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Loukas
22-10-2008, 06:15 PM
Do you think the saying 'Once a cheater, Always a cheater' is right?

It means when someone cheats on there lover they will always cheat in other relationships too.


Discuss

Sam!
22-10-2008, 06:17 PM
No idea. I suspose it depends.

"Before anyone asks i have permission to put pics of them on the Internet."

Loukas went around with a clipboard looking for permission and signatures :P lool :tongue:

NettoSuperstar!
22-10-2008, 06:17 PM
No people can change, but lots dont seem to

xDramatick
22-10-2008, 06:17 PM
Nope.
My bf cheated on one of his ex's a few years ago [mainly because they NEVER saw each other and he found it hard to cope without; not making excuses though, it's horrible]
&he was saying to me that he felt really guilty after, and he could never do it again.

NettoSuperstar!
22-10-2008, 06:18 PM
I know a couple of people who have and realised it was the biggest mistake of their lives and would never do it again.

Loukas
22-10-2008, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by Scampi
Loukas went around with a clipboard looking for permission and signatures :P lool :tongue:

Na i asked them if the mind being on the internet with strangers and the people in my sig didnt mind! The hottest ones said no tho :(

~Kizwiz~
22-10-2008, 06:26 PM
I have done it once and I can safely say that I wont do it again

supernoodles!
22-10-2008, 06:31 PM
sometimes yes and sometimes no

me no

ex yes

Annie
22-10-2008, 06:33 PM
I dont think you are ALWAYS a cheater because I believe that when you grow up in life you do change as a person. I have cheated in the past and then there have been relationships where I haven't cheated. Some people however do get a thrill from cheating and the sneaking about and some people just cant keep their pants on. Some people are just mean and don't care about anyone but themselves. But yeah some change

pinkmichk
22-10-2008, 06:36 PM
my ex cheated on me twice so i am not sure cos i dont think everyone is like him i gave him another chance but he threw it back in my face but i have friends who have cheated did it once and never again

supernoodles!
22-10-2008, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Annie
I dont think you are ALWAYS a cheater because I believe that when you grow up in life you do change as a person. I have cheated in the past and then there have been relationships where I haven't cheated. Some people however do get a thrill from cheating and the sneaking about and some people just cant keep their pants on. Some people are just mean and don't care about anyone but themselves. But yeah some change


yeah i think that bout sums it up

~Kizwiz~
22-10-2008, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Annie
I dont think you are ALWAYS a cheater because I believe that when you grow up in life you do change as a person. I have cheated in the past and then there have been relationships where I haven't cheated. Some people however do get a thrill from cheating and the sneaking about and some people just cant keep their pants on. Some people are just mean and don't care about anyone but themselves. But yeah some change

I agree with the growing up bit.... thats one of the main reasons I cheated, we grew apart and I realised I needed more from a relationship

Sam!
22-10-2008, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
Originally posted by Scampi
Loukas went around with a clipboard looking for permission and signatures :P lool :tongue:

Na i asked them if the mind being on the internet with strangers and the people in my sig didnt mind! The hottest ones said no tho :(

Did you actually ask lol. My friends don't even know I come on an internet forum (thankgod) they would take the pisss.

Loukas
22-10-2008, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Scampi
Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
Originally posted by Scampi
Loukas went around with a clipboard looking for permission and signatures :P lool :tongue:

Na i asked them if the mind being on the internet with strangers and the people in my sig didnt mind! The hottest ones said no tho :(

Did you actually ask lol. My friends don't even know I come on an internet forum (thankgod) they would take the pisss.

Now wait. I said nothing about Forums. Just said on the internet. :tongue:

My friends know about TiBB i dont care what they think. Why should i. ;)

Jake!
22-10-2008, 06:48 PM
People change at least I like to think so...

microscope
22-10-2008, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by DoubleTrouble

"Do you think the saying 'Once a cheater, Always a cheater' is right? "

No I don't believe that saying is right. I know people say that, like they say, "Once a thief, Always a thief". But that doesn't mean that is true.

I know someone who cheats all the time. He has no interest in being faithful to any woman. I consider him to be nothing more than a bigot. I can't stand the guy and I feel sorry for the women he hurts and he hurts many.

I know someone else who cheated on his wife and they almost broke up over it. It was a TERRIBLE mistake on his part. He said that it was just a moment of weakness. The man had a few drinks one night at a do and started kissing this woman, ended up in bed together and had sex. But his wife found out from her best friend. Anyway, he has never made that silly mistake again.

I don't believe that just because you cheated once, that you will cheat again. There is NO proof anywhere that a person will cheat again just because they did it once or even twice.

Personally I have never cheated on my girlfriend and never would. I am not interested in hurting her or trying something new. But many people do say that and then fall foul to cheating one night or even having an affair over a period of time. "Chris Tarrant", for instance.

Fom
22-10-2008, 07:19 PM
I admit I cheated on someone when i was 16... but im nearly 19 now and I have grown up a lot. I wouldnt dream of doing it now!

So in this situation that statement is wrong!

microscope
22-10-2008, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Fom

"I admit I cheated on someone when i was 16... but Im nearly 19 now and I have grown up a lot. I wouldnt dream of doing it now!"

Just out of interest. How would you react if your girlfriend was having an affair or had sex with your best friend, lets say?

Fom
22-10-2008, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom

"I admit I cheated on someone when i was 16... but Im nearly 19 now and I have grown up a lot. I wouldnt dream of doing it now!"

Just out of interest. How would you react if your girlfriend was having an affair or had sex with your best friend, lets say?

Erm horribly... like everyone else. As I mentioned, I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16. At 19 I am a little wiser than that!

Jake!
22-10-2008, 07:28 PM
Everyone is (or already have) gonna cheat on one of their partners. Wether you learnfrom it or not is different.

pinkmichk
22-10-2008, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by JustJake
Everyone is (or already have) going to cheat on one of their partners. Wether you learnfrom it or not is different.

that is rubbish i have never cheated and i never will having been on the recieving end of it i think i know how much it hurts but even before that i wouldnt do it

Jake!
22-10-2008, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by JustJake
Everyone is (or already have) going to cheat on one of their partners. Wether you learnfrom it or not is different.

that is rubbish i have never cheated and i never will having been on the recieving end of it i think i know how much it hurts but even before that i wouldnt do it

Fair enough, you proved me wrong, and I'm glad you did. However it is more than likely when your younger you probably will though.

Tom
22-10-2008, 07:32 PM
No. I used to cheat all the time but I haven't bothered for a good while, not in my current relationship or the one before that. I've grown up. I care about how other people other than myself feel now.

supernoodles!
22-10-2008, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by JustJake
Everyone is (or already have) going to cheat on one of their partners. Wether you learnfrom it or not is different.



how do you work that one out?Correct me if I`m wrong but I don`t think you know alot about relationships

Jake!
22-10-2008, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by JustJake
Everyone is (or already have) going to cheat on one of their partners. Wether you learnfrom it or not is different.



how do you work that one out?Correct me if I`m wrong but I don`t think you know alot about relationships

I've been proved wrong already, but I do know enough about relationships so far to last me a lifetime, not as much as others granted but enough, for know...

supernoodles!
22-10-2008, 07:47 PM
ok,sorry

Ross
22-10-2008, 07:49 PM
I cheated on my ex girlfriend when I was 16/17 and it was fun at the time, we ended it a few months later but not because of that, although I did tell her I cheated on her. Now we're really good friends.

Jake!
22-10-2008, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by supernoodles!
ok,sorry

I weren't having a go, you probably know more than me, loads of people here would've, but I wasonly statingthat its almost like you're experimenting when you cheat so that's what I meant by my statement.

microscope
22-10-2008, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom

"I admit I cheated on someone when i was 16... but Im nearly 19 now and I have grown up a lot. I wouldnt dream of doing it now!"

Just out of interest. How would you react if your girlfriend was having an affair or had sex with your best friend, lets say?

Erm horribly... like everyone else. As I mentioned, I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16. At 19 I am a little wiser than that!

I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16.

I underlined that statement Fom.

I'm afraid I must disagree. When I was 16 I never cheated and I know a LOT of others that are very faithful and I'm sure you do to. You can't just pick an age and say that all persons of that age are going to cheat, it simply isn't true!

xDramatick
22-10-2008, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom

"I admit I cheated on someone when i was 16... but Im nearly 19 now and I have grown up a lot. I wouldnt dream of doing it now!"

Just out of interest. How would you react if your girlfriend was having an affair or had sex with your best friend, lets say?

Erm horribly... like everyone else. As I mentioned, I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16. At 19 I am a little wiser than that!

I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16.

I underlined that statement Fom.

I'm afraid I must disagree. When I was 16 I never cheated and I know a LOT of others that are very faithful and I'm sure you do to. You can't just pick an age and say that all persons of that age are going to cheat, it simply isn't true!

I agree.
I totally believe you were a different person then to now, but I'm sixteen and I've not cheated on my bf? Plus there are loads of people in their 20s/30s who cheat.

Jake!
22-10-2008, 07:57 PM
There's different reason's for cheating. I never have, but I'd never say never...

Fom
22-10-2008, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom

"I admit I cheated on someone when i was 16... but Im nearly 19 now and I have grown up a lot. I wouldnt dream of doing it now!"

Just out of interest. How would you react if your girlfriend was having an affair or had sex with your best friend, lets say?

Erm horribly... like everyone else. As I mentioned, I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16. At 19 I am a little wiser than that!

I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16.

I underlined that statement Fom.

I'm afraid I must disagree. When I was 16 I never cheated and I know a LOT of others that are very faithful and I'm sure you do to. You can't just pick an age and say that all persons of that age are going to cheat, it simply isn't true!

I am using the age of '16' as a general, I never stated as a fact. And as my own experience, cheating was a common occurrence from that age, yes some are faithful, but at 16 you are experimenting and to be in one relationship and not get urges for someone else can be tough. I couldn't be in a relationship at 16... you just cant tie yourself down at that age.

Tom
22-10-2008, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom

"I admit I cheated on someone when i was 16... but Im nearly 19 now and I have grown up a lot. I wouldnt dream of doing it now!"

Just out of interest. How would you react if your girlfriend was having an affair or had sex with your best friend, lets say?

Erm horribly... like everyone else. As I mentioned, I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16. At 19 I am a little wiser than that!

I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16.

I underlined that statement Fom.

I'm afraid I must disagree. When I was 16 I never cheated and I know a LOT of others that are very faithful and I'm sure you do to. You can't just pick an age and say that all persons of that age are going to cheat, it simply isn't true!

I'm a much different person than I was when I was 16. Quite frankly if I was the same person I'd be dead. Basically everything about me has changed. Just because you're a similar person doesn't mean other people haven't drastically changed.

microscope
22-10-2008, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by microscope

I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16.

I underlined that statement Fom.

I'm afraid I must disagree. When I was 16 I never cheated and I know a LOT of others that are very faithful and I'm sure you do to. You can't just pick an age and say that all persons of that age are going to cheat, it simply isn't true!

I am using the age of '16' as a general, I never stated as a fact. And as my own experience, cheating was a common occurrence from that age, yes some are faithful, but at 16 you are experimenting and to be in one relationship and not get urges for someone else can be tough. I couldn't be in a relationship at 16... you just cant tie yourself down at that age.

I understand that you feel 16 maybe too young to pick one person and tie yourself down in a serious relationship, that I will agree on. Even though I won't tarnish every 16 year old with the same brush, as that is simply not the case. Many people find love at 16 and never part with each other. But this discussion is about those who may cheat and cheating is not the same as not settling down with one person, is it?

You can be 16 and be with a girl for two weeks and then dump her and find someone else, but you don't have to cheat on her, do you? You can be ethical and end one relationship and then start another. Many dumpings happen by text messages these days.

I do understand that some 16 year olds will cheat as well as many others at older ages, but your generalization of most 16 year olds is rather unfair.

microscope
22-10-2008, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by microscope

I'm afraid I must disagree. "When I was 16 I never cheated and I know a LOT of others that are very faithful and I'm sure you do to. You can't just pick an age and say that all persons of that age are going to cheat, it simply isn't true! "

I'm a much different person than I was when I was 16. Quite frankly if I was the same person I'd be dead. Basically everything about me has changed. Just because you're a similar person doesn't mean other people haven't drastically changed.

I don't understand what you mean!

Why would you be dead if you hadn't changed the way you were at 16. Were you are bad person then?

Tom
22-10-2008, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by microscope

I'm afraid I must disagree. "When I was 16 I never cheated and I know a LOT of others that are very faithful and I'm sure you do to. You can't just pick an age and say that all persons of that age are going to cheat, it simply isn't true! "

I'm a much different person than I was when I was 16. Quite frankly if I was the same person I'd be dead. Basically everything about me has changed. Just because you're a similar person doesn't mean other people haven't drastically changed.

I don't understand what you mean!

Why would you be dead if you hadn't changed the way you were at 16. Were you are bad person then?

If I hadn't killed myself through my lifestyle then someone probably would have killed me for the person I was and how bad/spiteful I could be to some people.

microscope
22-10-2008, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Tom

"I'm a much different person than I was when I was 16. Quite frankly if I was the same person I'd be dead. Basically everything about me has changed. "

I don't understand what you mean!

Why would you be dead if you hadn't changed the way you were at 16. Were you are bad person then?

If I hadn't killed myself through my lifestyle then someone probably would have killed me for the person I was and how bad/spiteful I could be to some people.

So your perception of 16 year olds brings back bad memories of what you once were. You see life today through calmer eyes.

Z
22-10-2008, 10:43 PM
I don't think so, all cases of cheating have a different set of circumstances. Some people cheat because they've fallen in love with the person they're cheating with, others like the thrill of it, others can be seduced in a one off, or a long running relationship.

So based on that, I don't think you're always a cheater if you cheat once.

Tom
22-10-2008, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Tom

"I'm a much different person than I was when I was 16. Quite frankly if I was the same person I'd be dead. Basically everything about me has changed. "

I don't understand what you mean!

Why would you be dead if you hadn't changed the way you were at 16. Were you are bad person then?

If I hadn't killed myself through my lifestyle then someone probably would have killed me for the person I was and how bad/spiteful I could be to some people.

So your perception of 16 year olds brings back bad memories of what you once were. You see life today through calmer eyes.

I don't assume everyone was like I was- they definitely weren't! I just think that people can change a lot and so can their attitudes towards others. So I think its possible to change from someone who used to cheat a lot to someone who is committed.

microscope
22-10-2008, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Tom

"I'm a much different person than I was when I was 16. Quite frankly if I was the same person I'd be dead. Basically everything about me has changed. "

I don't understand what you mean!

Why would you be dead if you hadn't changed the way you were at 16. Were you are bad person then?

If I hadn't killed myself through my lifestyle then someone probably would have killed me for the person I was and how bad/spiteful I could be to some people.

So your perception of 16 year olds brings back bad memories of what you once were. You see life today through calmer eyes.

I don't assume everyone was like I was- they definitely weren't! I just think that people can change a lot and so can their attitudes towards others. So I think its possible to change from someone who used to cheat a lot to someone who is committed.

Well anyway, I'm glad you picked yourself up and became a better person. Some people say, "Lock-em up and throw away the key", but some say that bad people can become better later on in life, some not so later in life like yourself.

Annie
23-10-2008, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom

"I admit I cheated on someone when i was 16... but Im nearly 19 now and I have grown up a lot. I wouldnt dream of doing it now!"

Just out of interest. How would you react if your girlfriend was having an affair or had sex with your best friend, lets say?

Erm horribly... like everyone else. As I mentioned, I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16. At 19 I am a little wiser than that!

I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16.

I underlined that statement Fom.

I'm afraid I must disagree. When I was 16 I never cheated and I know a LOT of others that are very faithful and I'm sure you do to. You can't just pick an age and say that all persons of that age are going to cheat, it simply isn't true!

I think what Fom was doing was generalising an age there. I cheated as well when I was 16 and 17. And looking back I was like wow I was a cow. I didn't do it because I was 16 and I was like "ooooo this is the cheating age better do it while I still can" - thats not what Fom is saying either.

We are saying that you do things when you are younger and you grow up and learn from it and showing that "Once a cheater not always a cheater" like the debate was to begin with.

NettoSuperstar!
23-10-2008, 10:53 AM
Omg what you do at 16 has little bearing on the how your going to be when you grow up! Believe me. Id be dead now also if I still did the dumb things I did when I was 16, and you dont know always know what its really like to hurt someone by cheating on them at that age, until you have a bit of life experience and wise up

microscope
24-10-2008, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Annie
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by microscope
Originally posted by Fom

"I admit I cheated on someone when i was 16... but Im nearly 19 now and I have grown up a lot. I wouldnt dream of doing it now!"

Just out of interest. How would you react if your girlfriend was having an affair or had sex with your best friend, lets say?

Erm horribly... like everyone else. As I mentioned, I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16. At 19 I am a little wiser than that!

I was a different person when I was 16... its something people do at 16.

I underlined that statement Fom.

I'm afraid I must disagree. When I was 16 I never cheated and I know a LOT of others that are very faithful and I'm sure you do to. You can't just pick an age and say that all persons of that age are going to cheat, it simply isn't true!

I think what Fom was doing was generalising an age there. I cheated as well when I was 16 and 17. And looking back I was like wow I was a cow. I didn't do it because I was 16 and I was like "ooooo this is the cheating age better do it while I still can" - thats not what Fom is saying either.

We are saying that you do things when you are younger and you grow up and learn from it and showing that "Once a cheater not always a cheater" like the debate was to begin with.

I know how it feels to be 16 Annie, I crossed that bridge at the time and never felt the urge to cheat with anyone else. I had a girlfriend then and it lasted for a few weeks and as it wasn't working, it was over. Neither of us cheated during that time and after we split, we both found someone else.

You admit that you were a cheat. So perhaps that is why you think MOST 16 year olds shall do exactly what you did.

Annie
24-10-2008, 12:47 PM
^^ Microscope

I hardly admitted that I AM A CHEAT! I said I had cheated in the past. And most 16 year olds will go through something along the same lines. I am not saying everyone will but most people who are in active relationships (aka more than your 2 week relationships) will cheat on their partner.

Sunny_01
24-10-2008, 09:49 PM
I am with Annie & Netto here, I cheated when I was a 15/16 but met my husband at 17 and we have been together ever since without any cheating (to my knowledge lol)

What we do when we has little bearing on what we do when we are older.