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Spike
23-12-2008, 12:54 PM
Only 10 days until CBB6 kicks off so we need the ratings thread

Series Averages:

Celebrity Big Brother 1: 5.2m
Celebrity Big Brother 2: 4.4m
Celebrity Big Brother 3: 4.3m
Celebrity Big Brother 4: 4.9m
Celebrity Big Brother 5: 4.6m

The launch show has competition from Morecambe and Wise: the Show What Paul Merton Did and Midsomer Murders. So whatever the launch ratings are we can't blame them on strong competition for the same audience.
The series looks to run in the 9pm slot for all of its run
Any predictions for the launch show and series average?

Tom
23-12-2008, 01:01 PM
Launch- 5.6m
Average- 3.8m

BBkid
23-12-2008, 01:10 PM
Launch 4.7
Average 3.6

Spike
23-12-2008, 01:16 PM
Launch: 5.8
Average: 3.7

*mazedsalv**
23-12-2008, 01:38 PM
Launch- 4.4m
Average- 3.0m

Locke.
23-12-2008, 01:54 PM
Launch- 6.2
Average- 4.0

*mazedsalv**
26-12-2008, 10:21 PM
Bump!!! :) Its getting close....

Spike
26-12-2008, 10:22 PM
I think I may lower my prediction for the launch, the advertising is poor and there doesn't seem to be any excitement about the series by the press or public.

KKBL
26-12-2008, 10:23 PM
Launch - 6.4
Average - 4.2

\PJ/
26-12-2008, 10:25 PM
Launch-2.3 million.

KKBL
26-12-2008, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Spike
I think I may lower my prediction for the launch, the advertising is poor and there doesn't seem to be any excitement about the series by the press or public.

im starting to think C4 want CBB6 to flop so that there wont be a future for BB in the UK or at least not on C4.

Spike
26-12-2008, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by KKBL
Originally posted by Spike
I think I may lower my prediction for the launch, the advertising is poor and there doesn't seem to be any excitement about the series by the press or public.

Im starting to think C4 want CBB6 to flop so that there wont be a future for BB in the UK or at least not on C4.

Yeah me too.
But when I think that I just can't think of a reason why they would want to destroy the show which brings in 3million people including 1million 16-34's every nigh for 4months of the year. It must be making them a huge profit still but it does seem that they are slowly trying to kill it

Spike
02-01-2009, 11:23 AM
Why I Love Celebrity Big Brother got less than 0.8 million on C4 last night but it had been on E4 twice before.
CBB is on the front of a few newspapers and the rumoured line-up is quite good.
However advertising has been the worst its ever been for a Big Brother series
So ratings could go either way tonight

\PJ/
02-01-2009, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by PJ
Launch-2.3 million.
Im changing this to 4 million,because i have seen it around alot lately.

Loukas
02-01-2009, 11:50 AM
Launch: 8.5m
Average: 6.1m

Sam!
02-01-2009, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by DoubleTrouble
Launch: 8.5m
Average: 6.1m

8.5m :O:|

Captain.Remy
02-01-2009, 12:00 PM
It will be the least watched for sure ! No more than 5 million tonight with an average of 3.9, 4 million.

mister-eli
02-01-2009, 12:19 PM
Launch: 4.9 million
Average: 4.0 million

I.am.the.invisible.member
02-01-2009, 12:32 PM
ive not seen one advert on "TV" as of yet. so if ive not see one then how the public meant to know its on!

i did take into consideration that i haven't been watching allot of channel 4 and E4 lately but still thats because their has been no programmes to persuade me to turn over to them to catch a glimpse of a BB advert! so i can imagine its the same for the rest of the UK!

tonight most of the viewers will be the one's who don't know its on and quickly catch it flicking through the channels!

looking at the previous ratings only makes me worried for the series average and launch night figures! as each series following seems to rate worse! i didnt know they were so low for CBB..................
Series Averages:

Celebrity Big Brother 1: 5.2m
Celebrity Big Brother 2: 4.4m
Celebrity Big Brother 3: 4.3m
Celebrity Big Brother 4: 4.9m
Celebrity Big Brother 5: 4.6m

sorry guys i predict the same as CBB 2 or if were luck CBB 4??? dont get me wrong i would love it if my prediction is wrong, but even if it is then the series average will still be the lowest yet!

Lets hope there is no booing on the live launch as it so disrespectful to the celebs when they haven't even been given a chance! producers should tell the crowd not to "boo" on launch night and finally night! u cant boo the winner its ridiculous!

MarkWaldorf
02-01-2009, 12:34 PM
I'm going to predict:

Launch: 4.5m maybe with a 5 million peak.
Average: 4.2m

Brad*
02-01-2009, 12:37 PM
Launch 4.3
Average 3.8

Stu
02-01-2009, 03:56 PM
I think where in the past BB has launched strong and fallen sharply, the opposite could happen this time due to the good cast but poor advertising. Expect a poor launch rating but with ratings stabalising and perhaps even improving slightly as the show goes on.

Dom:D
02-01-2009, 04:07 PM
launch: 4.4 million
Average 3.7

*mazedsalv**
02-01-2009, 04:46 PM
Im doing mine again:

Launch- 4.6m
Average- 3.4m

Fat.Rat
02-01-2009, 04:47 PM
i really really hope it does well.

Spike
02-01-2009, 04:50 PM
My new prediction is
Launch: 5.4
Average: 3.8

jonsep
02-01-2009, 04:56 PM
launch-4.7
average-2.5

LaLaLand
02-01-2009, 05:16 PM
I don't understand all the decimal things but all I'm goign to say is I believe alot will tune in tonight, this CBB has been heavily discussed in alot of papers so it would have raised alot of attention with readers; last series was hardly advertised I don't think :puzzled:

Plus, there are alot of well-known celebs going in!

MarkWaldorf
02-01-2009, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Jonnii
I don't understand all the decimal things but all I'm goign to say is I believe alot will tune in tonight, this CBB has been heavily discussed in alot of papers so it would have raised alot of attention with readers; last series was hardly advertised I don't think :puzzled:

Plus, there are alot of well-known celebs going in!

Decimal is used just to shorten the guesses in millions. I could say 5.3 for 5,300,000. It's just a shorter way I guess.

Spike
03-01-2009, 12:16 PM
Launch ratings in
Average - 5.357 Million
Peak 6.4

My prediction was closest
C4 will be very happy

Spike
03-01-2009, 12:23 PM
22:15 - Celebrity Big Brother's Big Mouth - 793,000 (4.3%)


23:05 to 02:00 - Celebrity Big Brother Live - 345,000 (4.7%)
*Peak: 695,000 (5.6%) at 23:20



With those figures for the live feed I can't understand why they have reduced the amount on E4

KKBL
03-01-2009, 12:49 PM
what are people's predictions for tonight.if you look at CBB3 which also started on a Friday the launch got 4.6 and Saturday got 4.0..but BB9 got 3.2 on its first Saturday.realistically 3.6 would be a great rating for tonight.

Spike
03-01-2009, 12:51 PM
Saturdays are usually lower but it is the first highlights show with the HOH task with not much competition
so i'm thinking over 3million maybe 3.3

Locke.
03-01-2009, 12:53 PM
I'll go with 3.9 million for tonight.

*mazedsalv**
03-01-2009, 01:19 PM
Im syaing 3.1m because of it being a Saturday. Is there a task today?

Spike
03-01-2009, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Im syaing 3.1m because of it being a Saturday. Is there a task today?

HOH was given out last night, I think, so that will be show on tonights show which could help ratings

*mazedsalv**
03-01-2009, 10:14 PM
Predictions??

Joelston
03-01-2009, 10:27 PM
it was up against casualty, so im not sure they will be too great

Spike
03-01-2009, 10:32 PM
Casualty doesn't do that well and it doesn't appeal to the same demographic as Big Brother, so thats not really competition

*mazedsalv**
04-01-2009, 09:54 AM
It got 3.1m.... im not sure a saturday has done this well in quite a long time.

Spike
04-01-2009, 10:38 AM
Looking at the other ratings last night it did really well
I was hoping for a little more but ratings were down all round last night

KKBL
04-01-2009, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
It got 3.1m.... Im not sure a saturday has done this well in quite a long time.

i guess 3.1 is good..but its definetly not amazing.BB9 got at least 2 higher Saturdays.

Spike
04-01-2009, 11:23 AM
But for BB9 there is less competition on a Saturday

*mazedsalv**
04-01-2009, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by KKBL
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
It got 3.1m.... Im not sure a saturday has done this well in quite a long time.

i guess 3.1 is good..but its definetly not amazing.BB9 got at least 2 higher Saturdays.

I think on inside BB it says that its higher than all of the saturday overnight ratings in BB9.

*mazedsalv**
04-01-2009, 11:59 AM
From Inside BB:

Last night’s show was the most watched Saturday episode of Big Brother since week 5 of BB7. It was Channel 4’s most watched show yesteday, peaking between 9.45pm-10pm with over 3m.

KKBL
04-01-2009, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Originally posted by KKBL
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
It got 3.1m.... Im not sure a saturday has done this well in quite a long time.

i guess 3.1 is good..but its definetly not amazing.BB9 got at least 2 higher Saturdays.

I think on inside BB it says that its higher than all of the saturday overnight ratings in BB9.

oh yeah sorry i was looking at the IBB BB9 ratings table but their not overnights their officilas,so i guess 3.1 is actually good:dance2:

*mazedsalv**
04-01-2009, 12:55 PM
Prediction for tonight is 3.4m.

Any predictions from you guys?? :spin:

Locke.
04-01-2009, 12:57 PM
Prediction- 3.6 million tonight

Spike
05-01-2009, 11:13 AM
3.2miilion last night
Bit down on what I was expecting, dissapointing figures

*mazedsalv**
05-01-2009, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Spike
3.2miilion last night
Bit down on what I was expecting, dissapointing figures

It was 3.3m btw. Its 200,000 up on first sunday of BB9 and up on the first sunday of CBB5 btw, so its doing good.

Monday's are normally bad, so 2.9m for tonight. Like always Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays will be stronger.

MrGaryy
05-01-2009, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Originally posted by Spike
3.2miilion last night
Bit down on what I was expecting, dissapointing figures

It was 3.3m btw. Its 200,000 up on first sunday of BB9 and up on the first sunday of CBB5 btw, so its doing good.

Monday's are normally bad, so 2.9m for tonight. Like always Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays will be stronger.

You really should stop comparing it to BB9 as there's no comparison, they're different shows which would pull different viewers.

*mazedsalv**
05-01-2009, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Originally posted by Spike
3.2miilion last night
Bit down on what I was expecting, dissapointing figures

It was 3.3m btw. Its 200,000 up on first sunday of BB9 and up on the first sunday of CBB5 btw, so its doing good.

Monday's are normally bad, so 2.9m for tonight. Like always Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays will be stronger.

You really should stop comparing it to BB9 as there's no comparison, they're different shows which would pull different viewers.

Well it got higher than the first Sunday of CBB5 too.

The launch ratings are up on the Channel 4 site, the launch got 5.7m not 5.5m.

So far:
Friday(Launch)- 5.7m
Saturday- 3.1m
Sunday- 3.3m

Spike
05-01-2009, 03:15 PM
Yeah I don't think we can compare to BB9
I would be expecting under 3million tonight but I think C4 will have a good night especially with the highly promoted documentary afterwards
but the first time we will be really able to judge the series ratings will be for Tuesdays show.

*mazedsalv**
05-01-2009, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Yeah I don't think we can compare to BB9
I would be expecting under 3million tonight but I think C4 will have a good night especially with the highly promoted documentary afterwards
but the first time we will be really able to judge the series ratings will be for Tuesdays show.

I agree, hopefully CBB6 does what the previous BB's have done. On Saturdays generally ratings would go below 3m, and increases slightly on sunday and monday and then there has always been a boost on Tuesdays. I think the show generally builds 300,000 more viewers than the sunday episodes, so really thinking about it on Tuesday it could get 3.6m or more. Also there are 2 live shows on Tuesday which we dont know what will happen, but it could boost.

*mazedsalv**
05-01-2009, 03:21 PM
Viewers of the first Sunday.

CBB1 (2001) - 4.4m (official)
CBB2 (2002) - 4.2m (17%)
CBB3 (2005) - 3.5m (13%)
CBB4 (2006) - 3.4m (13%)
CBB5 (2007) - 3.2m (12%)
CBB6 (2009) - 3.3m (13%)

Matt
05-01-2009, 03:26 PM
New figures released by Channel 4 today show that the Celebrity Big Brother launch was seen by more viewers than it was initially reported.

5.66million tuned in, according to Channel4Sales (http://www.channel4sales.com/data/overnights/Adults+16-34/02/January/2009).

KKBL
06-01-2009, 10:39 AM
last night got 3.7!:dance:

Spike
06-01-2009, 10:54 AM
That impressive for a Monday
I'm thinking maybe 4million tonight

Stu
06-01-2009, 10:56 AM
Last night was very good. Tonight should get even more but whenever their is a special Big Brother Channel 4 never bother to advertise it! We just have to find out through word of mouth and tuning in that it is a live show.

I think the first show could get over 4 million tonight but the second show will probably get under 3.5 due to its late start time.

*mazedsalv**
06-01-2009, 02:56 PM
3.7m for a Monday is fantastic. Its usually a low rated day. Im glad it did well.

Edit- Channel 4 site is saying 3.75m which is 3.8m.

Spike
06-01-2009, 03:14 PM
Last nights show as third in the 16-34's of the night, having a 34% share of 16-34's. very impressive
I can see the first show getting 4million tonight, but the second show wont do that badly. The second show during BB9 which was at 11pm got over 3million if I remember correctly.

Spike
07-01-2009, 12:08 PM
3.3million last night, very dissapointing. I was expecting bigger ratings after Monday

*mazedsalv**
07-01-2009, 02:50 PM
3.6m 1st show
1.5m 2nd!! HORRIFIC ratings

arista
07-01-2009, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
3.6m 1st show
1.5m 2nd!! HORRIFIC ratings



No that is normal
and the Rubbish 2nd show
was at a Graveyard shift time.


We are in a Multi Channel time
getting over a million is good.




Look at new richard and judy show ukwatch tv
less than 12,000 at times.
Nutters doing a 8pm slot.

*mazedsalv**
07-01-2009, 03:33 PM
I know, its stupid C4s fault. They were a bit dumb for putting the 2nd show at 11:05pm, they only did this to have Dead Set in the middle so it could get good ratings, but they should of put Dead Set on tonight after BB at 10.

Last night shoould have been like this:
9pm-10pm- 1st show
10pm-10:30pm A programme (dont know which one)
10:30-11:05pm 2nd show

Spike
07-01-2009, 04:10 PM
Not so bad for the first show then but I was expecting more for the second show after the success of it in BB9

Spike
07-01-2009, 04:25 PM
Found this on DS

Monday 19th January

8.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Live Eviction (against EastEnders and Coronation St)
9.00 Big Chef Takes on Little Chef
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Eviction
10.50 FILM: Austin Powers in Goldmember


Tuesday 20th January

9.00 Big Chef Takes on Little Chef
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother


Wednesday 21st January

8.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Live Eviction
9.00 Big Chef Takes on Little Chef
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Eviction
10.50 Dave Gorman in America Unchained


Thursday its back at 9pm


Friday 23rd January

8.30 Celebrity Big Brother: The Live Final (against Coronation St)
9.30 Plus One
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother: The Live Final (against Jonathan Ross's return to BBC1)

What are C4 playing at with this stupid scheduling, they really must be trying to kill the show! The simpler option would have been to start the food season the week after

*mazedsalv**
07-01-2009, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Not so bad for the first show then but I was expecting more for the second show after the success of it in BB9

When did they do a 11:05-11:40pm show in BB9?

*mazedsalv**
07-01-2009, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Found this on DS

Monday 19th January

8.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Live Eviction (against EastEnders and Coronation St)
9.00 Big Chef Takes on Little Chef
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Eviction
10.50 FILM: Austin Powers in Goldmember


Tuesday 20th January

9.00 Big Chef Takes on Little Chef
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother


Wednesday 21st January

8.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Live Eviction
9.00 Big Chef Takes on Little Chef
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Eviction
10.50 Dave Gorman in America Unchained


Thursday its back at 9pm


Friday 23rd January

8.30 Celebrity Big Brother: The Live Final (against Coronation St)
9.30 Plus One
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother: The Live Final (against Jonathan Ross's return to BBC1)

What are C4 playing at with this stupid scheduling, they really must be trying to kill the show! The simpler option would have been to start the food season the week after

Oh dear!! Why put an eviction show at 8pm up aggainst the soaps. C4 is just trying to make themselves look tough by agreeing to be put aggainst tough competeition, but all this is going to do is to deliver bad BB ratings.

Sam!
07-01-2009, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Found this on DS

Monday 19th January

8.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Live Eviction (against EastEnders and Coronation St)
9.00 Big Chef Takes on Little Chef
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Eviction
10.50 FILM: Austin Powers in Goldmember


Tuesday 20th January

9.00 Big Chef Takes on Little Chef
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother


Wednesday 21st January

8.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Live Eviction
9.00 Big Chef Takes on Little Chef
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother: Eviction
10.50 Dave Gorman in America Unchained


Thursday its back at 9pm


Friday 23rd January

8.30 Celebrity Big Brother: The Live Final (against Coronation St)
9.30 Plus One
10.00 Celebrity Big Brother: The Live Final (against Jonathan Ross's return to BBC1)

What are C4 playing at with this stupid scheduling, they really must be trying to kill the show! The simpler option would have been to start the food season the week after

Two evictions in the final week ey!

Spike
07-01-2009, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Originally posted by Spike
Not so bad for the first show then but I was expecting more for the second show after the success of it in BB9

When did they do a 11:05-11:40pm show in BB9?

When Lisa and Sara split the money, it got 3.2million I think

*mazedsalv**
08-01-2009, 03:05 PM
3.3m for last night.
Pretty average ratings, not sure if Waterloo Road was the one to affect it, WR got 4.7m but doesnt it have the same target audience as BB??

Loads of my friends that watch BB too watched Waterloo Road, Ive never watched it before. I cant start watching now as i wont get it lol

*mazedsalv**
08-01-2009, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Originally posted by Spike
Not so bad for the first show then but I was expecting more for the second show after the success of it in BB9

When did they do a 11:05-11:40pm show in BB9?

When Lisa and Sara split the money, it got 3.2million I think

The officials however was 4.1m... so the rating for the 2nd show on Tuesdays could go up by a lot in the officials.

Spike
08-01-2009, 04:11 PM
Nothing outstanding last night, I do think the series will now rate lower then BB9 unless we have some more very cold weather on some controversy.

Red Moon
08-01-2009, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
3.3m for last night.
Pretty average ratings, not sure if Waterloo Road was the one to affect it, WR got 4.7m but doesnt it have the same target audience as BB??

Loads of my friends that watch BB too watched Waterloo Road, Ive never watched it before. I cant start watching now as i wont get it lol

What is that in terms of percentage of the people watching during that time period?

Like I said in another thread the that actual viewing numbers aren't so important these days, it is the percentage of the viewing public that the show receives that CHannel 4 will be looking at.

Also it's impossible to compare one year to another year one on just viewing numbers, just because less people are watching TV in general now than they were a few years ago.

Spike
08-01-2009, 04:23 PM
^
The share last night was 12.4%
A little low to what the other nightly shows have been getting I think

*mazedsalv**
08-01-2009, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Spike
^
The share last night was 12.4%
A little low to what the other nightly shows have been getting I think

Yeah that share is pretty low. Also that would mean that the 1.5m that the 2nd show wont be seen as bad by C4 because it had like 16%-17% share.

Spike
09-01-2009, 11:02 AM
3.1million last night. 11.4% for the C4 showing
Thats not good enough

Locke.
09-01-2009, 12:36 PM
I predict 3.5 million for tonights eviction, it hasn't really been advertised much and Lucy and Ulrika don't seem to have big fanbases that will all want to tune in.

Brekkie
09-01-2009, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Spike
3.1million last night. 11.4% for the C4 showing
Thats not good enough
2.8m without C4+1 - that is shocking.

How envious I am at the moment of BB Germany, who having had record low figures for their first month of BB9 are basically starting again with a complete relaunch on Monday - same housemates, but new rules and changes to the house. The head of the channel has also been sacked, with the ratings for BB being the final nail in their coffin.

Here, C4 just shrug their shoulders and say "well, it's never going to get as many as it used too!" and happily let their biggest programme die a slow painful death.
It's not going to get any better next week because in their infinite wisdom they've decided the next eviction won't be until next Friday, meaning very little reason to watch the show over the weekend.

*mazedsalv**
09-01-2009, 02:58 PM
Im really pissed off with the ratings!! After such a great start, it just went down ever since the nomination twist on Tuesday.
I predict, 3.5m in the 1st show and 2.9m for the 2nd show.

But i dont really care about the ratings anymore, Im really enjoying the series, so thats all that can make me happy.

Spike
09-01-2009, 03:14 PM
I'm surprised rating aren't at BB9 standards yet because it is a good series. BB UK should be looking at what BB Germany is doing, but I get the feeling C4 don't care about Big Brother anymore and will let themselves be out bid for it when the rights are for sale.

Billy
09-01-2009, 03:14 PM
Wow, it's like the end of an era, it feels like BBUK is almost over :/

*mazedsalv**
09-01-2009, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Spike
I'm surprised rating aren't at BB9 standards yet because it is a good series. BB UK should be looking at what BB Germany is doing, but I get the feeling C4 don't care about Big Brother anymore and will let themselves be out bid for it when the rights are for sale.

Yeahh i really hope there are new people on the team brought in and think stuff up in BB10, sack most of the people on the team, and stop C4 putting shows on at ridiculous times and aggainst stupid competition (next week the evictions are aggainst CS and EE!) and also DOI starts on Sunday and thats going to be on too.

Soo, we need goos slots and a bloody live feed!!!

Spike
09-01-2009, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Billy
Wow, it's like the end of an era, it feels like BBUK is almost over :/

I get that feeling too. BB10 ratings will drop maybe into the 2millions some night then the show will be dead

KKBL
09-01-2009, 03:30 PM
we all know the ratings are ****...but what are C4 doing about it?nothing.ratings are down everywhere.but if C4 actually tried it could be getting 4.4m for evictions and 4m for Tuesday,Wendsday & Thursday

*mazedsalv**
09-01-2009, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Billy
Wow, it's like the end of an era, it feels like BBUK is almost over :/

I get that feeling too. BB10 ratings will drop maybe into the 2millions some night then the show will be dead

Dont worry, I think that loads of people should (after CBB) send lots of thing to C4 saying:
1. How they have to afvertise more for the series
2. That you should never ever end a show 5-10 minutes early eg. on eviction nights
3. To get the Live Feed Back
4. Get new people on the team and create unusual tasks that have never been done before.

and so on.....
Hopefully if enough of us do that before BB10 start, hopefully they will get their head together.

Spike
09-01-2009, 03:35 PM
The thing which annoys me is C4 aren't even trying
The advertising is piss poor. The scheduling is laughable putting evictions against the soaps and the finale also against the soaps and Jonathan Ross' return. They insist on having 13 weeks in the summer when 10 is more than enough. Endemol isn't even trying to do anything with the format, its getting boring now.
CBB6 was the last chance to get viewers back, looks like they have been lost forever now
I feel the only way to gain viewers is to make the show completely different, maybe the US format would work here

Tom
10-01-2009, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by Spike
The thing which annoys me is C4 aren't even trying
The advertising is p**s poor. The scheduling is laughable putting evictions against the soaps and the finale also against the soaps and Jonathan Ross' return. They insist on having 13 weeks in the summer when 10 is more than enough. Endemol isn't even trying to do anything with the format, its getting boring now.
CBB6 was the last chance to get viewers back, looks like they have been lost forever now
I feel the only way to gain viewers is to make the show completely different, maybe the US format would work here

You can't blame Channel 4 for where other channels put their programmes. They could move Big Brother but they also have other things to show- they can't just stop showing other programmes. Don't forget there is also Channel 4+1 where on the Monday in question where Big Brother will go out at 9pm- the usual time. A lot of people will probably remember that and the show will get more than usual on C4+1 who will then turn over to C4 at 10pm to see the eviction. With regards to Jonathan Ross, I doubt the audience is that similar.

The reason for 13 weeks in the summer is because they can't be bothered to fill the slot with anything else. Personally, I'd be happy with them scaling the series back to 11 weeks, but for profits the other 2 weeks would have to go somewhere, so why not make a 5 week long celebrity series? It could definitely make for a more organised series rather than the rushed job we're going to get in the final week.

CBB6 was probably their last realistic chance to win back viewers, and its kind of worked. It has so far had some of the highest rated shows in the shows recent history (as well as the worst) and I think it will beat the BB9 average, it will get about 3.7m or 3.8m with officials which is what I originally predicted. People are also talking about the show again, and the media are interested.

They don't have to overhaul the format in the summer, they just need to buck their ideas up. I think they should go for a Sunday launch and have a week long twist ending on the Friday to keep the viewers hooked for the first week, and it avoids the first week eviction too. The format undoubtedly needs tweaking but I don't think it needs an overhaul. But the biggest change has to be the advertising campaign. They can't rely on the same system that started in BB4. They need something different that makes people want to watch, not want them to think they might watch it if there is nothing else on.

Billy
10-01-2009, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Billy
Wow, it's like the end of an era, it feels like BBUK is almost over :/

I get that feeling too. BB10 ratings will drop maybe into the 2millions some night then the show will be dead

Dont worry, I think that loads of people should (after CBB) send lots of thing to C4 saying:
1. How they have to afvertise more for the series
2. That you should never ever end a show 5-10 minutes early eg. on eviction nights
3. To get the Live Feed Back
4. Get new people on the team and create unusual tasks that have never been done before.

and so on.....
Hopefully if enough of us do that before BB10 start, hopefully they will get their head together.

All four of your points are crap tbh :\ The live feed has nothing to do with it, BB8 and BB9 were unsucessfull and they had the live feed.
BB9 was a great series, but it didn't get the ratings so I dont think tis got anything to do with the show anymore, people are growing out of it, and people watched BB8 which was crap, so didn't bother with BB9.
I think the audience has been lost forever.

Tom
10-01-2009, 04:07 PM
The audience was lost during CBB5 before the race row, BB8 and BBCH were just poor and drove even more away, and BB9 was just unfortunate to fall where it did. The earlier series' (all apart from 2) averaged between 4.4m and 4.7m, and now they seem to be hovering around the 3.5m which is good for the channel, not so good for the brand. If they can sustain that for a few years then they should be fine, they just can't afford a huge drop again.

Spike
11-01-2009, 04:55 PM
Friday (21:00)- 3.8m
Friday (22:30)- 2.3m
Saturday- 2.1m

Dissapoitning, BB is dead
The final will struggle to make 5million at this rate

Spike
12-01-2009, 10:59 AM
2.6million last night with a 8.7% share
That share is awful!

Captain.Remy
12-01-2009, 11:21 AM
OK so that pretty much confirms BB is struggling more than we thought. I hope the producers will react but I doubt they will. I'm sure they'll find another stupid excuse not to change anything for BB10.

Spike
13-01-2009, 10:35 AM
2.6million for Monday, that is awful

Brekkie
13-01-2009, 11:47 AM
And just 2.2m watching on C4 itself. Never mind hitting the 4m barrier or even the 3m barrier, I'm now concerned it'll break the 2m barrier - next Monday the show is on at 8pm against Corrie and EastEnders - so expect ratings to fall even lower.

\PJ/
13-01-2009, 01:05 PM
I think we all should start buying an outfit for BB's funeral soon.

*mazedsalv**
13-01-2009, 03:07 PM
Just awful!
The only way forward is to sack the producers and being new ones in... or just move it to a different channel... advertise!!

I heard a rumour that in BB10, the producers of BB Spain will be working along side the UK producers... i really hope so, because i know that Spain has a fantastic reputation on BB, just the same with BB Italy (Ive never watched Spain though).

Change the launch into a more Big Brother Italy/Spain way.

MarkWaldorf
13-01-2009, 03:25 PM
lmfao @ the ratings!!!!

*mazedsalv**
13-01-2009, 03:52 PM
Dreadful isnt it?? Its time for them to actually do something!!! Change or stay the same and make BB die on its last remaining arse cheek.

Spike
13-01-2009, 04:47 PM
There are two options to take in the next few months to get ratings up
1) Prepare for another seires of the same format with and hope for viewers to stay for the show
2) Re-do the whole show, make the format completely different something like BBUS and lose but also gain viewers.

Its time to act and if nothing is done well its the end of BB by September

Brekkie
13-01-2009, 05:01 PM
Well, next September - BB11 is under contract too. I'm in no doubt though this is the last Celebrity Big Brother.

We've laid most of the blame at C4 for seemingly wanting to just get rid, but Endemol aren't exactly fighting their corner either - they've made exactly the same mistake with CBB this time as they did last time. They've forgotten their own format!

Big Brother isn't a couple of rounds of nominations then 41 people in the final - it needs to be regular noms throughout (at least twice weekly) so they go through the process. I was delighted they kicked off with the HoH, but now they've abandoned it! Similarly the house is set up for Heaven and Hell and really needed something this weekend - but they've wimped out!


This whole series seems to be based around the idea all we want is celebs in silly costumes - how far from the truth can you get!

Spike
14-01-2009, 12:17 PM
3.2million last night, at least its back over 3million

*mazedsalv**
14-01-2009, 03:48 PM
Better. It got 3.25m...almost 3.3m

The officials are in.... (overnight +1)

Launch- 6.1m (5.7m)
Saturday- 3.4m (3.1m)
Sunday- 3.6m (3.3m)

The officials are good.

Locke.
14-01-2009, 04:26 PM
It needs to stick in the 3 millions now for the rest of the series

Spike
14-01-2009, 05:24 PM
The officals are okay, nothing to shout about though.

Spike
15-01-2009, 04:33 PM
3.2million for Wednesday

*mazedsalv**
15-01-2009, 07:18 PM
Think about it like this.... officials normally add 300,000, so in the last 2 days which have got 3.2m will go up to around 3.5m each in the officials. Im thinking that last Mondays show will go over 4m as it got a overnight of 3.7m, and i want to see what Fridays First show gets (got 3.8m overnights) so that should get around 4m-4.2m.

Spike
15-01-2009, 07:29 PM
The officials are still not good enough though

*mazedsalv**
16-01-2009, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by Spike
The officials are still not good enough though

Its on par with BB9 right now, it could go passed BB9s average when the officials come out.... they are not that bad.

Spike
16-01-2009, 04:01 PM
2.8 million last night
Ratings might be up tonight after Ofcom have got involved and the press attention

Spike
18-01-2009, 05:37 PM
Friday 1 - 3.3m (13.8%)
Friday 2 - 2.11m(14.3%)

Shocking ratings for a Friday, this series is a failure
I can't see the finale getting 5million

*mazedsalv**
18-01-2009, 05:41 PM
It is dreadful I agree!

MarkWaldorf
18-01-2009, 05:41 PM
You can only laugh at how **** everything is :joker:

Spike
18-01-2009, 06:54 PM
2.05m ( 9.1%) for Saturday
10th most watched primetime show

Spike
19-01-2009, 02:54 PM
2.5million for Sunday

The ratings for tonight will be interesting, will the first show even break the 2million barrier?

*mazedsalv**
19-01-2009, 03:04 PM
It was 2.6m for last night. Not dreadful as it was aggainst Wild At Heart which got over 7m and DOI Results

Spike
19-01-2009, 04:03 PM
Yeah but Wild at Heart doesn't attract the same demographic and DOI result ratings weren't that high so theres no excuse really
This series is a failure in the ratings and tonights ratings will show that.

*mazedsalv**
19-01-2009, 04:05 PM
I agree with that. But think about it.... if BB10 drops even more than CBB6...(which it shouldnt do if things change) i think it will mean a complete end to BB.

Locke.
19-01-2009, 04:06 PM
Tonight it is against Eastenders, Corrie and Liverpool vs Everton.

I predict 1.5 million.

Spike
19-01-2009, 04:08 PM
If BB10 falls any further then it is the end of BB.
The only way forward is to completely change for BB10 to insure that viewers are kept and hopefully increase a litlte
I'm just hoping there is change and not the same boring 13 week old format with fame hungry wannabes along with eye flashes and house adverts.

*mazedsalv**
19-01-2009, 09:19 PM
I have a feeling that todays shows will get the lowest ratings for an eviction ever... just got a very strong feeling about that.

Spike
20-01-2009, 09:49 AM
Monday 1 - 2.2million
Monday 2 - 3.0million

*mazedsalv**
20-01-2009, 03:33 PM
Nope thats wrong...

It was:

Monday 1- 2.2m
Monday 2- 3.4m

Spike
20-01-2009, 04:36 PM
I didn't add the +1 ratings onto the second show
Still very poor though
I think C4 should think about changing the eviction day, I know they can only do Fridays at the current location but I could see evictions working much better on a Sunday in the summer

Brekkie
21-01-2009, 10:39 AM
Ouch.

9pm - Big Chef Takes on Little Chef - 4.09m
10pm - Big Brother - 2.64m.

Tom
21-01-2009, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Brekkie
Ouch.

9pm - Big Chef Takes on Little Chef - 4.09m
10pm - Big Brother - 2.64m.

LOL. Its not as though BB was even the second most watched show, it was even beatem by Supersize v Superskinny! (2.8m)

Spike
21-01-2009, 12:22 PM
I want the ratings to fall to new lows in the last few days to make the point the show needs change

Brekkie
21-01-2009, 02:34 PM
Mmmm.... they fell to new lows in both BB8 and BB9 and they didn't realise the show needed to change. What makes you think a new "new low" will make any difference?

Red Moon
21-01-2009, 02:52 PM
It's been clear that the 10pm slot isn't good for the show for a long time.

Has anyone compared the figures for the previous CBB's during at the same point in the show?

Tom
21-01-2009, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Brekkie
Mmmm.... they fell to new lows in both BB8 and BB9 and they didn't realise the show needed to change. What makes you think a new "new low" will make any difference?

Both series' were still comfortably Channel 4's consistently most watched show and both still won its slot on quite a few occasions. Thats not the case now though!

Brekkie
21-01-2009, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Red Moon
It's been clear that the 10pm slot isn't good for the show for a long time.

Has anyone compared the figures for the previous CBB's during at the same point in the show?

Celeb BB has always faired better in the 9pm slot (though in previous years it always did air at 9pm, so can't really be compared), but traditionally the main series did better at 10pm.

Inside BB is the best for comparing ratings:

Previous series: http://www.insidebigbrother.net/ratings/cbb.ibb
CBB6: http://www.insidebigbrother.net/ratings.ibb


Taking shows on the last Tuesday of each series we have:

CBB3: 3.5m (unusually low for the series - most nights it's 4.5m)
CBB4: 5.7m
CBB5: 4.3m

For completeness CBB1 had 6.1m for it's last (and first) Tuesday of the series, CBB2 had 4.8m (eviction show).


The current average is just 3.0m compared to well over 4m for previous series, and 3.6m for BB9:

* Series 1 (2001) - 5.2m
* Series 2 (2002) - 4.4m
* Series 3 (2005) - 4.3m
* Series 4 (2006) - 4.9m
* Series 5 (2007) - 4.6m

*mazedsalv**
21-01-2009, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by Brekkie
Originally posted by Red Moon
It's been clear that the 10pm slot isn't good for the show for a long time.

Has anyone compared the figures for the previous CBB's during at the same point in the show?

Celeb BB has always faired better in the 9pm slot (though in previous years it always did air at 9pm, so can't really be compared), but traditionally the main series did better at 10pm.

Inside BB is the best for comparing ratings:

Previous series: http://www.insidebigbrother.net/ratings/cbb.ibb
CBB6: http://www.insidebigbrother.net/ratings.ibb


Taking shows on the last Tuesday of each series we have:

CBB3: 3.5m (unusually low for the series - most nights it's 4.5m)
CBB4: 5.7m
CBB5: 4.3m

For completeness CBB1 had 6.1m for it's last (and first) Tuesday of the series, CBB2 had 4.8m (eviction show).


The current average is just 3.0m compared to well over 4m for previous series, and 3.6m for BB9:

* Series 1 (2001) - 5.2m
* Series 2 (2002) - 4.4m
* Series 3 (2005) - 4.3m
* Series 4 (2006) - 4.9m
* Series 5 (2007) - 4.6m

So far this series official average is 3.6m.

Spike
21-01-2009, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Brekkie
Mmmm.... they fell to new lows in both BB8 and BB9 and they didn't realise the show needed to change. What makes you think a new "new low" will make any difference?

because it will be at the point where its rating similar to a lot of the other successful C4 shows. Even though its hit lows in the past its still been great for C4 and beating most other C4 shows

Locke.
22-01-2009, 01:40 PM
Shouldn't do too bad tonight, only real competition is Hustle.

BBC1- Hustle
BBC2- Victorian Farm
ITV1- Total Emergency
C4- Celebrity Big Brother
C5- Wyatt Earp

*mazedsalv**
22-01-2009, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by David
Shouldn't do too bad tonight, only real competition is Hustle.

BBC1- Hustle
BBC2- Victorian Farm
ITV1- Total Emergency
C4- Celebrity Big Brother
C5- Wyatt Earp

I still dont think it will hit 3m.

Brekkie
23-01-2009, 11:21 AM
2.95m last night - Dispatches before it manage 3.4m, and twice as many 16-34 yr olds.

emoqueen
23-01-2009, 02:14 PM
Ouch that is damning..

Lets hope they walk away from this show.

1.better tasks
2.Better hm's

and most important 24hr live feed back so people can geto
know the hm's proper.:mad:

Spike
23-01-2009, 03:35 PM
Awful ratings yet again, I would be shocked if the finale got over a 4.5million average. I never thought I would say that

Spike
24-01-2009, 09:51 AM
Ratings for the finale:
3.1 and 3.5

Just awful. Change is needed