"Chav"

[andyman]

We hear the world all the time but what does the word really mean?
Is it to label a type of person?
When you hear or see the word chav what comes into your mind?

[jonsep]

Burbery

[AngRemembered]

its an anagram of Jade Goody:whistle:

[Stu]

Originally posted by andyman
We hear the world all the time but what does the word really mean?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/kingofthering/chavs.jpg

[andyman]

Originally posted by Angiebabe
its an anagram of Jade Goody:whistle: Name some more :bigsmile:

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by Angiebabe
its an anagram of Jade Goody:whistle: Name some more :bigsmile:

it means Jade Goody in french:joker:

[andyman]

So the word chav is to label a type of white person?

[andyman]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andyman
We hear the world all the time but what does the word really mean?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/kingofthering/chavs.jpg LOL that pic :laugh:

[Stu]

Originally posted by andyman
So the word chav is to label a type of white person?
Is this meant to spring into some sort of debate at a later date? Their Chavs. Like butter is butter, and like gold is gold.

All the info you ever need... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav)

[andyman]

So it's used to insult?

[Stu]

Originally posted by andyman
So it's used to insult?
Its a word. Not a fact. Words tend to be flexible. Some people dont take it as an insult, some do. Some see it as a mindset, some see it as a fashion statement. You can see it as a way to say 'Hi!' to the postman if you like.

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by jonsep
Burbery

burberrys a bit ancient now lol. its aquascutum!

[Stu]

Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by jonsep
Burbery

burberrys a bit ancient now lol. its aquascutum!
:joker:

I did a Google on her and all I see is a slightly more blue shade of the traditional Chav Burberry.

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andyman
So it's used to insult?
Its a word. Not a fact. Words tend to be flexible. Some people dont take it as an insult, some do. Some see it as a mindset, some see it as a fashion statement. You can see it as a way to say 'Hi!' to the postman if you like.

chav isnt used to insult people because chavs call thereselves chavs or neds.
its just a type of person like emos and skaters.
each to there own:D

[Stu]

Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andyman
So it's used to insult?
Its a word. Not a fact. Words tend to be flexible. Some people dont take it as an insult, some do. Some see it as a mindset, some see it as a fashion statement. You can see it as a way to say 'Hi!' to the postman if you like.

chav isnt used to insult people because chavs call thereselves chavs or neds.
its just a type of person like emos and skaters.
each to there own:D
True, and that is what I am getting at, but it can be used as an insult also. Not amogst Chav's, mind you, but amongst non-Chavs, as in ''those bloody Chavs on the street corners...''

[AlexBigBrother]

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/uploads/forums/asbo_chav.jpg

[Fom]

I suppose chav is an offensive word... I wouldn't want to be labelled as a chav. A chav to me is the scum of the country, the people making our country look dirty. Loud music playing in the bus, swearing in the town center at the top of their voices, drunk on our streets, throwing insults at passers by. The world would be better without them.

A chav is like a failed gangster... :laugh:

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by andyman
So it's used to insult?
Its a word. Not a fact. Words tend to be flexible. Some people dont take it as an insult, some do. Some see it as a mindset, some see it as a fashion statement. You can see it as a way to say 'Hi!' to the postman if you like.

chav isnt used to insult people because chavs call thereselves chavs or neds.
its just a type of person like emos and skaters.
each to there own:D
True, and that is what I am getting at, but it can be used as an insult also. Not amogst Chav's, mind you, but amongst non-Chavs, as in ''those bl***y Chavs on the street corners...''

yeah.
but thats what i dont understand either people hang around the streets but they aint all chavs!

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by Fom
I suppose chav is an offensive word... I wouldn't want to be labelled as a chav. A chav to me is the scum of the country, the people making our country look dirty. Loud music playing in the bus, swearing in the town center at the top of their voices, drunk on our streets, throwing insults at passers by. The world would be better without them.

A chav is like a failed gangster... :laugh:

everything uu have just named there isnt a chav!
anyone can play music on the bus. the emos music is probz just as loud on the buses well here anyways. everyone swears:S. people coming out of a pub that r drunk r on the streets haa. not just chavs tho because if chavs walk past skaters then skaters shout insults! basically uu r using the stereotype but then its not really just chavs is it!

[Ross]

SOME chavs are hot though, like really hot

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by Ross
SOME chavs are hot though, like really hot


agreeed:D
and they dont all act like the way everyone else says they do!

[Stu]

Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Fom
I suppose chav is an offensive word... I wouldn't want to be labelled as a chav. A chav to me is the scum of the country, the people making our country look dirty. Loud music playing in the bus, swearing in the town center at the top of their voices, drunk on our streets, throwing insults at passers by. The world would be better without them.

A chav is like a failed gangster... :laugh:

everything uu have just named there isnt a chav!
anyone can play music on the bus. the emos music is probz just as loud on the buses well here anyways. everyone swears:S. people coming out of a pub that r drunk r on the streets haa. not just chavs tho because if chavs walk past skaters then skaters shout insults! basically uu r using the stereotype but then its not really just chavs is it!
No, he is right. Pretty much everything he named their I have seen Chav's partake in. Yes, not all Chav's, and yes, some people who play loud music and get drunk on the streets and all that are not all Chav's, but a lot of them are.

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Fom
I suppose chav is an offensive word... I wouldn't want to be labelled as a chav. A chav to me is the scum of the country, the people making our country look dirty. Loud music playing in the bus, swearing in the town center at the top of their voices, drunk on our streets, throwing insults at passers by. The world would be better without them.

A chav is like a failed gangster... :laugh:

everything uu have just named there isnt a chav!
anyone can play music on the bus. the emos music is probz just as loud on the buses well here anyways. everyone swears:S. people coming out of a pub that r drunk r on the streets haa. not just chavs tho because if chavs walk past skaters then skaters shout insults! basically uu r using the stereotype but then its not really just chavs is it!
No, he is right. Pretty much everything he named their I have seen Chav's partake in. Yes, not all Chav's, and yes, some people who play loud music and get drunk on the streets and all that are not all Chav's, but a lot of them are.

exactley. so uu cant stereotype the word chav as being people who do that. cause loads of people do things like that n they aint all chavs!

[Fom]

Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Fom
I suppose chav is an offensive word... I wouldn't want to be labelled as a chav. A chav to me is the scum of the country, the people making our country look dirty. Loud music playing in the bus, swearing in the town center at the top of their voices, drunk on our streets, throwing insults at passers by. The world would be better without them.

A chav is like a failed gangster... :laugh:

everything uu have just named there isnt a chav!
anyone can play music on the bus. the emos music is probz just as loud on the buses well here anyways. everyone swears:S. people coming out of a pub that r drunk r on the streets haa. not just chavs tho because if chavs walk past skaters then skaters shout insults! basically uu r using the stereotype but then its not really just chavs is it!

I don't know where you live but that doesn't happen where I live. I missed out the wearing of trackies, hair gelled to their heads, and constantly smoking weed. A chav to me, in my opinion, when tbh there is no specific definition of chav, but chavs to me are the pathetic useless people that take money from the dole and never have a job and they live to make everyones lives worse.

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Fom
I suppose chav is an offensive word... I wouldn't want to be labelled as a chav. A chav to me is the scum of the country, the people making our country look dirty. Loud music playing in the bus, swearing in the town center at the top of their voices, drunk on our streets, throwing insults at passers by. The world would be better without them.

A chav is like a failed gangster... :laugh:

everything uu have just named there isnt a chav!
anyone can play music on the bus. the emos music is probz just as loud on the buses well here anyways. everyone swears:S. people coming out of a pub that r drunk r on the streets haa. not just chavs tho because if chavs walk past skaters then skaters shout insults! basically uu r using the stereotype but then its not really just chavs is it!

I don't know where you live but that doesn't happen where I live. I missed out the wearing of trackies, hair gelled to their heads, and constantly smoking weed. A chav to me, in my opinion, when tbh there is no specific definition of chav, but chavs to me are the pathetic useless people that take money from the dole and never have a job and they live to make everyones lives worse.

right ok i do see your point, but uu cant just assume every chav is the same. not all emos slit their wrists[y.

[Stu]

Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
exactley. so uu cant stereotype the word chav as being people who do that. cause loads of people do things like that n they aint all chavs!
Sure you can, because a lot of them do. And that tends to be the **** way in which the world works. Unfortunately, and as unfair as it can be, stereotypes have to come form somewhere and have to have some basis in truth.

[Fom]

Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Fom
I suppose chav is an offensive word... I wouldn't want to be labelled as a chav. A chav to me is the scum of the country, the people making our country look dirty. Loud music playing in the bus, swearing in the town center at the top of their voices, drunk on our streets, throwing insults at passers by. The world would be better without them.

A chav is like a failed gangster... :laugh:

everything uu have just named there isnt a chav!
anyone can play music on the bus. the emos music is probz just as loud on the buses well here anyways. everyone swears:S. people coming out of a pub that r drunk r on the streets haa. not just chavs tho because if chavs walk past skaters then skaters shout insults! basically uu r using the stereotype but then its not really just chavs is it!

I don't know where you live but that doesn't happen where I live. I missed out the wearing of trackies, hair gelled to their heads, and constantly smoking weed. A chav to me, in my opinion, when tbh there is no specific definition of chav, but chavs to me are the pathetic useless people that take money from the dole and never have a job and they live to make everyones lives worse.

right ok i do see your point, but uu cant just assume every chav is the same. not all emos slit their wrists[y.

No I agree, I have friends who wear trackies and swear a lot and all that. But I dont call them Chav's because they just dont come accross as chavs. When you see a chav you know if they are a chav or not.

[Ross]

I'ma keep saying this 'cause I had major crush-idge on like 3 chavs before... I'm bad, I'm bad, I'm really really bad :whistle:

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
exactley. so uu cant stereotype the word chav as being people who do that. cause loads of people do things like that n they aint all chavs!
Sure you can, because a lot of them do. And that tends to be the **** way in which the world works. Unfortunately, and as unfair as it can be, stereotypes have to come form somewhere and have to have some basis in truth.

yeah well i dont agree. alot of chavs r my friends and hardly any of them do what uu said lol.
dont group everyone the same, yeah ah chav is trackys everyday aquascutum bottles o bucky fighting all the time stoned, but then what about people that dont wear trackies and smoke hash? ...

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Fom
I suppose chav is an offensive word... I wouldn't want to be labelled as a chav. A chav to me is the scum of the country, the people making our country look dirty. Loud music playing in the bus, swearing in the town center at the top of their voices, drunk on our streets, throwing insults at passers by. The world would be better without them.

A chav is like a failed gangster... :laugh:

everything uu have just named there isnt a chav!
anyone can play music on the bus. the emos music is probz just as loud on the buses well here anyways. everyone swears:S. people coming out of a pub that r drunk r on the streets haa. not just chavs tho because if chavs walk past skaters then skaters shout insults! basically uu r using the stereotype but then its not really just chavs is it!

I don't know where you live but that doesn't happen where I live. I missed out the wearing of trackies, hair gelled to their heads, and constantly smoking weed. A chav to me, in my opinion, when tbh there is no specific definition of chav, but chavs to me are the pathetic useless people that take money from the dole and never have a job and they live to make everyones lives worse.

right ok i do see your point, but uu cant just assume every chav is the same. not all emos slit their wrists[y.

No I agree, I have friends who wear trackies and swear a lot and all that. But I dont call them Chav's because they just dont come accross as chavs. When you see a chav you know if they are a chav or not.

yup agreed:)

[DamonJ]

Chavs anger me to the core. They are violent, ignorant scum with no ambitions or education, therefore no job, claiming from the government, wasting tax payer's money on booze and weed, while shouting at and insulting people they pass in the streets. Thety're ****ing scum and all deserve to be shot. Fact.

[Stu]

Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
exactley. so uu cant stereotype the word chav as being people who do that. cause loads of people do things like that n they aint all chavs!
Sure you can, because a lot of them do. And that tends to be the **** way in which the world works. Unfortunately, and as unfair as it can be, stereotypes have to come form somewhere and have to have some basis in truth.

yeah well i dont agree. alot of chavs r my friends and hardly any of them do what uu said lol.
dont group everyone the same, yeah ah chav is trackys everyday aquascutum bottles o bucky fighting all the time stoned, but then what about people that dont wear trackies and smoke hash? ...
I dont wear tracksuits and I smoke weed almost everyday. Im not a Chav though :wink:.

All that I am saying is a lot of Chav's are scum. I agree, not all of them are, and im sure you have friends who are not, but the ones who are scums innevitably end up getting stereotyped.

You might notice it is always the negative aspects of a subculture that bring forth the stereotypes, ruining it for everybody else :thumbs:.

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by DamonJ
Chavs anger me to the core. They are violent, ignorant scum with no ambitions or education, therefore no job, claiming from the government, wasting tax payer's money on booze and weed, while shouting at and insulting people they pass in the streets. Thety're ****ing scum and all deserve to be shot. Fact.


i feel the same way but onlu emos anger me. they should all slit their wrists and do it properly.
FACT!

[Stu]

Originally posted by DamonJ
all deserve to be shot. Fact.
What was that you said about them being violent? Congratulations on missing most of the thread and being a hypocrite.

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
exactley. so uu cant stereotype the word chav as being people who do that. cause loads of people do things like that n they aint all chavs!
Sure you can, because a lot of them do. And that tends to be the **** way in which the world works. Unfortunately, and as unfair as it can be, stereotypes have to come form somewhere and have to have some basis in truth.

yeah well i dont agree. alot of chavs r my friends and hardly any of them do what uu said lol.
dont group everyone the same, yeah ah chav is trackys everyday aquascutum bottles o bucky fighting all the time stoned, but then what about people that dont wear trackies and smoke hash? ...
I dont wear tracksuits and I smoke weed almost everyday. Im not a Chav though :wink:.

All that I am saying is a lot of Chav's are scum. I agree, not all of them are, and Im sure you have friends who are not, but the ones who are scums innevitably end up getting stereotyped.

You might notice it is always the negative aspects of a subculture that bring forth the stereotypes, ruining it for everybody else :thumbs:.

yup exactley. because if one person classed as a chav does something then all other chavs or people who people class as "chavs" all get labelled too.

[DamonJ]

Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by DamonJ
Chavs anger me to the core. They are violent, ignorant scum with no ambitions or education, therefore no job, claiming from the government, wasting tax payer's money on booze and weed, while shouting at and insulting people they pass in the streets. Thety're ****ing scum and all deserve to be shot. Fact.


i feel the same way but onlu emos anger me. they should all slit their wrists and do it properly.
FACT!

Yet its not Emos parading the streets in gangs, beating the **** out of poor innocent people, stabbing teenagers & taking them away from their families is it? It's the scum that are known as Chavs, the disgusting species that don't even deserve to live, let alone going out causing terror on the streets.

[Stu]

For the record, assuming both the Chav and the Emo were both non-violent, I would rather be trapped in a well with the Chav. A lot more down to earth, and they might have a jay :tongue:.

[DamonJ]

Originally posted by Stu
For the record, assuming both the Chav and the Emo were both non-violent, I would rather be trapped in a well with the Chav. A lot more down to earth, and they might have a jay :tongue:.

Well, you do have a point. :tongue:

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by DamonJ
Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by DamonJ
Chavs anger me to the core. They are violent, ignorant scum with no ambitions or education, therefore no job, claiming from the government, wasting tax payer's money on booze and weed, while shouting at and insulting people they pass in the streets. Thety're ****ing scum and all deserve to be shot. Fact.


i feel the same way but onlu emos anger me. they should all slit their wrists and do it properly.
FACT!

Yet its not Emos parading the streets in gangs, beating the **** out of poor innocent people, stabbing teenagers & taking them away from their families is it? It's the scum that are known as Chavs, the disgusting species that don't even deserve to live, let alone going out causing terror on the streets.

another stereotype:Z
not all chavs go around fighting, and anyone can kill someone not just chavs:S

[Stu]

Originally posted by DamonJ
Originally posted by Stu
For the record, assuming both the Chav and the Emo were both non-violent, I would rather be trapped in a well with the Chav. A lot more down to earth, and they might have a jay :tongue:.

Well, you do have a point. :tongue:
Besides which, the Emo would blend in too much with the darkness of the well :joker:.

[DamonJ]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by DamonJ
Originally posted by Stu
For the record, assuming both the Chav and the Emo were both non-violent, I would rather be trapped in a well with the Chav. A lot more down to earth, and they might have a jay :tongue:.

Well, you do have a point. :tongue:
Besides which, the Emo would blend in too much with the darkness of the well :joker:.

And they may impale you on their eyeliner in the darkness :tongue:

[Tom4784]

Although not all of them, chavs are a major problem when you see knife and gang crimes on the television it isn't emos or goths commiting them. I myself wear what could be called chavvy clothes regurlary as my preferred taste of clothes aren't really suitable for a college day. I'm not saying all chavs are violent but ENOUGH of them are, the only time anyone's ever shouted insults at me in the streets were chavs.

[*mazedsalv**]

Ive met loads of nice chavs... they are not all thieves.

[AyeAye_xO]

Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Ive met loads of nice chavs... they are not all thieves.


well said :D

[letmein]

Urbandictionary.com
Wikipedia.com

It basically means low class.

Many think they're from America's West Cost (Side) and are in gangs. :laugh2:

[Xander]

What a Chav is to me is a person who is someone who is low class, loud, disruptive behavior, off their heads, swearing loudly, playing music loudly on the bus, can't talk properly (Talking really common, and sort of gangsta?), causing trouble, violent, as well as the obvious wearing of matching tracksuit top and bottoms, gold chains, bandanas, burberry.

[Deirdre]

Chav stand for council housing and violence btw:thumbs:

There's "chavs" here in Galway too. Drink buckfast and hang around town all day.. post pictures of themselves pissed on bebo:rolleyes:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Xander
What a Chav is to me is a person who is someone who is low class, loud, disruptive behavior, off their heads, swearing loudly, playing music loudly on the bus, can't talk properly (Talking really common, and sort of gangsta?), causing trouble, violent, as well as the obvious wearing of matching tracksuit top and bottoms, gold chains, bandanas, burberry.

To me, they're just idiots.

Where I'm from, a chav is someone violent and in a gang.

[Novo]

Joey barton And celtic fans

thats all i think of when i hear the word " chav "

:laugh2:

[letmein]

Emos keep to themselves. I have no problem with them. If they want to stay depressed and miserable, I couldn't care less. They aren't bothering anyone. Chavs have ruined Britain and are costing the country. They are useless to society. As someone pointed out, they are in gangs, and do psychical harm to society.

[30stone]

Originally posted by .Andy.
Joey barton And celtic fans

thats all i think of when i hear the word " chav "

:laugh2:

Cardiff fans... :rolleyes:

[Loukas]

In the part of London i'm from Chav's simply mean, Something you are not.

E.G. This picture below:

http://listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/chav.jpg

A clear chav. But they are a chav because they are trying to be something they are not. This guy thinks he is cool and stylish and thinks he is *******ing coolio! :conf2:

[Damaris]

I hate chavs so much.

They ruin the whole country.

They just want to fight.

I hate the way they stan around the city looking for someone to attack.

On Thursday me and my girl mates went up the city we were mucking about on this rock and a chav came up to us and said what are you laughing at us for? My friend said we are laughing at each other the chav went say sorry and my friend replied What? The chav said why are you looking at me like that and spat in my friends face.


Now chavs know how to ruin a good time.

In the words of Ida Maria there all going to hell.

[30stone]

Some chavs are ok...

Probably because i was one for about a year...

[bronaaaa]

Originally posted by 30stone
Some chavs are ok...

Probably because i was one for about a year...

:laugh:

I don't mind them that much..but there's like none here anyway

[Tom4784]

Chavs are disgusting creatures that are more crab then man. One of my mate's is a chav but i call him the daywalker as he's not violent, rude or evil.

Apart from that, Chavs sicken me. :bored:

[andyman]

Lol, Chavs are people aswell...

Hug a hoodie!:devil:



*yeh got 20p mate?*

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by andyman
Lol, Chavs are people aswell...

Hug a hoodie!:devil:



*yeh got 20p mate?*

Ye speak LIES!!!!! :joker:

[30stone]

I think i dislike chavs a little more than i dislike emos...

Though im not sure coz i still have some chav firends..

[andyman]

Do chavs drive Vauxhalls?

[JOSHUAH!]

Vauxhall Nova's in Burberry pattern.
They drink Lambrini.
Smoke.
Fred Perry.

CHAVTASTIC.

[30stone]

Dont start andy. LOL.


But yeh, Fiesta, Corsa, 106/206/306
Citeron c2 are the basis of boy racer.

I dont want a little car so im getting an astra (=

[30stone]

Ohh and burberry is actually real expensive i went to um bond street or oxford street with my brother they have like 800 pound handbags n that.. lol.

Emo's and Chavs are kinda the same

Sterotypically:
Both smoke/ smoke weed.
Dress badly, even when its formal.
Play **** music in public places
Get Drunk in public
Tend to dislike eachother.

Not like that in my area though (=

[andyman]

I do like vectra's tho.. I had one 5 years ago.

Would love a Evo or Skyline but cost too much and i hate saving and don't want a loan, dam!

[andyman]

About your avi.. Get a number plate with 4Q2 at the end :bigsmile:

[30stone]

Lol vectra's are ok coz they are cheap but thats about all, we get the new insignia in a couple of week my dad does anyway. Going to hate seeing the audi go.

Skylines are ugly...

Evos are great but because they are meant for rallys, they can't be over 2 litre engine. so they have big turbo chargers, and use loads of petrol. lol

[30stone]

Originally posted by andyman
About your avi.. Get a number plate with 4Q2 at the end :bigsmile:

Why? lol

BTM 4Qt


Also girl in my year got

M155 LCM i though it was kinda cool.

[andyman]

Think about it.. 4Q2..

Sounds like? :laugh:

[30stone]

For Cue - too

[andyman]

Yey, naughty rude word.. But only sounds like..

Be great to have that on a number plate.. The driver behind can read it n weep! Ha!

[30stone]

Lol i didnt understand i decided to say it really fast took a few seconds.

Fook you to.

[fishseller]

http://shesoghetto.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/chav3.jpg

[hannah.]

Originally posted by AyeAye_xO
Originally posted by DamonJ
Chavs anger me to the core. They are violent, ignorant scum with no ambitions or education, therefore no job, claiming from the government, wasting tax payer's money on booze and weed, while shouting at and insulting people they pass in the streets. Thety're ****ing scum and all deserve to be shot. Fact.


i feel the same way but onlu emos anger me. they should all slit their wrists and do it properly.
FACT!

what a horrible and stupid thing to say

[hannah.]

also, chavs dont wear burberry, they wear clothes with the fake burberry check on them :wink:

[Tom4784]

In the Emos Vs Chavs debate (such a debate worthy of Serious debates) Chavs are obviously worser, emos only use blades on themselves not others. :devil:

Seriously Emos are better in every way over chavs. Chavs = Crabs.

[HeatherTWx]

"Chavs" are just normal people who have decided to be different.

my brother and his friends are supposidly "chavs" but there not there just you average lads who wanna have a laugh and stand out. They dont cause any trouble at all.