View Full Version : Islamic extremists claim Jade will go to Hell unless she converts to Islam
Sticks
10-03-2009, 05:09 AM
From the Sun Online (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2310016.ece)
JADE Goody will go to hell because she is a Christian, Muslim fanatics insisted last night.
The warped internet claim by followers of hate preacher Omar Bakri followed dying Jade’s decision to be baptised.
The ceremony was carried out at the weekend in London’s Royal Marsden Hospital for Jade, 27, and her young sons Bobby and Freddie.
But extremists who support Bakri and al-Qaeda launched a furious attack on the star on a website operated by a banned group which backs the preacher, who is now based in the Lebanon.
The fanatics declared: “The Christian faith to which she now turns to does not provide the answers.
“Jesus to who Christians plead for salvation will be of no avail. We call upon Jade Goody, other Christians and mankind to return back to Allah.
“If you do not then death awaits and hell will be the final abode and destiny for those who disbelieve in Allah.”
The rant appeared on the Islam for the UK website operated by longtime Bakri henchman Anjem Choudary.
There is a picture of Jade on the site’s home page accompanied by the caption: “O Jade Goody — Now is the Time to Repent and Return to Your Lord Allah and Save Yourself!”
The rant prompted a visitor to the site named only as Bilal to say cruelly: “Think of the benefits. Wearing a khimaar (head covering) would cover that bald head of yours.”
Jade lost her hair as a result of the chemotherapy she received to try to stop her cancer spreading.
:rolleyes:
=-Incognito-=
10-03-2009, 05:28 AM
Duh! Jade.... Heaven...... Yeah right.
Twilight
10-03-2009, 07:26 AM
That is evil how can he say she will go to hell just because shes not Muslim:bored:
arista
10-03-2009, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by TheTwilightPrincess5
That is evil how can he say she will go to hell just because shes not Muslim:bored:
There Is No God.
Or Hell
Or Heaven.
That Crazy Muslim is not in the UK.
Case Closed.
Lauren
10-03-2009, 08:11 AM
It's claimed about all Christians, because they're not embracing the Muslim religion. It's just their beliefs.
Just like Christians would have claimed she'd be going to hell if she hadn't been christened, would people have been up in arms then?
It's really not as "crazy" as this article is making it sound.
andyman
10-03-2009, 09:23 AM
No doubt there will be some looney left-wing council that will agree with this...
There is no religion therefore there is no hell. Its all based on false beliefs.
arista
10-03-2009, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Lauren
It's claimed about all Christians, because they're not embracing the Muslim religion. It's just their beliefs.
Just like Christians would have claimed she'd be going to hell if she hadn't been christened, would people have been up in arms then?
It's really not as "crazy" as this article is making it sound.
The Bible is a Fable.
There is No God anyway.
Lauren
10-03-2009, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by arista
The Bible is a Fable.
There is No God anyway.
I agree.
Others don't; I just find it interesting that Sticks posted this article as a very obvious way to sensationalise the "evil" of Islam, when in fact his own religion supports the same ideas.
Sticks
10-03-2009, 12:24 PM
Well there was a flurry of Jade stories in the press, so I added this one.
And for the record, "Christening" is not actually Biblical, as the New Testament clearly points out that those who are to be baptised, should be believers. As a further aside, the word used for baptism actually means immerse in the Greek.
And finally I have regular conversations with a very nice Muslim, which is why I used the word extremist, to distance them from moderate Muslims who will also dispair at these claims. :nono:
andyman
10-03-2009, 12:30 PM
"Extremist".. "Moderate".. Both are the same.
Lauren
10-03-2009, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by Sticks
Well there was a flurry of Jade stories in the press, so I added this one.
And for the record, "Christening" is not actually Biblical, as the New Testament clearly points out that those who are to be baptised, should be believers. As a further aside, the word used for baptism actually means immerse in the Greek.
And finally I have regular conversations with a very nice Muslim, which is why I used the word extremist, to distance them from moderate Muslims who will also dispair at these claims. :nono:
Sticks, I didn't intend to make it sound like you were being racist towards Islam or posted this to get reactions.
I was moreso pointing towards the fact that the article itself is very sensationalist, in the fact that the views posted within it aren't so "bad" as they make out. Islamists are saying if someone is not of the Muslim faith, then they won't go to heaven. What's so bad with that? They believe this to be true in their faith, so they've said it.
I've been told many times by Christians on the street that I will be judged by God for not being a practicing believer.
ange7
10-03-2009, 02:45 PM
if you won't L then I will...
why post this if you weren't stirring Sticks? I'm sure there as many ultra conservative crazy Christians who equally say she's going to hell. The article quotes a "website"... OMG you can find every nutjob you care to on the internet. Why are you posting the thoughts of Islamic extremists and not Christian extremists?
arista
10-03-2009, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by ange7
if you won't L then I will...
why post this if you weren't stirring Sticks? I'm sure there as many ultra conservative crazy Christians who equally say she's going to hell. The article quotes a "website"... OMG you can find every nutjob you care to on the internet. Why are you posting the thoughts of Islamic extremists and not Christian extremists?
Ange
over here he is not stirring
it is on SkyNews - the best news station in the UK.
This Nutjob wants to return to the UK
that is why the Sun is stirring it.
ange7
10-03-2009, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
if you won't L then I will...
why post this if you weren't stirring Sticks? I'm sure there as many ultra conservative crazy Christians who equally say she's going to hell. The article quotes a "website"... OMG you can find every nutjob you care to on the internet. Why are you posting the thoughts of Islamic extremists and not Christian extremists?
Ange
over here he is not stirring
it is on SkyNews - the best news station in the UK.
This Nutjob wants to return to the UK
that is why the Sun is stirring it.
? you say Sticks isn't stirring....
then you say the Sun article IS stirring.
Did you miss the part where Sticks posted the article?
arista
10-03-2009, 03:28 PM
Do you understand Every Viewpoint
on Jade gets posted.
If he did not a Admin would have.
So get of your Utter High Horse
down there.
Life In The City.
Sticks
10-03-2009, 03:38 PM
This morning I saw several Jade related threads posting newspaper stories about Jade.
This one had yet to be done, so like others I just posted it.
ange7
10-03-2009, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by arista
Do you understand Every Viewpoint
on Jade gets posted.
If he did not a Admin would have.
So get of your Utter High Horse
down there.
Life In The City.
lol...don't get upset.
you contradicted yourself....so pointed it out to you.
re "Every Viewpoint on Jade gets posted"
Rubbish. Admin don't go around looking for EVERY bb related article to post. ffs hehe
People post stuff for a reason. Sticks has posted stuff about Islam before many times before.
My fav prince song is...
Sign of the Times
So baptised is just a posh word for brainwashed?
ange7
10-03-2009, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Sticks
This morning I saw several Jade related threads posting newspaper stories about Jade.
This one had yet to be done, so like others I just posted it.
Arista thinks "Sun is stirring it" ...do you agree with him?
ange7
10-03-2009, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Tom
So baptised is just a posh word for brainwashed?
aww ... your trying too hard.
ange7
10-03-2009, 03:51 PM
zzzz
arista
10-03-2009, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
Do you understand Every Viewpoint
on Jade gets posted.
If he did not a Admin would have.
So get of your Utter High Horse
down there.
Life In The City.
lol...don't get upset.
you contradicted yourself....so pointed it out to you.
re "Every Viewpoint on Jade gets posted"
Rubbish. Admin don't go around looking for EVERY bb related article to post. ffs hehe
People post stuff for a reason. Sticks has posted stuff about Islam before many times before.
My fav prince song is...
Sign of the Times
I am not Upset.
Leave Sticks Alone
its good to have many views
likle I love watching the Iranian Owned Press TV News ch.
on Sky.
George Galloway can say what ever he wants on his shows on it,
no Stuck Up Bloated BBC rules on there.
Ange
is this thread of mine to hard for you
or have you not seen it yet
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=109285
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
So baptised is just a posh word for brainwashed?
aww ... your trying too hard.
Am I? How? :puzzled:
I was just going off the point that baptise is the Greek word for immerse, so people are immersed in religion not necessarily at their own will, so are brainwashed.
I wouldn't exactly say that was trying too hard ... but as ever you're just picking at small points in order to try and score points and get a reaction. I pity you
james_h
10-03-2009, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
So baptised is just a posh word for brainwashed?
aww ... your trying too hard.
Am I? How? :puzzled:
I was just going off the point that baptise is the Greek word for immerse, so people are immersed in religion not necessarily at their own will, so are brainwashed.
I wouldn't exactly say that was trying too hard ... but as ever you're just picking at small points in order to try and score points and get a reaction. I pity you
No, they are immersed in water hence meant to wash away original sin which we are all meant to be born with. And Baptism is like a preliminary thing. There's confirmation at like 13 when you confirm your beliefs like Baptism but you make the decision yourself. LOL Btw I have a very religious gran and I go to a Catholic School just in case your wondering LOL
Lauren
10-03-2009, 05:42 PM
Arista - why do you believe this man is a "nutjob" ? He is echoing the same beliefs as moderate Christians.
Originally posted by james_h
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
So baptised is just a posh word for brainwashed?
aww ... your trying too hard.
Am I? How? :puzzled:
I was just going off the point that baptise is the Greek word for immerse, so people are immersed in religion not necessarily at their own will, so are brainwashed.
I wouldn't exactly say that was trying too hard ... but as ever you're just picking at small points in order to try and score points and get a reaction. I pity you
No, they are immersed in water hence meant to wash away original sin which we are all meant to be born with. And Baptism is like a preliminary thing. There's confirmation at like 13 when you confirm your beliefs like Baptism but you make the decision yourself. LOL Btw I have a very religious gran and I go to a Catholic School just in case your wondering LOL
Ha, how wrong I was :blush2::blush2::blush2:
But I do think that its not a decision you make yourself most of the time, if certain beliefs are said to you time and time again you're going to believe them especially when you're at an impressionable age
arista
10-03-2009, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Lauren
Arista - why do you believe this man is a "nutjob" ? He is echoing the same beliefs as moderate Christians.
He was removed from the UK
because he could not speak without starting a War.
Dom:D
10-03-2009, 07:05 PM
:rolleyes:
MarkWaldorf
10-03-2009, 09:11 PM
I, Jade, and other Christians will believe what we want to believe. He believes there's a hell waiting for us, I believe there's a heaven. I hope Jade sticks a fat "****" on this one.
Wildcat!
10-03-2009, 09:28 PM
Muslims dont even believe that. The only people they believe would go to hell, are the non believers, as in non believers of the 3 books. The tora, the bible and the Coran. All three are ancestors of Islam. There is a reason why a muslim is allowed to marry christian or jewish people.
ange7
11-03-2009, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
Do you understand Every Viewpoint
on Jade gets posted.
If he did not a Admin would have.
So get of your Utter High Horse
down there.
Life In The City.
lol...don't get upset.
you contradicted yourself....so pointed it out to you.
re "Every Viewpoint on Jade gets posted"
Rubbish. Admin don't go around looking for EVERY bb related article to post. ffs hehe
People post stuff for a reason. Sticks has posted stuff about Islam before many times before.
My fav prince song is...
Sign of the Times
I am not Upset.
Leave Sticks Alone
its good to have many views
likle I love watching the Iranian Owned Press TV News ch.
on Sky.
George Galloway can say what ever he wants on his shows on it,
no Stuck Up Bloated BBC rules on there.
Ange
is this thread of mine to hard for you
or have you not seen it yet
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=109285
Sticks can take care of himself. I'm not silencing Sticks...
"it is good to have many views" you pointlessly say. Obviously that's true but that doesn't mean I ought to agree with all of them hehe lol.
re "is this thread of mine to hard for you" ... yes
ange7
11-03-2009, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by james_h
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
So baptised is just a posh word for brainwashed?
aww ... your trying too hard.
Am I? How? :puzzled:
I was just going off the point that baptise is the Greek word for immerse, so people are immersed in religion not necessarily at their own will, so are brainwashed.
I wouldn't exactly say that was trying too hard ... but as ever you're just picking at small points in order to try and score points and get a reaction. I pity you
No, they are immersed in water hence meant to wash away original sin which we are all meant to be born with. And Baptism is like a preliminary thing. There's confirmation at like 13 when you confirm your beliefs like Baptism but you make the decision yourself. LOL Btw I have a very religious gran and I go to a Catholic School just in case your wondering LOL
Ha, how wrong I was :blush2::blush2::blush2:
But I do think that its not a decision you make yourself most of the time, if certain beliefs are said to you time and time again you're going to believe them especially when you're at an impressionable age
hehe but you "pity" me? In your eagarness to look clever with your smug summing up you dropped the ball. Please Tom ...don't make me list all your Tom-isms in my signature. My fav is "I don't have to understand what I write!!"
Lauren
11-03-2009, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by Markus
I, Jade, and other Christians will believe what we want to believe. He believes there's a hell waiting for us, I believe there's a heaven. I hope Jade sticks a fat "****" on this one.
Well you believe there's a hell waiting for me, as you are a Christian and I am not.
Fair?
andyman
11-03-2009, 07:38 AM
Lauren you will go to hell if you dont talk to god about your sins n stuff... Erm.. Yep.. Ok...
It was on this program lastnight about these christians and on of them (13yr old girl) was upset knowing that we are all going to hell if we dont tell the lord our sins and follow his word n stuff... Yep!
And they told kids to think about their sins at night or when they die they will go straight to hell! Muhahaha!!! Dear lord and spank me silly but that aint right!
arista
11-03-2009, 07:43 AM
Lauren can not go to Hell
as there is Not any Hell.
andyman
11-03-2009, 07:46 AM
There is a hell... Birmingham!!
arista
11-03-2009, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by andyman
There is a hell... Birmingham!!
Sure a Living Hell.
MarkWaldorf
11-03-2009, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Markus
I, Jade, and other Christians will believe what we want to believe. He believes there's a hell waiting for us, I believe there's a heaven. I hope Jade sticks a fat "****" on this one.
Well you believe there's a hell waiting for me, as you are a Christian and I am not.
Fair?
I didn't mean hell was waiting for anyone at all...lol
Sticks
11-03-2009, 12:50 PM
This image
http://www.wisebread.com/files/fruganomics/wisebread_imce/Hell_freezing_over.jpg
comes to mind
We are getting off topic here which was about how a group of extremists have been attacking Jade Goody, who was my first client when I opperated as a Cyber Devil's advocate.
andyman
11-03-2009, 01:11 PM
^Will the Cyber Devil Advocate come out of retirement?
arista
11-03-2009, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Sticks
This image
http://www.wisebread.com/files/fruganomics/wisebread_imce/Hell_freezing_over.jpg
comes to mind
We are getting off topic here which was about how a group of extremists have been attacking Jade Goody, who was my first client when I opperated as a Cyber Devil's advocate.
Sticks there is No God, anyway.
Sign Of The Times.
Originally posted by ange7
hehe but you "pity" me? In your eagarness to look clever with your smug summing up you dropped the ball. Please Tom ...don't make me list all your Tom-isms in my signature. My fav is "I don't have to understand what I write!!"
I don't mind that I'm wrong, if I'm wrong I'll hold up my hands and admit it
You on the other hand latch on to other comments of other people and constantly bring other people down just to get a reaction, and this is why I pity you because you come across as though you're actually clueless but say things anyway
And leave my Tom-isms alone, I don't think before I speak/type, I just type and don't care :joker: If thats actually the worst you can come up with then perhaps you don't stalk my posts as much as I think you do
Don't remember saying "I don't have to understand what I write" though but of course maybe it was something where you could imply that
ange7
12-03-2009, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
hehe but you "pity" me? In your eagarness to look clever with your smug summing up you dropped the ball. Please Tom ...don't make me list all your Tom-isms in my signature. My fav is "I don't have to understand what I write!!"
I don't mind that I'm wrong, if I'm wrong I'll hold up my hands and admit it
You on the other hand latch on to other comments of other people and constantly bring other people down just to get a reaction, and this is why I pity you because you come across as though you're actually clueless but say things anyway
And leave my Tom-isms alone, I don't think before I speak/type, I just type and don't care :joker: If thats actually the worst you can come up with then perhaps you don't stalk my posts as much as I think you do
Don't remember saying "I don't have to understand what I write" though but of course maybe it was something where you could imply that
my other fav was " I don't need to agree with what I'm saying!!"... classic. ... oh and that explanation of "Time" was a human invention and how we have a set number of days that will one day " run out"... we'll run out of time!!!. Wish I could remember where they are...
The "worst" I came up with was proving you wrong... this is the cherry on the cake :P
ps..."stalking" ??? in your wildest paranoid schizophrenic fantasies champ... mahahaha...If people disagree with you please don't search for other angles for why they do.... its usually the most obvious ie... you spoke some nonsense.
Lauren
12-03-2009, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by MarkSpears
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Markus
I, Jade, and other Christians will believe what we want to believe. He believes there's a hell waiting for us, I believe there's a heaven. I hope Jade sticks a fat "****" on this one.
Well you believe there's a hell waiting for me, as you are a Christian and I am not.
Fair?
I didn't mean hell was waiting for anyone at all...lol
But Christians believe there is a hell waiting for sinners who have not repented, that includes me.
I'm just showing how his argument isn't far-extended from things we have come to accept as "normal" in Christianity.
Originally posted by ange7
my other fav was " I don't need to agree with what I'm saying!!"... classic. ... oh and that explanation of "Time" was a human invention and how we have a set number of days that will one day " run out"... we'll run out of time!!!. Wish I could remember where they are...
The "worst" I came up with was proving you wrong... this is the cherry on the cake :P
ps..."stalking" ??? in your wildest paranoid schizophrenic fantasies champ... mahahaha...If people disagree with you please don't search for other angles for why they do.... its usually the most obvious ie... you spoke some nonsense.
Time is is a human intervention, it isn't natural that there are so many seconds in a minute, number of minutes in an hour etc, that is all man made. I never said it would run out, I just said one day it will just become so pointless and tedious to write down the year that they might as well go back to the start, like if the world and us are still going and its year 98826542879346289642837647649836498326489372648297 648732649837264983724698372649873264983726498326.
Also you don't have to agree with what you write, its called writing what other peoples perspectives are. If you can't see that then you're the thick one not me.
Also I couldn't give a flying ****** if someone agrees with me or not, I'm just saying with you you seem to follow the same few people around constantly quoting and just posting snide little remarks and I'm not the only person that has noticed that. You also pick on small things and most of the time you have no idea what you're on about but will side with someone else and take what they write as gospel.
NettoSuperstar!
12-03-2009, 11:47 AM
lol@"no idea what hes on about"...i think you'll find Ange is a fellow critical thinker, not a bandwagon jumper
... after a lot of selective reading and deciding who to pull apart.
NettoSuperstar!
12-03-2009, 12:04 PM
...after weighing up an argument and noticing someones said summat mental!
ange7
12-03-2009, 10:14 PM
ta Netto ... oh and thanks Tom for setting me straight ....so one day we will run out of numbers and we'll have to start naming the years all of again. And if anyone doesn't believe that science well Tom has thought of you too "98826542879346289642837647649836498326489372648297 648732649837264983724698372649873264983726498326"!!!!! proof!! hehe... numbers are big!!!
mahahahaha
dude.. numbers are infinite! ie think of the largest number you can.... now add 1!. ... run out of numbers?
ps our sun will burn for 5 billion years before it turns into a red dwarf star and destroys Earth. eg 5,000,000,000 ..... so sleep well, confident in the knowledge that we have the numbers.
I feel like the fat kid in Willy Wonkas factory hehe
how do you know it will last 5 billion years? Its only a theory, it could go on forever, it could end tomorrow. No solid proof to say it won't.
I know numbers are infinite I'm not that thick, the point I'm making is that at some point it just won't be practical.
ange7
12-03-2009, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by Tom
how do you know it will last 5 billion years? Its only a theory, it could go on forever, it could end tomorrow. No solid proof to say it won't.
I know numbers are infinite I'm not that thick, the point I'm making is that at some point it just won't be practical.
" we'll run out of numbers!!!!" said Chicken little...
Just because it's a "theory" doesn't mean it's rubbish.... it means it's the WINNING theory that no other data can deny and for which lot's of data exist. Jump off a bridge Tom and you won't prove newton's theory but it will add to the data of observable patterns that point at the truth.
re 5 billion years
It's what stars do when their fuel is exhausted and they start to burn helium. They turn into red giants and then into white dwarves. Really big suns go supernova and then collapse onto themselves and form a blackhole. Proof isn't needed when it's an observable and predictable pattern....yet you demand proof every where and dismiss everything as just "theory" without providing an argument for why it's false.
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
how do you know it will last 5 billion years? Its only a theory, it could go on forever, it could end tomorrow. No solid proof to say it won't.
I know numbers are infinite I'm not that thick, the point I'm making is that at some point it just won't be practical.
" we'll run out of numbers!!!!" said Chicken little...
Just because it's a "theory" doesn't mean it's rubbish.... it means it's the WINNING theory that no other data can deny and for which lot's of data exist. Jump off a bridge Tom and you won't prove newton's theory but it will add to the data of observable patterns that point at the truth.
re 5 billion years
It's what stars do when their fuel is exhausted and they start to burn helium. They turn into red giants and then into white dwarves. Really big suns go supernova and then collapse onto themselves and form a blackhole. Proof isn't needed when it's an observable and predictable pattern....yet you demand proof every where and dismiss everything as just "theory" without providing an argument for why it's false.
How do they know they have been there for 5 billion years? Oh yeah, they're scientists, they know everything :rolleyes:
How did they figure out, pin point a star then get in their little time machine and keep going back until they found the start? No matter what tests they carried out, it all boils down to guess work. It might be an informed guess but it doesn't mean its right.
ange7
13-03-2009, 02:51 PM
"How do they know they have been there for 5 billion years? Oh yeah, they're scientists, they know everything :rolleyes:"
no they did the hard work and didn't talk rubbish all day trying to save face every time they put there foot in it. Your distrust of scientist and the way you dismiss decades of science and research..... I love that. I love hoe you just wave it away with a " oh it's not 100% proof".... but you don't provide any arguments against it. I love the thought that when you 40 you won't have grown in anyway except perhaps fatter hehe.
NettoSuperstar!
13-03-2009, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
how do you know it will last 5 billion years? Its only a theory, it could go on forever, it could end tomorrow. No solid proof to say it won't.
I know numbers are infinite I'm not that thick, the point I'm making is that at some point it just won't be practical.
" we'll run out of numbers!!!!" said Chicken little...
Just because it's a "theory" doesn't mean it's rubbish.... it means it's the WINNING theory that no other data can deny and for which lot's of data exist. Jump off a bridge Tom and you won't prove newton's theory but it will add to the data of observable patterns that point at the truth.
re 5 billion years
It's what stars do when their fuel is exhausted and they start to burn helium. They turn into red giants and then into white dwarves. Really big suns go supernova and then collapse onto themselves and form a blackhole. Proof isn't needed when it's an observable and predictable pattern....yet you demand proof every where and dismiss everything as just "theory" without providing an argument for why it's false.
How do they know they have been there for 5 billion years? Oh yeah, they're scientists, they know everything :rolleyes:
How did they figure out, pin point a star then get in their little time machine and keep going back until they found the start? No matter what tests they carried out, it all boils down to guess work. It might be an informed guess but it doesn't mean its right.
Can hardly call it guesswork lol
Originally posted by ange7
"How do they know they have been there for 5 billion years? Oh yeah, they're scientists, they know everything :rolleyes:"
no they did the hard work and didn't talk rubbish all day trying to save face every time they put there foot in it. Your distrust of scientist and the way you dismiss decades of science and research..... I love that. I love hoe you just wave it away with a " oh it's not 100% proof".... but you don't provide any arguments against it. I love the thought that when you 40 you won't have grown in anyway except perhaps fatter hehe.
I didn't say I distrust it. I use science to explain things as much as the next person but sometimes science isn't always right and thats what I'm trying to get across.
ange7
13-03-2009, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
"How do they know they have been there for 5 billion years? Oh yeah, they're scientists, they know everything :rolleyes:"
no they did the hard work and didn't talk rubbish all day trying to save face every time they put there foot in it. Your distrust of scientist and the way you dismiss decades of science and research..... I love that. I love hoe you just wave it away with a " oh it's not 100% proof".... but you don't provide any arguments against it. I love the thought that when you 40 you won't have grown in anyway except perhaps fatter hehe.
I didn't say I distrust it. I use science to explain things as much as the next person but sometimes science isn't always right and thats what I'm trying to get across.
useless point...we all know scince isn't always right and what does "I didn't say I distrust it" have to do with it? It's clear by the way you trash talk theories you've no clue about. If you disagree with a point bring an argument...all you ever do is say "it's just a theory". The only time YOU can say that is when you do some work and try disproving those theories. Keep going round in circles mate. zzzzz
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
"How do they know they have been there for 5 billion years? Oh yeah, they're scientists, they know everything :rolleyes:"
no they did the hard work and didn't talk rubbish all day trying to save face every time they put there foot in it. Your distrust of scientist and the way you dismiss decades of science and research..... I love that. I love hoe you just wave it away with a " oh it's not 100% proof".... but you don't provide any arguments against it. I love the thought that when you 40 you won't have grown in anyway except perhaps fatter hehe.
I didn't say I distrust it. I use science to explain things as much as the next person but sometimes science isn't always right and thats what I'm trying to get across.
useless point...we all know scince isn't always right and what does "I didn't say I distrust it" have to do with it? It's clear by the way you trash talk theories you've no clue about. If you disagree with a point bring an argument...all you ever do is say "it's just a theory". The only time YOU can say that is when you do some work and try disproving those theories. Keep going round in circles mate. zzzzz
Its quite lazy to copy and paste you know.
Also you've just completely contradicted yourself. Earlier on you was basically going on about how science is always right etc ... and then you just said it isn't. Oops, look like you've put your foot in it there. zzzzzzz.
ange7
13-03-2009, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
"How do they know they have been there for 5 billion years? Oh yeah, they're scientists, they know everything :rolleyes:"
no they did the hard work and didn't talk rubbish all day trying to save face every time they put there foot in it. Your distrust of scientist and the way you dismiss decades of science and research..... I love that. I love hoe you just wave it away with a " oh it's not 100% proof".... but you don't provide any arguments against it. I love the thought that when you 40 you won't have grown in anyway except perhaps fatter hehe.
I didn't say I distrust it. I use science to explain things as much as the next person but sometimes science isn't always right and thats what I'm trying to get across.
useless point...we all know scince isn't always right and what does "I didn't say I distrust it" have to do with it? It's clear by the way you trash talk theories you've no clue about. If you disagree with a point bring an argument...all you ever do is say "it's just a theory". The only time YOU can say that is when you do some work and try disproving those theories. Keep going round in circles mate. zzzzz
Its quite lazy to copy and paste you know.
Also you've just completely contradicted yourself. Earlier on you was basically going on about how science is always right etc ... and then you just said it isn't. Oops, look like you've put your foot in it there. zzzzzzz.
lol... rubbish....show me where I said "science is always right".
Again, you're showing your selective reading skills. I said "basically going on about how science is always right" which doesn't mean that you have actually said that, but just implying it over two threads. And its quite obvious especially as we've been arguing about it. If you're that intelligent then at least figure out what you're trying to argue for.
ange7
13-03-2009, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by Tom
Again, you're showing your selective reading skills. I said "basically going on about how science is always right" which doesn't mean that you have actually said that, but just implying it over two threads. And its quite obvious especially as we've been arguing about it. If you're that intelligent then at least figure out what you're trying to argue for.
more b*ll*cks...
so show me where I "was basically going on about how science is always right etc" mahahaha
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
Again, you're showing your selective reading skills. I said "basically going on about how science is always right" which doesn't mean that you have actually said that, but just implying it over two threads. And its quite obvious especially as we've been arguing about it. If you're that intelligent then at least figure out what you're trying to argue for.
more b*ll*cks...
so show me where I "was basically going on about how science is always right etc" mahahaha
You were arguing with my point that science isn't always right. The rest is quite self explanatory :pat:
ange7
16-03-2009, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
Again, you're showing your selective reading skills. I said "basically going on about how science is always right" which doesn't mean that you have actually said that, but just implying it over two threads. And its quite obvious especially as we've been arguing about it. If you're that intelligent then at least figure out what you're trying to argue for.
more b*ll*cks...
so show me where I "was basically going on about how science is always right etc" mahahaha
You were arguing with my point that science isn't always right. The rest is quite self explanatory :pat:
ummm no hehe... where in this thread was that the argument. It's possible that was an argument you were having at the same time with the many voices in your head. The argument was about your concept of time and your worry that one day we will run out of days and/or numbers for naming years!! mahahaha omfg your a gift that keeps on giving :pat:
Bells
16-03-2009, 07:32 AM
I 100% agree with Lauren's views on this - however, I don't see why such a fuss should be made about what these extremists have said. Fine, it's their view/opinion (as everyone is entitled to have), but nobody is required to believe or act on them - i.e. Jade isn't. Repenting for your sins in any way is a good start, which we can't know if Jade has genuinely done.
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by Tom
Again, you're showing your selective reading skills. I said "basically going on about how science is always right" which doesn't mean that you have actually said that, but just implying it over two threads. And its quite obvious especially as we've been arguing about it. If you're that intelligent then at least figure out what you're trying to argue for.
more b*ll*cks...
so show me where I "was basically going on about how science is always right etc" mahahaha
You were arguing with my point that science isn't always right. The rest is quite self explanatory :pat:
ummm no hehe... where in this thread was that the argument. It's possible that was an argument you were having at the same time with the many voices in your head. The argument was about your concept of time and your worry that one day we will run out of days and/or numbers for naming years!! mahahaha omfg your a gift that keeps on giving :pat:
We were having the same argument across two threads. But now I bring in other threads its suddenly not OK, but when you did it it was fine :pat:
Oh you think you're so clever, its quite laughable actually
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