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Ok, I know she's an outsider, and not mentored by The Chosen Ones (Cowell and Cole), but Ruth proved she has on e heck of a voice with Purple Rain. For those of you who are a bit tired of the way the result seems to be heading, I ask you, Ruth FANS, TO GET BEHIND HER keep her in the show. Vote for her, don't just say you think she's a good singer!!
microscope
20-10-2008, 12:28 PM
I think Ruth as a GREAT voice but I feel that she will be voted out when we are down to the last 5.
Ruth proved she has on e heck of a voice with Purple Rain.
When I heard that she had chosen, "Purple Rain", I cringed!
What a bad choice of song. But she nailed it with the public vote, thankfully.
GiRTh
20-10-2008, 12:30 PM
She'll be out soon. Simon has turned against her.
Wildcat!
20-10-2008, 12:34 PM
She will be out soon! People who end up in the bottom 2 early on xfactore have no chance! The others have bigger fan bases! And as soon as she is average again, she will be gone!
NettoSuperstar!
20-10-2008, 12:54 PM
she has to keep that level up every week, she was good but I dont think she has enough support to win
XxShortyxX
20-10-2008, 01:02 PM
She is miles better then the likes of Daniel, Scott and Eoghan, they are awful.
NettoSuperstar!
20-10-2008, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
She is miles better then the likes of Daniel, Scott and Eoghan, they are awful.
yeh I know but theyve got the granny/girly vote
XxShortyxX
20-10-2008, 01:06 PM
True :rolleyes:
Benjamin
20-10-2008, 01:06 PM
I can't believe Ruth was in bottom two and I don't understand how Laura has so much support, her voice is so dull and not very interesting.
Diana, Ruth and Alex should be the final 3.
XxShortyxX
20-10-2008, 01:08 PM
Laura has an amazing voice! the end of that song she sung was amazing, she held the high notes brilliantly. She is the second best singer there, after Diana.
Locke.
20-10-2008, 02:01 PM
I think she will be out on saturday unless she puts in another excellent performance, as people will be expecting that of her now.
I think she'll be safe for Big Band Week, but week 4 could be a stumbling block for her. I really hope she outlasts Scott and Rachel, those two are weak links.
The above threads are positive in the main, but only because, as I said before, Ruth is their third or fourth choice, and seen not to be a threat. I believe Cowell SAW her as a potential threat after Purple Rain, and decided to 'let her go', a la Maria Lawson with Louis. Not right!! FLOATING VOTERS MUST GET BEHIND RUTH!! Her voice is as good as anyone's and I ask you this? Who would have wanted their fave to follow her rendition of Purple Rain on Saturday in the sing-off? The only way is up!! Come On!! :wink:
GiRTh
20-10-2008, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by robb
The above threads are positive in the main, but only because, as I said before, Ruth is their third or fourth choice, and seen not to be a threat. I believe Cowell SAW her as a potential threat after Purple Rain, and decided to 'let her go', a la Maria Lawson with Louis. Not right!! FLOATING VOTERS MUST GET BEHIND RUTH!! Her voice is as good as anyone's and I ask you this? Who would have wanted their fave to follow her rendition of Purple Rain on Saturday in the sing-off? The only way is up!! Come On!! :wink: I agree but do you think Simon thought Ruth would get fewer public votes than Girlband? I'm not so sure.
Thanks for bringing up Louis biggest blunder (ie Maria Lawson). To this day he still has not come up with an adequate explanation for getting rid of her.:whistle:
Bright-Eyes
20-10-2008, 02:58 PM
She has won a lot of new fans with PR. I am hoping she does not for a few more week at least, She really does not deserve to.
GiRTh
20-10-2008, 03:07 PM
I also think her nationality will work against her. I personally don't want her to sing in Spanish for the simple reason I wont be able to fully understand what she's saying - I can speak a little Spanish but not much.
I think Red is right. Simon is twisting it up to get her eliminated. There's has been nothing wrong with her performances thus far he's criticising for the sake of it simply because she's a threat to his artists. You have to question the motives of anyone who can praise Same Difference the way he did last year. I think Ruth is Simon's first target for this year. Poor girl. I wish it was just a talent contest.
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Laura has an amazing voice! the end of that song she sung was amazing, she held the high notes brilliantly. She is the second best singer there, after Diana.
laura's the best imo. Diana's just more captivating.
Benjamin
20-10-2008, 03:28 PM
See you would think Simon would want an artist to win this who will make him the most money.
Thus Ruth could be a contender for that, and worldwide fame.
There are many Spanish spaeking countries out there, and is an untapped source on his part. She would go down well in most of these countries, and in USA with a big Spanish population.
He focuses too much on the ones that will make him a quick buck right now, this instant, but not on the ones which will give him longevity.
The only one from X factor with Longevity is Leona.
The rest have more or less gone.
GiRTh
20-10-2008, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by ukturtle
See you would think Simon would want an artist to win this who will make him the most money.
Thus Ruth could be a contender for that, and worldwide fame.
There are many Spanish spaeking countries out there, and is an untapped source on his part. She would go down well in most of these countries, and in USA with a big Spanish population.
He focuses too much on the ones that will make him a quick buck right now, this instant, but not on the ones which will give him longevity.
The only one from X factor with Longevity is Leona.
The rest have more or less gone. You're absolutely right. I never thought of that.
Spanish is one of the most spoken languages on the planet thus Ruth would have quite a big fan base to tap into. Plus, there are Latin Grammys and many Spanish speaking radio stations in the USA. Maybe Simon's missed a chance to tap into that market.
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
She will be out soon! People who end up in the bottom 2 early on xfactore have no chance! The others have bigger fan bases! And as soon as she is average again, she will be gone!
It didn't harm G4 or Chico. Ruth has gained a lot of fans through that performance. Today at work people who didn't rate her at all and wanted her gone are now backing her as their favourite. I'm sure thats happened to many others as well.
She won't win, but she can come close to the final. It sometimes takes a shock performance to get people on side, not a gradual improvement over 7 weeks.
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by ukturtle
See you would think Simon would want an artist to win this who will make him the most money.
Thus Ruth could be a contender for that, and worldwide fame.
There are many Spanish spaeking countries out there, and is an untapped source on his part. She would go down well in most of these countries, and in USA with a big Spanish population.
He focuses too much on the ones that will make him a quick buck right now, this instant, but not on the ones which will give him longevity.
The only one from X factor with Longevity is Leona.
The rest have more or less gone. You're absolutely right. I never thought of that.
Spanish is one of the most spoken languages on the planet thus Ruth would have quite a big fan base to tap into. Plus, there are Latin Grammys and many Spanish speaking radio stations in the USA. Maybe Simon's missed a chance to tap into that market.
And I think that Simon will take advantage of that opportunity with a Spanish artist at one point, perhaps not Ruth. He wants somebody who will primarily do well in the UK, before moving onto a global stage, because the winner needs to be A) amazing or B) controversial in order for the X Factor to return for another season.
Wildcat!
20-10-2008, 03:49 PM
she is gonna go soon,because even if a lot of people like her, she is usually no ones favorite! Most people have her as 2nd 3rd or 4th favorite. SO Some singers that a lot of people dislike, have also a big fan base. Its good to be marmite, like love me or hate me. You will always get the votes. BUt the ones like Ruth are the once you will clap for , but at the end of the day, most will vote for Diana, Laura, Alex or rachel.
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
she is going to go soon,because even if a lot of people like her, she is usually no ones favorite! Most people have her as 2nd 3rd or 4th favorite. SO Some singers that a lot of people dislike, have also a big fan base. Its good to be marmite, like love me or hate me. You will always get the votes. BUt the ones like Ruth are the once you will clap for , but at the end of the day, most will vote for Diana, Laura, Alex or rachel.
Why are you assuming these people are getting the most votes? How do you know Daniel hasn't topped the votes each week? Noone expected Leon to be but it was revealed that Leon was top in every live show last year.
All yours is based on assumption. Its likely she will be in the bottom 2 again in the next few weeks, its not certain. Anything can happen. Besides, most people don't actually start backing one person until at least week 3 or 4 so it can all change for any of them.
Wildcat!
20-10-2008, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
she is going to go soon,because even if a lot of people like her, she is usually no ones favorite! Most people have her as 2nd 3rd or 4th favorite. SO Some singers that a lot of people dislike, have also a big fan base. Its good to be marmite, like love me or hate me. You will always get the votes. BUt the ones like Ruth are the once you will clap for , but at the end of the day, most will vote for Diana, Laura, Alex or rachel.
Why are you assuming these people are getting the most votes? How do you know Daniel hasn't topped the votes each week? Noone expected Leon to be but it was revealed that Leon was top in every live show last year.
All yours is based on assumption. Its likely she will be in the bottom 2 again in the next few weeks, its not certain. Anything can happen. Besides, most people don't actually start backing one person until at least week 3 or 4 so it can all change for any of them.
I am just grouping her with the girls. I have no doubt that the boys are up there in the voting, we all know that, wether they are good or not. I wouldnt be surprised if even Scott got most votes. But evidently, its more difficult for the girls, thats why I compare her with the other females!
GiRTh
20-10-2008, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Noone expected Leon to be but it was revealed that Leon was top in every live show last year.
You're joking right? Leon was top in every live show? If so then the viewing public haven't got a clue.
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
she is going to go soon,because even if a lot of people like her, she is usually no ones favorite! Most people have her as 2nd 3rd or 4th favorite. SO Some singers that a lot of people dislike, have also a big fan base. Its good to be marmite, like love me or hate me. You will always get the votes. BUt the ones like Ruth are the once you will clap for , but at the end of the day, most will vote for Diana, Laura, Alex or rachel.
Why are you assuming these people are getting the most votes? How do you know Daniel hasn't topped the votes each week? Noone expected Leon to be but it was revealed that Leon was top in every live show last year.
All yours is based on assumption. Its likely she will be in the bottom 2 again in the next few weeks, its not certain. Anything can happen. Besides, most people don't actually start backing one person until at least week 3 or 4 so it can all change for any of them.
I am just grouping her with the girls. I have no doubt that the boys are up there in the voting, we all know that, wether they are good or not. I wouldnt be surprised if even Scott got most votes. But evidently, its more difficult for the girls, thats why I compare her with the other females!
But you need to remember that it is more difficult than the girls and Ruth and Girlband are the two acts that never got much coverage compared to the rest of the contestants, who all managed to get a good 2 or 3 minutes (without sob story) compared to literally 20 seconds for Ruth. So I do still think you're assuming but thats why fan bases are like that so early on. As I said, it can still all change. I mean look at Kerry from series 3. Everyone expected her to win and she was eliminated after about 3 weeks.
Wildcat!
20-10-2008, 03:58 PM
Its true, and thats why after the 1st performance by scott and he was crying, I posted, this guy aint goin nowhere, and he might even do a leon and win!
NettoSuperstar!
20-10-2008, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Tom
Noone expected Leon to be but it was revealed that Leon was top in every live show last year.
You're joking right? Leon was top in every live show? If so then the viewing public haven't got a clue.
I think your confusing X factor for serious artist Idol. Noone exceptionaly talented would go on there
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Tom
Noone expected Leon to be but it was revealed that Leon was top in every live show last year.
You're joking right? Leon was top in every live show? If so then the viewing public haven't got a clue.
http://www.heatworld.com/Article/3614/Rhydian-wasnt-as-popular-as-we-thought
Wildcat!
20-10-2008, 04:01 PM
Do you think at this point in time, people voting for Diana, are gonna switch from her to Ruth,no matter what? I seriouly dont think so! People who voted for rachel after she was average on both weeks, they are not gonna change their votes to ruth! The 2 I think coul lose votes if they dont perform for some reason are Laura and Alex, but I still think they have the solid fanbase already!
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Do you think at this point in time, people voting for Diana, are going to switch from her to Ruth,no matter what? I seriouly dont think so! People who voted for rachel after she was average on both weeks, they are not going to change their votes to ruth! The 2 I think coul lose votes if they dont perform for some reason are Laura and Alex, but I still think they have the solid fanbase already!
How do you know people who thought someone was average 2 shows in a row aren't going to switch their votes? And how do you know Diana is firstly, even that popular, and secondly hasn't peaked? When a singer peaks they lose votes.
Billy
20-10-2008, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
she is going to go soon,because even if a lot of people like her, she is usually no ones favorite! Most people have her as 2nd 3rd or 4th favorite. SO Some singers that a lot of people dislike, have also a big fan base. Its good to be marmite, like love me or hate me. You will always get the votes. BUt the ones like Ruth are the once you will clap for , but at the end of the day, most will vote for Diana, Laura, Alex or rachel.
Why are you assuming these people are getting the most votes? How do you know Daniel hasn't topped the votes each week? Noone expected Leon to be but it was revealed that Leon was top in every live show last year.
All yours is based on assumption. Its likely she will be in the bottom 2 again in the next few weeks, its not certain. Anything can happen. Besides, most people don't actually start backing one person until at least week 3 or 4 so it can all change for any of them.
Isn't that just an assumption? :tongue:
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Do you think at this point in time, people voting for Diana, are going to switch from her to Ruth,no matter what? I seriouly dont think so! People who voted for rachel after she was average on both weeks, they are not going to change their votes to ruth! The 2 I think coul lose votes if they dont perform for some reason are Laura and Alex, but I still think they have the solid fanbase already!
How do you know people who thought someone was average 2 shows in a row aren't going to switch their votes? And how do you know Diana is firstly, even that popular, and secondly hasn't peaked? When a singer peaks they lose votes.
I think week 3 will be crucial. Big Band separates the men from the boys, it shows up weaknesses more than anything. People can be drowned out by the band behind them (good luck Eoghan..)
Remember Ashley a couple of years back? He forgot his lines, and found himself out in the early weeks of the competition, despite being one of the favourites. People are ruling out a lot of possibilities at the moment.
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
she is going to go soon,because even if a lot of people like her, she is usually no ones favorite! Most people have her as 2nd 3rd or 4th favorite. SO Some singers that a lot of people dislike, have also a big fan base. Its good to be marmite, like love me or hate me. You will always get the votes. BUt the ones like Ruth are the once you will clap for , but at the end of the day, most will vote for Diana, Laura, Alex or rachel.
Why are you assuming these people are getting the most votes? How do you know Daniel hasn't topped the votes each week? Noone expected Leon to be but it was revealed that Leon was top in every live show last year.
All yours is based on assumption. Its likely she will be in the bottom 2 again in the next few weeks, its not certain. Anything can happen. Besides, most people don't actually start backing one person until at least week 3 or 4 so it can all change for any of them.
Isn't that just an assumption? :tongue:
No. It actually is when people start to support just one person. At the minute everyone likes a couple. In the next fortnight you'll start to see people backing one act and not a few.
Its why Big Band is during week 3- for all the reasons Z said.
Billy
20-10-2008, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
she is going to go soon,because even if a lot of people like her, she is usually no ones favorite! Most people have her as 2nd 3rd or 4th favorite. SO Some singers that a lot of people dislike, have also a big fan base. Its good to be marmite, like love me or hate me. You will always get the votes. BUt the ones like Ruth are the once you will clap for , but at the end of the day, most will vote for Diana, Laura, Alex or rachel.
Why are you assuming these people are getting the most votes? How do you know Daniel hasn't topped the votes each week? Noone expected Leon to be but it was revealed that Leon was top in every live show last year.
All yours is based on assumption. Its likely she will be in the bottom 2 again in the next few weeks, its not certain. Anything can happen. Besides, most people don't actually start backing one person until at least week 3 or 4 so it can all change for any of them.
Isn't that just an assumption? :tongue:
No. It actually is when people start to support just one person. At the minute everyone likes a couple. In the next fortnight you'll start to see people backing one act and not a few.
Its why Big Band is during week 3- for all the reasons Z said.
Yeah but you are just assuming that people will start to support one person, and assuming atm everyone likes a couple? It might be true, but you, me nor anyone else can say it for certain.
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
she is going to go soon,because even if a lot of people like her, she is usually no ones favorite! Most people have her as 2nd 3rd or 4th favorite. SO Some singers that a lot of people dislike, have also a big fan base. Its good to be marmite, like love me or hate me. You will always get the votes. BUt the ones like Ruth are the once you will clap for , but at the end of the day, most will vote for Diana, Laura, Alex or rachel.
Why are you assuming these people are getting the most votes? How do you know Daniel hasn't topped the votes each week? Noone expected Leon to be but it was revealed that Leon was top in every live show last year.
All yours is based on assumption. Its likely she will be in the bottom 2 again in the next few weeks, its not certain. Anything can happen. Besides, most people don't actually start backing one person until at least week 3 or 4 so it can all change for any of them.
Isn't that just an assumption? :tongue:
No. It actually is when people start to support just one person. At the minute everyone likes a couple. In the next fortnight you'll start to see people backing one act and not a few.
Its why Big Band is during week 3- for all the reasons Z said.
Yeah but you are just assuming that people will start to support one person, and assuming atm everyone likes a couple? It might be true, but you, me nor anyone else can say it for certain.
Historically it has happened. I'm not assuming.
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