Parents claim kids scared of One Armed CBeebies presenter

[arista]

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1152466/One-armed-presenter-scaring-children-parents-tell-BBC.html

"Incredibly, one father said he wanted to ban his daughter from watching the channel because he feared it would give her nightmares."

"This new presenter is ******* - face facts - but because she has a disability then she was given a job. [It is] positive discrimination in my books."


Yesterday, Miss Burnell - who has a daughter,
hit back at her critics,
branding them 'small minded' and their remarks 'terrible'.


Could she cover her Arm
would that hurt her?

Knowing how the Cocky BBC works
they are loving this debate
it is all Promotion for their childrens TV.


This is going to be debated on Ch5 Wright stuff
on now.



Sign Of The Times.

[NettoSuperstar!]

What should we do? Get Labour out!:tongue:

just messing...and small minded indeed the tw@ts

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
What should we do? Get Labour out!:tongue:

just messing...and small minded indeed the tw@ts


Some even accused the BBC of hiring Miss Burnell, 29, because of 'political correctness' and solely to meet employment quotas.


Yes some can not handle one armed people.

[Red Moon]

It's good to have people with disabilities on TV. If kids ask the questions at an earlier age it is easier to explain to then about disabilities.

[arista]

Originally posted by Red Moon
It's good to have people with disabilities on TV. If kids ask the questions at an earlier age it is easier to explain to then about disabilities.



Yes many have that view.


on Ch5 Richard Bacon (who is also on twitter)
sitting in for the Wright Stuff
Debate this BBC mess, now.

(the Wright Stuff is repeated at 11AM on Channel Fiver
and 12 mid day on Fiver+1)

It is a Cbbc channel for 5 and under,
some 2 year olds can not handle it
they just said on TV.

[pinkmichk]

my daughter hasnt noticed (and if she has hasnt said anything) and speaking to a lot of friends even if their kids have noticed none are scared its more a shallow minded group of parents which is worrying if they are teaching their kids in that way i've always taught my daughter that we are not all the same and certainly not to be nasty cos of someone having a disability (my own dad is disabled after his car accident) if questions arose then you just answer them its good they are showing a wide range of people on tv so what next take off the program something special in case the kids are also scared of the children with disabilities
her disability shouldnt be a problem but her presenting skills are a completely different matter

[xDramatick]

^ Extremely well said pinkmichk, I totally agree with you.

[arista]

But the Dad of a 2 year old said it gave her Nightmares
that is not good.

[pinkmichk]

no he said he feared it might give her nightmares not it actually did which as i said is down to the parenting and the parent being very shallow minded not the child children adapt and accept things very very easily

[arista]

Many that phoned in on the Wright Stuff this morning
said their kids are to young to see that.
That is the problem.

They also said no one said why she has one arm?

This is typical of the Bloated BBC attitude.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by arista
But the Dad of a 2 year old said it gave her Nightmares
that is not good.

He said he FEARS it might, not that it has.

Also; if it has. The problem lies in his parenting skills.

The reason it would give her nightmares was if it was different, and so he obviously hasn't taught his daughter, or opened up the opportunity to her that some people are different. He should be thanking CBeebies for doing a job he should've done a long time ago.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Many that phoned in on the Wright Stuff this morning
said their kids are to young to see that.
That is the problem.

They also said no one said why she has one arm?

This is typical of the Bloated BBC attitude.

lol @ "Bloated " how does that make sense.....?
Sorry to gang up here hehe but.....
Arista would you like a return to the days when families kept their handicapped children locked in the cellar lest the sight of them might shock the neighbourhoods?......dude think it through

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
Many that phoned in on the Wright Stuff this morning
said their kids are to young to see that.
That is the problem.

They also said no one said why she has one arm?

This is typical of the Bloated BBC attitude.

lol @ "Bloated " how does that make sense.....?
Sorry to gang up here hehe but.....
Arista would you like a return to the days when families kept their handicapped children locked in the cellar lest the sight of them might shock the neighbourhoods?......dude think it through

No
we do not have to return to those Aussie type days.

Bloated BBC - yes that is what the BBC have become in the UK
who Take a Tax from the UK public.
We need a refund
they are no good anymore.

[arista]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by arista
But the Dad of a 2 year old said it gave her Nightmares
that is not good.

He said he FEARS it might, not that it has.

Also; if it has. The problem lies in his parenting skills.

The reason it would give her nightmares was if it was different, and so he obviously hasn't taught his daughter, or opened up the opportunity to her that some people are different. He should be thanking CBeebies for doing a job he should've done a long time ago.


She is only 2 years old
we need to here from the mother as well.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
Many that phoned in on the Wright Stuff this morning
said their kids are to young to see that.
That is the problem.

They also said no one said why she has one arm?

This is typical of the Bloated BBC attitude.

lol @ "Bloated " how does that make sense.....?
Sorry to gang up here hehe but.....
Arista would you like a return to the days when families kept their handicapped children locked in the cellar lest the sight of them might shock the neighbourhoods?......dude think it through

No
we do not have to return to those Aussie type days.

Bloated BBC - yes that is what the BBC have become in the UK
who Take a Tax from the UK public.
We need a refund
they are no good anymore.
aww that's cute!...
"Aussie type days"
are you trying to ruffle my feathers? hehe
Well why not write to the bbc and demand that they take off any people with disabilities that might make you vomit your chips and fish fingers all over your mum's best TV tray.
:tongue:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by arista
She is only 2 years old

Why does that matter? She's 2, and she's been faced with someone different - and her father is shielding her from it? How will she ever learn?

Edit: And quit it with your 'Aussie type days'.

[NettoSuperstar!]

lol wtf? too young to see a one armed woman!? Who are these backward numpties?

[arista]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by arista
She is only 2 years old

Why does that matter? She's 2, and she's been faced with someone different - and her father is shielding her from it? How will she ever learn?

Edit: And quit it with your 'Aussie type days'.


OK Aussie Old Type Dark Days.

Is that better Chief.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by arista


OK Aussie Old Type Dark Days.

Is that better Chief.

You're a bigot.

[arista]

I have been called Worse.

I like you Lauren.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by arista
I have been called Worse.

I like you Lauren.

OK then answer me this; why did you bring Australia into this discussion at all? It was a good debate until then, then it resorted to getting cheap shots in.

Anyway...

Do you think children should be shielded from "difference"? If so, then when is the 'right time' to introduce it to them? By shielding them from it, they're only going to be more scared when they face it.

[arista]

I think some 2 year olds
may not need that just yet.

She does not have to have it Exposed like that, as well.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Need that? Its a one armed woman not Jack the ripper ffs...the sooner people get used to people who are a bit different the better...its the parents that teach them its a thing to be feared!

[Lauren]

Originally posted by arista
I think some 2 year olds
may not need that just yet.

She does not have to have it Exposed like that, as well.

Why don't they "need it" just yet? It's not a stressing situation for a child to learn about something. They've no experience of disability and so it has nothing negative connoted to it - therefore they're not the ones scared - it's the parents with their bigoted and prejudice views that have the issue.

Children are very frank, they do not just sit and be emotionally scarred. If anything, the worst they'll do is ask "Why has she only got half an arm?" and then they can learn.

If they're only 2 year old, then half an arm shouldn't be an issue anyway. They won't notice it as an outstanding difference, if a difference at all. The only reason they'd be scared of it is if the parent has brought their attention to it in a negative manner.

Why should she hide her disability? It's part of her. She shouldn't be made to feel like it's something that NEEDS to be hidden.

[arista]

to Hide it
would not hurt her.


Yes it becomes a Negative manner
that parents are stuck with.

[Shaun]

I pretty much agree with what pinkmichk said.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
Hide it
would not hurt her.

Why hide it, it wont bloody hurt her to see her and have it explained to her properly. Hide it and your teaching her disability is something strange and to be feared...that is hurting her!...And if you mean the woman who has one arm should keep it hidden you are having a laugh?

[ange7]

lol ... am I missing something?... is Australia known for it's poor treatment of the handicapped? hehe.
Anyway... it will be a crazy world if perfectly capable people can't get a job just because a 2 year old's dad complained. Arista it was you who implied she got the job to fill some quota. So by that are you saying she does her job poorly and only got the job because of he disability? lol..."Aussie Old Type Dark Days" ... sounds like your living the dream hehe.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

Why hide it, it wont bl***y hurt her to see her and have it explained to her properly. Hide it and your teaching her disability is something strange and to be feared...that is hurting her!

I cannot say it better than this.

By hiding it, gives it a negative taboo attitude - thus kids will get scared of it and form prejudices.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Why are we even debating this? its a joke!

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Why are we even debating this? its a joke!


It is No Joke
and was debated on Radio 5 Live
and Ch5 Wright Stuff this morning.


It is a serious debate

[NettoSuperstar!]

Oh yeh Wright stuff...cutting edge lol

[Novo]

how many people have complained ?

[JOSHUAH!]

It said in The Sun that there have been '9 Official complaints'

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
lol ... am I missing something?... is Australia known for it's poor treatment of the handicapped? hehe.
Anyway... it will be a crazy world if perfectly capable people can't get a job just because a 2 year old's dad complained. Arista it was you who implied she got the job to fill some quota. So by that are you saying she does her job poorly and only got the job because of he disability? lol..."Aussie Old Type Dark Days" ... sounds like your living the dream hehe.



Yes the Quote about
her getting the Job because of her arm
was debated on Radio and TV here.

Also many have said she is not as good as the other presenters.
So it is many attacks.

To her credit
she can handle it.

I just hope the BBC National TV News does
not put this story up tonight
which could make it worse.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
lol ... am I missing something?... is Australia known for it's poor treatment of the handicapped? hehe.
Anyway... it will be a crazy world if perfectly capable people can't get a job just because a 2 year old's dad complained. Arista it was you who implied she got the job to fill some quota. So by that are you saying she does her job poorly and only got the job because of he disability? lol..."Aussie Old Type Dark Days" ... sounds like your living the dream hehe.



Yes the Quote about
her getting the Job because of her arm
was debated on Radio and TV here.

Also many have said she is not as good as the other presenters.
So it is many attacks.

To her credit
she can handle it.

I just hope the BBC National TV News does
not put this story up tonight
which could make it worse.

How do you mean worse?

[arista]

Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
It said in The Sun that there have been '9 Official complaints'

Yes that is what the BBC claims.

[JOSHUAH!]

Can I also just mention that the presenter herself has a small daughter.

Anyway, I think she shouldn't be stopped from working on TV just because of her disability, its good that children question these things because then they learn more. I'm sure its just these paranoid parents who are all saying its a bad thing - and I bet their kids haven't commented on it, it will only be a small number who will even notice!

I agree with pinkmichk.
Also, whats all this about her actual presenting skills? I can't say I've tuned into CBeebies ;o

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!


How do you mean worse?


The BBC News can put a angle on it
and make it all worse.

At the moment it is just papers
so it could die away.

[Novo]

9 complaints

christ

even danger mouse got more complaints then that back in the day :nono:

[Tom]

This is the most ridiculous thing I have EVER heard about being complained about, and that includes sex and nudity on GMTV and "that" dress on Dancing on Ice.

The people that complain perhaps want to tell their children about disabilities and stop making them think that the world is perfect. Remove them from their cotton wool and bubble wrap and make them open their eyes to these problems in life, not everything is as rosy as it is on TV! What message does it really send out to their children? Its OK to be scared of people with disabilities? Disabled people aren't normal too?

Those who complained need to get a grip and open their eyes to physical disabilities, and the sooner they can do that the sooner we can just forget all about it and let the poor woman get on with her job without feeling like shes being ridiculed which I'm sure is something she has had to put up with time and time again.

Although I'm usually against this kind of substitution, substitute the word "disabled" for "black" and imagine that she has both arms. Its no different to that kind of prejudice imo and those who complained disgust me.

rant over, ha I sound pretty clever :joker:

[Dom:D]

The parents need to teach their children there is nothing to be scared of.
And 9 complaints:rolleyes:

[arista]

Originally posted by JOSHUAH!

Also, whats all this about her actual presenting skills? I can't say I've tuned into CBeebies ;o


A Angry mother on Ch5 this morning
said the others before her did a better job.
The Wright Stuff got obverloaded with Emails
some said it was a good thing
some said it was wrong.

[arista]

Originally posted by Dom:D
The parents need to teach their children there is nothing to be scared of.
And 9 complaints:rolleyes:


The BBC gets Touchy on Complaints how ever small.

[arista]

Originally posted by .Andy.
9 complaints

christ

even danger mouse got more complaints then that back in the day :nono:


But in those days there was no Foruns on the BBC
or a Media like today.

You can never compare 20 years or more ago with the Multi Channel days of today.


Mind you
then the BBC was not Bloated.

[*mazedsalv**]

Its taking the mick!!!! Compaints from parents about that!!!! Stupid!!

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
lol ... am I missing something?... is Australia known for it's poor treatment of the handicapped? hehe.
Anyway... it will be a crazy world if perfectly capable people can't get a job just because a 2 year old's dad complained. Arista it was you who implied she got the job to fill some quota. So by that are you saying she does her job poorly and only got the job because of he disability? lol..."Aussie Old Type Dark Days" ... sounds like your living the dream hehe.



Yes the Quote about
her getting the Job because of her arm
was debated on Radio and TV here.

Also many have said she is not as good as the other presenters.
So it is many attacks.

To her credit
she can handle it.

I just hope the BBC National TV News does
not put this story up tonight
which could make it worse.
"Also many have said she is not as good as the other presenters."

No they didn't.... this magical "many" that you always use to back up your arguments is fictional.

"Yes the Quote about
her getting the Job because of her arm
was debated on Radio and TV here."

Who cares about what was debated on TV.... we're having a debate now.... telling us that "many" said this and "many" said that doesn't help your argument.

"which could make it worse."
your arguing that the disabled shouldn't be seen on the TV but should be locked away. Out of site, out of mind. There's nothing they could say that could "make" it worse than what's going on in your mind.

[arista]

I never said Lock he away
however, it would not hurt her to cover it.

[pinkmichk]

she isnt that good as a presenter but neither is her co-presenter but they are new and had big shoes to fill as the old presenters were there for some 7 odd yrs so knew the job inside out but that should be more the issue than her disability there should be no issue over her disabilty cos thats just teaching children bad ways as i said whats next then for those 9 complainers? take off something special which is a program that goes into special needs schools with children who have all manor of disabilities in case it scares a child as i also said i have many friends who have children of all ages from babies to 10 yrs old and all those children not one has been scared even if they had noticed they asked a simple question such as why does that lady not have 2 full arms get told a suitable answer and thats that it took me about a week to notice but as i said i am not bothered by it
there is far too much predjuice in this world as it and yes as has been said the presenter in question has a 4 month old daughter herself
she is bound to be nervous in a new job but add to that having to deal with people being negative about her disability (which she was born with) cant make it any easier
i am glad that the bbc are not ignoring the fact that the entire human race is different for whatever reason i applaud them if it means i have to answer questions about it so be it it will mean my daughter will hopefully not discriminate just cos someone has a disability as i previously said her own grandad is disabled she just accepts this as kids do its only when parents shove their own 'ideals' on to the kids it brings up things like this

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
I never said Lock he away
however, it would not hurt her to cover it.
are you for real?? this is not the olden days where people like this human being (who has accepted this is who she is since birth) are kept hidden and only allowed to be in freak shows and circus' its attitudes like that that cause so much predjuice in this world

[arista]

"she isnt that good as a presenter "


Thats what many on Ch5 Wright Stuff said this morning
I hope the Bloated BBC take that on board.

[pinkmichk]

she is still new its not just her her co presenter is the same why only take half what i said? the people before them were there 7 yrs and when they started they were the same

[arista]

Yes she is New
and now involved in a Debate about herself
and how her half arm looks.

[pinkmichk]

she didnt ask to be in it its not her fault some people are too small minded she has dealt with it has done since birth people nit pick at all sorts of things surely a easier thing to do if they dont like it is change the channel instead of spouting stupid predjuices

[Fom]

Get kids to accept things like this earlier, get over it. My niece saw her on the computer and she said she loves her.

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
she didnt ask to be in it its not her fault some people are too small minded she has dealt with it has done since birth people nit pick at all sorts of things surely a easier thing to do if they dont like it is change the channel instead of spouting stupid predjuices


Some parents are changing the Channel
thats the best way out of this.



It will be split in the Public eyes
that is normal.


It would be funny if it was put up as a question
on BBC TV Question Time on thursday
to get a vote there etc.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Fom
Get kids to accept things like this earlier, get over it. My niece saw her on the computer and she said she loves her.
:thumbs: agree kids accept things and only develop ridiculous views if those views are put on them but those who influence them

there is not really a big split decision over it if there was only 9 complaints i have heard far far more parents who have nothing but good things to say than those in the miniorty who have very dated views and 'ideals' on things like disability those in the miniority are just small minded this is 2009 not the 1900s

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
I never said Lock he away
however, it would not hurt her to cover it.

It would not hurt her to cover it...why should she hide part of herself because of a few ignorant backward prejudiced nutters...they should hide themselves away in shame!

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by arista
I never said Lock her away
however, it would not hurt her to cover it.

It would not hurt her to cover it...why should she hide part of herself because of a few ignorant backward prejudiced nutters...they should hide themselves away in shame!


No
you can not say that to millions law abiding parents.

[NettoSuperstar!]

millions??...erm 9 ignorant tw@ts to be precise...and even if it were millions...yes I could!

"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
Marcus Aurelius

"In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule."
Friedrich Nietzsche

[arista]

Most Adults would not watch CBBC
but if they did they would want her to cover her Arm up.
That is a Normal position to have.

[NettoSuperstar!]

I beg your pardon? Am I hearing this??...never in a million years would I want her to hide her disability and I would damn well hope and put money on most people (In this day and age) feeling the same!...Thats a normal position to have if you are ignorant, backward and prejudiced!

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
Most Adults would not watch CBBC
but if they did they would want her to cover her Arm up.
That is a Normal position to have.

:bored: i'm sorry but you taking the pee now that is not a normal position certainly not in my circle of friends or family
so should all people with a disability hide away cover it up and so on i'll pass that notion onto my dad should i that he should hide away cos people dont want to see disabilities
as i said bring your views into 2009

[arista]

No
but do not put them in front of 2 year olds.
There is No need
the BBC is Bloated with workers.

[ange7]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
millions??...erm 9 ignorant tw@ts to be precise...and even if it were millions...yes I could!

"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
Marcus Aurelius

"In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule."
Friedrich Nietzsche
haha...oops my just head just exploded.... your quoting Nietzsche on Tibb!!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
No
but do not put them in front of 2 year olds.
There is No need
the BBC is Bloated with workers.

Yes there is a need! children dont have any prejudiced or problem with difference until theyre taught that it is something strange and fearful! If they are exposed to difference at an early age and not hidden away from it they grow up to be well rounded individuals who accept people who are different and arent prejudiced in anyway

So yes there is a REAL NEED not to hide her disabilties!

Have you got learning difficulties? Im not being funny...I would go easier on you if that was the case. But you are wrong very wrong

[pinkmichk]

why? my daughter isnt bothered nor are my friends kids i'm certainly not gonna bring my child up to be predjuice against people with disabilities she is being taught not every one is the same and that is how it is no way will i cover things up as i have said many a times kids accept things unless they have views and opinions put on them by those who are around them my daughter has seen my dad through his disabilty as he had a accident when she was small
can i ask you this if you have children are you going to put your views onto them cos personally i think you are no better than the parent in the original artical who was putting his opinion first without the child having a opinion
its very worrying that the future generations could have such ridiculous views cos of narrow minded people its just tking society back to a time where things like disabilty are a taboo but its not we are in 2009

[NettoSuperstar!]

Lol I know! Its come to mind a few times in discussions with Arista!

[ange7]

arista your on a loser with this one. Even by your own standards, which seem to be what ever the majority thinks.

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
arista your on a loser with this one. Even by your own standards, which seem to be what ever the majority thinks.


Not for 2 year olds
there is no need.


That is a Fair Point.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
arista your on a loser with this one. Even by your own standards, which seem to be what ever the majority thinks.


Not for 2 year olds
there is no need.


That is a Fair Point.

no it is not :rolleyes: are you even a parent?

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
why? my daughter isnt bothered nor are my friends kids i'm certainly not going to bring my child up to be predjuice against people with disabilities she is being taught not every one is the same and that is how it is no way will i cover things up as i have said many a times kids accept things unless they have views and opinions put on them by those who are around them my daughter has seen my dad through his disabilty as he had a accident when she was small
can i ask you this if you have children are you going to put your views onto them cos personally i think you are no better than the parent in the original artical who was putting his opinion first without the child having a opinion
its very worrying that the future generations could have such ridiculous views cos of narrow minded people its just tking society back to a time where things like disabilty are a taboo but its not we are in 2009



It is good you daughter is fine with this.

No - you can not ask about my family.

Yes it is 2009
but people have many views on this.

Mine is not for 2 year olds.

[pinkmichk]

there was 9 complaints 9 not thousands as has been said there is many many many more who are not so shallow minded over this

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
there was 9 complaints 9 not thousands as has been said there is many many many more who are not so shallow minded over this


But it went out on a Morning Ch5 Live show
and was talked about on many radio stations.

[pinkmichk]

and how many of those shows took the same stance as the 9 parents who complained? i would happily bet none

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by pinkmichk
there was 9 complaints 9 not thousands as has been said there is many many many more who are not so shallow minded over this


But it went out on a Morning Ch5 Live show
and was talked about on many radio stations.
so you keep saying but we didn't listen to that so please tell us what your argument is for the need to "protect" kids from the sight of disabled people. In all the thread you haven't made this argument yet.

[arista]

No many Angry Parents went onto these shows.
More against it.

One Mother said The BBC presenter just came on one day
never told the viewers why she hyad one arm.

That is Typical of the BBC.

[arista]

She can cover her Arm
it will not Hurt her.

[pinkmichk]

why should she have to justify herself and explain why she has only one arm to satisfy a few muppets who are stuck in the dark ages

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
She can cover her Arm
it will not Hurt her.

she shouldnt have to :rolleyes:

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
why should she have to justify herself and explain why she has only one arm to satisfy a few muppets who are stuck in the dark ages


It would have helped that parent
as her child wanted to know.

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by arista
She can cover her Arm
it will not Hurt her.

she shouldnt have to :rolleyes:



Yes that is your view.

[Gemmer-x]

Originally posted by arista
She can cover her Arm
it will not Hurt her.

Yes, she could cover her arm, but she shouldn't feel the need to. Having a disability is nothing to be ashamed of. :rolleyes:

[arista]

Originally posted by Gemmer-x
Originally posted by arista
She can cover her Arm
it will not Hurt her.

Yes, she could cover her arm, but she shouldn't feel the need to. Having a disability is nothing to be ashamed of. :rolleyes:


Of Course.


But Covering the Arm will help those not happy with this.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Gemmer-x
Originally posted by arista
She can cover her Arm
it will not Hurt her.

Yes, she could cover her arm, but she shouldn't feel the need to. Having a disability is nothing to be ashamed of. :rolleyes:


Of Course.


But Covering the Arm will help those not happy with this.
lol there are idiots who "are not happy" with black people. Should black people cover themselves up? Surely if people have a problem with something that the majority are fine with then they really ought to sort themselves out rather than expect society to do back flips for them.

And just because more people complained on that radio show that doesn't mean the majority agree, That radio show sounds like a complaints show where idiots whine and b*tch their sad day away. More people who have a prob with their children seeing that presenter will ring than those parents that are fine with it. So the difference in the numbers that called up the show who were "for" versus those "against" can't be used as poll results.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by pinkmichk
why should she have to justify herself and explain why she has only one arm to satisfy a few muppets who are stuck in the dark ages


It would have helped that parent
as her child wanted to know.

then thats the difference between a good parent and a bad one then cos a good parent would have explained in a age approiate way kids accept things unless they have views forced on them by parents so that parent only has themself to blame not the bbc not the lady involved who just happens to have 1 arm but the parent

[Fom]

Is it really that hard for parents to go 'They were born that way like you were born with 2 arms and 2 legs. Everyone is different'

As Michelle said, its the difference between a good parent or a bad parent, kids dont care! They only care when the parents start worrying, Kids accept everything. They are learning.

[NettoSuperstar!]

We dont have to pander to bigots, they need to drag themselves into the 21st century. They have the problem, they need to deal with it. People with disabilties dont need to hide and feel ashamed of themselves, its not their problem some people are small minded"

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
She can cover her Arm
it will not Hurt her.

Just like you could cover your
face it will not hurt you.
Thats how trivial ridiculous
it is, she can't help it and
isn't ashamed of it. Why
should she be? And why
should parents not accept
it and teach their kids that
the world is not wrapped in
bubble wrap and everything
isn't perfect?

[arista]

This is only for 2 year olds.

[Fom]

Originally posted by arista
This is only for 2 year olds.

My niece is 2, nearly 3. And she got really excited when she saw her picture on my computer screen. 2 year olds don't care.

My niece was more excited at the fact she thought 'In the night garden' was going to start soon, I bet she doesn't even notice the arm.

[pinkmichk]

but why start them on something if its gonna be different once they are no longer 2 my daughter is almost 4 and is accepting that people have disabilities as she is over any thing like race and so on

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yeh exactly 2 year olds dont care, its their parents attitude that makes them scared

[ange7]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Yeh exactly 2 year olds dont care, its their parents attitude that makes them scared
hmmm aren't you convinced by arista's "This is only for 2 year olds." argument? :P ...awww how about "bloated BBC"?:tongue:

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
This is only for 2 year olds.

Then if its for 2 year old combat things early! If parents say its OK to not like and maybe have phobias of disabled people then what hope do they have later in life? They're at a very impressionable age so if they learn disabilities are normal at an early age then maybe they won't laugh at them when they're older

[supernoodles!]

Jees shes got one arm shes not a murderer!Might as well lets kids see people with diasabilities asap ,becuase the sooner they get used to it the sooner they will see it as normal and there will be less prejudice in society.

[NettoSuperstar!]

haha the FAT BBC!

[bananarama]

I don't know what the girls prsenting skills are like as that is a seperate issue....But it amazes me that anyone would be cruel and ignorant enough to complain about her disability..

As for the two year old possibility of nightmares me thinks that is moon shine from a father who should be ashamed.....

It is the parents duty to monitor how very young children react to TV shows and if some sort of fear is generated then the parent should prevent the child from watching until the child is old enough to have things explained and the fear removed......

Disabled people should not be regarded as something that will frighten young children......On the contrary young children should be exposed to the real world with guidence from their parents.....

[arista]

Originally posted by bananarama
I don't know what the girls prsenting skills are like as that is a seperate issue....But it amazes me that anyone would be cruel and ignorant enough to complain about her disability..

As for the two year old possibility of nightmares me thinks that is moon shine from a father who should be ashamed.....

It is the parents duty to monitor how very young children react to TV shows and if some sort of fear is generated then the parent should prevent the child from watching until the child is old enough to have things explained and the fear removed......

Disabled people should not be regarded as something that will frighten young children......On the contrary young children should be exposed to the real world with guidence from their parents.....


All Correct.
By some Parents will not let their Kids watch the One Armed show.
Maybe the Parents of that 2 year old are doing their best
but this Arm cut off (look) can be scary
and that is only Normal.

[Sticks]

I briefly got to see this presenter in action last night at our minister's house.

The young son reaction was to say she was like one of the students from America we had working with the church in 2007 who was born with a similar condition. Never caused any of them nightmares to my knowledge. I am actually a friend with the student on Facebook.

[amydropdead_x]

2 year olds won't be bothered at all, it's their parents that presume they are.
Parents should let their children watch cbeebies with the presenter on, as they will come across people with disabilitys etc throughout their lives, so there's no point hiding it away from them and stuff

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by bananarama
I don't know what the girls prsenting skills are like as that is a seperate issue....But it amazes me that anyone would be cruel and ignorant enough to complain about her disability..

As for the two year old possibility of nightmares me thinks that is moon shine from a father who should be ashamed.....

It is the parents duty to monitor how very young children react to TV shows and if some sort of fear is generated then the parent should prevent the child from watching until the child is old enough to have things explained and the fear removed......

Disabled people should not be regarded as something that will frighten young children......On the contrary young children should be exposed to the real world with guidence from their parents.....



By some Parents will not let their Kids watch the One Armed show.


wtf its not the 1 armed show you are so incredibly rude about any minority groups its no wonder there is so much hatred in this world with views like that
and incidently the presenting side has got better now they are not in that i'm a new person stage but it wasnt the presenting in question

[ange7]

the "one armed show" !! ...oh arista you didn't type that did you? hehe

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
the "one armed show" !! ...oh arista you didn't type that did you? hehe


No The Bloated BBC
is limited to a few good things
this is not one of them.
Because they did not explain who she is
typical BBC attitude.

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk


wtf its not the 1 armed show you are so incredibly rude


Yes I am Rude
at times about the Bloated BBC.



Life In The City.

[pinkmichk]

they dont have to explain its down to parents who if dont like it turn the channel over instead of putting their ancient views onto kids who should be taught that not every one is the same in this world
but you are being rude about the presenter who happens to be a part of the bbc not the bbc itself :rolleyes:

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
they dont have to explain its down to parents who if dont like it turn the channel over instead of putting their ancient views onto kids who should be taught that not every one is the same in this world
but you are being rude about the presenter who happens to be a part of the bbc not the bbc itself :rolleyes:


Well many Parents want the BBC to Explain it,
they do not like changes "pushed" on them.



Sign Of The Times.

[pinkmichk]

i give up i really do its down to parenting its not down to the bbc bringing up the kids and teaching them about disability or whatever its down to the parents if they would rather bury their heads in the sand and pass on stupid views that are so dated onto their kids so be it it will be their kids in future years who are behind hate towards any minority groups
i'm so glad my daughter isnt being brought up to be like that

[letmein]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by pinkmichk
they dont have to explain its down to parents who if dont like it turn the channel over instead of putting their ancient views onto kids who should be taught that not every one is the same in this world
but you are being rude about the presenter who happens to be a part of the bbc not the bbc itself :rolleyes:


Well many Parents want the BBC to Explain it,
they do not like changes "pushed" on them.



Sign Of The Times.

You are every bad stereotype. I swear to god.

Change. Oh my god, dear lord in heaven!

The world does not revolve around these idiots.

Get over it.

[arista]

Everyone is over it
it is a Old story.


Life In The City

[serensilver]

whats the big dea:conf2:l shes not an alien or anything children need to see 'real' world things like people with one arm etc! some parents can be so over protective cant they?!!:conf2: