Is the recession as bad as the news makes out?

[Scarlett.]

So, we know the news always try and scare us (especially with all that global warming carp)

Is the recession as bad as they are making out?

[30stone]

Pretty much... New look is now losing jobs and marks and spencer...

though im not feeling it coz i dont have a job... and dont pay for anything (=

[Novo]

No They are making it out to be a lot worse

The prices have not gone up here anyway

and the petrol is 0.83

[Scarlett.]

The choccy bars went from 40p to 60p at ciollege :bored:

[Tom4784]

It depends how you look at it, some people aren't feeling the effects while other people are really struggling. Our family hasn't been affected much at all yet so I can't really say in dpeth how bad it might be for others.

[30stone]

My dads taking redundancy... but only because he wants to lol... and hes getting loads for it and working with his company for 9 more months and then 3 as a contracted so he gets payed more. gets payed for weekends now since he will be working them to at like 400 pound a day.

gets to keep his company car and his phone for 3 months after he leave to..

its kinda funny..

[Lewis.]

Originally posted by 30stone
My dads taking redundancy... but only because he wants to lol... and hes getting loads for it and working with his company for 9 more months and then 3 as a contracted so he gets payed more. gets payed for weekends now since he will be working them to at like 400 pound a day.

gets to keep his company car and his phone for 3 months after he leave to..

its kinda funny..

400 Pounds a day? My stepdad earns that in about a week and a half!

[Spike]

It is bad but nowhere near as bad as the media try to make out
They need a story so they just use all the economic gloom and make it sound worse than it is to buy the newspapers, watch the news and that

[Stu]

While I understand people are losing jobs, it is by no means the end of the world.

About the global warming comment however : I dont get how people can still be so naive towards it. Bad or not, the Earth IS in ****. It's not a media scare story, FFS.

[Sticks]

Yes - and it is probably much worse

We seem to have got into a feedback loop causing things to degenerate fast.

I would like to see if this can be modeled using non-linear maths and chaos theory.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Lol sticks you crack me up! ...and if I just can fit this damned flux capacitor!

Businesses need to evolve and be in touch with whats going on in the modern world. Thats why the likes of Woolies, Adams etc wont survive! Theyre out of touch. I think things will pick up in a couple of years, seems to go in cycles this recession lark!

[pinkmichk]

i'm not sure but i do think we are not in the worst part of it yet i'm not affected at the moment cos thankfully food prices have started coming down

[lily.]

It depends on your circumstances really. There are people who are badly affected by it, but I'm not one of them thankfully.

We don't have a huge income, and we don't have a mortgage..

I think people with huge mortgages, 2 cars, etc, are being affected more than people who didn't really have much to begin with. lol

Finally being skint pays off..

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Linda
Finally being skint pays off..

about time :thumbs2:

[lily.]

haha.. yeah, I'd say so.. we need to start a skint club for TiBB michelle.. lol

[pinkmichk]

:laugh: i'm there

[Jackie]

The amount of shops closing at the moment shows we're in a recission there's about 2 shops a day closing yesturday it was Freemans the catalogue laying people off.

[30stone]

Originally posted by Lewiis.Xx
Originally posted by 30stone
My dads taking redundancy... but only because he wants to lol... and hes getting loads for it and working with his company for 9 more months and then 3 as a contracted so he gets payed more. gets payed for weekends now since he will be working them to at like 400 pound a day.

gets to keep his company car and his phone for 3 months after he leave to..

its kinda funny..

400 Pounds a day? My stepdad earns that in about a week and a half!

Yeh you get no beenfits with it though but one of the contractors my dad works with earns 640 pound a day lol its crazy..

[andyman]

Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Lewiis.Xx
Originally posted by 30stone
My dads taking redundancy... but only because he wants to lol... and hes getting loads for it and working with his company for 9 more months and then 3 as a contracted so he gets payed more. gets payed for weekends now since he will be working them to at like 400 pound a day.

gets to keep his company car and his phone for 3 months after he leave to..

its kinda funny..

400 Pounds a day? My stepdad earns that in about a week and a half!

Yeh you get no beenfits with it though but one of the contractors my dad works with earns 640 pound a day lol its crazy..
£150,000 a year is alot of money, what does he do to?

[andyman]

Originally posted by Stu
While I understand people are losing jobs, it is by no means the end of the world.

About the global warming comment however : I dont get how people can still be so naive towards it. Bad or not, the Earth IS in ****. It's not a media scare story, FFS. Yes Natural global warming.

[30stone]

Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Lewiis.Xx
Originally posted by 30stone
My dads taking redundancy... but only because he wants to lol... and hes getting loads for it and working with his company for 9 more months and then 3 as a contracted so he gets payed more. gets payed for weekends now since he will be working them to at like 400 pound a day.

gets to keep his company car and his phone for 3 months after he leave to..

its kinda funny..

400 Pounds a day? My stepdad earns that in about a week and a half!

Yeh you get no beenfits with it though but one of the contractors my dad works with earns 640 pound a day lol its crazy..
£150,000 a year is alot of money, what does he do to?



Hes Just a contractor at Yell.

My dad is a project manager there, and doesnt make anywhere near that which is why he wants redundancy because you make a lot more as a contractor.

The bloke also does something with like importing computers or somthing but he makes money from that to..

He has a 60 foot yatch lol which is pretty cool.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by Stu
While I understand people are losing jobs, it is by no means the end of the world.

About the global warming comment however : I dont get how people can still be so naive towards it. Bad or not, the Earth IS in ****. It's not a media scare story, FFS. Yes Natural global warming.

Yeh have to sort of agree with Andy (wow makes a change eh Andy? lol). Im sceptical that global warming is down to our carbon emissions!...We'll get moderated soon for going off topic!

[Fom]

The global warming isn't caused by us but we are pushing it forwards and pushing it further than it should be going. It's not our fault it's as bad as it is, but it's or fault for making it worse. Cutting down will help control it and can make it a little less worse. If we manage to stop the earth going 2 degrees warmer so many lives will be saved. Thats possible if we cut emissions.

And is the recession is as bad as it seems? For some people yes... for teenagers obviously not. But for builders, people owning shops and people trying to sell their house it is hell for them. People are losing jobs, shops are closing, and no one can sell anything because no one wants to buy anything. You might not think it is bad, but think of all these people's lives that are ruined by losing jobs... and no where else is hiring because they dont want to spend money on that. So all these people losing jobs have no where else to go!

[andyman]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by Stu
While I understand people are losing jobs, it is by no means the end of the world.

About the global warming comment however : I dont get how people can still be so naive towards it. Bad or not, the Earth IS in ****. It's not a media scare story, FFS. Yes Natural global warming.

Yeh have to sort of agree with Andy (wow makes a change eh Andy? lol). Im sceptical that global warming is down to our carbon emissions!...We'll get moderated soon for going off topic!
Many people don't buy into the left wing crazy lies! It is a huge con but many fall for it because clever lies are being used that covers the facts! If all burning of fosil fuels stopped it would still be the same! Yes global warming is real just like the many thousands of times it has happend in the past! We live on a Active living planet with solar and deep space activity that affects our planet and will continue to do say with humans here or not.

[30stone]

We are causing global warming yet our summers are getting colder ...

Ill still rev high when driving lol. Changing gear at 2500 rpm helps the environment :bored:

[Fom]

Yeh but Ben thats not the problem, it doesnt matter how hot or cold it is in this country... plus thats not caused by global warming thats just been a problem with the weather from greenland or somewhere coming to us instead of them. If it gets warmed in the north or south pole, thats when it gets dangerous. A matter of 1 degree will kill something, if any of that ice melts, it will flood somewhere. Imagine the whole north pole melting, nearly the whole planet will be under water!

[andyman]

The recession will get worse, unemployment will be at 3m, not seen in a very long time.
The uk has been living on credit and past 10 years was a credit binge by the people and the government with the hangover starting and only just starting.
The uk will pull through like we have done in the past but always at a cost.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Im all for cutting down on pollution, saving the environment etc but for the right reasons, not so the Govt have a stick to beat us with. Do you see car manufacturers etc being coerced into making environmentally friendly cars etc? Not really because fast cars and huge jeeps mean big bucks! But theyll happily take more money off us for using them (when we have no other choice). Businesses dont recycle like we are and they produce the most waste. Our carbon emissions are a minute percentage of all emissions produced. Natural emissions are huge and some argue are increasing because the sun is getting hotter. But it suits to say its us causing it

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by Stu
While I understand people are losing jobs, it is by no means the end of the world.

About the global warming comment however : I dont get how people can still be so naive towards it. Bad or not, the Earth IS in ****. It's not a media scare story, FFS. Yes Natural global warming.

Yeh have to sort of agree with Andy (wow makes a change eh Andy? lol). Im sceptical that global warming is down to our carbon emissions!...We'll get moderated soon for going off topic!
Many people don't buy into the left wing crazy lies! It is a huge con but many fall for it because clever lies are being used that covers the facts! If all burning of fosil fuels stopped it would still be the same! Yes global warming is real just like the many thousands of times it has happend in the past! We live on a Active living planet with solar and deep space activity that affects our planet and will continue to do say with humans here or not.

I wouldnt call it left wing. But Goverments have cottoned on to the benefits of going that way and run with it I reckon

[30stone]

Originally posted by Fom
Yeh but Ben thats not the problem, it doesnt matter how hot or cold it is in this country... plus thats not caused by global warming thats just been a problem with the weather from greenland or somewhere coming to us instead of them. If it gets warmed in the north or south pole, thats when it gets dangerous. A matter of 1 degree will kill something, if any of that ice melts, it will flood somewhere. Imagine the whole north pole melting, nearly the whole planet will be under water!

I haven't really read up on it but heh i just thought everything seemed to be to do with global warming at the moment.

I know how the earth will be affected by changes in temperature though, i know little bits of information lol..

And no offence but i never thought you would be really smart lol :thumbs:

[andyman]

Best to find the global warming posts thingy! :spin2:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yeh there was one werent there? We'll be infrit else!

[Fom]

Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by Fom
Yeh but Ben thats not the problem, it doesnt matter how hot or cold it is in this country... plus thats not caused by global warming thats just been a problem with the weather from greenland or somewhere coming to us instead of them. If it gets warmed in the north or south pole, thats when it gets dangerous. A matter of 1 degree will kill something, if any of that ice melts, it will flood somewhere. Imagine the whole north pole melting, nearly the whole planet will be under water!

I haven't really read up on it but heh i just thought everything seemed to be to do with global warming at the moment.

I know how the earth will be affected by changes in temperature though, i know little bits of information lol..

And no offence but i never thought you would be really smart lol :thumbs:

I'm not really that smart lol, I just read up on things a lot for my job. Can't act if you don't know what your acting about. Actors are knowledgeable people...

[Stu]

This is not the first time I have seen Andy mention those evil left wing loonys with regard to somehting ALL cross sections of political belief talk about and believe in. Stop dividing everything into left and right, FFS.

Whatever we are doing, we aint helping the planet any better, like Fom said.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yeh but the real difference is never going to be made because theres money to be made my friend! and lol yeh its always the loony lefts fault!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Ellis
Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by Stu
While I understand people are losing jobs, it is by no means the end of the world.

About the global warming comment however : I dont get how people can still be so naive towards it. Bad or not, the Earth IS in ****. It's not a media scare story, FFS. Yes Natural global warming.

Yeh have to sort of agree with Andy (wow makes a change eh Andy? lol). Im sceptical that global warming is down to our carbon emissions!...We'll get moderated soon for going off topic!
Many people don't buy into the left wing crazy lies! It is a huge con but many fall for it because clever lies are being used that covers the facts! If all burning of fosil fuels stopped it would still be the same! Yes global warming is real just like the many thousands of times it has happend in the past! We live on a Active living planet with solar and deep space activity that affects our planet and will continue to do say with humans here or not.
What a ridiculous thing to say. Governments all over the world, right and left wing, are concerned about global warming. Even our Conservative Party have (well did have before the recession) rigorous plans to counter the problem here. I don't see what Politics has to do with it.

And the global warming that's going on now isn't natural. Optimists predict that the Arctic Ocean will be completely ice-free by the summer of 2040. 40 years isn't even a blink of an eye in ecological terms; natural flux is gradual, it would take at least 1000 or more years to melt completely under natural circumstances.

I agree with the politics bit but what are these natural circumstances you talk of? The climate is not predictable and affected by much more than us! and if the Governments really cared so much, then why dont businesses get taxed for wasting resources and producing uneccessary products that pollute the atmosphere?

[Scarlett.]

Dont forget cows also poison the enviorment :whistle:

[NettoSuperstar!]

I dont know why you told me that other stuff! But the CO2 levels we pump are a tiny insignificant percentage of all the CO2 that is produced. Most is natural. And there is a very persuasive argument that the sun getting hotter produces more co2 levels on earth. I'll try to find the stats from the C4 documentary.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Chewy
Dont forget cows also poison the enviorment :whistle:

Smelly buggers and rotting vegetation and the sea produces loads aswell. Cant remember exactly how but most of it comes from the sea!

[NettoSuperstar!]

I know we dont live naturally and YES most of the CO2 produced is from natural sources

[NettoSuperstar!]

"For some people, the final nail in the coffin of human-produced greenhouse gas theories is the fact that carbon dioxide is produced in far larger quantities by many natural means: human emissions are miniscule in comparison. Volcanic emissions and carbon dioxide from animals, bacteria, decaying vegetation and the ocean outweigh our own production several times"

http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/arguments_4.html

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Ellis
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I know we dont live naturally and YES most of the CO2 produced is from natural sources
Becuase of us the climate is warming faster than it ever would naturally.

"New evidence shows that as the radiation coming from the sun varies (and sun-spot activity is one way of monitoring this) the earth seems to heat up or cool down. Solar activity very precisely matches the plot of temperature change over the last 100 years. It correlates well with the anomalous post-war temperature dip, when global carbon dioxide levels were rising"

http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/arguments_5.html

[NettoSuperstar!]

"In more recent history there has been: a mini ice age in the seventeenth century when the Thames froze so solidly that fairs could regularly be held on the ice; a Medieval Warm Period, even balmier than today; and sunnier still was the so-called Holocene Maximum, which was the warmest period in the last 10,000 years"

http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/arguments.html

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Ellis
Volcanic erruptions are hardly at an all time high at the moment and the other things you listed have always happened. The climate has never heated up this fast before under these natrual processes.

That doesnt make it our doing

[Fom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Chewy
Dont forget cows also poison the enviorment :whistle:

Smelly buggers and rotting vegetation and the sea produces loads aswell. Cant remember exactly how but most of it comes from the sea!

Plants and animals from the sea create carbon which gets released from the ocean into the atmosphere. As I said... it's not our doing, but it wouldn't be happening so fast if we hadn't messed the planet so much. This would of happened no matter what, but not to this extent and not this fast, that is the part where humans have messed things up. Its a bit of both.

[NettoSuperstar!]

"The ice-core data is frequently cited as principal evidence to argue that CO2 is the earth’s main climate driver. It is, in a way, the jewel in the crown of the theory of man made global warming. But the ice-core data does not show that CO2 drives climate. It shows, very clearly, that variations in temperature precede rises in atmospheric CO2 – not the other way round. The two phenomena are divided by a time lag of several hundred years.

There is no evidence that CO2 has ever ‘driven’ the climate in the past, nor is there any compelling evidence that it is doing so now."


http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.co.uk/co2_temperature.html

[NettoSuperstar!]

I agree we're wasteful we've messed up the environment, we pollute it...I dont agree that there is enough evidence that we are the cause of the climate change occuring now or that there is anything we can do to stop it. Not that that should stop us from caring about the environment, but the real people doing harm should be targeted, which isnt happening!

[Sticks]

I think this thread should be locked as it has been hijacked from talking about the recession to talking about global warming.

At least could these of topic posts be put into another thread please

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Ellis
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I agree we're wasteful we've messed up the environment, we pollute it...I dont agree that there is enough evidence that we are the cause of the climate change occuring now or that there is anything we can do to stop it.
You're in a minority then. Good luck! :thumbs:

Makes no odds to me. I believe in the truth and asking questions not just accepting what Im told

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Sticks
I think this thread should be locked as it has been hijacked from talking about the recession to talking about global warming.

At least could these of topic posts be put into another thread please

Tried to move it to the right thread Sticks but noone bothered followin lol

[Fom]

Wether you believe it or not you should be cutting carbon emissions. Because if you don't then the ozone layer will collapse eventually and you will eventually die from radiation from the sun. :laugh:
Thats talking about thousands of years of pollution though... so maybe not you but your children could be effected.

[Ellis]

Originally posted by Fom
Wether you believe it or not you should be cutting carbon emissions. Because if you don't then the ozone layer will collapse eventually and you will eventually die from radiation from the sun. :laugh:
Thats talking about thousands of years of pollution though... so maybe not you but your children could be effected.
Acutally CO2 doesn't affect the ozone layer but that's for another day. :wink:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Ellis
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Ellis
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
I agree we're wasteful we've messed up the environment, we pollute it...I dont agree that there is enough evidence that we are the cause of the climate change occuring now or that there is anything we can do to stop it.
You're in a minority then. Good luck! :thumbs:

Makes no odds to me. I believe in the truth and asking questions not just accepting what Im told
Yeah yeah, good on you. I've questioned it plenty of times, but I don't think the majority of the world's scientists would be lying. They know more that we do.

Not lying. Blind to any evidence contadicting it maybe! And there are plenty of scientists that question it but their voices rarely get heard and theyre dismissed, yet have good arguments that arent challenged. Funny that!

http://www.ycsg.yale.edu/climate/forms/LindzenYaleMtg.pdf

"Argument based on consensus is not usual in science, for reasons
that have been summarised by writer Michael Crichton:
Let’s be clear: the work of science has nothing
whatever to do with consensus. Consensus is the
business of politics. Science, on the contrary,
requires only one investigator who happens to be
right, which means that he or she has results that
are verifiable by reference to the real world. In
science consensus is irrelevant. What is relevant
is reproducible results. The greatest scientists in
history are great precisely because they broke
with the consensus …"

http://www.greatglobalwarmingswindle.co.uk/pdf/2007%2005-03%20AusIMM%20corrected.pdf

"21. In the age of information, popular knowledge of scientific issues—particularly issues of health and the environment—is awash in a tide of misinformation, much of it presented in the "big talk" of professional scientists. Alarmist activists operating in well-funded advocacy groups have a lead role in creating this misinformation. In many cases, they manipulate public perceptions with emotive and fiercely judgmental "scientific" pronouncements, adding a tone of danger and urgency to attract media coverage. Their skill in promoting notions of scientific "fact" sidesteps the complexities of the issues involved, and is a potent influence in education, public opinion and the political process. These notions are often re-enforced by attention to peer-reviewed scientific articles that appear to support their pronouncements, regardless of whether these articles are widely endorsed by the relevant scientific community. Scientists who challenge these alarmists are rarely given priority by the media, and are often presented as "skeptics". "

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200506/ldselect/ldeconaf/12/12we21.htm

[Stu]

Originally posted by Chewy
Dont forget cows also poison the enviorment :whistle:
Yeah but Magic Mushrooms grow on cow ****. Fair trade.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Fom
Wether you believe it or not you should be cutting carbon emissions. Because if you don't then the ozone layer will collapse eventually and you will eventually die from radiation from the sun. :laugh:
Thats talking about thousands of years of pollution though... so maybe not you but your children could be effected.

Yeh I agree we should be cutting pollution. Cos its bad for us health and all the little animals and birds and wot not though not because of climate change!

[Captain.Remy]

The thing is, there are economic cycles and when there's a recession, it's always followed by a dynamic area. I mean Kondratieff showed that every 50 years, a new cycle begins so we can ask if this is the end of the one who started in 1945.

I think the recession is good for the reason I said above but also because it makes people think about the problem, it can't get any worse: look at Obama, Sarkozy, Merkel and co. They finally understood it's time to react.

But the recession is also bad of course: Unemployment, more poor people etc...
According to different economists, the first semester of 2009 will be terrible because so far, it has only affected the financial field...but now, it's time for costumers to suffer and it won't be pretty.

It should go back to normal at the end of 2009-beginning 2010 but who knows.

(I can talk about it for hours, Business is my thing lol)

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Fom

Plants and animals from the sea create carbon which gets released from the ocean into the atmosphere. As I said... it's not our doing, but it wouldn't be happening so fast if we hadn't messed the planet so much. This would of happened no matter what, but not to this extent and not this fast, that is the part where humans have messed things up. Its a bit of both.

I agree with what you said: people tend to think it's all our fault, but like in economy, Earth has cycles and this one is a hot one. We can't do anything about it and people forget that. We can do everything against it, Earth's fate will still be the same.

I may offend people there but I don't buy the recycling crap, to me people are paid to do this and I can't see what's going to change.

[Sting]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
i'm not sure but i do think we are not in the worst part of it yet i'm not affected at the moment cos thankfully food prices have started coming down Where do you shop then? Cos everywhere we shop the food prices have gone up :bawling:

[letmein]

We're not in a recession, we're at the beginnings of a global depression. It will be for a decade. So, accept it and move forward.

[Tom]

Originally posted by 30stone
Pretty much... New look is now losing jobs and marks and spencer...

though Im not feeling it coz i dont have a job... and dont pay for anything (=

Those M&S stores are under performing and have been for a bit. The credit crunch was just the final straw, although there are plans to open more

But even the stores that were "failing" still made a silly amount of profit anyway

The media are over exaggerating it. Yes its bad, but its not that bad. They're just trying to cause a moral panic

"Economy in meltdown" will sell more papers than "the pound is decreasing"

[Sod_James]

I dont think it is. We just announced out figures for Christmas and apparently it has been the most successful christmas, financially speaking, since the company started. So for me i guess my job is safe for now.

[arista]

Originally posted by Chewy
So, we know the news always try and scare us (especially with all that global warming carp)

Is the recession as bad as they are making out?





Yes it is.

And it is Worse.


New Labour are to slow to act.




We are in a Depression
now
due to Brown sellling all our Gold
and Burning Tax payers Cash.


Ch4 had a great docu
which is now on a DVD
"Niall Ferguson presents
The Ascent Of Money"



He explains it in a perfect way.
Good on Ch4.

[bananarama]

Originally posted by Sting
Originally posted by pinkmichk
i'm not sure but i do think we are not in the worst part of it yet i'm not affected at the moment cos thankfully food prices have started coming down Where do you shop then? Cos everywhere we shop the food prices have gone up :bawling:

I agree this food prices coming down scam is just that......Shopped yesterday and two items I regularly buy have gone up by 26% one item and 37% another item.....between December and January. Prices that come down are either low quality rubbish they can't sell or items you only purchase occasionally......

[letmein]

Iceland's government has just fallen. There goes another one.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : letmein
Iceland's government has just fallen. There goes another one.

Actually it's the first one who has fallen due to the crisis.
It was obvious Iceland couldn't resist because its economy is based on financial services. Thanks to that, Icelandic people even had the highest level of life in 2007...which is not going to happen anytime soon.

I think we can try to make a guess for the next one to fall. :laugh: (I am being sarcastic)

[Scarlett.]

10 months later, what is the opinion on this now?

I kinda realise now that it could have been as bad as they made out back then in some ways, but not in the way they say it (if you get me LOL)

[Tom]

No, still not thinking its that bad. They also dump the long term unemployed figures with those who have lost their jobs to make it seem worse than it is

[Scarlett.]

I agree that they seem to use unemployment figures a lot these days, they have almost convinved me that no jobs exist xD

[WOMBAI]

Everything I have seen on the television recently has been saying that we are over the worst and in the recovery period.

I think unemployment at the moment is worst for young men - they seem to be the most affected.

But as far as I am aware - things are looking up! I certainly hope so!

[Patrick]

So, we know the news always try and scare us (especially with all that global warming carp)



Global Warming is a Serious Issue,
One day we`ll all see this unless we dont do somthing about it now!

Im pleased to hear though, the Ozone Layer is now returning :)

But the OP should be..

"
So, we know the news always try and scare us (especially with all that Swine Flu crap)"

[Nurse57]

We are not out of the woods yet. Where the private sector has been the public sector will follow. (post, bin men, and the like) In the last year I have lost my business, house and sanity. So for me it has been bad, and I bellive things will get worse before things get better.

[Scarlett.]

So, with all this finacial crisis crap in the news these days, is it really as bad as they make out? I've heard sources saying the UK is making a fine recovery, and the only time it dips majoryly is when there is bad news coverage.

Also, looking back at this thread, I do know believe global warming is real lmao, though I do hold the opinion that the news are scaremongers in general