Sticks
20-09-2004, 04:39 PM
Legendary former Nottingham Forest and Derby County boss Brian Clough has died from stomach cancer at the age of 69.
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Janette
20-09-2004, 06:18 PM
Very sad news, he was a real character in football and will be missed!
Romantic Old Bird
20-09-2004, 10:37 PM
As an avid Forest fan of many years standing, I have to say that this is a very sad day indeed.
The bloke was flawed, he had a problem with the booze but the fact remains that he was a football legend. Local TV has been full of tributes. It has (almost) united deadly enemies Derby County and Forest fans in their grief.
Both of my lads have rung home really upset to commiserate with their dad.
Goodbye Brian, and thanks for all the success.......
Romantic Old Bird
20-09-2004, 10:43 PM
Such as European cup 1979 and 1980
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Part Two - Clough and his Cups
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1976 - Anglo-Scottish Cup (Forest 5 Orient 1, over two legs)
Brian Clough's first honour as Forest manager came two years into his reign and halfway through Forest's promotion season from Division Two. In December 1976, the Reds won the much-mocked Anglo-Scottish Cup against Leyton Orient, drawing 1-1 in the away leg, and winning 4-0 at the City Ground. It was by no means a major honour, but after 17 years without a trohpy (despite a few near misses) it was a welcome win for Clough's emeging team.
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1978 - League Cup (Forest 1 Liverpool 0, replay)
Having scraped to promotion in 1977, Clough's unfancied Forest side were taking the league by storm. The first of the flood of honours that came in this era was a League Cup victory over championship rivals Liverpool.
Forest's star keeper, Peter Shilton, was cup-tied so 18-year-old Chris Woods stepped into the green jersey and wrote his name into Forest folklore, keeping a clean sheet at Wembley in front of 100,000 fans.
He repeated this feat in the replay at Old Trafford four days later in front of a crowd of 54,375. Forest held the dominant Scousers for the whole of both games, with Woods on top form in goal. And Forest got the shock winner when John O'Hare - who was only playing because of injury to captain John McGovern - was braught down for a controversial penalty by Phil Thompson. John Robertson scored from the spot, to secure the title for Forest.
Forest: Woods, Anderson, Clark, O'Hare, Lloyd, Burns, O'Neill, Bowyer, Withe, Woodcock, Robertson
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1977/78 - Football League Championship
On April 22, a 0-0 draw at Coventry secured Forest's first and only League Championship title with four games still to play. Brian Clough's team had taken the league by storm, losing only three games all year. Forest finished the season seven points ahead of previous winners Liverpool.
Tony Woodcock and Peter Withe finished the season as joint top-scorers with 19 each, and John Robertson finishing just behind with 18.
At the back, Forest defence had conceded only 24 goals, and the hard work of Kenny Burns earned him the prestigous Footballer of the Year award - the only Forest player to have been given the honour.
Peter Shilton picked up the PFA Player of the Year and Tony Woodcock was praised as Young Player of the Year. Unsurprisingly, Brian Clough was made Manager of the Year having secured his second Football League title and transformed Nottingham Forest Football Club forever.
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1978 - Charity Shield (Forest 5 Ipswich 0)
As League Champions, Forest were paired up with FA Cup winners, Ipwich Town in the traditional season-opener, the Charity Sheild at Wembley. Martin O'Neill (2), Larry Lloyd, Peter Withe and John Robertson scored as Forest hammered Town five-nil.
Forest: Shilton, Anderson, Barrett, McGovern, Lloyd, Burns, O'Neill (Needham), Gemmill, Withe, Woodcock, Robertson
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1979 - League Cup (Forest 3 Southampton 2)
Forest were out to prove that their championship win wasn't just a fluke in the 78/79 season. The Reds were battling it out on four fronts: the league title (once again exchanging blows with Liverpool), the European Cup, the FA Cup and defending their League Cup title.
Forest reached the final by beating Oldham, Oxford, Everton, Brighton and Watford in the semi-final and would defend their title against Southampton.
Southampton were in the same position as Forest the year before: recently promoted and facing the champions at Wembley. The final will always be remembered by the way assistant manager Peter Taylor took Brian Clough's place in leading the Forest team out onto the pitch, a tribute to his own valuable contribution to Forest's success.
Forest had sold Peter Withe earlier in the season to Newcastle, but in his place they had found a local hero Garry Birtles, and it was Birtles who starred as Forest retained the cup.
Southampton scored first, but Birtles hit a pair in the second half before Woodcock made the win certain, despite the Saints pulling one back late on. Forest became the first team to succesfully defend the League Cup title.
Forest: Shilton, Barrett, Clark, McGovern, Lloyd, Needham, O'Neill, Gemmill, Birtles, Woodcock, Robertson
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1979 - European Cup (Forest 1 Malmo 0)
It was just Forest's luck that, having beaten them to championship the previous year, the Reds' first opponants in the European Cup would be Liverpool. The critics wouldn't give Forest a hope against the current Champions of Europe, but Forest never took any notice of the odds. They beat Liverpool 2-0 at the City Ground, and held them to a nil-nil in the second leg at Anfield, to start off a glorious cup run.
They saw off AEK Athens with ease, before knocking out Grasshopers of Zurich to reach the semi-final.
In a thrilling two-legged encounter, Forest beat Colonge by an aggregate score of 4-3, Ian Bowyer socring the crucial goal in the away leg.
Forest would face Swedish side Malmo in the final to be played Munich's glorious Olympic Stadium on May 30, 1979. The Reds had been beaten to the championship by Liverpool, but were boosted by the European debut of the million-pound man, Trevor France who had completed his record-breaking transfer a few months previously.
And it was money well spent as moments before the half-time break, John Roberton's searching cross found Francis at the far post, Francis' diving header beat the keeper and put Forest in the lead.
There were no more goals and in front of 30,000 travelling fans from Nottingham, John McGovern lifted the European Cup for Forest.
Forest: Shilton, Anderson, Clark, McGovern, Lloyd, Burns, Francis, Bowyer, Birtles, Woodcock, Robertson
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1980 - European Super Cup (Forest 2 Barcelona 1, over two legs)
Forest added another European honour the following year, with a two-legged win over Cup Winners' Cup champions Barcelona. The Reds won 1-0 at the City Ground thanks to a goal from Charlie George, and Kenny Burns scored at the Nou Camp in front of 90,000 fans to give Forest a 2-1 victory.
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1980 - League Cup (Forest 0 Wolves 1)
For the third year running, Forest had reached the League Cup final. This time it was the turn of first team coach Jimmy Gordon to lead the team out of the tunnel. Andy Gray scored the only goal of the game after a terrible mix-up in the Forest defence gave him an easy finish and denied Forest a third succesive win.
Forest: Shilton, Anderson, Gray, McGovern, Needham, Burns, O'Neill, Bowyer, Birtles, Francis, Robertson
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1980 - European Cup (Forest 1 Humburg 0)
Despite losing out in the League Cup, and a below-par season in the league Forest were out to retain their European Cup title and prove that they were worthy champions. They beat Osters Vaxjo, Arges Pitesti, Dynamo Berlin and finally Ajax of Amsterdam to reach the final in Madrid.
Their opponants were the much-fancied German side SV Humburg, who, among other star names, featured Kevin Keegan in their line-up. About 50,000 fans watched the game in the Bernabeu. Forest were without the hero of the previous final, Trevor Frances, who had suffered an injury a few weeks before the final. In his place, 17-year-old Gary Mills partenered Garry Birtles up-front.
Forest were forced to deal with a lot of pressure from the Germans, but as usual they held strong with Llyod and Burns marshalling the back-line and Shilton producing some fine saves.
But with 20 minutes gone, Forest hit Humburg on the break. John Robertson jinked his way past the defender before playing a neat one-two with Martin O'Neill. Robertson then took the ball in his stride before blasting it into the net to give Forest the lead.
For the rest of the game, Forest weathered the Humburg pressure, to maintain their one-nil lead and win their second European Cup final.
Forest: Shilton, Anderson, Gray (Gunn), McGovern, Lloyd, Burns, O'Neill, Bowyer, Birtles, Mills (O'Hare), Robertson
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Romantic Old Bird
20-09-2004, 10:54 PM
From the BBC
Obituary: Brian Clough
Cloughie's career in pictures (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/photo_galleries/3673634.stm)
Brian Clough was a controversial, larger-than-life figure and one of the last football managers to rule his club without consulting his chairman or his shareholders.
Leading his teams to two League Championships and two European Cups were achievements considerable enough to earn him a place in the history of the game.
His often outrageous pronouncements and eccentric behaviour made Clough the best-known manager in Britain, and fair game for impressionists on television and radio.
Born in Middlesbrough, the sixth of eight children, he failed the eleven-plus examination, and left school at 15 for a job as a local clerk.
Brian Clough's brilliant record
He took Forest to two European Cups
He scored 251 goals in 274 games for Boro and Sunderland
Clough won 594 of 1,319 matches as a manager
A year later he signed for Middlesbrough FC, beginning what was to be a brief but successful career as a centre-forward.
In 274 appearances for Middlesbrough and Sunderland he scored 251 goals, a post-war record, and was capped twice for England.
But Clough's playing days ended on Boxing Day 1962 with a serious knee injury in a game playing for Sunderland against Bury.
Beginning his managerial career with Fourth Division Hartlepool he was, at 30, the youngest manager in the Football League.
After two successful seasons, he joined Derby County.
Cloughie: Success as a centre-forward
By this time, Clough was beginning to make his mark for his shrewd approach to management - and also his eccentric behaviour.
His detractors found him arrogant and rude, but no-one could deny that his methods worked.
Derby took the Second Division title in 1969 and the League Championship in 1972.
I hope there is a football pitch in heaven for him as he lived for the game
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When a row with the directors forced his resignation a year later, there were protest marches in Derby.
Two weeks later he joined Brighton, but stayed only nine months before being lured to Leeds United to begin one of British football's top jobs.
His reputation for aggressive management soon got him into trouble, and he was sacked after only 44 days when the players mutinied.
One reason I never became the England manager was because the FA thought I would take over and run the show. They were dead right
Brian Clough
Clough's next move, to Nottingham Forest in 1975, launched the most successful period of his career.
The club won promotion from the Second Division in 1977, and went on to win two European Cup titles, a League Championship and the League Cup on four occasions.
But the FA Cup eluded him. Nottingham Forest lost to Spurs in the 1991 final. He also failed in his ambition to manage the national side, being turned down for the England job in 1977.
His outspoken comments continued to feed his reputation, but the public still loved him as one of the few instantly-recognisable football managers in Britain.
He insisted on good behaviour by both players and supporters, and caused a stir during a 1989 game by chasing fans off the pitch and slapping one of them.
44 tumultuous days at Leeds United
Later he invited two of the offending fans to the ground for a chat and mutual forgiveness, literally kissing and making up.
By 1991 he was the longest-serving manager in the league.
The recipient of an OBE in the Birthday Honours list, he responded typically with the comment that it stood for Old Big 'Ead. Two years later, after 18 years at Forest, Brian Clough retired. Heavy drinking had affected his health, and he was a shadow of his former self.
His fragile health meant that he avoided FA disciplinary action over alleged illegal payments for players and retired to the Derbyshire hills.
'Cloughie' was a phenomenon. His abrasive manner alienated some of those colleagues closest to him.
But he was a natural motivator who produced some of the most talented teams of recent years, and inspired sporting and managerial success
Originally posted by Janette
Very sad news, he was a real character in football and will be missed!
Absolutely.. this is very sad news.
BusyBee
21-09-2004, 01:18 PM
ROB that list of successes is a mark of the greatness of the man. He was disliked by many but loved by many more. Both OH and son were very upset when they heard the news. As OH said "one of the old school shame there arent any around now to sort out the namby pamby over paid footballers who are too big for their boots". When Cloughie spoke people listened. A great loss.
Janette
21-09-2004, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by BusyBee
"shame there arent any around now to sort out the namby pamby over paid footballers who are too big for their boots".
Just what Mr Clough would have said!
That's why I liked him
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