there that don't write their own stuff, so what is the problem.

I think it is people want to compare her to other people, why can't she be her own person and appreciated for what she does.
If that’s the case then why aren’t we all millions selling songwriters? You've oversimplified it a touch. It may be true that anyone can write a song but can anyone write an album, then follow that up with a 2nd album a year later, then a third album a year after that and so on and so on

It does matter that she doesn't write her own songs because, as I've pointed out a couple of times, I don’t think professional songwriters would write songs for her as opposed to much bigger better selling commercial artists. I just don’t see it.

I think if she can't write her own songs then she won't have much of a career in the music business.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Red Moon
Yes I did..... my dyslexia strikes again....... sorry :thumbs:
I'm sorry, I had no idea!
No problem, you wouldn't I use a Apple Macbook and Safari has an inbuilt spell checker. :thumbs:

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRTh
If that’s the case then why aren’t we all millions selling songwriters. You've oversimplified it a touch. It may be true that anyone can write a song but can anyone write an album, then follow that up with a 2nd album a year later, then a third album a year after that and so on and so on

It does matter that she doesn't write her own songs because, as I've pointed out a couple of times, I don’t think professional songwriters would write songs for her as opposed to much bigger better selling commercial artists. I just don’t see it.

I think if she can't write her own songs then she won't have much of a career in the music business.

Because we can't be bothered and have other things to do in life. We all don't aspire to be singers or song writers. and I'm sure once yo have done your first song then the second would be easier and so on.

If you are a commercial song writer you not going to turn down work and not all commercial song writers can right for the big names. And any case does she want a established commercial song writer, what she probably needs is a songwriter that is starting their career can develop their style with hers.

I can't see why she needs to write her own stuff, she doesn't have to be a singer/song writer to be a success. Other people have made it in the past.

I think the whole idea of her writing her own stuff is because people seem to want her to emulate existing singers and thinking she can't compete unless she does, but how do you know she can't unless she tries.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Red Moon

Because we can't be bothered and have other things to do in life. We all don't aspire to be singers or song writers. and I'm sure once you have done your first song then the second would be easier and so on. No. It’s the other way round. It gets harder. Noel Gallagher has said that he thought, when he wrote Definitely Maybe, that he'd be writing albums like that for 20 years. Now fifteen years later he admits that he's struggling as a songwriter.

If you are a commercial song writer you not going to turn down work and not all commercial song writers can right for the big names. And any case does she want a established commercial song writer, what she probably needs is a songwriter that is starting their career can develop their style with hers.Like Guy Chambers did with Robby Williams? Unfortunately relationships like that are few and far between.

I can't see why she needs to write her own stuff, she doesn't have to be a singer/song writer to be a success. Other people have made it in the past. Who recently? Back in the sixties and seventies maybe but not these days. These day a vocalist needs to be outstanding - or win a 'talent' contest - to get away without writing their own material.

Ithink the whole idea of her writing her own stuff is because people seem to want her to emulate existing singers and thinking she can't compete unless she does, but how do you know she can't unless she tries. For me the reason why she has to write her own stuff is because I don’t think she can be taken seriously as an artist if she doesn't. Her vocals are not good enough.

[robb]

Tbh she's good enough for the singles market. She doesn't need to play instruments, just record her voice!! She is obviously popular. I remain unconvinced.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Its not all about the vocals, its the full pop package, its the X factor, you might not like her but loads do and loads will probably buy into it

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRTh
No. It’s the other way round. etc....

That's is Noel Gallagher's experiance of song writing that it gets harder as time goes on, it can't be everyones or people wouldn't do it for a living.

If it can work with Guy Chambers did with Robby Williams, why can't that sort relationship happen again, just because they are few and far between doesn't mean they can't happen, because clear it does.

The point she is different and that is why she could sing songs written for her and if people aren't happy she doesn't write her own stuff then they don't have to buy her albums. It's not compulsory.

[GiRTh]

The Noel Gallagher reference was just to emphasise someone who wrote a few songs, had a few hits and thought the whole thing was easy only to later find out song writing is a lot harder than they initially anticipated.

If she got herself a Guy Chambers i.e. someone who would help her write songs then I think she'll have a future but I don't see any other way she can survive.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRTh
The Noel Gallagher reference was just to emphasise someone who wrote a few songs, had a few hits and thought the whole thing was easy only to later find out song writing is a lot harder than they initially anticipated.

If she got herself a Guy Chambers i.e. someone who would help her write songs then I think she'll have a future but I don't see any other way she can survive.

I guess only time will tell.

But at the moment and until she leaves the X-Factor she will be a lovely contrast to all the belt it out girl singers.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Red Moon
I guess only time will tell.

But at the moment and until she leaves the X-Factor she will be a lovely contrast to all the belt it out girl singers.
At some point she's going to have to prove she can belt songs out too. Until then I think she's wildly overrated. Her vocal style is very stylised with little emphasis on vocal power and technique. Her only appeal seems to be her quirky nature. I think she needs more.

[XxShortyxX]

IMO, Diana has the X Factor, the looks, voice, stage precence, chrisma ect.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Red Moon
I guess only time will tell.

But at the moment and until she leaves the X-Factor she will be a lovely contrast to all the belt it out girl singers.
At some point she's going to have to prove she can belt songs out too. Until then I think she's wildly overrated. Her vocal style is very stylised with little emphasis on vocal power and technique. Her only appeal seems to be her quirky nature. I think she needs more.

Everyone keeps telling you its not her only appeal, she looks like a star, shes cute and charismatic shes appeals to a wide range of people, she has a good voice, better than girls aloud who were well ropey saturday! and it doesnt matter if they dont belt out songs. They dont have to have the most technically perfect voice to have IT and make it in the pop world

[Z]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Red Moon
I guess only time will tell.

But at the moment and until she leaves the X-Factor she will be a lovely contrast to all the belt it out girl singers.
At some point she's going to have to prove she can belt songs out too. Until then I think she's wildly overrated. Her vocal style is very stylised with little emphasis on vocal power and technique. Her only appeal seems to be her quirky nature. I think she needs more.

That's my fear for Diana, I think she's very good but the quirkiness is hiding the fact she's not really shown much power to her voice. I thought her performance in week 2 was a cheap imitation of her performance in week 1. If she does something similar in week 3, people are going to see her as a one trick pony.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Z
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Red Moon
I guess only time will tell.

But at the moment and until she leaves the X-Factor she will be a lovely contrast to all the belt it out girl singers.
At some point she's going to have to prove she can belt songs out too. Until then I think she's wildly overrated. Her vocal style is very stylised with little emphasis on vocal power and technique. Her only appeal seems to be her quirky nature. I think she needs more.

That's my fear for Diana, I think she's very good but the quirkiness is hiding the fact she's not really shown much power to her voice. I thought her performance in week 2 was a cheap imitation of her performance in week 1. If she does something similar in week 3, people are going to see her as a one trick pony.

thats the way she sings! and she doesnt need to be a mariah or a whitney, people like her voice the way it is, shes got character which some of them are sadly lacking! Technical perfect singing is not what its about!!

[NettoSuperstar!]

...and if you want to get technical JLS have been off key more than Diana who hasnt at all

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRTh
At some point she's going to have to prove she can belt songs out too. Until then I think she's wildly overrated. Her vocal style is very stylised with little emphasis on vocal power and technique. Her only appeal seems to be her quirky nature. I think she needs more.

But that is what she is, why should she try and be like the rest of them. She not that sort of singer and probably never will be.

Do we really need a world full of women singers that just belt stuff out?

Okay, she is going to have problems with some of the themes on the x-factor, but so is Laura with her voice which is more jazzy, but that is just the way the show works and in the end it won't affect the either girls career at the end of the day. It's just a game show.

[Z]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Z
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Red Moon
I guess only time will tell.

But at the moment and until she leaves the X-Factor she will be a lovely contrast to all the belt it out girl singers.
At some point she's going to have to prove she can belt songs out too. Until then I think she's wildly overrated. Her vocal style is very stylised with little emphasis on vocal power and technique. Her only appeal seems to be her quirky nature. I think she needs more.

That's my fear for Diana, I think she's very good but the quirkiness is hiding the fact she's not really shown much power to her voice. I thought her performance in week 2 was a cheap imitation of her performance in week 1. If she does something similar in week 3, people are going to see her as a one trick pony.

thats the way she sings! and she doesnt need to be a mariah or a whitney, people like her voice the way it is, shes got character which some of them are sadly lacking! Technical perfect singing is not what its about!!

I know, I like Diana, my point isn't how good her singing is, it's how she's picked two songs that have a similar tempo that have worked well with her voice - which is great. But Big Band Week is a tough one, and I'm struggling to come up with ideas about what she's going to sing this week. If she picks another slow song, people are going to see her as a one trick pony.

However, I really hope she's in the final 6 (I have 6 favourites at the moment. Haha.)

[GiRTh]

I agree with Z. Diana hasn't shown much true vocal talent so far. She needs to show that she can belt songs out, that she can sing vibrato, she can improvise while signing etc. I think Red is wrong Laura has shown many of those qualities where as Diana is still relying on her quirkiness.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by Z
I know, I like Diana, my point isn't how good her singing is, it's how she's picked two songs that have a similar tempo that have worked well with her voice - which is great. But Big Band Week is a tough one, and I'm struggling to come up with ideas about what she's going to sing this week. If she picks another slow song, people are going to see her as a one trick pony.

However, I really hope she's in the final 6 (I have 6 favourites at the moment. Haha.)

You're right she could end up sounding the same ever week and it will be hard for her to up her game and that could be her downfall.

Like you I think that this week will be hard for her. I keep trying to think of a soft sounding big band songs and I can't think of any, but she not going to be the only one with this problem as Eoghan going to find it hard with his weak voice.

[Red Moon]

I agree with NettoSuperstar! Diana is who she is and she doesn't have to sound like mariah or a whitney. I think Girth is wrong for wanting to change her into something she isn't.

And as Laura she is a completely different type of singer than Diana and sings in a different style. It would be pointless try to make Diana sound like Laura.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Red Moon
I agree with NettoSuperstar! Diana is who she is and she doesn't have to sound like mariah or a whitney. I think Girth is wrong for wanting to change her into something she isn't.

And as Laura she is a completely different type of singer than Diana and sings in a different style. It would be pointless try to make Diana sound like Laura. I'm not saying Diana should try and sing like Laura I'm saying Diana needs to show some of the vocal talent that Lara is showing. Diana needs to show off a bit and surprise us. So far Diana has only sung certain types of songs in a certain way. If she continues then she'll become a one trick pony. Personally, I think she is a one trick pony so its up to her to surprise someone like me.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I'm not saying Diana should try and sing like Laura I'm saying Diana needs to show some of the vocal talent that Lara is showing. Diana needs to show off a bit and surprise us. So far Diana has only sung certain types of songs in a certain way. If she continues then she'll become a one trick pony. Personally, I think she is a one trick pony so its up to her to surprise someone like me.

Fair enough, I see what your saying and I think you are right to a point.

If she wants to go far in the x-factor she will need to do more than she is doing now and up her game. You basically fear she can't do that and that will get her voted out of the show at some point because she is talented enough vocally. I agree that is a possibility, that her lack of vocal skills might be her downfall, but then again there must be more to her singing than she has shown so far.

If I remember correctly didn't she say she had been in Annie, or played Annie, I can't remember which, but that musical requires a certain amount of power to get the songs across. I remember seeing it when it was on at the west-end and even the first song "hard knock life" requires the singers to belt the song out to get maximum effect.

[NettoSuperstar!]

I think she upped her game this week and can continue to do so she doesnt need to belt out anything and like Billy said man in the mirror isnt slow

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Fair enough, I see what your saying and I think you are right to a point.

If she wants to go far in the x-factor she will need to do more than she is doing now and up her game. You basically fear she can't do that and that will get her voted out of the show at some point because she is talented enough vocally. I agree that is a possibility, that her lack of vocal skills might be her downfall, but then again there must be more to her singing than she has shown so far.
I think, even if she does totally screw up she has such a big fan base she'll go through any way. I wouldn’t be surprised to see her in the final at the expense of Ruth, Rachel or Alex, and I think all three of those are potentially better singers with more range, control, power and versatility. I don’t deny Diana is a good singer I just don’t think she's anywhere near as good as many people say.

[NettoSuperstar!]

lots of people arent technically the best singers but have more about them, its like someone might not be classicly the best looking but far more appealing than someone who is

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
lots of people arent technically the best singers but have more about them, its like someone might not be classicly the best looking but far more appealing than someone who is True.

Technically Laura isn't that good but when she starts riffing and showing off she steals the show.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
lots of people arent technically the best singers but have more about them, its like someone might not be classicly the best looking but far more appealing than someone who is True.

Technically Laura isn't that good but when she starts riffing and showing off she steals the show.

I like Laura yeh

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I think, even if she does totally screw up she has such a big fan base she'll go through any way. I wouldn’t be surprised to see her in the final at the expense of Ruth, Rachel or Alex, and I think all three of those are potentially better singers with more range, control, power and versatility. I don’t deny Diana is a good singer I just don’t think she's anywhere near as good as many people say.

I agree with you that she isn't the best singer, but she is different to every other singer in the x-factor and I think is what is generating all the interest in her.

And I also agree that Ruth and Alexandra are better singers than her as is Laura, however I'm yet to be convinced by anything that Rachel has done on the live shows, she of all the girls has been the least impressive and I expected much more form her.

Unfortunately I think both Ruth's and Rachel's time on the show will be limited. In the case of the later, because she is too head strong and won't take advice that is offered to her and in the case of the former because she doesn't have a fan base.

Although I wouldn't at this stage I wouldn't miss Rachel, I feel Ruth leaving early would be such a shame. Ruth proved she has the ability to move people with the power, emotion and passion in her voice when she sang purple rain.

However, returning to Diana if she does make it to the final it will be because of her style of singing and her natural ability to seduce the camera and the audience. To change her into something she is not would be foolish of any mentor.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
yeh but Norah Jones is a twaddle merchant:tongue: Are you referring to millions selling and multi award winning artist Norah Jones?

I sincerely have to apologise! I dont know what I was thinking of. It was Katie bloody Melua I meant! shes the twaddle merchant...nine million bicycles in bejing, thats a fact, yeh whatever Melua! OOps