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Gay groups angry at Pope remarks
Pope Benedict made his remarks in an end-of-year speech
Gay groups and activists have reacted angrily after Pope Benedict XVI said that mankind needed to be saved from a destructive blurring of gender.
Speaking on Monday, Pope Benedict said that saving humanity from homosexual or transsexual behaviour was as important as protecting the environment.
The comments were "irresponsible and unacceptable", the UK's Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement (LGCM) said.
Vladimir Luxuria, a transgender former Italian MP, called his words "hurtful".
The row erupted as news emerged that the pontiff is to pay his first visit to the Holy Land in May next year.
'Self-destruction'
Pope Benedict made the comments in an end-of-year speech to senior Vatican staff.
Defending God's creation was not limited to saving the environment, he said, but also about protecting man from himself.
Rainforests deserve, yes, our protection, but the human being ... does not deserve it less
Pope Benedict
Papal address: Key extracts
What Bible says about being gay
It was not "out-of-date metaphysics" to "speak of human nature as 'man' or woman'", he said. It came from the "language of creation, despising which would mean self-destruction for humans".
Gender theories, he said, led to man's "auto-emancipation" from creation and Creator.
"Rain forests deserve, yes, our protection but the human being... does not deserve it less," he said.
LGCM head Rev Sharon Ferguson said the Pope's remarks justified "gay bashing" and bullying.
Mark Dowd, strategist for Christian environmental group Operation Noah, said the comments betrayed "a lack of openness to the complexity of creation".
Derek Munn of the UK based gay rights group Stonewall criticises Pope Benedict XVI's comments
And Ms Luxuria, who recently lost her seat in the Italian parliament, said suggesting people like her were destructive was very hurtful.
"I'm someone who was born as male and has a spiritual and female soul, and it's contradictory that a Pope just thinks of people just made as flesh and not made of a spiritual aspect."
The Catholic Church opposes gay marriage. It teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.
Earlier this month, the Vatican said that a proposed United Nations resolution decriminalising homosexuality went too far.
"Unjust discrimination" against gay people should be avoided, but the use of wording such as "sexual orientation" and "gender identity" in the text would "create serious uncertainty in the law", it said.
apparently his words were twisted completely..but if this is what he said :bored:
Magic
23-12-2008, 11:48 PM
One word - Twat.
It teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.
That's stupid because if someone is homosexual, surely they want to do homosexual acts with another homosexual.
I don't get it, lol.
LMFAO, Catholics make me laugh when they talk about homosexuality. Get a grip please.
30stone
23-12-2008, 11:51 PM
LOL thats funny to read...
This just makes me laugh. :laugh2:
Originally posted by Ross
It teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.
That's stupid because if someone is homosexual, surely they want to do homosexual acts with another homosexual.
I don't get it, lol.
It's ok Ross you haven't sinned yet :tongue:
Religious people are total hypocrits.
UPDATED: I obviously meant the type who criticize others for the way they live their life.
Originally posted by TheMichaelO
Religious people are total hypocrits.
LMFAO.
You can't just generalize like that LOL
Tom4784
23-12-2008, 11:58 PM
'and on the sixth day, God created the rifle to hunt dinosuars...and homosexuals!'
It's a ridiculous story and that priest is an arseface.
MarkWaldorf
23-12-2008, 11:59 PM
I can't believe he compared homosexuality to 'the destruction of the rain forests'.
Originally posted by Markus
I can't believe he compared homosexuality to 'the destruction of the rain forests'.
lmfao.
They'll be comparing it to terrorism next. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by HUGO
Originally posted by Ross
It teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.
That's stupid because if someone is homosexual, surely they want to do homosexual acts with another homosexual.
I don't get it, lol.
It's ok Ross you haven't sinned yet :tongue:
What do you mean?
If you mean I haven't done an homosexual act - sadly, you're mistaken :hugesmile:
30stone
24-12-2008, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by Markus
I can't believe he compared homosexuality to 'the destruction of the rain forests'.
But if everyone was homosexual, there would be no mankind after years..
Is that what he meant?
MrGaryy
24-12-2008, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by TheMichaelO
Religious people are total hypocrits.
What a ludicrous comment to make.
On topic, this reminds me why I no longer practise my faith.
Originally posted by HUGO
Originally posted by TheMichaelO
Religious people are total hypocrits.
LMFAO.
You can't just generalize like that LOL lmao. I mean the kinds who criticize others for the way they live their life.
Spike
24-12-2008, 12:04 AM
I don't really care for protecting the environment anyway..
Do the majority of people actually care what he says?
I will take great pleasure on the day he dies knowing that he knows he has wasted his life on religion which is all lies.
Saving humanity from religion is more important in my opinion
Originally posted by Fom
LMFAO, Catholics make me laugh when they talk about homosexuality. Get a grip please.
Not all Catholics...
Originally posted by Spike
I don't really care for protecting the environment anyway..
Do the majority of people actually care what he says?
I will take great pleasure on the day he dies knowing that he knows he has wasted his life on religion which is all lies.
Saving humanity from religion is more important in my opinion
Originally posted by Spike
I don't really care for protecting the environment anyway..
Do the majority of people actually care what he says?
I will take great pleasure on the day he dies knowing that he knows he has wasted his life on religion which is all lies.
Saving humanity from religion is more important in my opinion
=/
MarkWaldorf
24-12-2008, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Markus
I can't believe he compared homosexuality to 'the destruction of the rain forests'.
But if everyone was homosexual, there would be no mankind after years..
Is that what he meant?
I have no idea. I don't really understand any of this religion mumble jumble..:hugesmile:
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by Fom
LMFAO, Catholics make me laugh when they talk about homosexuality. Get a grip please.
Not all Catholics... Most?
Orignally posted by JDIZZEL
Not all Catholics...
Amen.
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by Fom
LMFAO, Catholics make me laugh when they talk about homosexuality. Get a grip please.
Not all Catholics...
Catholics are pathetic anyway, in fact anyone religious is. But lets not get into that debate.
30stone
24-12-2008, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Markus
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Markus
I can't believe he compared homosexuality to 'the destruction of the rain forests'.
But if everyone was homosexual, there would be no mankind after years..
Is that what he meant?
I have no idea. I don't really understand any of this religion mumble jumble..:hugesmile:
lol well its only a guess lol but though it might be.
also same spike.. like driving electric cars... or if you have petrol changing at low revs...
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by Fom
LMFAO, Catholics make me laugh when they talk about homosexuality. Get a grip please.
Not all Catholics...
Catholics are pathetic anyway, in fact anyone religious is. But lets not get into that debate.
I totally cannot believe you just posted that.
30stone
24-12-2008, 12:08 AM
Lol this will turn into somthig racist in a few minutes...
MarkWaldorf
24-12-2008, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Markus
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Markus
I can't believe he compared homosexuality to 'the destruction of the rain forests'.
But if everyone was homosexual, there would be no mankind after years..
Is that what he meant?
I have no idea. I don't really understand any of this religion mumble jumble..:hugesmile:
lol well its only a guess lol but though it might be.
Well I read it as him saying protecting humans from the changing of gender/homosexuality is as no less important than saving the rain forests from destruction. In other words, global warming is a big issue but the "blurring" of gender and protecting mankind from that is just as important.
I think it's more trans gender people than homosexuality itself, but obviously you can see where it comes into place.
I think people who are religions have been brainwashed into believing their is some man in the sky who watchs over the six billion people in the world all at once :/.
Originally posted by HUGO
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by Fom
LMFAO, Catholics make me laugh when they talk about homosexuality. Get a grip please.
Not all Catholics...
Catholics are pathetic anyway, in fact anyone religious is. But lets not get into that debate.
I totally cannot believe you just posted that.
Fom, you cannot put ALL Catholics into that generalisation... and PS its not just Catholics who see Homosexual relationshiPS as wrong...
I'm Catholic and I don't see Homosexuals as wrong...
MarkWaldorf
24-12-2008, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by TheMichaelO
I think people who are religions have been brainwashed into believing their is some man in the sky who watchs over the six billion people in the world all at once :/.
There are also people who choose to believe that, lol. I've never been brainwashed about anything related to religion, but I choose to and fully believe that there is someone out there watching everyone. And that person lays out each decision and path we make.
Originally posted by TheMichaelO
I think people who are religions have been brainwashed into believing their is some man in the sky who watchs over the six billion people in the world all at once :/.
People can believe what they want. It doesn't mean their 'brainwashed' it means people who think that religion is a load of rubbish are people who are just too ignorant to accept other peoples beliefs.
Note: I am not calling you ignorant, before you have a go at me and get yah knickers in a twist.
Spike
24-12-2008, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by TheMichaelO
I think people who are religions have been brainwashed into believing their is some man in the sky who watchs over the six billion people in the world all at once :/.
Yeah I suppose it is kinda brain washing.
The only reason the majority who do believe in religion now is because they are brought up with those views. I think we should educate the young about religion but not sway them into believing or not believing. Let them make their own mind up when they are old enough
I had a big argument about this with my mom the other day, she wants to bring my sister up as a Christian but I want her to make her own mind up in the future.
DamonJ
24-12-2008, 12:41 AM
Makes me glad to be gay to be honest.
*sticks gay porn in bible*
LemonJam
24-12-2008, 12:45 AM
With the high population increase, in a way gay people are doing the right thing...
Originally posted by DamonJ
Makes me glad to be gay to be honest.
*sticks gay porn in bible*
LMAO
ILY.
Would you go to Hell if you had sex on a Bible?
What do you reckon would happen if I asked to give the pope a blow job?
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Would you go to Hell if you had sex on a Bible?
No, but if you come on a bible - that's seen as a sign that you love God.
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Would you go to Hell if you had sex on a Bible?
I'm willing to find out :devil:
*Gives HUGO a Bible*
Meet me at the back of Tesco..
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by HUGO
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by Fom
LMFAO, Catholics make me laugh when they talk about homosexuality. Get a grip please.
Not all Catholics...
Catholics are pathetic anyway, in fact anyone religious is. But lets not get into that debate.
I totally cannot believe you just posted that.
Fom, you cannot put ALL Catholics into that generalisation... and PS its not just Catholics who see Homosexual relationshiPS as wrong...
I'm Catholic and I don't see Homosexuals as wrong...
As mentioned, I think religion is brainwashing and your believing some imaginary man in the sky. Why live by rules, when you have a whole exciting life to live.
Im not gonna tie myself down to some made up religion, religion was to give people hope in the old times, half the bible has been proven wrong by science yet people still believe it. W.e.
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by HUGO
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by Fom
LMFAO, Catholics make me laugh when they talk about homosexuality. Get a grip please.
Not all Catholics...
Catholics are pathetic anyway, in fact anyone religious is. But lets not get into that debate.
I totally cannot believe you just posted that.
Fom, you cannot put ALL Catholics into that generalisation... and PS its not just Catholics who see Homosexual relationshiPS as wrong...
I'm Catholic and I don't see Homosexuals as wrong...
As mentioned, I think religion is brainwashing and your believing some imaginary man in the sky. Why live by rules, when you have a whole exciting life to live.
Im not going to tie myself down to some made up religion, religion was to give people hope in the old times, half the bible has been proven wrong by science yet people still believe it. W.e.
Oh I don't believe it... LOL
I believe in Greek Mythology...
I was just sticking up for Catholics...
Originally posted by HUGO
Greek Mythology ftw
Zeus is my god..
P.O Jesus.
Im doing Greek theatre atm, its all about the gods. Its so fun!! (Im being sarcastic)
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by HUGO
Greek Mythology ftw
Zeus is my god..
P.O Jesus.
LMAO.
Pythagoras is the best God :lovedup:
Originally posted by Fom
Im doing Greek theatre atm, its all about the gods. Its so fun!! (Im being sarcastic)
D:
I enjoy it...
MarkWaldorf
24-12-2008, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by HUGO
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by HUGO
Greek Mythology ftw
Zeus is my god..
P.O Jesus.
LMAO.
Pythagoras is the best God :lovedup:
Isn't that Maths?
Originally posted by Markus
Originally posted by HUGO
Originally posted by JDIZZEL
Originally posted by HUGO
Greek Mythology ftw
Zeus is my god..
P.O Jesus.
LMAO.
Pythagoras is the best God :lovedup:
Isn't that Maths?
Yes.
LOL
ange7
24-12-2008, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by HUGO
Nope he is a Greek god.
fail
andyman
24-12-2008, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by HUGO
Nope he is a Greek god.
fail Greek mathematician/philosopher? Roman history more my vibe so could be wrong.
NettoSuperstar!
24-12-2008, 09:09 AM
the popes dumb we need more gay people so the world doesnt become over populated! What would jesus say??:rolleyes:
Lauren
24-12-2008, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by andyman
Greek mathematician/philosopher? Roman history more my vibe so could be wrong.
Yep, Greek Mathematician and also a Scientist. (And a self-labelled Philosopher, haha).
TheMac
24-12-2008, 09:17 AM
Anyway back OT, the Pope does have a point. If everyone was homosexual, the population would die out within the next 120 years.
Lauren
24-12-2008, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by mr_mitb
Anyway back OT, the Pope does have a point. If everyone was homosexual, the population would die out within the next 120 years.
But everyone isn't homosexual. The end.
xDramatick
24-12-2008, 09:27 AM
This is absolutely ridiculous!
Just... wtf?
What are they gonna do? Go all nazi on us and exterminate the gays? Just. ugh.
Though LOL @ being homosexual not being a sin, but homosexual acts are sinful.
Well then, forgive me father... :whistle:
Lauren
24-12-2008, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by Darenn
What are they going to do? Go all nazi on us and exterminate the gays? Just. ugh.
But he says we're destructing ourselves cos of it, which means he's saying we're ALL GAY. Is he going to kill us all?
He needs to get his arguments straight. (Pardon the pun :wink:).
TheMac
24-12-2008, 09:59 AM
Okay, but if there are more and more homosexuals, the population will continue to decrease. May seem like not that big a deal at the moment, but it could do in a few years if the population decreases.
Lauren
24-12-2008, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by mr_mitb
Okay, but if there are more and more homosexuals, the population will continue to decrease. May seem like not that big a deal at the moment, but it could do in a few years if the population decreases.
I don't think there are "more" homosexuals than years ago, it's not possible for there to be a significant increase, it's not a choice.
It's just because now it's more "socially acceptable" so people are more out about it.
This won't damage our massively over-populated World.
xDramatick
24-12-2008, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Darenn
What are they going to do? Go all nazi on us and exterminate the gays? Just. ugh.
But he says we're destructing ourselves cos of it, which means he's saying we're ALL GAY. Is he going to kill us all?
He needs to get his arguments straight. (Pardon the pun :wink:).
Wow, yeah, that really doesn't make much sense :\
Lol @ the pun.
&at the population question; I always thought that the world had too many people atm anyway. I highly doubt there'll be a point where everyone in the world is gonna be gay, so I can't see it constantly declining either.
NettoSuperstar!
24-12-2008, 10:54 AM
lol Im sure the world is not gonna run out of people because of a gayness epidemic!
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