Another nail in Youtube's coffin: Music videos pulled in Germany

[Scarlett.]

Following Warner's decision to pull its premium music videos from video-hosting site YouTube, the distributor has decided that enough is enough and is removing any amateur footage that features its music.

This is not the first time that amateur movies featuring copyrighted tracks have disappeared or – even worse – turned mute, but Warner is now recalling 'tens of thousands of tracks', according to a lawyer from the Electric Frontier Foundation (EFF).

Sharing the frustration

Warner spokesperson Will Tanous has defended the move, saying: "We and our artists share the user community's frustration when content is unavailable.

"YouTube generates revenues from content posted by fans, which typically requires licenses from rights holders. Under the current process, we make YouTube aware of WMG content. Their content ID tool then takes down all unlicensed tracks, regardless of how they are used."

When Warner first announced its intention to pull content from the site back in December, it assured YouTube users it was a temporary measure and that it was "working actively to find a resolution with YouTube that would enable the return of our artists' content to the site."

With this new development, it looks like an agreement is still a long way from being reached.

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[Harry!]

Youtube is getting worse by the day....

[30stone]

Less and less people will go on it.

And it will either just become a thing of the past and another site will start, or they will make things avaliable soon.

[Lewis.]

Go back to having "Everything" On their. We want music videos! ANy petitions?

:pat:

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by Robin-Van-Perfect
Less and less people will go on it.

And it will either just become a thing of the past and another site will start, or they will make things avaliable soon. Aye, like how MySpace has been replaced by Facebook ect.

[Fom]

Yep, myspace died... it is just a matter of time until another video website gets bigger.

[Mrluvaluva]

Has anyone tried this website?

http://www.imeem.com/

[Harry!]

Originally posted by Fom
Yep, myspace died... it is just a matter of time until another video website gets bigger.

Daily Motion probs.

[Scarlett.]

Both of Google's super websites are failing >:]

[Dom:D]

:sad:

[arista]

When YouTube started it was for People to post on
so it will go on.


And it is Only the UK with this probem.

[Fom]

Originally posted by Madonna
Originally posted by Fom
Yep, myspace died... it is just a matter of time until another video website gets bigger.

Daily Motion probs.

Nah I can see it being a brand new website... same idea but with a new cool look, and some new feature. Like... live broadcasting or something.

[Scarlett.]

The UK is one of its main audiences...and we havent been treated well by them...people will soon realise there is other websites

[arista]

Originally posted by Chewy
The UK is one of its main audiences...and we havent been treated well by them...people will soon realise there is other websites


Sure - but you have to pay
on other sites.


This is a UK problem that could be fixed.

YouTube said the New amount per Video was Un Viable for them
Do you do Math?

[Scarlett.]

A new website will arrive...like how Youtube once was...independant

[*mazedsalv**]

This is absoloutley retarded, im sorry but its beyond a pisstake now!

[arista]

Originally posted by Chewy
A new website will arrive...like how Youtube once was...independant


Yes it is on the way now
You Pay to Download (all 4 main labels are with it)
or watch Free, with ads first.

[30stone]

Go on Metacafe.

Loads of videos on there.
Some Explicit content to.:tongue:

[Spike]

Its really annoying me now, youtube is becoming pointless to me.

[Harry!]

Also YouTube is making my computer slower and slower when I watch a video.

[arista]

Originally posted by Madonna
Also YouTube is making my computer slower and slower when I watch a video.


You need a new Aldi Medion Computer
more like.

[bronaaaa]

=O this mean we can't listen to ANY music ? :sad:

[Scarlett.]

Not any Warner Music (not sure what labels they own)

[Tom]

It all went downhill when Google bought it

[bronaaaa]

Originally posted by Chewy
Not any Warner Music (not sure what labels they own)

Darn :sad:

[Fom]

I think Warner control RCA, which is the biggest label. Including Kelly Clarkson :(

But I can watch videos on Virgin Media, PHEW!

[\PJ/]

Why don't you just buy music what a bunch of cheapskates.

[Tom]

Originally posted by PJ
Why don't you just buy music what a bunch of cheapskates.

Because some of us want to watch the videos?

[Scarlett.]

Plus not all of us are minted, we have other things to spend our money on

[Fom]

Originally posted by Chewy
Plus not all of us are minted, we have other things to spend our money on

agreed, some of us are students!

[arista]

Originally posted by PJ
Why don't you just buy music what a bunch of cheapskates.


I buy it

like Jeff Beck (Rock Guitarist)
Live at Ronnie Scotts Club London
on BluRay 5.1 DTS sound.

1080P HiDef Vision


The best in music and vision
which leaves YouTube miles away.



http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JeXMmLClL._SS500_.jpg


Sign Of The Times.

[\PJ/]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by PJ
Why don't you just buy music what a bunch of cheapskates.

Because some of us want to watch the videos?
Which you can buy.

[Scarlett.]

I buy an album if I like the artist, for example The Lighthouse Family, Scooter and Akon are artists CD's I have bought, I also buy the NOW albums

[Scarlett.]

Originally posted by PJ
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by PJ
Why don't you just buy music what a bunch of cheapskates.

Because some of us want to watch the videos?
Which you can buy. ..and we dont have the money to buy every music video we like

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by PJ
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by PJ
Why don't you just buy music what a bunch of cheapskates.

Because some of us want to watch the videos?
Which you can buy.

You NEVER watch music videos on Youtube then? If you say no then I bet you're lying. Why don't you go buy everything you listen to on the radio, on Youtube ETC and still see if your singing the same tune.

[Mrluvaluva]

"coughs"

http://www.imeem.com/midnightblue09/video/ull06O6b/leona-lewis-bleeding-love-music-video/

for example purposes only.

[Scarlett.]

html doesnt work on forums Bhaz :laugh:

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Chewy

html doesnt work on forums Bhaz :laugh:

Shut it Baccy! :tongue: Edits quickly. It was a social experiment!

Edit. Embedding codes work on mine. :tongue:

[\PJ/]

Originally posted by Muse
Originally posted by PJ
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by PJ
Why don't you just buy music what a bunch of cheapskates.

Because some of us want to watch the videos?
Which you can buy.

You NEVER watch music videos on Youtube then? If you say no then I bet you're lying. Why don't you go buy everything you listen to on the radio, on Youtube ETC and still see if your singing the same tune.
I never watch music videos on youtube(im lying)and your right about the radio.

[Scarlett.]

Mmmmm...I like the look of this imeem

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Chewy

Mmmmm...I like the look of this imeem

I did mention it on the first page. :rolleyes:

[Scarlett.]

Yeah, but your not that memorable :bored: :P

If only we could link other video sites videos

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Chewy

Yeah, but your not that memorable :bored: :P

If only we could link other video sites videos




"THWACK"!!!!!!

We need code!

[Scarlett.]

Yes we do :dazzler:

[Mrluvaluva]

When do we want it??!! :tongue:

[Scarlett.]

Now! :thumbs2:

[arista]

Originally posted by Fom
I think Warner control RCA, which is the biggest label. Including Kelly Clarkson :(

But I can watch videos on Virgin Media, PHEW!



No SonyBMG own RCA.
Now.

[Chri$]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Has anyone tried this website?

http://www.imeem.com/

OMG Thanks!

They have the whole new HQ Hannah Montana album on the front page!

:lovedup:

[Scarlett.]

At this rate, YouTube will have precious little music left. After blocking all music to UK users while demanding lower PRS fees, the video site is now yanking tunes in Germany, after the expiration of its contract with local royalty collector GEMA on Thursday.

The difference? GEMA's rates are 50 times more than even PRS', GooTube EMEA head Patrick Walker told Der Spiegel: "It's unprecedented in the history of music video streaming." While PRS charges £0.0022 per track, GEMA's standard on-demand music rate is €0.12 (£0.11) for every song up to five minutes, and more for longer tracks and those with ads. That seems to be at least a €120,000 bill for every million music streams.

GEMA tells Der Spiegel it had, in fact, offered YouTube a rate of just €0.01 per track - but says YouTube is not ready to give it the transparency it wants, in return, on its required repertoire. So it looks like the fragmentation of European copyright collection is scuppering this relationship, too. GEMA chief executive Harald Heker, in a release, said: "It is a fundamental clash between GEMA and Google/YouTube from. Other European companies, which are also use musical rights, are in the same difficult situation. GEMA represents 60,000 composers, authors and music publishers and the rights of more than a million copyright owners internationally whose works are used in Germany.

[Harry!]

Oh god, Now Germany takes the pinch.

[lily.]

imeem has a few artists who opt out of having whole songs on there. I've been a member there for years. Coldplay were one of the first ones to take legal action and they only feature 30 second clips of their tracks. There were others, but I can't recall off the top of my head.

Youtube will tank because of this. It's a sad day for skint music fans. :(