BBC News to go on Strike - I want a Refund (now we have to pay £150,000 J.Ross Ofcom Fine as well)

[arista]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1162583/And-news--Newsnight-BBC-journalists-strike-cuts.html

"BBC journalists will hold two days
of strike action next month which could
see the Ten O'Clock News, Newsnight
and the Today programme taken off the air."


If they Strike
I want 2 days Refunded.

ITV News do not strike
and they have been cut to bits.



Bloated BBC lets the UK Down.



Sign Of The Times.

[30stone]

How much will it cost for you to pay them for 2 days?

[Mark]

A TV license is about 38p a day :bigsmile:

[arista]

The BBC has a Bloated Bank of Public money
I Demand 2 days Full refund.

No Paxman
No fee for those to Illegal Strike Days.


Life In The Fast Lane.

[arista]

Originally posted by Mark
A TV license is about 38p a day :bigsmile:



They can take it off by Bill.
Good to see you Smile Mark.


And any more than those 2 Days of Strike
I demand a Refund.

[Sod_James]

The amount of crap they put on BBC anyway. its all repeats. i wold want a full refund. Day time tv MASSIVE yawn.

[arista]

Originally posted by Sod_James
The amount of c**p they put on BBC anyway. its all repeats. i wold want a full refund. Day time tv MASSIVE yawn.


Yes SJ
Bang On Right.

Friday Night Peak times
and BBC1 shows repeats.


In the Digital TV age
the BBC are not worthy of our cash,
anymore.

[Sod_James]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Sod_James
The amount of c**p they put on BBC anyway. its all repeats. i wold want a full refund. Day time tv MASSIVE yawn.


Yes SJ
Bang On Right.

Friday Night Peak times
and BBC1 shows repeats.


In the Digital TV age
the BBC are not worthy of our cash,
anymore.

i only watch BBC for the news. theres only so many times i can watch Murder, She Wrote, Cash in the Attic and all that crap. makes me want to shot myself

[andyman]

The BBC is great value for money! Plus we get..
BBC1
BBC2
BBC Three
BBC Four
Radio 1
Radio 2
Radio 3
Radio 4
Radio 5
Radio 6
Radio 7??
1Xtra
5live extra
BBC World Service
CBBC
Cbebees
BBC News 24

Plus all the greaw drama and comedy they make that is world class! BBC sport is the best, they support young talent plus air fantastic american programs.. Plus much much more!!!

All that is worth 38p per day! Thats 1 and halp pence ever hour! Pukka deal!

[arista]

Yes but for 2 Days
the Bloated BBC News team go on strike.


I demand a Refund for those strike days.

[andyman]

Originally posted by arista
Yes but for 2 Days
the Bloated BBC News team go on strike.


I demand a Refund for those strike days. Your Mighty two day refund has been donated to the Comic Relief Fund... Well done Arista, be proud, be very proud. :pat:

[Tom]

Waterloo Road, Match of the Day and Family Guy are worth the license fee alone

I watch ITV and Sky News anyway so I won't be bothered about the BBC strike

No license fee would have a knock on effect on the rest of TV because the BBC and ITV would be fighting between advertisers, so theoretically ITV's revenue would at least half and they're already in big trouble. Then Channel 4 and five would also struggle to get advertisers because they've all gone to BBC1-4, ITV1-4 and as you go down from the biggest to the smallest commercial channels the problems will get bigger because each channel will be affected by better performing ones.

[andyman]

Tom that is right.. We can all moan about the licence fee but we get the whole BBC network for such a small price to pay! The BBC is known all over the world and it's ours.. The licence fee should be worth more with what we get.

Arista is beating on a broken drum with his bloated bbc rant.
The valid reasons for the licence fee out weighs any reason for the licence fee to be dumped.

[Harry!]

CBBC and Cbebees is a load of c**p

[arista]

Originally posted by Madonna
CBBC and Cbebees is a load of c**p


Bang On Right.

Another Refund Due.

K-Ching.


http://www.thewaterloohotel.co.uk/userimages/46-2000_fs.jpg

[pinkmichk]

what you gonna buy with your 76p then arista :pat:

there is loads of good stuff on the bbc as has been said its not just bbc1 what about all the comedy stuff on bbc3 alone that is worth the money oh and my 3 yr disagrees about cbbc and cbeebies

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
what you going to buy with your 76p then arista

there is loads of good stuff on the bbc as has been said its not just bbc1 what about all the comedy stuff on bbc3 alone that is worth the money oh and my 3 yr disagrees about cbbc and cbeebies


Hang On a minute.
We do not know how many 2 day strikes they will have
Once they End it
then I can get My Grand Total.


http://www.xsilva.com/images/Icon_27_Till.png

[Tom]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
what you going to buy with your 76p then arista :pat:

there is loads of good stuff on the bbc as has been said its not just bbc1 what about all the comedy stuff on bbc3 alone that is worth the money oh and my 3 yr disagrees about cbbc and cbeebies

Put it towards a value meal :tongue:

[pinkmichk]

:laugh2:

[arista]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510Q7WcKz9L._SS500_.jpg


This is a Good Book
by a former BBC worker.

[arista]

8:30PM Friday Night Peak times.
Outtake TV Bloody Repeat.

And so Corrupt & typical of the Bloated BBC
they have put a New Logo on it saying "outaketv."
But it is a repeat shown many ,many times
on UKTV channels and the Poxy BBC , before.

Check your TV Mags
it says Not a repeat.
But it is.


This is why they should Refund us
The Bosses of the BBC said they would not show repeats
at peak times,
Mother********** Criminal Bastards




I Demand a Refund
Now.

[ange7]

Bloated BBC
Sign Of The Times.
Public money
Life In The Fast Lane.
Bang On Right.
Poxy French
New Labour Depression

zzz

[arista]

The BBC breaks their very own Rules
on repeats.

[ange7]

write them a letter.

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
write them a letter.


I do
many times.

It gets logged.


And Nothing happens.

They are not Worthy of my Money.

[30stone]

Artista!

Will you still pay for itv since it may cost 3 pound a month soon??

[arista]

Originally posted by Robin-Van-Perfect
Artista!

Will you still pay for itv since it may cost 3 pound a month soon??



Thats Not true.
Paper story.
Un Viable.

If I had a choice I would pay for ITV/Ch4/Ch5.

Not the bloated BBC

[arista]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1163962/The-Antiques-Oldshow-Sneaky-BBC-uses-years-repeats-pad-latest-series-Roadshow.html


BBC last night at Peak Hours
did it again without telling the Public the Truth
it was a Repeat.

"John Beyer, of the lobby group Mediawatch UK, said: 'The BBC need to be open and above board when a show is a repeat. If they just slip in an old show whilst billing the series as new, then that is not being honest. That is misleading."

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
write them a letter.


I do
many times.

It gets logged.


And Nothing happens.

They are not Worthy of my Money.
can you please post one of them here?...

[arista]

No

[ange7]

why not?

[arista]

Because it is to them the BBC
Not for Public use.

[ange7]

It's a public funded organisation so the public have a right to know any complaints. Save me the bother of an FOI (Freedom of Information) request by telling us yourself. I promise I won't laugh.

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
It's a public funded organisation so the public have a right to know any complaints. Save me the bother of an FOI (Freedom of Information) request by telling us yourself. I promise I won't laugh.


You can Laugh all you wish.

I do not have to post my Data to the Bloated BBC.

Of Course FOI
is one thing if you have a persons full name.


Sign Of The Times.

[ange7]

oh drats ... you win again arista

[arista]

Ofcom fines the Bloated BBC
with a mega fine for the J.Ross/Barand mess up.


And we the Public will pay that fine
as they use Our money of UK BBC tax payers
to pay it.

They should make Ross pay it on his own.


http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/BBC-Fine-Andrew-Sachs-Russell-Brand-Jonathan-Ross-Phone-Call-Scandal-Disciplined-By-Ofcom/Article/200904115255073?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15255073_BBC_Fine_Andrew_Sachs_Russell _Brand_Jonathan_Ross_Phone_Call_Scandal_Discipline d_By_Ofcom

[Sod_James]

Originally posted by arista
Ofcom fines the Bloated BBC
with a mega fine for the J.Ross/Barand mess up.


And we the Public will pay that fine
as they use Our money of UK BBC tax payers
to pay it.

They should make Ross pay it on his own.



Bloody terrible. i work hard for my money and they use it to pay a fine cos a pressenter cant hold his tongue.

Even if Ross did pay for it it would probably be like a drop in the ocean to him anyway.

[Brekkie]

To be fair they saved £1.5m by suspending him, so we are £1.35m in profit.

[arista]

Originally posted by Brekkie
To be fair they saved £1.5m by suspending him, so we are £1.35m in profit.


Not Fair Enough
Sack Him.

[andyman]

Arista, do you agree with the BBC? Should it be ditched?

[ange7]

Originally posted by Sod_James
Originally posted by arista
Ofcom fines the Bloated BBC
with a mega fine for the J.Ross/Barand mess up.


And we the Public will pay that fine
as they use Our money of UK BBC tax payers
to pay it.

They should make Ross pay it on his own.



bl***y terrible. i work hard for my money and they use it to pay a fine cos a pressenter cant hold his tongue.

Even if Ross did pay for it it would probably be like a drop in the ocean to him anyway.
so either way you can have a good moan about it. lol it's a win win for you!

[NettoSuperstar!]

The Bloated BBC are government controlled according to Arista athehthehthehthehtheh...Boutros Boutros Ghali

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Brekkie
To be fair they saved £1.5m by suspending him, so we are £1.35m in profit.


Not Fair Enough
Sack Him.
so flush £1.35m down the toilet? ...for the sake of what looked to me like the biggest skank in the UK? Aren't you the dude that went on about how tough it is in the UK with your Pound for under a meal thread? lol... didn't think you were serious about that.

[ange7]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
The Bloated BBC are government controlled according to Arista athehthehthehthehtheh...Boutros Boutros Ghali
yeah by New Labour who coincidently are responsible for the "depression", G20 riots and now the Strasbourg riots... according to Arista.
ps spotted a random fast show reference there... what's that about?

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Arista, do you agree with the BBC? Should it be ditched?


The BBC should give me the right to "Not Pay" for it.
Thats why I hate them.


The BBC Tax
is Well Out Dated.

The BBC Company
makes billions on DVD sales and selling shows abroad,
they can stand up on their own two feet.


Taking BBC Tax Money in the Multi Channel age
is criminal , in my view.

They ain't worthy.

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Apr/Week1/15255479.jpg

Yes Make Ross pay it.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
The Bloated BBC are government controlled according to Arista athehthehthehthehtheh...Boutros Boutros Ghali
yeah by New Labour who coincidently are responsible for the "depression", G20 riots and now the Strasbourg riots... according to Arista.
ps spotted a random fast show reference there... what's that about?

the TV station on fast show athehthehthehtheh

[Tom]

Match of the Day and Family Guy are worth the license fee alone, anything else is just filler and any left over money ... I don't care how its spent

In telly terms £135,000 is nothing at all

Apparently one episode of The Apprentice costs £250,000 to make and if X Factor results went live on a Sunday it would cost ITV another £500,000.

Puts it into perspective really, its nothing. and arista you aren't the only one paying for the BBC so please, shut up about it.

You also do have the right to not pay, get rid of your license if it means that much to you.

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom


You also do have the right to not pay, get rid of your license if it means that much to you.


If I watch just Ch4 , ITV and Sky only
I still have to pay the out dated BBC Tax.
Fact.



Tom you do not know what you are on about.

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom


You also do have the right to not pay, get rid of your license if it means that much to you.


If I watch just Ch4 , ITV and Sky only
I still have to pay the out dated BBC Tax.
Fact.



Tom you do not know what you are on about.

Don't watch TV

Or just chance it, they'll never catch up with you anyway, the detector vans aren't real you know

or get rid of your tv and watch everything online, you don't need a license fee for that

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom


You also do have the right to not pay, get rid of your license if it means that much to you.


If I watch just Ch4 , ITV and Sky only
I still have to pay the out dated BBC Tax.
Fact.



Tom you do not know what you are on about.

Don't watch TV

Or just chance it, they'll never catch up with you anyway, the detector vans aren't real you know

or get rid of your tv and watch everything online, you don't need a license fee for that




I watch TV
ITV , Ch4 and Sky Movies (no ads in them)
I should have the right to not pay for the BBC.


They are catching people if your on their Data
they check to see if you have a TV.


Those watching BBC Live Online
will soon have to get the BBC Tax.
That is new .

[arista]

What stinks about the BBC
is right now Peak time 5:25PM saturday
another Repeat 'hole in the wall'.


They said they would stop repeats on BBC1
in peak times,
but every other day they break their word.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
What stinks about the BBC
is right now Peak time 5:25PM saturday
another Repeat 'hole in the wall'.


They said they would stop repeats on BBC1
in peak times,
but every other day they break their word.

We hate "repeats" too arista. ie we've heard ALL this before

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
What stinks about the BBC
is right now Peak time 5:25PM saturday
another Repeat 'hole in the wall'.


They said they would stop repeats on BBC1
in peak times,
but every other day they break their word.

What about those of us who like repeats?

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom


What about those of us who like repeats?


Just go to BBC3 any night loads of Repeats 'all the time.'


At Peak times
Repeats on 'BBC1' were mean't to be stopped.

The Bloated BBC go back on their word far to much.



And Down Under
so freaking what if you get repeats
you are Lucky I pay for you
you bugger.

[ange7]

"And Down Under
so freaking what if you get repeats
you are Lucky I pay for you
you bugger."
:P ...dare I ask what this means?....no I don't...

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom


What about those of us who like repeats?


Just go to BBC3 any night loads of Repeats 'all the time.'


At Peak times
Repeats on 'BBC1' were mean't to be stopped.

The Bloated BBC go back on their word far to much.



And Down Under
so freaking what if you get repeats
you are Lucky I pay for you
you bugger.

You pay for me? Excuse me?

[andyman]

:whistle: I did that coz wanna be smug..


The BBC are great value for money, plus because they don't have to chase ad revenue (make programs just for ratings!) they can make programs for all tastes, funny drama to a roman history program.. Plus the BBC support new talent, always have done.

Arista i know you don't want to pay your licence but if we had the option not to pay plenty of people would not pay the licence fee, then the BBC would become ad funded or kept afloat with donations, none would do british tv any good..
All the channels and radio stations we get for that small fee is great value for money..

[Tom]

arista, do you realise the impact the license fee has on TV?

With no license fee, both BBC1 and ITV1 would be competing for advertisers

ITV are already struggling as it is, as are Channel 4 and five

Channel 4 and five would get less advertisers because they'd all be going to BBC1 and ITV1

Then the biggest digital channels would get all the revenue from advertisers for smaller channels

Smaller channels would go bust, some big digital channels would close and the main five would struggle

We'd end up with more repeats and more cheap TV like Cops With Cameras.

Would you basically sacrifice all of TV just to stop paying license fee?

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom


What about those of us who like repeats?


Just go to BBC3 any night loads of Repeats 'all the time.'


At Peak times
Repeats on 'BBC1' were mean't to be stopped.

The Bloated BBC go back on their word far to much.



And Down Under
so freaking what if you get repeats
you are Lucky I pay for you
you bugger.

You pay for me? Excuse me?


Down Under
I pay for the BBC
Ange watches
nothing to do with You Tom.

[andyman]

Arista blocks out the truth for "his truths"

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Arista blocks out the truth for "his truths"


The Truth is
The BBC Tax is out dated in this Multi Channel age.

I should be permitted to "not" have to pay for the BBC.


"The BBC Company
makes billions on DVD sales and selling shows abroad,
they can stand up on their own two feet."

[andyman]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by andyman
Arista blocks out the truth for "his truths"


The Truth is
The BBC Tax is out dated in this Multi Channel age.

I should be permitted to "not" have to pay for the BBC. Did you see Tom's post? What do you think of what he wrote?

[Tom4784]

The truth is Arista blocks out any valid arguments...

[arista]

Originally posted by Dezzy
The truth is Arista blocks out any valid arguments...



Everyone can be Valid
but in the UK many want No BBC tax.


They can stand on there own two feet.

It is a Out Dated Tax.


What Tom wrote is his view
not mine.
Take away the Tax
the BBC goes on,
it would not be the end of the Bloated BBC.

[andyman]

Arista are you some 80s movie robot on meltdown?

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Arista are you some 80s movie robot on meltdown?


Stay on Topic
No time for Clowns.

[andyman]

So how does the BBC continue without the licence fee?.. Hmm.

Arista you have not thought this through, it seems you like the idea of ending the licence fee but your idea is only valid in your head, the romance of it has dented any real logic to back up your views.

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
So how does the BBC continue without the licence fee?.. Hmm.

Arista you have not thought this through, it seems you like the idea of ending the licence fee but your idea is only valid in your head, the romance of it has dented any real logic to back up your views.


BBCAmerica is a example.


SkyMovies is a great Example
no ads in the Film.
So for example Marmite sponsers BBC Eastenders,
product placement permitted as well.
Only Stupid New Labour block product placement.


http://snackspot.org.uk/images/marmiteBreadsticks.jpg


Loads of Logic that works

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom


What about those of us who like repeats?


Just go to BBC3 any night loads of Repeats 'all the time.'


At Peak times
Repeats on 'BBC1' were mean't to be stopped.

The Bloated BBC go back on their word far to much.



And Down Under
so freaking what if you get repeats
you are Lucky I pay for you
you bugger.

You pay for me? Excuse me?


Down Under
I pay for the BBC
Ange watches
nothing to do with You Tom.

If its nout to do with me then why quote me?

Also I'd love to hear your thoughts on what would happen with TV in terms of advertising ... funny how you skipped that post

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom


What about those of us who like repeats?


Just go to BBC3 any night loads of Repeats 'all the time.'


At Peak times
Repeats on 'BBC1' were mean't to be stopped.

The Bloated BBC go back on their word far to much.



And Down Under
so freaking what if you get repeats
you are Lucky I pay for you
you bugger.

You pay for me? Excuse me?


Down Under
I pay for the BBC
Ange watches
nothing to do with You Tom.

If its nout to do with me then why quote me?

Also I'd love to hear your thoughts on what would happen with TV in terms of advertising ... funny how you skipped that post




That bit was a bonus for Ange
'Down Under '
is the Key for that.

I put the ads idea in a Andyman reply.


Nit picking

[andyman]

.....Product placement... So nearly every bbc program will become full of ads, plus the money will not be enough! Again you have not thought this through, your day dreaming too much in your anti-bbc fantasy.

Glad to say that it will stay a fantasy.. :bigsmile:

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
.....Product placement... So nearly every bbc program will become full of ads, plus the money will not be enough! Again you have not thought this through, your day dreaming too much in your anti-bbc fantasy.

Glad to say that it will stay a fantasy.. :bigsmile:


Gives them more power to stay afloat.
No dreams
The Future.

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom


What about those of us who like repeats?


Just go to BBC3 any night loads of Repeats 'all the time.'


At Peak times
Repeats on 'BBC1' were mean't to be stopped.

The Bloated BBC go back on their word far to much.



And Down Under
so freaking what if you get repeats
you are Lucky I pay for you
you bugger.

You pay for me? Excuse me?


Down Under
I pay for the BBC
Ange watches
nothing to do with You Tom.

If its nout to do with me then why quote me?

Also I'd love to hear your thoughts on what would happen with TV in terms of advertising ... funny how you skipped that post




That bit was a bonus for Ange
'Down Under '
is the Key for that.

I put the ads idea in a Andyman reply.


Nit picking

You still don't really answer it or have a response. I want to see what your thoughts are head on, not going around it all

Its all good saying you'd do this and do that but would it work in reality?

[arista]

The BBC is making plans for the Day the BBC tax goes.
It is well out dated now.

[Tom]

Still not answering my point :whistle:

I'm not letting it go ... and if you do then I just take it as you have no answer and it kind of undermines your whole argument really

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
Still not answering my point :whistle:

I'm not letting it go ... and if you do then I just take it as you have no answer and it kind of undermines your whole argument really


Nothing to let go.

Sky Movies Example
no Ads in the feature.

So for example Marmite sponsers BBC Eastenders.

The BBC makes big money
from worldwide deals
DVD sales and products , toys etc
so much now.


They will be able to stand on their own feet.

This BBC tax was not meant for this Multi Channel age.
It is out dated, the BBC know that , but keep plans ready
because this BBC tax is wrong and will go.

[Tom]

Sponsorship money is nowhere near enough to sustain the entire BBC network

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
Sponsorship money is nowhere near enough to sustain the entire BBC network


They have enough worldwide money flowing in,
everything has to change
that is the way life goes.

[andyman]

Where is the source about the end of the licence fee?
Plus do you have a source with the info how the bbc network will "stand on it's own feet" or did you dream of this?

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Where is the source about the end of the licence fee?
Plus do you have a source with the info how the bbc network will "stand on it's own feet" or did you dream of this?

Nothing is a dream.

Any Source can not be printed.

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom
Sponsorship money is nowhere near enough to sustain the entire BBC network


They have enough worldwide money flowing in,
everything has to change
that is the way life goes.

But the worldwide projects have to be supported by the money made by them. Otherwise there is no point if they're making a rubbish profit and they might as well close

Its basically the same as telling a commercial broadcaster to put funding from one channel into another few channels

[arista]

But they Sell 80%
of UK productions making big profits.
And many other area's are now being marked to bring in funding.


Again
it will change
it is not the end of the BBC.
But they will no longer be Bloated with UK Tax money.

[andyman]

Arista is dreaming.. The bbc works fine, the bbc knows that, the government knows that and so do the licence payers, nothing will change!

What arista has posted is a joke! If the mad raving green looney party get into power then arista's anti-bbc dream could happen... Fair to say it will never happen!







The Real World.

[arista]

Change has to come
for everything around the BBC
you can see it as dreams andyman
that is your problem, not mine.


I do not Joke about
the Future of the BBC.

[Tom]

But change isn't needed and it isn't necessary

Well if you can't see the bigger picture change isn't needed. The license fee does not just affect the BBC. Heads of other broadcasters support the license fee because they know how it will affect their own companies.

Also you don't pay for what ange watches in Australia, BBC Worldwide funds itself through its worldwide channels, sales of BBC formats and UKTV channels. That isn't enough to support BBC1-4, BBC News, Parliament and all the radio channels.

[arista]

Sure BBC Worldwide takes over
after I funded Ange's BBC content.

Also
UKTV channels are only half funded by the commercial BBC
and they show a great deal of many products , of course.


They will make the Funding cover it all
no more Bloated BBC.

[Tom]

According to Wikipedia they made a profit of £108m last year which is relatively small in TV land

We fund the programmes to be shown in the UK, they are then sold worldwide, as are a lot of shows not funded by us because they're from independent production companies

[arista]

Yes like Endemol make the Weakest Link
but then Endemol are paid by BBC
who we the UK public fund.


The BBC is changing all the time.

[Tom]

BBC Worldwide buy shows such as Footballers Wives and sell those worldwide, thats what I was on about not what is shown over here

[arista]

Yes BBCAmerica buys Primeval from ITV
to show on there USA channel
I am aware of all these areas
but it does not stop the well out dated
BBC UK Tax going
in the near future.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom


What about those of us who like repeats?


Just go to BBC3 any night loads of Repeats 'all the time.'


At Peak times
Repeats on 'BBC1' were mean't to be stopped.

The Bloated BBC go back on their word far to much.



And Down Under
so freaking what if you get repeats
you are Lucky I pay for you
you bugger.

You pay for me? Excuse me?


Down Under
I pay for the BBC
Ange watches
nothing to do with You Tom.
for the record bbc world tv isn't free here is Australia. To access you have to PAY for cable tv and get it bundled with other channels like cnn etc. The idea that somehow Brits are subsidising my bbc viewing is therefore a joke. Even more so given that I don't personally subscribe to it. Secondly world service TV is used by brit governments to further the world's cultural understanding of things British and to further ideals like democracy . Many countries produce TV made specially for world consumption eg DW tv in Germany, voice of America from the US etc. The ends served are those of the nations ( and therefore their citizens...ie YOU Arista) and not just my personal viewing pleasure. The idea that I somehow ought to thank you Arista for the BBC and it's pro British propaganda is kind of funny. But not "ha ha" funny. PS we have the ABC.. government funded and modeld on your BBC and we're VERY proud of it but it doesn't hold a candle to your BBC. The idea that you hate the BBC so much is really surprising and kind of shows your lack of appreciation for the role an independeant, non-commercial media outlet plays in a modern democracy. Look up "the fourth estate" and
find out what your really calling for instead of repeating your catchphrases that pretend to be arguments.

[arista]

Yes Ange You pay a little
We here in the UK pay a great deal.


Also the UK BBC is now getting Commercial,
Outsources every show.
They were once a fair company
but now as a Massive Comercial UK BBC (selling BBC products)
Yank BBC
and our BBCTV
it is not how you see it ange.


Thats why the whole J.Ross/Brand thing went down
as the BBC permitted the Commercial side
'Brands Production Company' to have total control
above the BBC Radio staff/BBC Internet staff.
That was shown on a lIve feed.


Conflicts Of Interest.
BBC 2009.

[pinkmichk]

with the brand/ross thing there was only about 40 complaints til the press reported it then hundreds jumped on the complaining bandwagon
and arista if the fee bothers you that much dont pay it will be you in trouble at end of it christ i'm a single mum on benefits and i pay it it bugs me but i pay it bbc3 alone pays for it for me

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
with the brand/ross thing there was only about 40 complaints til the press reported it then hundreds jumped on the complaining bandwagon
and arista if the fee bothers you that much dont pay it will be you in trouble at end of it christ i'm a single mum on benefits and i pay it it bugs me but i pay it bbc3 alone pays for it for me


Yes The Press had a Right to Attack
Ross/Brand shown Live in BBC Internet
and on BBC Radio.


The Fee
the Out Dated BBC Tax
has to be paid.
If you are on their system
you can not get off - unless you Die.

[pinkmichk]

but the thing about the brand ross thing most of the people who complained after the press reported it hadnt even heard it apart from youtube

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
but the thing about the brand ross thing most of the people who complained after the press reported it hadnt even heard it apart from youtube


Sure but what they said was written
everyone found out
even Brown had to talk about it.


And the reason Ross/Brand did that was due
to BBC not having control of it.
Outside Brand Production Company
had total contol.


Conflicts Of Interests
BBC 2009.

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
Yes Ange You pay a little
We here in the UK pay a great deal.


Also the UK BBC is now getting Commercial,
Outsources every show.
They were once a fair company
but now as a Massive Comercial UK BBC (selling BBC products)
Yank BBC
and our BBCTV
it is not how you see it ange.


Thats why the whole J.Ross/Brand thing went down
as the BBC permitted the Commercial side
'Brands Production Company' to have total control
above the BBC Radio staff/BBC Internet staff.
That was shown on a lIve feed.


Conflicts Of Interest.
BBC 2009.

We don't pay for BBC Worldwide therefore we don't pay for the BBC that ange gets!

The shows we do pay for, but to broadcast here in the UK. BBC Worldwide is just a subsidiary that sells these shows on to other countries but in turn makes very little profit that would only just keep a digital channel afloat.

[arista]

You are wrong some of the BBC money goes into Commercial BBC UK division
they are debating it now.


They are considering
BBC Online to go Commercial.
they have many ideas.


The BBC will change
and have Ads
so Digital Channels go on.
They are making plans
for when they are no longer
under well out dated UK BBC Tax funding.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7613938.stm

play this video.
They will not touch him
as it opens a Debate that the BBC are scared of.

[Tom]

But its still not enough (the money that goes from BBC Worldwide)

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
But its still not enough (the money that goes from BBC Worldwide)

The whole company will change
Money will be worked out
or they Die.


This Video is
a Star the BBC will not touch
as he will get it into a mega public debate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7613938.stm

[arista]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JC7T4XSPL._SS500_.jpg


Books are now out about this Mega change that has to come.


Tom you keep on saying not enough money,
OK we do not agree.



http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs018.snc1/2640_1052509233995_1263715113_30132834_7162340_n.j pg


"North argues that broadcasters are crippled by the
requirement to be impartial. Instead of being neutered but perpetually
dissindent, they need the freedom to be partisan and even positive"

[Tom]

But where is the money going to come from? If its commercial then its going to have a knock on effect on the rest of TV

If you can't see that then you're thick

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
But where is the money going to come from? If its commercial then its going to have a knock on effect on the rest of TV

If you can't see that then you're thick


No one is thick (no need for that)
I put a book up and you want insults
that is the wrong way to debate Young Tom.

by the time the BBC goes commercial
all other channels would have changed.

This is a well out of date BBC tax
they have to change.


We do not agree Tom.

[Tom]

I'd appreciate it if you wasn't so patronising, old arista.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JC7T4XSPL._SS500_.jpg


Books are now out about this Mega change that has to come.


Tom you keep on saying not enough money,
OK we do not agree.



http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs018.snc1/2640_1052509233995_1263715113_30132834_7162340_n.j pg


"North argues that broadcasters are crippled by the
requirement to be impartial. Instead of being neutered but perpetually
dissindent, they need the freedom to be partisan and even positive"
well then he's a fool. Journalism should be impartial and neutral and not one sided. If I want editorialising and "opinion" then I know where to go for that.From news I want facts not spin and journalist NOT taking sides. Saying "freedom to be partisan and even positive" makes ZERO sense in any way you choose to look at it. Are you saying you'd like your news outlets to editorialise and spin news?... lol what kind of a freedom is that? It's less a freedom and more a noose around their necks as they'll need to create content that follows the lines of media owners. You want that for the BBC? I don't think you appreciate the role the BBC plays in a modern democracy. ...."freedom to be partisan" .... proves it.

[Tom]

^ arista doesn't understand the power the media have when influencing opinions

he always links to the daily mail which says it all about his arguments

[andyman]

I don't think arista is human... Like i said before i think he might be some 80s movie robot.. :sad:

[ange7]

Originally posted by andyman
I don't think arista is human... Like i said before i think he might be some 80s movie robot.. :sad:
"danger! bloated BBC Danger!!"
http://yaflamingalah.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/lost_in_space_robot_body_1_2_2004.jpg

[andyman]

hahaha :bigsmile: dam robot!

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
I'd appreciate it if you wasn't so patronising, old arista.




Tom just because you are Young Tom
it does not mean you do not understand
all this.
Far from it , you understand it better
than older andyman.




Sign Of The Times.

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
^ arista doesn't understand the power the media have when influencing opinions

he always links to the daily mail which says it all about his arguments



Again I do not
read the Daily Mail,
I read the Guardian Newspaper.

But on here for young folk
the Mail photos are ideal
and the Articles are easier
for all to read - for impact reasons.

Life In The City.

[Tom]

In other words you want to get your point across to younger people and you'll do that by using the Daily Mail because its more convincing (for your side of the argument) than other papers?

Tbh I don't think age should come into anything

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
In other words you want to get your point across to younger people and you'll do that by using the Daily Mail because its more convincing (for your side of the argument) than other papers?

Tbh I don't think age should come into anything

No I know for fact
that the Mail Site
and Pictures are second to none
so for the many folks that read my threads
get a Bang On Point.
Because some that view threads are very busy.


Tom I can see you are very Bright
I agree it is wrong to put folks in boxes
at times, but I am not doing my post to down
anyone.

Thanks Tom
for keeping this thread Alive and kicking.

I am In Central London now
all this week
and I hope to find out more
on the Future Of The BBC
and Product Placement systems.

[Tom]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by andyman
I don't think arista is human... Like i said before i think he might be some 80s movie robot.. :sad:
"danger! bloated BBC Danger!!"
http://yaflamingalah.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/lost_in_space_robot_body_1_2_2004.jpg

lmao!!

I'm starting to like you

[arista]

Yes I agree Tom
I also Like
Down Under Ange.




Life In The Fast Lane.

[ange7]

lol ... you 2 are the closest I have to a real "enemy". hehe lets not spoil it by getting all chummy :P