Mob mutilate and kill paedo Andrew Cunningham

[lily.]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2030363.ece


MURDERED pervert Andrew Cunningham was targeted by hate mobs who yelled “Die, paedo, die” at him.

And a police source said: “He was loathed by a large number of people so we have a lot of potential suspects.”

Cunningham, 52, died from multiple stab wounds to the head, neck and chest. And the source revealed: “Damage was caused to his genitals.”

The dead man worked as a trucker for the Riverside Haulage company in Wandsworth, South West London — and lived in a tatty caravan at the firm’s depot.

But his warped lust for children had made him enemies for YEARS.

He spent four months behind bars in 2001 for raping a schoolgirl under 13.

He was arrested again in 2003 but no charges were pressed.

Soon afterwards vigilantes set fire to his former home in a Wandsworth street after discovering he was brazenly grooming kids.

He fled and set up in the caravan. But drinkers at a pub recently accused him of fondling a barmaid’s two-year-old daughter.

And mobs drove past the depot shouting he was scum and a “nonce” who should die.

The police source said his murder was “almost certainly connected to new offences rather than those that took place in 2001”.

Cunningham was a father of five estranged from a former partner.

Police, who believe more than one person was involved in the killing, had to identify him using fingerprints because none of his relatives would go to the morgue.

The pervert’s body was found by his boss after he failed to start work on Wednesday morning.

The employer, who would not give his name, said there was no sign of forced entry at the caravan.

He added: “He had a stab wound in his neck and there was blood everywhere. The bed was soaked with it and his head was lying in it.”

A former neighbour from the Wandsworth street told how Cunningham regularly got a “hiding” from people who knew about his vile behaviour.

Joe Hart, 46, said: “He used to befriend young lads and invite them round, letting them do what they wanted in his home. He’d ask the boys to bring over young girls, then make passes at them.”

Police are studying CCTV film from around the murder scene. And they appealed for anyone who saw anything suspicious to come forward.





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The first thing that struck me about this story was the fact that he received a 4-month sentence for raping a 13 yr old girl.

I also have to admit to thinking: "Good, one less beast on the planet".

I know mob-rule is not the answer, but surely the government have to sit up and take notice of the fact that it's the lenient sentences imposed on these kind of people which lead to this kind of incident.. It's hardly surprising that it got to this point, as the people in the community obviously felt he was a danger to the kids in the community, and probably felt that the police weren't going to do anything to protect the kids.

What are your thoughts on this story?

[Spike]

He deserved it, i'm glad he died

[Lauren]

I'm not going to deny I'm part of the mob mentality on this one, and have very hypocritical thoughts on this. Good. I'm very glad of the final outcome.

That's all I'm saying.

(Apart from my obvious dismay at 4 months for raping a 13 year old girl?!)

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Lauren
I'm not going to deny I'm part of the mob mentality on this one, and have very hypocritical thoughts on this. Good. I'm very glad of the final outcome.

That's all I'm saying.

(Apart from my obvious dismay at 4 months for raping a 13 year old girl?!)

Yeh My political correctness falls down when it comes to paedos but I dont condone vigilante mobs. Once a paediatrician got battered mistakenly!

[lily.]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Lauren
I'm not going to deny I'm part of the mob mentality on this one, and have very hypocritical thoughts on this. Good. I'm very glad of the final outcome.

That's all I'm saying.

(Apart from my obvious dismay at 4 months for raping a 13 year old girl?!)

Yeh My political correctness falls down when it comes to paedos but I dont condone vigilante mobs. Once a paediatrician got battered mistakenly!

By a dyslexic mob?


LoL.. sorry, couldn't resist.. hehe

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Freyja
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Lauren
I'm not going to deny I'm part of the mob mentality on this one, and have very hypocritical thoughts on this. Good. I'm very glad of the final outcome.

That's all I'm saying.

(Apart from my obvious dismay at 4 months for raping a 13 year old girl?!)

Yeh My political correctness falls down when it comes to paedos but I dont condone vigilante mobs. Once a paediatrician got battered mistakenly!

By a dyslexic mob?


LoL.. sorry, couldn't resist.. hehe

yeh I know mad innit shoudnt laugh but...lol

[supernoodles!]

Well i don`t agree with murder ,end of,reguardless of who it is.Imo this man did deserve to die but it doesn`t make it right that he was killed.However I`m not too worried about the fact that theres one less sicko living amongst us.
I agree with what you say about the government needing to take more notice of the fact that if this sicko was given a longer sentence instead of the laughable 4month stretch inside then maybe this would not have happened and the sufferring and abuse he`s caused other other children since the rape of the 13yr old girl may have been prevented.
4months for raping a 13 yr old girl is a absolute joke ,its a known fact that the majority of pedo`s go on to re-offend so why the hell let him out!They are a sick twisted bunch of people who once convicted should never be let out again

[NettoSuperstar!]

Also they and high risk sex offenders are people I would like to be removed from society permanently(In a prison I mean) or until deemed "cured" if thats possible by a Psych not just when their shitty joke of a sentence is up

[lily.]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Once a paediatrician got battered mistakenly!

Seriously though, I see what you mean, because if the wrong person is targeted by a hate-mob then what happens? They kill him and then say.. "oh, sorry old chap.. I'm afraid it was a case of mistaken identity.. no harm done"..

The police don't always get it right and they have all the evidence, so there's no chance of a vigilante mobe getting it right all the time.

However, I think the reason people aren't too bothered about this story is because we know for a fact that this man raped a child, and now he's dead. So it leaves decent, law-abiding citizens smiling and thinking: "Karma's a bitch isn't it?"


Originally posted by supernoodles!
They are a sick twisted bunch of people who once convicted should never be let out again

That's the opinion of the majority of the public, yet our laws don't reflect it. Makes me wonder if things will ever change, because the way I view it, the UK is a great place for paedophiles to live, as they can basically commit the most heinous of crimes and yet be walking free a few months later.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Freyja
Seriously though, I see what you mean, because if the wrong person is targeted by a hate-mob then what happens? They kill him and then say.. "oh, sorry old chap.. I'm afraid it was a case of mistaken identity.. no harm done"..

The police don't always get it right and they have all the evidence, so there's no chance of a vigilante mobe getting it right all the time.

However, I think the reason people aren't too bothered about this story is because we know for a fact that this man raped a child, and now he's dead. So it leaves decent, law-abiding citizens smiling and thinking: "Karma's a bitch isn't it?"

yeh I think its happened to people with the same name as a paedo aswell I seem to remember reading.

[lily.]

Yeah, it has.. same or similar name, and bang, yer guna get a kicking.

Do you think they can be "cured"? I have read a lot of professional opinions on it and most seem to think they can't be.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Freyja
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Once a paediatrician got battered mistakenly!

Seriously though, I see what you mean, because if the wrong person is targeted by a hate-mob then what happens? They kill him and then say.. "oh, sorry old chap.. I'm afraid it was a case of mistaken identity.. no harm done"..

The police don't always get it right and they have all the evidence, so there's no chance of a vigilante mobe getting it right all the time.

However, I think the reason people aren't too bothered about this story is because we know for a fact that this man raped a child, and now he's dead. So it leaves decent, law-abiding citizens smiling and thinking: "Karma's a bitch isn't it?"


Originally posted by supernoodles!
They are a sick twisted bunch of people who once convicted should never be let out again

That's the opinion of the majority of the public, yet our laws don't reflect it. Makes me wonder if things will ever change, because the way I view it, the UK is a great place for paedophiles to live, as they can basically commit the most heinous of crimes and yet be walking free a few months later.


maybe thats why there are so many who continue to re offend and so many that abuse children and it just goes un noticed.Its just too easy for them in this country.4months in prison is nothing,its prison conditions that need to change aswell not just sentences,im tired of all the special treatment.They should be given a cell with a bed and toilet and thats it.

[lily.]

Yeah, they have sky tv, multi-gym's, computer suites.. I mean, WTF? It's PRISON, not CAMP!

That poor girl will have to live with that for the rest of her life. At least her attacker won't get to hurt anyone else.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Freyja

Do you think they can be "cured"? I have read a lot of professional opinions on it and most seem to think they can't be.

Cannot be cured, but can be "manufactured" in a way that they can quash any dangerous thoughts (but the lust still exists).

[lily.]

What about castration Loz.. do you think that would work?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Freyja
What about castration Loz.. would that work?

There are drugs that decrease libido until it's almost non-existent, so I imagine that would stop any danger (as in, actual abuse rather than just lust).

I personally don't see this as enough, because although it will decrease the chances of them actually abusing a child, I still don't like the idea of them watching children - because again I feel this invades a childs privacy and innocence.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Freyja
Yeah, they have sky tv, multi-gym's, computer suites.. I mean, WTF? It's PRISON, not CAMP!

That poor girl will have to live with that for the rest of her life. At least her attacker won't get to hurt anyone else.
exactly and whos paying for it all!?:bored:

[Mrluvaluva]

It shouldn't have to get to "mob mentality" in my opinion. The laws should be there to protect the innocent and punish people like this. Maybe bringing back the death penalty might be a good idea for cases such as this rather than giving a 4 month sentence for raping a child. Maybe some of you may think this as a bit extreme but I do not believe in rehabilitation in cases such as this. Sadly the law is lacking in this case and has let down many people.

The people who killed him may have got rid of him so he cannot do this again, but I wonder how killing a person affects them mentally?

Although I am glad that the sick bastard is dead, the law should be dealing with this correctly and justly in the first place.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Freyja
Yeah, it has.. same or similar name, and bang, yer guna get a kicking.

Do you think they can be "cured"? I have read a lot of professional opinions on it and most seem to think they can't be.

Yeh its hard to interpret research because theres all different levels of offender but the consensus seems to be the highest risk offenders dont stop so they shouldnt be let back into the community imo

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Freyja

Do you think they can be "cured"? I have read a lot of professional opinions on it and most seem to think they can't be.

Cannot be cured, but can be "manufactured" in a way that they can quash any dangerous thoughts (but the lust still exists).

dint see that, yeh theres evidence that drugs can stop them reoffending which I can live with

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Freyja
Yeah, they have sky tv, multi-gym's, computer suites.. I mean, WTF? It's PRISON, not CAMP!

That poor girl will have to live with that for the rest of her life. At least her attacker won't get to hurt anyone else.

I think the research says 80% of Abusers were abused themselves as children. (though most victims of abuse just grow up ****ed up and abuse themselves)

[AngRemembered]

I honestly believe I'd have been a little more satisfied had this been a fatal beating for the judge who handed out a 4 month sentance to this man.

But not completely satisfied that someone has been killed by a mob, that can NEVER be right even if it is a monster who abuses children.

Why cant we just be allowed as a nation to hold a referendum on bringing back capital punishment for crimes the majority of Britain consider deserving of death, this would solve more than a few problems including prison over crowding.
Then stories like this need not play on anyones conscience as justice for all would have been seen to be done, cept of course bogus judges, in this case we would have been allowed to demand his sacking and charge for neglect of duty.

[pinkmichk]

well it shouldnt have got to the point of mob attack cos he should have been banged up for life but i am also of the thinking that its one less pervert on the streets

[NettoSuperstar!]

Nah Im not down with capital punishment. Keep them away from society or make damn sure they arent going to reoffend. Its not for us to decide who lives or dies and there is always the chance of someone being wrongly convicted.

[lily.]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Nah Im not down with capital punishment. Keep them away from society or make damn sure they arent going to reoffend. Its not for us to decide who lives or dies and there is always the chance of someone being wrongly convicted.

Spot on Netto. I agree. I'd rather money was spent on locking away dangerous people like him than spent on all their fancy rehabilitation nonsense. I believe there are certain offenders who ought never to be free. So, why spend money on rehabilitation. Just keep them in a cell.

[andyman]

Those that killed should face justice! PRISON.

[lily.]

Yup. Unfortunately the powers that be don't see it that way andy.

[bananarama]

What ever he may deserve or not to support mob rule is very dangerous and level of stupidity that beggars belief.......Sooner or later mob rule merchants will kill someone of mistaken idendity.......

Mob mentality is even sicker than the child molester mentality as it is based on selfish disregard to the laws of the land......Very dangerous bordering on insanity to condone it......

[Mark]

Originally posted by bananarama
What ever he may deserve or not to support mob rule is very dangerous and level of stupidity that beggars belief.......Sooner or later mob rule merchants will kill someone of mistaken idendity.......


There was a case a few years ago where a gang went to a paediatrician's house and killed him, because they thought he was a paedophile. They targetted him becuase he had a sign saying "paediatrician" outside his house, and they got confused. :rolleyes:

[Tom]

Castrate them and stick them in prison and let them suffer. I don't agree with it when people like this are killed- thats not suffering unless its slow and painful.

I sound really sadistic but I really think people like this should suffer. Death is the easy way out imo.

[Tom4784]

This is gonna sound harsh but it's one less disgusting evil ***** on the streets. What also sickens me about this is the lenient sentances. If he was put away for years and made to pay for his crimes then mobs wouldn't have to resort to this.

[Oake]

Originally posted by Freyja
...we know for a fact that this man raped a child,

How do we know?

He was goaled for unlawful sex with a 15 year old, and a four month sentence suggests this was consensual, likewise his removal from the sex offender register.

Most media reports have grossly distorted his offence.

[Billy]

Any morals I have about killing etc etc went out the window after reading that, and I can't help but think "good".

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by Oake
Originally posted by Freyja
...we know for a fact that this man raped a child,

How do we know?

He was goaled for unlawful sex with a 15 year old, and a four month sentence suggests this was consensual, likewise his removal from the sex offender register.

Most media reports have grossly distorted his offence.

We know because he had sex with a legally termed minor, the age is set at 16 for consensual sex, so this was unlawful and by definition rape, he could not have gained consent from someone that age.

The age has to be set somewhere or monstrous leeches like this pedophile would never face charges at all, in this country that limit is 16, the onus is on him to fefrain from sex till she is old enough.. its pretty simple thing to do and most civalised people manage it without to much problem.

But there will always be animals like this, if we take your attitude and rather than care for the innocent we merely make or try find excuses for the monsters who commit these vile acts.
There is NEVER a right time or place to have sex with a child of any gender or any age lower than the limit set by us..the law.

Him getting 4 months was a travesty of justice, his name being removed from the sex offenders list was another error which needs a public inquiry as to why that happened, but dont be fooled into thinking this was an innocent victim, only he attacked one of those and I suppose what goes around comes around.
I dont support vigilante mob killings, but I fully understand why people do, thats why I call for the death penalty, then we may just appease everyone including members of this group that took revenge.

[Oake]

The age of consent is 16 in the UK. In many countries it is different, some higher some lower. In some countries homosexual acts are illegal at any age.

My main point was that the gravity of his crime had been widely exaggerated in the media. I don't know why this happened, but it well illustrates the dangers of mob "justice". It also of course tends to excuse the monster(s) who committed this vile act.

[lily.]

If a person wants to have sex with someone under 16, then I suggest they go to the "other countries" you speak of.

In this country, it's against the law. Fact.

[Glenn.]

All im going to say is good.

[Oake]

Originally posted by Freyja
If a person wants to have sex with someone under 16, then I suggest they go to the "other countries" you speak of.


I trust you don't really mean that.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom
Castrate them and stick them in prison and let them suffer. I don't agree with it when people like this are killed- thats not suffering unless its slow and painful.

I sound really sadistic but I really think people like this should suffer. Death is the easy way out imo.

Ohhh Tom what would Jesus say??:nono:

[lily.]

Originally posted by Oake
Originally posted by Freyja
If a person wants to have sex with someone under 16, then I suggest they go to the "other countries" you speak of.


I trust you don't really mean that.

You seem to have been trying to justify him having sex with someone under 16 because the law is different in other countries.

[LargeAndInCharge]

why are the police even investigating it?

why bother?

it is a good thing his dead

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by LargeAndInCharge
why are the police even investigating it?

why bother?

it is a good thing his dead

We do things like that in a civilised country, you must have been away somewhere else, I'd love to know where though?

We bother to protect people from taking the law and judgements into individuals hands, this might be the fair way to treat a pedophile today, and tomorrow it may be the fair way to treat someone allegedly accused of something trivial like say lying, thats in everyones interest to bother then... right?

Its not a good thing he is dead in this manner, no one deserves to be violently stabbed to death in cold blood even proffesional killers like soldiers will tell you that, wont they?

[sweet09]

Originally posted by Spike
He deserved it, i'm glad he died


havin just read this me and my mates are going to celebrate another scum bags death tonight.if judges gave them the sentences that they deserved,like the first time they do anything like this tyhen they should NEVER be allowed out again,should be kept in a sex offenders prison in the middle of nowhere seeing as we dont have the death penalty,would rather pay tax to keep them in those places than let them mingle with our innocent childsren on OUR streets,us law abiding citizens!