X Factor - Alexandra New Favourite

[Red Moon]

X Factor - Alexandra New FavouriteBookies William Hill have slashed Alexandra Burke from 4/1 to 11/8 favourite to win the X Factor with Diana offered at 5/2, Eoghan 11/4 and JLS the outsiders at 5/1.

"After Alexandra's amazing performance on Saturday night she is the one to beat and we can no longer ignore the obvious comparison with Leona Lewis." said William Hill's spokesman Rupert Adams.

The bookmakers' revised betting odds suggest that Dannii has been a mentor for the last time, offering 5/6 that Dannii will not line up as a judge in the X Factor 2009 series. You can get odds of 12/1 that Britney Spears will take her place.

"Dannii had a terrible set of finalists but she has looked alienated in the last few weeks and as we saw with Sharon, Simon can be very ruthless." said William Hill's spokesman Rupert Adams.
Source: CasinoBeacon (http://www.casinobeacon.co.uk/other-betting/entertainment-betting/2008/x-factor-betting/x-factor-news/alexandra-301108.htm
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[MrGaryy]

Thats doesn't say much, at the end of the day, I just don't think many people vote for her or love her.

[Lewis.]

She has always been my favourite

[30stone]

I thought the performance everybody loved was good but not as good as everyone is saying..

[Tom4784]

I discounted the article when they gave 12/1 odds of Britney becoming an X Factor judge....

[30stone]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I discounted the article when they gave 12/1 odds of Britney becoming an X Factor judge....

LOL

[*mazedsalv**]

After he performance of "Listen" she deserves to be in finale, along with Diana.
And :laugh: at 12/1 on Britney to take Dannii's place, I really doubt it, more like 200/1.

[im_not_Britney]

i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Yes, she can't hold a note :thumbs:

[xERFx]

I cant believe that Alex has gone to favourite just coz she did a 'good' perfomance coz thats all it was it wasnt nearly as good as everyone is making out it certainly wasnt amazing it was just 'ok' really

[facethemusic]

Diana to Win.
I dont like Alex :|

[Indierock&roll]

i just really dont like her!
i hope she doesnt win.. good singer wouldnt say she was amazing though and it goes through me too like she forces it out too much its like god give it a rest you wont be able to sing soon!


diana should win!

[Tom]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Thats doesn't say much, at the end of the day, I just don't think many people vote for her or love her.

Why? Proof?

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Alexandra HAS the x factor. Diana is good, but now shes boring because its the same thing week after week. Alexandra is versatile and can put on a show. Diana struggles to screech her way through a song these days.

[xERFx]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Gazbo
Thats doesn't say much, at the end of the day, I just don't think many people vote for her or love her.

Why? Proof?

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Alexandra HAS the x factor. Diana is good, but now shes boring because its the same thing week after week. Alexandra is versatile and can put on a show. Diana struggles to screech her way through a song these days.

Alexandra is boring :sleep:

[XxShortyxX]

Alex or Diana to win for me, I just hoep it's a Alex vs Diana final two.

[Tom]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Gazbo
Thats doesn't say much, at the end of the day, I just don't think many people vote for her or love her.

Why? Proof?

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Alexandra HAS the x factor. Diana is good, but now shes boring because its the same thing week after week. Alexandra is versatile and can put on a show. Diana struggles to screech her way through a song these days.

Alexandra is boring :sleep:

The irony of that coming from someone who supports the even more boring Diana :laugh2:

[xERFx]

not really Alexandra is boring and its not just me that says it diana has a nice personality alex seems to a bit overconfident for my liking

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Yes, she can't hold a note :thumbs:

then in your opinion. she should have never reached past the first audition. accusing diana of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. why then did diana stay and they go? obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you dont. she will win. that will happen.

[Tom]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Yes, she can't hold a note :thumbs:

then in your opinion. she should have never reached past the first audition. accusing diana of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. why then did diana stay and they go? obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you dont. she will win. that will happen.


Then in your opinion. She should have never reached past the first audition. Accusing Alexandra of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. Many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. Why then did Alexandra stay and they go? Obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you don't. She will win. That will happen.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Tom

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Alexandra HAS the x factor. Diana is good, but now shes boring because its the same thing week after week. Alexandra is versatile and can put on a show. Diana struggles to screech her way through a song these days.

each singer cannot change. diana and alexandra are what they are. both have the ability to sing and perform in front of a large audience. but alexandra lacks style and grace. she is not as attractive as diana nor does she stand out like diana. alexandra has a good voice. but not the x factor. diana shall triumph. i would say that alexandra will come third.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
then in your opinion. she should have never reached past the first audition. accusing diana of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. why then did diana stay and they go? obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you dont. she will win. that will happen.

Because she looks sweet and innocent. She has these lovely eyes that are almost hypnotic which gives her a sort presence. There is something about her that just makes you want to pick her up and surround her in cotton wool.

That's what made people like her and her strange little funny voice.... and once your liked people just vote for their favorite no matter how rubbish they are. You see it in threads on TiBB.

She is the real John Sergeant of the X-Factor.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
not really Alexandra is boring and its not just me that says it diana has a nice personality alex seems to a bit overconfident for my liking

i agree. she does love herself and thats a bad trait.

[Tom]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
Originally posted by Tom

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Alexandra HAS the x factor. Diana is good, but now shes boring because its the same thing week after week. Alexandra is versatile and can put on a show. Diana struggles to screech her way through a song these days.

each singer cannot change. diana and alexandra are what they are. both have the ability to sing and perform in front of a large audience. but alexandra lacks style and grace. she is not as attractive as diana nor does she stand out like diana. alexandra has a good voice. but not the x factor. diana shall triumph. i would say that alexandra will come third.

Alexandra has proven she can perform in different styles, she is adaptable and her performances are distinguished from one another. Diana's all merge into one, shes stuck to one genre throughout (bar disco week) and its very sameish. Diana will not win. She will come second.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Yes, she can't hold a note :thumbs:

then in your opinion. she should have never reached past the first audition. accusing diana of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. why then did diana stay and they go? obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you dont. she will win. that will happen.


Then in your opinion. She should have never reached past the first audition. Accusing Alexandra of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. Many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. Why then did Alexandra stay and they go? Obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you don't. She will win. That will happen.

where did i say that alexandra cant hold a note? i never even brought that up. all i did do is point out that singers in those early auditions which never made it through had the ability to hold a note. not all of them naturally. and im not talking about the silly auditions. im talking about the next round.

[Tom]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Yes, she can't hold a note :thumbs:

then in your opinion. she should have never reached past the first audition. accusing diana of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. why then did diana stay and they go? obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you dont. she will win. that will happen.


Then in your opinion. She should have never reached past the first audition. Accusing Alexandra of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. Many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. Why then did Alexandra stay and they go? Obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you don't. She will win. That will happen.

where did i say that alexandra cant hold a note? i never even brought that up. all i did do is point out that singers in those early auditions which never made it through had the ability to hold a note. not all of them naturally. and Im not talking about the silly auditions. Im talking about the next round.

I'm just showing that what you're saying can easily be turned right around on you, and if you say Alex shouldn't have made it past the first audition then that means you think she can't hold a note, because if she did then you'd think she would deserve to go through.

Funny how you change your mind about what you're talking about when its turned around.

[xERFx]

If Alexandra wins she will release an album first single will come out Leona or Beyonce will bring a single out an Alex will fade into the background she just isnt different from any Leona or Beyonce the only difference being that both of them are better singers

[Tom]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
If Alexandra wins she will release an album first single will come out Leona or Beyonce will bring a single out an Alex will fade into the background she just isnt different from any Leona or Beyonce the only difference being that both of them are better singers

If you think Alexandra is like Beyonce then either you're deaf or have no idea about music. I can see the Beyonce comparison, but theres room for more than one.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
If Alexandra wins she will release an album first single will come out Leona or Beyonce will bring a single out an Alex will fade into the background she just isnt different from any Leona or Beyonce the only difference being that both of them are better singers

Alexandra's voice coach, Yvie Burnett, said recently:

People may say she's like Leona Lewis but I work closely with both of them and I think there is a different quality. You'd do different songs with each of them.

They are different singers.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
then in your opinion. she should have never reached past the first audition. accusing diana of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. why then did diana stay and they go? obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you dont. she will win. that will happen.

Because she looks sweet and innocent. She has these lovely eyes that are almost hypnotic which gives her a sort presence. There is something about her that just makes you want to pick her up and surround her in cotton wool.

That's what made people like her and her strange little funny voice.... and once your liked people just vote for their favorite no matter how rubbish they are. You see it in threads on TiBB.

She is the real John Sergeant of the X-Factor.

comparing diana to john sargent is ridiculous. the only reason he got through is because of sympathy voting. or something else. i listened to his interviews and he was right. he resigned at the right time. it wasn't fair. diana is talented. she can sing. john struggled to dance. diana is pretty. john is like a male version of jo brand. they both agree on that similarity. diana has the x factor. john had the no factor. this competition is about the whole package, diana does have those good looks. but she has that different kind of voice. the whole package shall win. just wait for next saturday. she will win that to. JLS shall go first. i know.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
comparing diana to john sargent is ridiculous. the only reason he got through is because of sympathy voting. or something else. i listened to his interviews and he was right. he resigned at the right time. it wasn't fair. diana is talented. she can sing. john struggled to dance. diana is pretty. john is like a male version of jo brand. they both agree on that similarity. diana has the x factor. john had the no factor. this competition is about the whole package, diana does have those good looks. but she has that different kind of voice. the whole package shall win. just wait for next saturday. she will win that to. JLS shall go first. i know.

Not it's not. And here is why I can:

John Sergeant was in a dancing contest, he can't dance properly
Diana Vickers is in a singing contest, she can't sing properly.

and the public keep them in the show week after week, the only difference is that Diana won't fall on her sword.

Diana's only talent is murdering perfectly good songs with a squeaky voice while rubbing her left had gently down the side of her face.

[xERFx]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
If Alexandra wins she will release an album first single will come out Leona or Beyonce will bring a single out an Alex will fade into the background she just isnt different from any Leona or Beyonce the only difference being that both of them are better singers

If you think Alexandra is like Beyonce then either you're deaf or have no idea about music. I can see the Beyonce comparison, but theres room for more than one.

No i am not deaf and i do have an idea about music which is why i know there is a place for Diana in the charts. Alexandra will live in Beyonces shadow end of

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
each singer cannot change. diana and alexandra are what they are. both have the ability to sing and perform in front of a large audience. but alexandra lacks style and grace. she is not as attractive as diana nor does she stand out like diana. alexandra has a good voice. but not the x factor. diana shall triumph. i would say that alexandra will come third.

Alexandra has proven she can perform in different styles, she is adaptable and her performances are distinguished from one another. Diana's all merge into one, shes stuck to one genre throughout (bar disco week) and its very sameish. Diana will not win. She will come second.

i dont really feel that alexandra deserved to get this far. there were better singers. im not talking about just the voice. im talking about the whole package. the x factor. something that alexandra lacks. she oozes with unoriginality. ive heard it all before. some girl with a good voice that bellows out song after song in an average way. nothing original. and nothing exciting. i think you are worried about dianas warbling. dont concern yourself too much. that is a gift. that part of her sound is what gets her through week after week. plus her amazing originality. and beauty.

[xERFx]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
comparing diana to john sargent is ridiculous. the only reason he got through is because of sympathy voting. or something else. i listened to his interviews and he was right. he resigned at the right time. it wasn't fair. diana is talented. she can sing. john struggled to dance. diana is pretty. john is like a male version of jo brand. they both agree on that similarity. diana has the x factor. john had the no factor. this competition is about the whole package, diana does have those good looks. but she has that different kind of voice. the whole package shall win. just wait for next saturday. she will win that to. JLS shall go first. i know.

Not it's not. And here is why I can:

John Sergeant was in a dancing contest, he can't dance properly
Diana Vickers is in a singing contest, she can't sing properly.

and the public keep them in the show week after week, the only difference is that Diana won't fall on her sword.

Diana's only talent is murdering perfectly good songs with a squeaky voice while rubbing her left had gently down the side of her face.

Im sorry yeah but you talk rubbish

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
Im sorry yeah but you talk rubbish

Well I'm sorry Diana sing's rubbish....

[Tom]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
If Alexandra wins she will release an album first single will come out Leona or Beyonce will bring a single out an Alex will fade into the background she just isnt different from any Leona or Beyonce the only difference being that both of them are better singers

If you think Alexandra is like Beyonce then either you're deaf or have no idea about music. I can see the Beyonce comparison, but theres room for more than one.

No i am not deaf and i do have an idea about music which is why i know there is a place for Diana in the charts. Alexandra will live in Beyonces shadow end of

There is a place for both Alexandra and Diana (and also JLS as a matter of fact) but Alexandra could go international and have success, Diana couldn't. Alexandra can reinvent herself and take her success to a new level. Diana is a one trick pony.

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
each singer cannot change. diana and alexandra are what they are. both have the ability to sing and perform in front of a large audience. but alexandra lacks style and grace. she is not as attractive as diana nor does she stand out like diana. alexandra has a good voice. but not the x factor. diana shall triumph. i would say that alexandra will come third.

Alexandra has proven she can perform in different styles, she is adaptable and her performances are distinguished from one another. Diana's all merge into one, shes stuck to one genre throughout (bar disco week) and its very sameish. Diana will not win. She will come second.

i dont really feel that alexandra deserved to get this far. there were better singers. Im not talking about just the voice. Im talking about the whole package. the x factor. something that alexandra lacks. she oozes with unoriginality. ive heard it all before. some girl with a good voice that bellows out song after song in an average way. nothing original. and nothing exciting. i think you are worried about dianas warbling. dont concern yourself too much. that is a gift. that part of her sound is what gets her through week after week. plus her amazing originality. and beauty.

Alexandra has everything. Stage presence, great personality, amazing voice, great performer. THE X FACTOR. She might not be original but neither is anyone else in the industry. There is no such thing as originality anymore, EVERYTHING has been done before and that includes Diana, who is not original in the slightest. I'm not worried about her voice, I don't mind Diana. I'm just realistic.

[30stone]

Im still finding her a bit...:sleep:

her beyonce performance was over rated as all the hype from it..

but them... im not simon cowell lol.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i cant believe this. alexandra the winner. you got to be kidding. there is a significant difference between being able to sing a song well and having the x factor. if you cant work that out you must be deluded. the whole idea of the show is to find someone who stands out above the rest. diana does exactly that and the reasons are obvious.

Yes, she can't hold a note :thumbs:

then in your opinion. she should have never reached past the first audition. accusing diana of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. why then did diana stay and they go? obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you dont. she will win. that will happen.


Then in your opinion. She should have never reached past the first audition. Accusing Alexandra of not being able to hold a note is ridiculous. Many of those who went out in the early part of the show could hold a note. Why then did Alexandra stay and they go? Obviously the judges and the home voters see something that you don't. She will win. That will happen.

where did i say that alexandra cant hold a note? i never even brought that up. all i did do is point out that singers in those early auditions which never made it through had the ability to hold a note. not all of them naturally. and Im not talking about the silly auditions. Im talking about the next round.

I'm just showing that what you're saying can easily be turned right around on you, and if you say Alex shouldn't have made it past the first audition then that means you think she can't hold a note, because if she did then you'd think she would deserve to go through.

Funny how you change your mind about what you're talking about when its turned around.

read it again. red moon brought up that diana couldnt hold a note. i replied by saying that was ridiculous. many who were picked by the judges in the first auditions but never made it past the next could hold a note. if they were that bad. they would have been weeded out then. diana sailed through. there was something about her voice which won them over. time and time again. right upto the final group was chosen. now she is getting through week after week. instead of picking at my post. you should be accepting the inevitable. diana can sing, she has the x factor. and shes going to sail past alexandra.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney should be accepting the inevitable. diana can sing, she has the x factor. and shes going to sail past alexandra.

So what X-Factor does Diana have?

[Tom]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney

read it again. red moon brought up that diana couldnt hold a note. i replied by saying that was ridiculous. many who were picked by the judges in the first auditions but never made it past the next could hold a note. if they were that bad. they would have been weeded out then. diana sailed through. there was something about her voice which won them over. time and time again. right upto the final group was chosen. now she is getting through week after week. instead of picking at my post. you should be accepting the inevitable. diana can sing, she has the x factor. and shes going to sail past alexandra.

Alexandra sailed through. There was something about her voice which won them over. Time and time again. Right up to the final group was chosen. Now she is getting through week after week. :thumbs:

[Adamw92]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
comparing diana to john sargent is ridiculous. the only reason he got through is because of sympathy voting. or something else. i listened to his interviews and he was right. he resigned at the right time. it wasn't fair. diana is talented. she can sing. john struggled to dance. diana is pretty. john is like a male version of jo brand. they both agree on that similarity. diana has the x factor. john had the no factor. this competition is about the whole package, diana does have those good looks. but she has that different kind of voice. the whole package shall win. just wait for next saturday. she will win that to. JLS shall go first. i know.

Not it's not. And here is why I can:

John Sergeant was in a dancing contest, he can't dance properly
Diana Vickers is in a singing contest, she can't sing properly.

and the public keep them in the show week after week, the only difference is that Diana won't fall on her sword.

Diana's only talent is murdering perfectly good songs with a squeaky voice while rubbing her left had gently down the side of her face.

That's your opinion but obviously she can sing otherwise she wouldn't be in the show

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
comparing diana to john sargent is ridiculous. the only reason he got through is because of sympathy voting. or something else. i listened to his interviews and he was right. he resigned at the right time. it wasn't fair. diana is talented. she can sing. john struggled to dance. diana is pretty. john is like a male version of jo brand. they both agree on that similarity. diana has the x factor. john had the no factor. this competition is about the whole package, diana does have those good looks. but she has that different kind of voice. the whole package shall win. just wait for next saturday. she will win that to. JLS shall go first. i know.

Not it's not. And here is why I can:

John Sergeant was in a dancing contest, he can't dance properly
Diana Vickers is in a singing contest, she can't sing properly.

and the public keep them in the show week after week, the only difference is that Diana won't fall on her sword.

Diana's only talent is murdering perfectly good songs with a squeaky voice while rubbing her left had gently down the side of her face.

whats your definition of a good voice? whats your definition of a good singer? if "strictly come dancing" had as many applicants as the x factor. john sargent would have been voted off from day one. the whole concept of "strictly come dancing" differs to the x factor. none of those performing are celebrities. none of those performing have an experienced singer performing with them. it is not x factor the duos. is it? with the dancing competiton there are two involved. one experienced and one inexperienced. john sargent knows his place. its not his fault that he got as far as he did. it is those at home. but diana has been praised by the judges more often than not. she has won over the majority of home voters. in your opinion you dont like her voice. that is understandable. i dont like rod stewarts voice. i dont like damon alburns voice. but that doesnt mean they are talentless. once again. hand movements are nothing more than a nervous habit. rick astley had a way of moving while he performed. it was amusing. people picked up on that. but hes won an award recently, hasnt he.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by im_not_Britney

read it again. red moon brought up that diana couldnt hold a note. i replied by saying that was ridiculous. many who were picked by the judges in the first auditions but never made it past the next could hold a note. if they were that bad. they would have been weeded out then. diana sailed through. there was something about her voice which won them over. time and time again. right upto the final group was chosen. now she is getting through week after week. instead of picking at my post. you should be accepting the inevitable. diana can sing, she has the x factor. and shes going to sail past alexandra.

Alexandra sailed through. There was something about her voice which won them over. Time and time again. Right up to the final group was chosen. Now she is getting through week after week. :thumbs:

its just the way it goes. we are now at the point whereby the judges have no input at the very end. it is all upto the voters at home. this is where they shall weed out the rot. but many vote. its always going to be close. but when it comes to the very last day. diana shall be there and her eyes shall be crying tears of joy. it shall be magnificent. if alexandra comes second. i wish her well. i hold nothing against her other than she is not really x factor material. she is a good singer thus getting this far. but the next few weeks will prove im right.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
whats your definition of a good voice? whats your definition of a good singer? if "strictly come dancing" had as many applicants as the x factor. john sargent would have been voted off from day one. the whole concept of "strictly come dancing" differs to the x factor. none of those performing are celebrities. none of those performing have an experienced singer performing with them. it is not x factor the duos. is it? with the dancing competiton there are two involved. one experienced and one inexperienced. john sargent knows his place. its not his fault that he got as far as he did. it is those at home. but diana has been praised by the judges more often than not. she has won over the majority of home voters. in your opinion you dont like her voice. that is understandable. i dont like rod stewarts voice. i dont like damon alburns voice. but that doesnt mean they are talentless. once again. hand movements are nothing more than a nervous habit. rick astley had a way of moving while he performed. it was amusing. people picked up on that. but hes won an award recently, hasnt he.

Someone that can hold a pure not without letting it slide. It's a bit of a basic singing skill. If you can't do that then you're wasting your time. What Diana demonstrates is what Simon would normally call a bad habit. However in Diana's case, I fear it is a chronic condition that she can't recover from. She going to be stuck with it for the rest of her life.

As for the Strictly stuff and the similarities. It didn't matter what John did he could not have got voted off the show, it just wasn't going to happen and the same can be said of Diana. She is getting worse rather than better as the show goes on and when she is clearly the weakest act she still gets to stay. It the way people vote for favorites not the best performance of the week.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney should be accepting the inevitable. diana can sing, she has the x factor. and shes going to sail past alexandra.

So what X-Factor does Diana have?

i've already said. she has a different kind of voice. something which appeals to a lot of us. those being the majority of home voters. something which has been indeed spotted by the judges. it is impossible to describe. being pretty helps. but you need a lot more than that. plus beauty is only skin deep. its whats inside that matters the most. she has both. and the x factor. of course.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
i've already said. she has a different kind of voice. something which appeals to a lot of us. those being the majority of home voters. something which has been indeed spotted by the judges. it is impossible to describe. being pretty helps. but you need a lot more than that. plus beauty is only skin deep. its whats inside that matters the most. she has both. and the x factor. of course.

You mean the cuddly factor?

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
whats your definition of a good voice? whats your definition of a good singer? if "strictly come dancing" had as many applicants as the x factor. john sargent would have been voted off from day one. the whole concept of "strictly come dancing" differs to the x factor. none of those performing are celebrities. none of those performing have an experienced singer performing with them. it is not x factor the duos. is it? with the dancing competiton there are two involved. one experienced and one inexperienced. john sargent knows his place. its not his fault that he got as far as he did. it is those at home. but diana has been praised by the judges more often than not. she has won over the majority of home voters. in your opinion you dont like her voice. that is understandable. i dont like rod stewarts voice. i dont like damon alburns voice. but that doesnt mean they are talentless. once again. hand movements are nothing more than a nervous habit. rick astley had a way of moving while he performed. it was amusing. people picked up on that. but hes won an award recently, hasnt he.

Someone that can hold a pure not without letting it slide. It's a bit of a basic singing skill. If you can't do that then you're wasting your time. What Diana demonstrates is what Simon would normally call a bad habit. However in Diana's case, I fear it is a chronic condition that she can't recover from. She going to be stuck with it for the rest of her life.

As for the Strictly stuff and the similarities. It didn't matter what John did he could not have got voted off the show, it just wasn't going to happen and the same can be said of Diana. She is getting worse rather than better as the show goes on and when she is clearly the weakest act she still gets to stay. It the way people vote for favorites not the best performance of the week.

you are right about diana being stuck with that kind of voice. the same can be said about all singers i feel. whatever your voice is like. you have to put up with. you are also telling me how you perceive what a good voice should sound like. i did ask you the question but also you must realise "like i keep saying" it is the whole package that matters. the judges chose her. there was absolutely no input from home voters until they had decided themselves who was going to be in the final selection. from what you have pointed out here. you feel that all the judges are useless. you are saying that every one of them chose a girl who cannot sing properly. this sounds ludicrous. even the majority of home voters have agreed that diana can sing and she has the x factor. if that wasnt true. she would have gone out instead of bad lashes. but she didnt. did she? she has stayed in. she is still there. each week she sails through.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
you are right about diana being stuck with that kind of voice. the same can be said about all singers i feel. whatever your voice is like. you have to put up with. you are also telling me how you perceive what a good voice should sound like. i did ask you the question but also you must realise "like i keep saying" it is the whole package that matters. the judges chose her. there was absolutely no input from home voters until they had decided themselves who was going to be in the final selection. from what you have pointed out here. you feel that all the judges are useless. you are saying that every one of them chose a girl who cannot sing properly. this sounds ludicrous. even the majority of home voters have agreed that diana can sing and she has the x factor. if that wasnt true. she would have gone out instead of bad lashes. but she didnt. did she? she has stayed in. she is still there. each week she sails through.

Okay lets agree to disagree that she can sing or not. We are never going to sort that one out, even if it does crop up again.

How do you know that the majority of home voters have agreed that Diana can sing? Unless you have access to the voting figures you don't know how people are voting. Your claiming she has over 50% of the vote on what grounds? How do you know she sails through?

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
you are right about diana being stuck with that kind of voice. the same can be said about all singers i feel. whatever your voice is like. you have to put up with. you are also telling me how you perceive what a good voice should sound like. i did ask you the question but also you must realise "like i keep saying" it is the whole package that matters. the judges chose her. there was absolutely no input from home voters until they had decided themselves who was going to be in the final selection. from what you have pointed out here. you feel that all the judges are useless. you are saying that every one of them chose a girl who cannot sing properly. this sounds ludicrous. even the majority of home voters have agreed that diana can sing and she has the x factor. if that wasnt true. she would have gone out instead of bad lashes. but she didnt. did she? she has stayed in. she is still there. each week she sails through.

Okay lets agree to disagree that she can sing or not. We are never going to sort that one out, even if it does crop up again.

How do you know that the majority of home voters have agreed that Diana can sing? Unless you have access to the voting figures you don't know how people are voting. Your claiming she has over 50% of the vote on what grounds? How do you know she sails through?

thats fair enough about agreeing to disagree. i just wanted to get my point across. im sick of hearing about people prodding her about her voice all the time. what she has is how it is. the judges spotted something. and chose to keep her in. and then the public cast their votes. the other point about majority votes. i made an error in my previous post. sorry. what i meant to say is that she has received a generous proportion of the overall vote. im not privy to what proportion that is exactly. i doubt anyone would know that except the x factor execs. or bt. i hope that clears that up.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
thats fair enough about agreeing to disagree. i just wanted to get my point across. Im sick of hearing about people prodding her about her voice all the time. what she has is how it is. the judges spotted something. and chose to keep her in. and then the public cast their votes. the other point about majority votes. i made an error in my previous post. sorry. what i meant to say is that she has received a generous proportion of the overall vote. Im not privy to what proportion that is exactly. i doubt anyone would know that except the x factor execs. or bt. i hope that clears that up.

It does, and thank you.... I have enjoyed the debate.

Looking round this place it looks like she will make the final. I think at the end of the day come the final she could be pushed into second place.

But that would be a good result for the girl. She would still get a record deal but she could take a back seat from all the press. The pressure would be less for her and that would allow her be developed slowly and quietly into a recording artist.

[im_not_Britney]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by im_not_Britney
thats fair enough about agreeing to disagree. i just wanted to get my point across. Im sick of hearing about people prodding her about her voice all the time. what she has is how it is. the judges spotted something. and chose to keep her in. and then the public cast their votes. the other point about majority votes. i made an error in my previous post. sorry. what i meant to say is that she has received a generous proportion of the overall vote. Im not privy to what proportion that is exactly. i doubt anyone would know that except the x factor execs. or bt. i hope that clears that up.

It does, and thank you.... I have enjoyed the debate.

Looking round this place it looks like she will make the final. I think at the end of the day come the final she could be pushed into second place.

But that would be a good result for the girl. She would still get a record deal but she could take a back seat from all the press. The pressure would be less for her and that would allow her be developed slowly and quietly into a recording artist.

yes i enjoyed it to. i shall try to make some time to post some more. it will get more exciting towards the end of the x factor. not long now. i wont talk about your predictions for dianas future once she loses. because im saying that she will win. if i did that. it would be silly. its just the way it is. hope you understand.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by im_not_Britney
yes i enjoyed it to. i shall try to make some time to post some more. it will get more exciting towards the end of the x factor. not long now. i wont talk about your predictions for dianas future once she loses. because Im saying that she will win. if i did that. it would be silly. its just the way it is. hope you understand.

Of course I understand. It's like Louis keeping his own acts in no matter what, it is the done thing to support your act. That's the X-Factor.

[GiRTh]

I'm not surprised she's favourite. It’s about time. The two performances she gave on Saturday must rank as the best two performances ever given by one contestant in the same show.

There are too many people saying she's too similar to this one or that one etc. I think that’s bull. I don’t remember Leona putting in two performances like Alex put in on Saturday during her whole time on the X-Factor. I agree with the voice coach, Alex is different from Leona and at this stage in her career is showing more adaptability that Leona - Where as Leona won singing 13 or 14 ballads in 16 performances, Alex has already proved she's can sing ballads, up-tempo songs and dance while singing. I think she’s potentially as good as Leona if not better.

[xERFx]

Leona is a better singer than Alex by a mile. Leona contantly got praise off the judges Alex hasnt, she is just so forgetable

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
Leona is a better singer than Alex by a mile. Leona contantly got praise off the judges Alex hasnt, she is just so forgetable I wont forget her two performances on Saturday.

She was criticised before the judges realised how good she was. It didn't take long for them to change their minds.

[xERFx]

Well ive heard on the forums and i know people who agree so im not alone in thinking it

[Red Moon]

According to the X-factor insider on This Morning, the votes are really close, and it sounded like Alexandra and JLS are in the bottom two. She was stressing that people need to vote for them if they are going to make the final. Thing is if she not urging people to vote for the witch and the imp, then they are already in the final.

[Greg.!]

Diana Will Be Out Next,
JLS Will Come 3rd
Alexandra Will Come 2nd
Eoghan Will Win:cloud:

[NettoSuperstar!]

I wasnt over keen on her version of Toxic the second song was good but Id never heard of it not my cup of tea. Shes a good singer but not worthy of the gushing that happened on Saturday I just think they were trying to get her more votes as it would be a travesty if she went b4 Egg or JLS

[GiRTh]

At least she sang it live. Thats something I'm not even sure Britney's done.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Well Britney was a dissapointment she looked hot but she could have sung bloomin live and met the contestants

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Well Britney was a dissapointment she looked hot but she could have sung bloomin live and met the contestants Exactly..:thumbs:

[Z]

Originally posted by Red Moon

Not it's not. And here is why I can:

John Sergeant was in a dancing contest, he can't dance properly
Diana Vickers is in a singing contest, she can't sing properly.

and the public keep them in the show week after week, the only difference is that Diana won't fall on her sword.

Diana's only talent is murdering perfectly good songs with a squeaky voice while rubbing her left had gently down the side of her face.


HAHAHAHAHA Red I love you, that's going in my signature. Ahahaha.

[30stone]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I wasnt over keen on her version of Toxic the second song was good but Id never heard of it not my cup of tea. Shes a good singer but not worthy of the gushing that happened on Saturday I just think they were trying to get her more votes as it would be a travesty if she went b4 Egg or JLS

completely agree i think for how much people were going on about both performances she wasnt all that.

[supernoodles!]

alex to win,glad shes favourite,should have been ruth but ah well...all of ruths fans will support alex now,or at least i hope they will.:hugesmile:

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
alex to win,glad shes favourite,should have been ruth but ah well...all of ruths fans will support alex now,or at least i hope they will.:hugesmile:

Well Ruth on the Radio and the TV has urged her fans to vote for Alex, while saving enough votes for JLS to get through to the final.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I wasnt over keen on her version of Toxic the second song was good but Id never heard of it not my cup of tea. Shes a good singer but not worthy of the gushing that happened on Saturday I just think they were trying to get her more votes as it would be a travesty if she went b4 Egg or JLS

completely agree i think for how much people were going on about both performances she wasnt all that. Have you seen anyone put in TWO performances like that in the same show? If so who?

She's going from strength to strangth. She sang two completely different type of songs and adapted her performance accordingly to give two completely different types performances. She was awesome on Saturday. She did something that no one has ever previously done on X-Factor. Even Leona.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Leona Lewis was better more emotive gave me goose bumps I dont get that with Alex, shes a good singer but I just dont get it

[NettoSuperstar!]

Having said that Diana and Alex are on a par with me right now we'll have to see what happens next couple of weeks

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Having said that Diana and Alex are on a par with me right now we'll have to see what happens next couple of weeks LMAO

You're kidding right. Diana hasn't put in a good performance for at least three weeks. Surely you must see that she's peaked and is on the downward slide.

On to Leona, Leona may have sung ballads better than Alex but Alexs consistently good performances when given up tempo songs give her the edge. I remember Leona dancing to Could it be Magic; laughable is the only word I use to describe it. Compare that to Alex dancing while singing Toxic. Theres no comparison. Alex has shown, at this early point in her career, she can put on a show with high quality singing and dancing. She not just a ballad singer or a quirky screechy wailing singer. She's a talented all round singer and entertainer . If she could tell jokes then she'd be perfect.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Having said that Diana and Alex are on a par with me right now we'll have to see what happens next couple of weeks LMAO

You're kidding right. Diana hasn't put in a good performance for at least three weeks. Surely you must see that she's peaked and is on the downward slide.

On to Leona, Leona may have sung ballads better than Alex but Alexs consistently good performances when given up tempo songs give her the edge. I remember Leona dancing to Could it be Magic; laughable is the only word I use to describe it. Compare that to Alex dancing while singing Toxic. Theres no comparison. Alex has shown that she can put on a show with high quality singing and dancing. She not just a ballad singer or a quirky screechy wailing singer. She's a talented all round singer and etertainer . If she could tell jokes then she'd be perfect.

I dont care about the dancing I wish they wouldnt to be honest theyre singers. shes got a good voice Its just not my cup of tea

[NettoSuperstar!]

and Diana has had a confidence knock thats all I think the end of britney song was good and everybody hurts was good not Wow though. she still has the edge for me because the others dont have an edge

[Tom4784]

I don't think it matters who wins in between these two, their both gonna get recording contracts. They're both fantastic in different ways.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
and Diana has had a confidence knock thats all I think the end of britney song was good and everybody hurts was good not Wow though. she still has the edge for me because the others dont have an edge LMAO

What edge? Even Louis has picked up on the fact that she does the same thing every week. And for Louis to pick up on it then it must be obvious. I almost dread her performances because I know exactly whats coming and I have to brace myself for the screeching and yelping.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
and Diana has had a confidence knock thats all I think the end of britney song was good and everybody hurts was good not Wow though. she still has the edge for me because the others dont have an edge LMAO

What edge? Even Louis has picked up on the fact that she does the same thing every week. And for Louis to pick up on it then it must be obvious. I almost dread her performances because I know exactly whats coming and I have to brace myself for the screeching and yelping.

she has a distinctive voice of course its going to sound the same I love the screeching and yelping there the best bits, we obviouslye have different tastes in music

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
she has a distinctive voice of course its going to sound the same I love the screeching and yelping there the best bits, we obviouslye have different tastes in music Just because her voice is distinctive it doesn't mean all he songs will sound the same. Otis Redding had a very distictive voice. To the point where you can easily recognise his voice after just a few seconds of any track. Rumour has it he NEVER sang the same song the same way twice.

Her fans should stop making excuses for her.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Im not making excuses I like her voice and the screeching and yelping

[Tom4784]

Diana's got a type of voice that normal X Factor fans won't understand sicne it's not a pop voice. If she wasn't in the x factor she could have become a big indie songstress I think. Her voice has got the 'perfection in imperfection' vibe that's present in a lot of indie acts.

[GiRTh]

If she was an Indie artist then most of the discussions about her would be meaningless. But this is a singing competiton and I dont believe she is a strong enough singer to have made the final 12 in a singing competition.

[XxShortyxX]

I agree Dezzy, I think some people don't like it because we have never heard a voice like that on the X Factor.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Dezzy
Diana's got a type of voice that normal X Factor fans won't understand sicne it's not a pop voice. If she wasn't in the x factor she could have become a big indie songstress I think. Her voice has got the 'perfection in imperfection' vibe that's present in a lot of indie acts.

yeh man i like the imperfections:bigsmile:

[XxShortyxX]

It stop being a singing competition when Leon won.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by GiRTh
If she was an Indie artist then most of the discussions about her would be meaningless. But this is a singing competiton and I dont believe she is a strong enough singer to have made the final 12 in a singing competition.

Its not just the singing thats why its called the X factor

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by GiRTh
If she was an Indie artist then most of the discussions about her would be meaningless. But this is a singing competiton and I dont believe she is a strong enough singer to have made the final 12 in a singing competition.

Its not just the singing thats why its called the X factor Its called X-Factor so that Simon Cowell doesnt have to pay Simon Fuller for the rights to the idea for Pop Idol. Other than that its a singing contest and she's not a strong enough singer to still be there.

[Tom4784]

I think it's kinda unfair to compare Alex and Diana in a way since they are apart of different singing disciplines. You wouldn't compare Whitney Houston with Laura Marling since they do completely different styles. Alexandra wouldn't be too great at singing the Blower's daughter because her voice is too belty while Diana would fail at a big belty song because her voice is suited to Lo Fi affairs. In Alex's performances it's her amazing voice and diva-esque perfroamcnes that give her personality while with Diana it's more stripped down, it's just her voice and one or two instruments. They're just two different to compare. Both are amazing though.

[XxShortyxX]

I agree again Dezzy lol you talk sense :thumbs:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I think it's kinda unfair to compare Alex and Diana in a way since they are apart of different singing disciplines. You wouldn't compare Whitney Houston with Laura Marling since they do completely different styles. Alexandra wouldn't be too great at singing the Blower's daughter because her voice is too belty while Diana would fail at a big belty song because her voice is suited to Lo Fi affairs. In Alex's performances it's her amazing voice and diva-esque perfroamcnes that give her personality while with Diana it's more stripped down, it's just her voice and one or two instruments. They're just two different to compare. Both are amazing though.

yeh you dont have to be technically perfect to be a good singer either Imo

[robb]

Just to say, that if there is any SHRED of credibility left of this year's XF, after Saturday's travesty of justice, then Alex HAS to win.

[xERFx]

Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I wasnt over keen on her version of Toxic the second song was good but Id never heard of it not my cup of tea. Shes a good singer but not worthy of the gushing that happened on Saturday I just think they were trying to get her more votes as it would be a travesty if she went b4 Egg or JLS

completely agree i think for how much people were going on about both performances she wasnt all that.

I agree

[xERFx]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I wasnt over keen on her version of Toxic the second song was good but Id never heard of it not my cup of tea. Shes a good singer but not worthy of the gushing that happened on Saturday I just think they were trying to get her more votes as it would be a travesty if she went b4 Egg or JLS

completely agree i think for how much people were going on about both performances she wasnt all that. Have you seen anyone put in TWO performances like that in the same show? If so who?

She's going from strength to strangth. She sang two completely different type of songs and adapted her performance accordingly to give two completely different types performances. She was awesome on Saturday. She did something that no one has ever previously done on X-Factor. Even Leona.

no i havnt actually seen TWO perfomances like that:

Toxic- Ruined a perfectly good song
Listen- made a good ballad sound boring

[gavinh2008]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9

no i havnt actually seen TWO perfomances like that:

Toxic- Ruined a perfectly good song
Listen- made a good ballad sound boring

Well in your opinion, but the majority find that Alexandra was the best of the night on Saturday, Toxic was amazing, at least that wasnt boring and had the best production than any other performance. Listen was really good, she was great singing it so

[Z]

Originally posted by ERF-Saratowinbb9
Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I wasnt over keen on her version of Toxic the second song was good but Id never heard of it not my cup of tea. Shes a good singer but not worthy of the gushing that happened on Saturday I just think they were trying to get her more votes as it would be a travesty if she went b4 Egg or JLS

completely agree i think for how much people were going on about both performances she wasnt all that. Have you seen anyone put in TWO performances like that in the same show? If so who?

She's going from strength to strangth. She sang two completely different type of songs and adapted her performance accordingly to give two completely different types performances. She was awesome on Saturday. She did something that no one has ever previously done on X-Factor. Even Leona.

no i havnt actually seen TWO perfomances like that:

Toxic- Ruined a perfectly good song
Listen- made a good ballad sound boring

?!

I'd just like to pick you up on a couple of points - none of Britney's tracks are good songs in terms of lyrical ability, all of Britney's career is based on the performances she gives - Alexandra gave a performance on par with one that Britney would give. Did Diana, Eoghan, JLS or Ruth manage that on Saturday? No they did not.

If you think that her version of Listen was boring, by default you think all ballads are boring, thereby negating your argument - ballads are slow paced songs, she hit all the notes correctly and actually had variation to her voice.


I just don't get why people feel the need to rubbish the artists completely because they don't like them - I'm not really a fan of Diana or Eoghan, but I don't go around saying they "ruined" songs.