This may sound so mean, but do you really believe Jade Goody?

[officialleafan]

Sorry, this isn't a nasty thread or anything, i'm just sharing my opinion, and me personally, i can't help but think that this could be a stunt from Jade. Mean, i know, but it's what i think. It's too weird. Here's why

-What a coincidence that when she enters the Indian Big Brother, a DAY later she has cancer. Keep in mind that a year before all that trouble started with her being named a Racist etc.

-Usually, when the cancer is so far spread as hers is, you can see a massive change in the person's face. Three of my aunties have had cancer, and they all died. When i saw them after they were told they'd only have so long to live, they looked very ill. Jade just looks like she's lost her hair. She's not lost weight, she's not looking unwell or nothing.

I understand that it could also be true, and if it is, then i really am sorry for Jade. But for me, i really have to look at most the facts, and they say that it's not true. I'm sure i must not be the only one thinking this.

Do you think she's got cancer? Or is making it up?

[Twilight]

she has cancer how could you think she's making it up

[ange7]

yeah I know what you mean but it can't be fake....doctors have been interviewed by the press... she seen going in for chemo etc ... how could she fake all that? I mean I hated her guts when she was on TV but it'd be in pretty bad taste if I laid the boot in now... hehe

[Matt08]

I think it's ridiculous to even suggest she might be faking her cancer battle. She's in hospital and why the hell would they let her be there if she wasn't ill?

I can't believe some of the things that have been said about her on this forum regarding her cancer, it's utterly appalling and thoughtless.

[ange7]

Originally posted by Matt08
I think it's ridiculous to even suggest she might be faking her cancer battle. She's in hospital and why the hell would they let her be there if she wasn't ill?

I can't believe some of the things that have been said about her on this forum regarding her cancer, it's utterly appalling and thoughtless.
Hey...I noticed the "RIP Angie" under your avatar. Did you go to her funeral?

[Matt08]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Matt08
I think it's ridiculous to even suggest she might be faking her cancer battle. She's in hospital and why the hell would they let her be there if she wasn't ill?

I can't believe some of the things that have been said about her on this forum regarding her cancer, it's utterly appalling and thoughtless.
Hey...I noticed the "RIP Angie" under your avatar. Did you go to her funeral?

No I didn't.

[ange7]

Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Matt08
I think it's ridiculous to even suggest she might be faking her cancer battle. She's in hospital and why the hell would they let her be there if she wasn't ill?

I can't believe some of the things that have been said about her on this forum regarding her cancer, it's utterly appalling and thoughtless.
Hey...I noticed the "RIP Angie" under your avatar. Did you go to her funeral?

No I didn't.
oh sorry ... I just assumed you were close in someway to her.

[Spike]

At first and upon till recently I have thought and hoped it was fake to win her popularity back and be the celebrity she once was
However now I do believe it is the truth and she will die because its gone too far to be a lie now and it is the exact same events which my aunt went through a few years back so it is believable
I hope the whole story is a lie but I highly doubt it is

[officialleafan]

Originally posted by Matt08
I think it's ridiculous to even suggest she might be faking her cancer battle. She's in hospital and why the hell would they let her be there if she wasn't ill?

I can't believe some of the things that have been said about her on this forum regarding her cancer, it's utterly appalling and thoughtless.

And you're really suprised? Despite the fact that Jade has cancer it doesn't change the fact that she's always been desperate for fame and attention. And now this seemed a little coincidential.

And i'm not the only one thinking this, most of the UK will be thinking exactly the same, it's just they don't have the courage to stand up and say it.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Matt08
I think it's ridiculous to even suggest she might be faking her cancer battle. She's in hospital and why the hell would they let her be there if she wasn't ill?

I can't believe some of the things that have been said about her on this forum regarding her cancer, it's utterly appalling and thoughtless.
Hey...I noticed the "RIP Angie" under your avatar. Did you go to her funeral?

No I didn't.
oh sorry ... I just assumed you were close in someway to her.

I've spoken to her via U2U on here, I didn't really know her personally but she was a very friendly and kind woman. Had the memorial service been closer to where I live then i'd have probably attended.

[Matt]

I have absolutely no reason to doubt Jade. Sure, the Bigg Boss thing is slightly suspicious, but I don't see why she would fake having cancer - after all, if she was, it would inevitably have consequences.


Originally posted by officialleafan

And i'm not the only one thinking this, most of the UK will be thinking exactly the same, it's just they don't have the courage to stand up and say it.

I completely disagree. There may be a large number of people that are concerned/angry that she is exploiting the situation to make money, but I'm sure that most of the UK believes she has cancer.

[Magic]

I think is a horrid thing to question, but I get your point.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by officialleafan
Originally posted by Matt08
I think it's ridiculous to even suggest she might be faking her cancer battle. She's in hospital and why the hell would they let her be there if she wasn't ill?

I can't believe some of the things that have been said about her on this forum regarding her cancer, it's utterly appalling and thoughtless.

And you're really suprised? Despite the fact that Jade has cancer it doesn't change the fact that she's always been desperate for fame and attention. And now this seemed a little coincidential.

And i'm not the only one thinking this, most of the UK will be thinking exactly the same, it's just they don't have the courage to stand up and say it.

Do you really think she'd stoop that low that she had to lie about having cancer? The attention that she's milked in the past hardly weighs up with this.

Regardless of any mistakes she's made in the past, I expect most of the country will still be upset to hear that she is dying. It's just a shame that some people have to be so heartless and horrible that they speculate that she is lying about the whole thing.

[ange7]

Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Matt08
I think it's ridiculous to even suggest she might be faking her cancer battle. She's in hospital and why the hell would they let her be there if she wasn't ill?

I can't believe some of the things that have been said about her on this forum regarding her cancer, it's utterly appalling and thoughtless.
Hey...I noticed the "RIP Angie" under your avatar. Did you go to her funeral?

No I didn't.
oh sorry ... I just assumed you were close in someway to her.

I've spoken to her via U2U on here, I didn't really know her personally but she was a very friendly and kind woman. Had the memorial service been closer to where I live then i'd have probably attended.
oh so you were invited but lived to far to actually attend... that's a shame. She was really well loved here on Tibb...did you here of anyone who did make it to the memorial service?

[Lewis.]

I totally think she is telling the truth but i congractulate you on having the guts to stand up and voice your opinion :spin2:

[Matt08]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Matt08
I think it's ridiculous to even suggest she might be faking her cancer battle. She's in hospital and why the hell would they let her be there if she wasn't ill?

I can't believe some of the things that have been said about her on this forum regarding her cancer, it's utterly appalling and thoughtless.
Hey...I noticed the "RIP Angie" under your avatar. Did you go to her funeral?

No I didn't.
oh sorry ... I just assumed you were close in someway to her.

I've spoken to her via U2U on here, I didn't really know her personally but she was a very friendly and kind woman. Had the memorial service been closer to where I live then i'd have probably attended.
oh so you were invited but lived to far to actually attend... that's a shame. She was really well loved here on Tibb...did you here of anyone who did make it to the memorial service?

I think a couple of people said that they wanted to go, but I haven't spoken to them yet to see if they made it.

[officialleafan]

Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by officialleafan
Originally posted by Matt08
I think it's ridiculous to even suggest she might be faking her cancer battle. She's in hospital and why the hell would they let her be there if she wasn't ill?

I can't believe some of the things that have been said about her on this forum regarding her cancer, it's utterly appalling and thoughtless.

And you're really suprised? Despite the fact that Jade has cancer it doesn't change the fact that she's always been desperate for fame and attention. And now this seemed a little coincidential.

And i'm not the only one thinking this, most of the UK will be thinking exactly the same, it's just they don't have the courage to stand up and say it.

Do you really think she'd stoop that low that she had to lie about having cancer? The attention that she's milked in the past hardly weighs up with this.

Regardless of any mistakes she's made in the past, I expect most of the country will still be upset to hear that she is dying. It's just a shame that some people have to be so heartless and horrible that they speculate that she is lying about the whole thing.

How is it heartless and horrible to speculate if she may be lying about it? If 50% of me believes that she's not telling the truth about this then it's my opinion.

As you said, "regardless of her mistakes in the past", and it's those mistakes which make me doubt her. Sorry, but thats the truth.

[ange7]

woops it's back on!! hehe

[Matt08]

Just think about what her family and friends will be experiencing at the moment, Jade has terminal cancer and then they read your comments about you speculating about whether she may be lying or not. I'm sure that would be a huge confidence boost for them!

The speculation all seems very cruel to me.

[Angel.D]

This has made me mad you have only got to look at jade her heart will kill her before the cancer.my sister lost her only son in a car crash he was 19 years old and a peace of her is dying every day not having him around she listens all the time for the key to open the front door and for her son to shout mom .and this is true to

[Lauren]

Originally posted by officialleafan
But for me, i really have to look at most the facts, and they say that it's not true

You've stated nothing that even hints of facts.

[officialleafan]

Originally posted by Matt08
Just think about what her family and friends will be experiencing at the moment, Jade has terminal cancer and then they read your comments about you speculating about whether she may be lying or not. I'm sure that would be a huge confidence boost for them!

The speculation all seems very cruel to me.

What can they expect? She's showing everything to do with the cancer on TV. They have to expect people to look into it. I'm sure many people have questioned it, not only me.

[officialleafan]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by officialleafan
But for me, i really have to look at most the facts, and they say that it's not true

You've stated nothing that even hints of facts.

Yes i have, clearly you need to re-read the post. When someone is dying with cancer, they at least look ill. Jade's not even lost any weight at all. Heatworld had a speculation forum about this, and many people have stated that she doesn't look ill at all. She just looks like she's lost her hair.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by officialleafan
Originally posted by Matt08
Just think about what her family and friends will be experiencing at the moment, Jade has terminal cancer and then they read your comments about you speculating about whether she may be lying or not. I'm sure that would be a huge confidence boost for them!

The speculation all seems very cruel to me.

What can they expect? She's showing everything to do with the cancer on TV. They have to expect people to look into it. I'm sure many people have questioned it, not only me.

I think it is good that she is showing her cancer battle on TV, it has encouraged more people to go for cancer screenings and made people more aware. She has also been praised by many cancer charities.

The money that she raises through publicising her cancer battle will go towards her children's future. I am aware that it's not just you who may have questioned it, cruel comments should just be kept to yourself.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by officialleafan
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by officialleafan
But for me, i really have to look at most the facts, and they say that it's not true

You've stated nothing that even hints of facts.

Yes i have, clearly you need to re-read the post. When someone is dying with cancer, they at least look ill. Jade's not even lost any weight at all. Heatworld had a speculation forum about this, and many people have stated that she doesn't look ill at all. She just looks like she's lost her hair.

Not everyone will look the same when they are dying from cancer, she is still young so I doubt she is showing the effects as much. How do you know she hasn't lost any weight? All the recent pictures of her have been in a wheelchair with a coat on.

[pinkmichk]

while i'm in the group of people who doesnt agree with how she has been in the media spotlight a lot since finding out i do believe she has cancer and as much as i dont like her it still breaks my heart knowing the fight she is going through and the fact those poor boys will be left without a mummy

[officialleafan]

Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by officialleafan
Originally posted by Matt08
Just think about what her family and friends will be experiencing at the moment, Jade has terminal cancer and then they read your comments about you speculating about whether she may be lying or not. I'm sure that would be a huge confidence boost for them!

The speculation all seems very cruel to me.

What can they expect? She's showing everything to do with the cancer on TV. They have to expect people to look into it. I'm sure many people have questioned it, not only me.

I think it is good that she is showing her cancer battle on TV, it has encouraged more people to go for cancer screenings and made people more aware. She has also been praised by many cancer charities.

The money that she raises through publicising her cancer battle will go towards her children's future. I am aware that it's not just you who may have questioned it, cruel comments should just be kept to yourself.

So what your saying is that if someone doesn't have the same opinion as you it's "cruel" and should not be shared?

[Matt08]

Originally posted by officialleafan
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by officialleafan
Originally posted by Matt08
Just think about what her family and friends will be experiencing at the moment, Jade has terminal cancer and then they read your comments about you speculating about whether she may be lying or not. I'm sure that would be a huge confidence boost for them!

The speculation all seems very cruel to me.

What can they expect? She's showing everything to do with the cancer on TV. They have to expect people to look into it. I'm sure many people have questioned it, not only me.

I think it is good that she is showing her cancer battle on TV, it has encouraged more people to go for cancer screenings and made people more aware. She has also been praised by many cancer charities.

The money that she raises through publicising her cancer battle will go towards her children's future. I am aware that it's not just you who may have questioned it, cruel comments should just be kept to yourself.

So what your saying is that if someone doesn't have the same opinion as you it's "cruel" and should not be shared?

What i'm saying is that cruel and heartless comments like yours shouldn't be shared. Especially on such as serious issue as cancer. If you were in the same situation as Jade then I doubt you'd want to hear that people thought you were faking the whole thing.

She's a person and has feelings.

[ange7]

Originally posted by Angel.D
This has made me mad you have only got to look at jade her heart will kill her before the cancer.my sister lost her only son in a car crash he was 19 years old and a peace of her is dying every day not having him around she listens all the time for the key to open the front door and for her son to shout mom .and this is true to
I think I might agree with this ...can someone tell me? :P

[Lauren]

Originally posted by officialleafan
Originally posted by Lauren

You've stated nothing that even hints of facts.

Yes i have, clearly you need to re-read the post. When someone is dying with cancer, they at least look ill. Jade's not even lost any weight at all. Heatworld had a speculation forum about this, and many people have stated that she doesn't look ill at all. She just looks like she's lost her hair.

Maybe YOU need to understand the definition of facts then, instead of telling me to re-read a simple post.

1) "When someone is dying with cancer, they at least look ill" - Jade might be in a lot of makeup. She's snapped everyday, she doesn't want her boys seeing pictures of her looking ill. Also, "looking ill" is subjective. I'd say she looks pretty damn ill, personally.

2) "Jade's not even lost any weight at all" - Hasn't she? Where's the 'fact' behind this one then? Perhaps you can post me her before and after stats? No. Thought not.

Your facts are simply subjective statements.

[Tom4784]

Lea's stating his opinion, although I disagree with it you lot shouldn't have reacted the way you have. It's his opinion DEAL WITH IT.

[Novo]

Yes it's not like he said it in a horrible manner
his points are there to be debated

[TheMac]

I did think she was lying at first TBH, but now I don't.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by officialleafan
Sorry, this isn't a nasty thread or anything, i'm just sharing my opinion, and me personally, i can't help but think that this could be a stunt from Jade. Mean, i know, but it's what i think. It's too weird. Here's why

-What a coincidence that when she enters the Indian Big Brother, a DAY later she has cancer. Keep in mind that a year before all that trouble started with her being named a Racist etc.

-Usually, when the cancer is so far spread as hers is, you can see a massive change in the person's face. Three of my aunties have had cancer, and they all died. When i saw them after they were told they'd only have so long to live, they looked very ill. Jade just looks like she's lost her hair. She's not lost weight, she's not looking unwell or nothing.

I understand that it could also be true, and if it is, then i really am sorry for Jade. But for me, i really have to look at most the facts, and they say that it's not true. I'm sure i must not be the only one thinking this.

Do you think she's got cancer? Or is making it up?


I thought this at the very start but now she has been told that there is NO CURING and she will die, so i very much doubt she would go that far for press attention

[bronaaaa]

No I don't think so..she'd come out looking AWFUL if she got found out.

[Tom]

Jade couldn't even organise a piss up in the brewery let alone this.

From some pictures her hair is extremely thin, it doesn't go that thin if you just cut it off

[supernoodles!]

I am actually disgusted at this thread,I take it anyone who thinks Jade has made her terminal illness up hasn`t watched her documentary!I cant even believe people would think this,official you talk about Jade being desperate for fame and money yet your a Lea fan.Arent ALL bb fans (or 99% of them) desperate for fame?Also lets not forget the media came to Jade,not the other way round.They latched on to her after bb3 and their thrieving off her now.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
I am actually disgusted at this thread,I take it anyone who thinks Jade has made her terminal illness up hasn`t watched her documentary!I cant even believe people would think this,official you talk about Jade being desperate for fame and money yet your a Lea fan.Arent ALL bb fans (or 99% of them) desperate for fame?Also lets not forget the media came to Jade,not the other way round.They latched on to her after bb3 and their thrieving off her now.

She did crave all the attention, why do you think she agreed to all of her documentaries: Jades Salon, PA etc
That's why she went back to BB

[*mazedsalv**]

Whats not to believe?? No human being would cut all their hair off and claim they had lost it for cancer, she wouldnt do that to her family, especially her children. I do believe her.

[Jen]

Originally posted by Tom
Jade couldn't even organise a p**s up in the brewery let alone this.



LOL, this thread was despressing me then Tom came along. :love:

I don't like this thread, although its fine you are expressing your opinion its just not nice to question a person who has Cancer.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by supernoodles!
I am actually disgusted at this thread,I take it anyone who thinks Jade has made her terminal illness up hasn`t watched her documentary!I cant even believe people would think this,official you talk about Jade being desperate for fame and money yet your a Lea fan.Arent ALL bb fans (or 99% of them) desperate for fame?Also lets not forget the media came to Jade,not the other way round.They latched on to her after bb3 and their thrieving off her now.

She did crave all the attention, why do you think she agreed to all of her documentaries: Jades Salon, PA etc
That's why she went back to BB


Right but it worked both ways,the media craved her just as much.And what just because she craved attention shes made up the fact that shes dying?I think its stupid that some people are even questioning it.Yes everyones aloud their opinion but Its their reasons for it are just lame,no one has any reals facts to back up their claim.

[Lewis.]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by supernoodles!
I am actually disgusted at this thread,I take it anyone who thinks Jade has made her terminal illness up hasn`t watched her documentary!I cant even believe people would think this,official you talk about Jade being desperate for fame and money yet your a Lea fan.Arent ALL bb fans (or 99% of them) desperate for fame?Also lets not forget the media came to Jade,not the other way round.They latched on to her after bb3 and their thrieving off her now.

She did crave all the attention, why do you think she agreed to all of her documentaries: Jades Salon, PA etc
That's why she went back to BB


Right but it worked both ways,the media craved her just as much.And what just because she craved attention shes made up the fact that shes dying?I think its stupid that some people are even questioning it.Yes everyones aloud their opinion but Its their reasons for it are just lame,no one has any reals facts to back up their claim.

I think what Supernoodles is trying to say is that The media were all over Jade and she just accepted because she would get some money out of it. I am being honest but wouldn't you agree to da a tv show if you knew you were getting thousands of pounds out of it? I ceraintly would! Staying in the limelight is the key to a good succesful life in showbussines and Jade realised that and played it to her advantage! Good on her i say!

[Annie]

This thread is actually disgusting. Someone as young as Jade is dying and leaving her young family alone without parents and you think she is faking it?

She is actually scared not knowing how long she has left to live. Not knowing how many days she will get to make her boys breakfast. Not knowing if she will make it to her birthday and you are saying she is doing it all for attention. I have never once said that her being in the limelight while having cancer was a good thing but I have never once doubted that its not true.

And stating that lots of people in britain is thinking the same is a joke as well. I have never heard ONE person apart from you say that she is faking having cancer. Thats actually disgusting.

[Sam!]

Of course she aint faking it.

[supernoodles!]

god help anyone doubting Jade if they ever get cancer or a member of their family.You know what its not even worth giving a response to really,seriously you must be stupid if you think Jade is lying and why are people saying good on you for saying what you think,its a sick thought.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Annie
This thread is actually disgusting. Someone as young as Jade is dying and leaving her young family alone without parents and you think she is faking it?

She is actually scared not knowing how long she has left to live. Not knowing how many days she will get to make her boys breakfast. Not knowing if she will make it to her birthday and you are saying she is doing it all for attention. I have never once said that her being in the limelight while having cancer was a good thing but I have never once doubted that its not true.

And stating that lots of people in britain is thinking the same is a joke as well. I have never heard ONE person apart from you say that she is faking having cancer. Thats actually disgusting.


yes,please do not tar the rest of Britain with the same brush thanks.

[Mrluvaluva]

It would take a lot of sick people to make up and maintain a story like this and I don't think any number of people are that depraved.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Dezzy
Lea's stating his opinion, although I disagree with it you lot shouldn't have reacted the way you have. It's his opinion DEAL WITH IT.

We're allowed to counteract peoples opinions with our own. That's all I've seen people doing.

What does "DEAL WITH IT" mean?

[Annie]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Dezzy
Lea's stating his opinion, although I disagree with it you lot shouldn't have reacted the way you have. It's his opinion DEAL WITH IT.

We're allowed to counteract peoples opinions with our own. That's all I've seen people doing.

What does "DEAL WITH IT" mean?

Exactly. This is a forum. We discuss opinions within each other. It wasnt that when Spike said he could rape/murder someone. It was alright to act that way then? No?

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Dezzy
Lea's stating his opinion, although I disagree with it you lot shouldn't have reacted the way you have. It's his opinion DEAL WITH IT.

We're allowed to counteract peoples opinions with our own. That's all I've seen people doing.

What does "DEAL WITH IT" mean?

I'm not arguing with that, it's just the replies like 'you're disgusting for saying that!' 'you should shut up with opinions like that' ETC.

Debate away, I like debate just don't deride him is all i'm saying.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Dezzy

I'm not arguing with that, it's just the replies like 'you're disgusting for saying that!' 'you should shut up with opinions like that' ETC.

Debate away, I like debate just don't deride him is all i'm saying.

Fair enough, I agree people shouldn't be insulting him.

But I feel given the sensitive nature it's expected some people are passionate at countering the OP.

[Wildcat!]

I am actually laughing at all the self righteous comments on here. Fair enough if you dont agree with what the OP says. I dont think anybody here is such a symbol of virtue that they should sit there and judgge how disgusting one's opinion is. Sorry but people have opinions about Jade. More than half the people thought Jade was lying about the whole thing. I am sure a bunch of you self righteous ones still have their doubts, but are too coward to actually express it here. Just like your other best wishes thread, where a bunch stated that if you dont have anything good to say or dont agree, take your opinions elsewhere. If youre so disgusted by this thread, take your opinion elsewhere as well, if you cant take it.

So many hypocrites here to be honest. And as for Jade's family, I dont think they give a rats asss what some people's opinions are on a forum.

I am pretty sure she has cancer, but I am not gonna insult someone who doubts it. Jade's person warrants those doubts, because of who she is. She didnt just become a saint because she has cancer. You dont know how much of whatever said is true, because she is, and has always been a media *****. I didnt want to say anything but some of your post are just self righteous and full of shiit for most of you guys out here.

I still think that her whole appearance in the Indian BB, was a stunt. SHe probably didnt already know she was terminal, but I have a feeling she knew about the disease, and had it announced on the show, for dramatic effect. SHe appeared on that show out of the blue, when all the race row thing was pretty much forgotten. There was no real reason for her to go on it. DO you think I am disgusting now? Well if you do, frankly, I dont give a damn! None of you lot is exactly a symbol of integrity and values, so get off your high horse.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
so get off your high horse.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00484/White-horse_484619a.jpg

But it's so pretty :sad:

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Dezzy
Lea's stating his opinion, although I disagree with it you lot shouldn't have reacted the way you have. It's his opinion DEAL WITH IT.

We're allowed to counteract peoples opinions with our own. That's all I've seen people doing.

What does "DEAL WITH IT" mean?

ermm couteracting opinions, doesnt mean saying I am disgusted, youre an idiot, youre a horrible person etc, etc.....
Those are actually the disgusting posts that I have seen on this thread. Talk about double standards.

[Annie]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
so get off your high horse.

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00484/White-horse_484619a.jpg

But it's so pretty :sad:


:joker::joker::joker:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

ermm couteracting opinions, doesnt mean saying I am disgusted, youre an idiot, youre a horrible person etc, etc.....
Those are actually the disgusting posts that I have seen on this thread. Talk about double standards.

I didn't say those things?

Edit: Also, lol Annie, glad someone appreciated my humour. :laugh:

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

ermm couteracting opinions, doesnt mean saying I am disgusted, youre an idiot, youre a horrible person etc, etc.....
Those are actually the disgusting posts that I have seen on this thread. Talk about double standards.

I didn't say those things?

Edit: Also, lol Annie, glad someone appreciated my humour. :laugh:

YOu said couteracting the OP's opinions is all youve seen people do on this thread. Well thats not true, people have called the OP all the names in the book. SO its NOT all that's on this thread.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

YOu said couteracting the OP's opinions is all youve seen people do on this thread. Well thats not true, people have called the OP all the names in the book. SO its NOT all that's on this thread.

I also said people shouldn't be insulting the OP also. I don't have double standards.

I'll tell you what is double standards though - using Annie's example....
No-one leapt to Spike's defense when people called him disgusting and sick for a post a few months back, but surely all he posted was his opinion? I'm not referring to you, AMA, by the way - I mean in general. It just so happens that this post is seen as "courageous" (since when has posting your opinion been brave?) and so other people will support it for that matter, whereas Spike was demonised for his.

[Wildcat!]

Yeah I remember that. And a lot of those people still take jabs at him for it. I wasnt on that day, I just heard about it. YOu better believe it, if I was, I would be having the exact same reaction. And if I was to state what I think is disgusting on this forum, a lot of people would get it. And but I let them get on with it, either, I would respond saying what my opinion is of the situation, or I would normally just ignore it if it really pisses me off. This thread have pissed me off, and its not the OP's opinion that has, but the way the people on here love to gang up on someone, when they think they have the moral high ground on the subject. And funnily enough, I am betting a lot of them are joining in on the bashing, just to appear like moraly good people on this forum. Like anyone gives a shiit to be honest!


And the only reason I quoted your post Lauren, is because you stated that all people are doing is replying to the OP! Well they are not just replying, they are attacking him.

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

YOu said couteracting the OP's opinions is all youve seen people do on this thread. Well thats not true, people have called the OP all the names in the book. SO its NOT all that's on this thread.

I also said people shouldn't be insulting the OP also. I don't have double standards.

I'll tell you what is double standards though - using Annie's example....
No-one leapt to Spike's defense when people called him disgusting and sick for a post a few months back, but surely all he posted was his opinion? I'm not referring to you, AMA, by the way - I mean in general. It just so happens that this post is seen as "courageous" (since when has posting your opinion been brave?) and so other people will support it for that matter, whereas Spike was demonised for his.

I'm not arguing but there's a difference between

'Do you think Jade Goody is faking cancer?'

and

'I'd rape and kill if needs be'

[inspector-frost]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I am actually laughing at all the self righteous comments on here. Fair enough if you dont agree with what the OP says. I dont think anybody here is such a symbol of virtue that they should sit there and judgge how disgusting one's opinion is. Sorry but people have opinions about Jade. More than half the people thought Jade was lying about the whole thing. I am sure a bunch of you self righteous ones still have their doubts, but are too coward to actually express it here. Just like your other best wishes thread, where a bunch stated that if you dont have anything good to say or dont agree, take your opinions elsewhere. If youre so disgusted by this thread, take your opinion elsewhere as well, if you cant take it.

So many hypocrites here to be honest. And as for Jade's family, I dont think they give a rats asss what some people's opinions are on a forum.

I am pretty sure she has cancer, but I am not going to insult someone who doubts it. Jade's person warrants those doubts, because of who she is. She didnt just become a saint because she has cancer. You dont know how much of whatever said is true, because she is, and has always been a media *****. I didnt want to say anything but some of your post are just self righteous and full of shiit for most of you guys out here.

I still think that her whole appearance in the Indian BB, was a stunt. SHe probably didnt already know she was terminal, but I have a feeling she knew about the disease, and had it announced on the show, for dramatic effect. SHe appeared on that show out of the blue, when all the race row thing was pretty much forgotten. There was no real reason for her to go on it. DO you think I am disgusting now? Well if you do, frankly, I dont give a damn! None of you lot is exactly a symbol of integrity and values, so get off your high horse.
well said,this is a forum for discussion and to have a discussion people put forward their views and opinions.
it is an awful thing to be going through but how much truth is out there about it all-who knows.people have to go through things like this on their own in the privavcy of their own home each and every day.i know for a fact that if i only had months left to live i would spend every precious minute left in privacy with my family especially my kids!!!

[Annie]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

[supernoodles!]

unfortunatly I think any people doubting Jade will be eating their words in the near future,I hope they feel bad,but they probably wont.

[Annie]

I remember the last time people on this forum doubted that someone was dying of cancer and they soon ate their words.

[Wildcat!]

Even so! SO what? It doesnt give any of you the right to insult people for having an opinion, and not having attacked any of you guys. I actually like some of you lot, but this is not a communist forum, where people have to follow your personal idea of morality. Why would they eat their word or feel bad for it anyways? I wouldnt. I mean my thoughts goes out to her family, like any family going through cancer, which my family has. BUt if someone wants to doubt they perfectly have the right to.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Dezzy

I'm not arguing but there's a difference between

'Do you think Jade Goody is faking cancer?'

and

'I'd rape and kill if needs be'

The fact is they're both opinions, which we're entitled to have. I didn't state they were the same thing and you know I didn't.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Even so! SO what? It doesnt give any of you the right to insult people for having an opinion, and not having attacked any of you guys. I actually like some of you lot, but this is not a communist forum, where people have to follow your personal idea of morality. Why would they eat their word or feel bad for it anyways? I wouldnt. I mean my thoughts goes out to her family, like any family going through cancer, which my family has. BUt if someone wants to doubt they perfectly have the right to.

well surely if their aloud to have their opinion we can have ours and call their opinion disgusting etc if we like.

[Wildcat!]

I dont think so. Thats just a disguise insult to the OP, and to me its out of order. Plus I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that reason either.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Sure you do, but I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that!

It's not a debate on what is your favourite animal or something. A woman has terminal cancer and I don't think it is right for people to go around doubting that.

Why on earth would someone fake cancer? Especially someone like Jade Goody who needs to keep a good reputation as it is her source of income. If this wasn't a celebrity then i'm sure your response would be very different to our comments.

[Annie]

But it is sick.

Imagine if your mum was dying of cancer and I wrote about you behind your back saying that your mum was faking it and only doing it for money and attention. How would your friends and family feel? Or anyone who cared about your mum!?

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Sure you do, but I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that!

It's not a debate on what is your favourite animal or something. A woman has terminal cancer and I don't think it is right for people to go around doubting that.

Why on earth would someone fake cancer? Especially someone like Jade Goody who needs to keep a good reputation as it is her source of income. If this wasn't a celebrity then i'm sure your response would be very different to our comments.

Who are you to tell people what they should or shouldnt doubt?
And especially someone like JAde Goody? WHen has she ever have a good reputation to worry about? Are you ****iing kidding me with these points?
And it is a debate, weather you like the subject or not, that is what it is, thats why the OP opened the thread. You cant decide, or tell people what they should or shouldnt debate. You can make the choice to not, but please refrain from trying to censor people based on morality! I consider that the most cowardly ways.

[Annie]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Sure you do, but I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that!

It's not a debate on what is your favourite animal or something. A woman has terminal cancer and I don't think it is right for people to go around doubting that.

Why on earth would someone fake cancer? Especially someone like Jade Goody who needs to keep a good reputation as it is her source of income. If this wasn't a celebrity then i'm sure your response would be very different to our comments.

Who are you to tell people what they should or shouldnt doubt?
And especially someone like JAde Goody? WHen has she ever have a good reputation to worry about? Are you ****iing kidding me with these points?
And it is a debate, weather you like the subject or not, that is what it is, thats why the OP opened the thread. You cant decide, or tell people what they should or shouldnt debate. You can make the choice to not, but please refrain from trying to censor people based on morality! I consider that the most cowardly ways.

:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Annie
But it is sick.

Imagine if your mum was dying of cancer and I wrote about you behind your back saying that your mum was faking it and only doing it for money and attention. How would your friends and family feel? Or anyone who cared about your mum!?

Ermm first of all if that happened, I wouldnt give a **** what other people think or say about it. Secondly, if your mom had cancer, and exploited every opportunity to make money from the media, even posing for photos outside the hospital, then weather she was faking or not, I would think its perfectly understandable for people to have their say and speculate weather its fake or not. This wouldnt be the case, if she was like every other cancer patient in the world as far as I know. Nobody deserves what she is going through, but the speculations are warranted by her actions.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Sure you do, but I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that!

It's not a debate on what is your favourite animal or something. A woman has terminal cancer and I don't think it is right for people to go around doubting that.

Why on earth would someone fake cancer? Especially someone like Jade Goody who needs to keep a good reputation as it is her source of income. If this wasn't a celebrity then i'm sure your response would be very different to our comments.

Who are you to tell people what they should or shouldnt doubt?
And especially someone like JAde Goody? WHen has she ever have a good reputation to worry about? Are you ****iing kidding me with these points?
And it is a debate, weather you like the subject or not, that is what it is, thats why the OP opened the thread. You cant decide, or tell people what they should or shouldnt debate. You can make the choice to not, but please refrain from trying to censor people based on morality! I consider that the most cowardly ways.

Who are you to tell me what I can and can't say to someone? I've voiced my opinion on what I think of their views, my opinion is that they are cruel and sick.

[Lewis.]

I respect that OfficialLeafan Has an opinion like the rest of us, but i do believe that Jade would not do anything like this. No-body with any sense of Shame, would do anything like that, especially when her illness has been broadcast in such a high profile way? She is a clever girl and knows that if she was lying and it was revealed, she would be absolutely Hated forever by everyone. My thoughts are now with her and her family, who must be going through so much heartache! My wish is that she spends the rest of her life doing things she wants to do with her children and i wish her all the best for the future

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I dont think so. Thats just a disguise insult to the OP, and to me its out of order. Plus I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that reason either.


lol a disguise to insult the OP,firstly I dont see calling his opinion disgusting and secondly why would I use a disguise to insult him?I`m saying it because its a nasty thing to even think.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Annie
But it is sick.

Imagine if your mum was dying of cancer and I wrote about you behind your back saying that your mum was faking it and only doing it for money and attention. How would your friends and family feel? Or anyone who cared about your mum!?

Ermm first of all if that happened, I wouldnt give a **** what other people think or say about it. Secondly, if your mom had cancer, and exploited every opportunity to make money from the media, even posing for photos outside the hospital, then weather she was faking or not, I would think its perfectly understandable for people to have their say and speculate weather its fake or not. This wouldnt be the case, if she was like every other cancer patient in the world as far as I know. Nobody deserves what she is going through, but the speculations are warranted by her actions.

When has she ever used something that serious to milk attention from the media? I think if your Mum was going through the same thing then you would care what people thought, but you wouldn't know that until it happened to you.

[Wildcat!]

YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.

You can go and **** off if you don't like what we're saying.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
I dont think so. Thats just a disguise insult to the OP, and to me its out of order. Plus I dont think you should be calling people sick and stupid, for that reason either.


lol a disguise to insult the OP,firstly I dont see calling his opinion disgusting and secondly why would I use a disguise to insult him?I`m saying it because its a nasty thing to even think.

Its is not a nasty thing to think imo, because she warranted those thoughts! I ersonally dont see how its possible, bt for people who do think that, I know where they are coming from.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.


noones said they CANT say it I`m simply saying I think its a disgusting thing to say,and I can say that because its my opinion and if they don`t like the debate then they can go elsewhere.Its a forum.

[Novo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrRPA25UBGg

lets lighten the mood

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.

You can go and **** off if you don't like what we're saying.


See you are one of those people claiming to take the moral high ground. This was exactly my point. Lady's and gentleman, here is your moral high ground.
I knew most of these people just are saying it for the sake of being liked. Well you just fell off that high ground there with such an eloquent insult!

[Lewis.]

Originally posted by .Andy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrRPA25UBGg

lets lighten the mood

:lovedup:

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.

You can go and **** off if you don't like what we're saying.


See you are one of those people claiming to take the moral high ground. This was exactly my point. Lady's and gentleman, here is your moral high ground.
I knew most of these people just are saying it for the sake of being liked. Well you just fell off that high ground there with such an eloquent insult!

I'm not saying it for the sake of being liked, i'm saying it because I feel very strongly about Jade's cancer battle. It's very cruel to suggest that someone is lying about cancer, and people seem to think they can say what they like about celebrities.

This would be a whole different issue of someone was doubting a non-celebrity.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.


noones said they CANT say it I`m simply saying I think its a disgusting thing to say,and I can say that because its my opinion and if they don`t like the debate then they can go elsewhere.Its a forum.

Actually youre the one who dont seem to like the debate. The OP obviously dont mind, since they opened it. BUt you are I quote disgusted by it, and you dont think its even worth giving a reply to. SO to me if anybody should leave the debate, its you! Not that you have to. I think its fine and dandy to have a debate, as long as you respect people and dont call them names.

[Lewis.]

Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.

You can go and **** off if you don't like what we're saying.


See you are one of those people claiming to take the moral high ground. This was exactly my point. Lady's and gentleman, here is your moral high ground.
I knew most of these people just are saying it for the sake of being liked. Well you just fell off that high ground there with such an eloquent insult!

I'm not saying it for the sake of being liked, i'm saying it because I feel very strongly about Jade's cancer battle. It's very cruel to suggest that someone is lying about cancer, and people seem to think they can say what they like about celebrities.

This would be a whole different issue of someone was doubting a non-celebrity.

I do agree with the fact that people do say anything they want about celebrities! [/random comment over]

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.

You can go and **** off if you don't like what we're saying.


See you are one of those people claiming to take the moral high ground. This was exactly my point. Lady's and gentleman, here is your moral high ground.
I knew most of these people just are saying it for the sake of being liked. Well you just fell off that high ground there with such an eloquent insult!

I'm not saying it for the sake of being liked, i'm saying it because I feel very strongly about Jade's cancer battle. It's very cruel to suggest that someone is lying about cancer, and people seem to think they can say what they like about celebrities.

This would be a whole different issue of someone was doubting a non-celebrity.


Excuse me, did you not just tell me to **** off? I dont think there is anything else you can add to that is there?
And giving me your self righteous opinions, really isnt appropriate anymore, after youve insulted me.

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.

You can go and **** off if you don't like what we're saying.


See you are one of those people claiming to take the moral high ground. This was exactly my point. Lady's and gentleman, here is your moral high ground.
I knew most of these people just are saying it for the sake of being liked. Well you just fell off that high ground there with such an eloquent insult!

I'm not saying it for the sake of being liked, i'm saying it because I feel very strongly about Jade's cancer battle. It's very cruel to suggest that someone is lying about cancer, and people seem to think they can say what they like about celebrities.

This would be a whole different issue of someone was doubting a non-celebrity.


Excuse me, did you not just tell me to **** off? I dont think there is anything else you can add to that is there?
And giving me your self righteous opinions, really isnt appropriate anymore, after youve insulted me.

I could take some of the comments you've said to me as an insult, but it would be silly to take comments that have been said to me on an internet forum to heart.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
YOur opinion is we shoudnt doubt what Jade is saying. Thast what you stated. Well excuse me, youre not the thought police. If you dont like this debate like I said, please go elsewhere, where you wont be so disgusted. And like I said the most cowards here are the ones pretending to be some sort of a prophet telling people what they can and cant debate. Its a forum, that what people do on them.


noones said they CANT say it I`m simply saying I think its a disgusting thing to say,and I can say that because its my opinion and if they don`t like the debate then they can go elsewhere.Its a forum.

Actually youre the one who dont seem to like the debate. The OP obviously dont mind, since they opened it. BUt you are I quote disgusted by it, and you dont think its even worth giving a reply to. SO to me if anybody should leave the debate, its you! Not that you have to. I think its fine and dandy to have a debate, as long as you respect people and dont call them names.

er when have I called them a name?and its not worth giving a reply to because its obviously a load of crap that can`t even be backed up.