Abortion clinics are to advertise on tv

[arista]

This will be a bold step.

"But its plans were furiously
condemned last night by family campaigners"


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1164901/Government-plan-allow-abortion-condom-ads-television-year-olds.html

Sign Of The Times.

[30stone]

Parents will complain about abortion how its wrong and that im sure, until their daughter comes home and says shes pregnant then they will say she needs it.

Either way i think its a good thing, 14 - 15 year old girls that get pregnant, need a way out people can say how other people want a baby that cant have one, but how hard is it for a girl of that age to be pregnant for that long just to give it away.

[arista]

Yes it is a good thing.

[Novo]

I am Torn On this on We dont want Girls to think it is right to have an abortion because it's not but advertising might make it seem that way and it could happen a lot lot more.

[pinkmichk]

as someone who is against abortion full stop i have certain views over this anyway but this coupled with the morning after pill being now availiable via text and online are giving the wrong messages out to girls who are using them as a form of contraception because there isnt enough decent sex ed and so on so that should a girl be having sex young (again this is on the rise) she is going into it blinkered

[Fom]

I will personally complain if this advert airs.

[30stone]

Abortion clinics are to be allowed to advertise on television and radio for the first time.

I just saw it on the news it says its still in discussion they haven't said weather it will go ahead or not yet.

[arista]

Originally posted by Fom
I will personally complain if this advert airs.


Good For You.



Life In The Fast Lane.

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
as someone who is against abortion full stop i have certain views over this anyway but this coupled with the morning after pill being now availiable via text and online are giving the wrong messages out to girls who are using them as a form of contraception because there isnt enough decent sex ed and so on so that should a girl be having sex young (again this is on the rise) she is going into it blinkered


You can be against it.


But the Ad's should not effect you.

[Tom]

Abortion = wrong so I know I slate everyone who complains but I'd complain about this ...

[NettoSuperstar!]

Would you like an abortion with your big mac madam? lol

[andyman]

They will make a killing during the sales!

Buy 2 abortions get the 3rd FREE!!

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by pinkmichk
as someone who is against abortion full stop i have certain views over this anyway but this coupled with the morning after pill being now availiable via text and online are giving the wrong messages out to girls who are using them as a form of contraception because there isnt enough decent sex ed and so on so that should a girl be having sex young (again this is on the rise) she is going into it blinkered


You can be against it.


But the Ad's should not effect you.

of course its gonna effect me like i said and i see i'm not alone in this thinking i am against them completely there needs to be more focus on sex education and so on so it doesnt need to be at this point where should you so wish you can get a abortion as easy as ordering a take away i dont like complainers over things on tv and the like but if this airs i will also be complaining

[Nurse57]

I take it you have all fallen the Daily middle England they are taking all our jobs their all paedos hang them Mail?

The story is that they are looking at the whether they should let the advisery service advertise. Tis would include ALL sections of the advice they give, from birth control, having the baby and abortion. Giving all the advice for all the options.

Fom, I take it you have seen the ad that has not been made yet as you are so ready to complain?

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by andyman
They will make a killing during the sales!

Buy 2 abortions get the 3rd FREE!!

lol@bogof!...and agreed Nurse!

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk


of course its going to effect me like i said and i see i'm not alone in this thinking i am against them completely there needs to be more focus on sex education and so on so it doesnt need to be at this point where should you so wish you can get a abortion as easy as ordering a take away i dont like complainers over things on tv and the like but if this airs i will also be complaining


Ofcom likes debates.
But this is a Free Nation
we are not under any Catholic Rule or the like.

These ads are long
and they have taken care with them.

It is the right thing to do.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/26/article-1164901-0418BE51000005DC-373_233x269.jpg

As we have had many young problems.

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
Abortion = wrong so I know I slate everyone who complains but I'd complain about this ...


That is your Right.

And
There Is No God.



Life In The City.

[tiernanp40]

it would be good for little *****s who get pregers at about 13

[Novo]

Originally posted by tiernanp40
it would be good for little *****s who get pregers at about 13

I think An advert on how to keep your legs closed would be better for them

[NettoSuperstar!]

I dont think its right to be calling a 13 year old a *****! And what about telling the lads to put something on the end of it aswell! Or is it just down to the women!? tut tut

[Harry!]

Hpefuly there will be less teenage pregnancys then.

[Spike]

Good idea, should of happened much sooner
I don't see the point in complaining as the adverts will inform women about an option they may have not persuade them to have an abortion

[Sam]

It's a sensitive issue, so i don't need to see why it needs to be advertised.

Surely girls know their choices, this advert can only surely make abortion seem a good idea?

Hmm... i just don't see the necessity of it.

[arista]

Originally posted by Snig
It's a sensitive issue, so i don't need to see why it needs to be advertised.

Surely girls know their choices, this advert can only surely make abortion seem a good idea?

Hmm...


You are wrong
Many Girls have such strict Parents
they do not know about a choice.

[Tom4784]

I'm not particulary bothered either way. I'm very pro choice, If soemone wants an abortion I say let 'em have it. It's their choice.

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Snig
It's a sensitive issue, so i don't need to see why it needs to be advertised.

Surely girls know their choices, this advert can only surely make abortion seem a good idea?

Hmm...


You are wrong
Many Girls have such strict Parents
they do not know about a choice.

I think most parents would actually suggest an abortion or Adoption though. No parent would force children onto their daughters if they weren't prepared.

[Locke.]

Good idea, less kids born accidentally and less kids put in homes/adopted.

[pinkmichk]

if the parents were that strict surely the girl wouldnt be in the position of wanting one in the first place

[Sam]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Snig
It's a sensitive issue, so i don't need to see why it needs to be advertised.

Surely girls know their choices, this advert can only surely make abortion seem a good idea?

Hmm...


You are wrong
Many Girls have such strict Parents
they do not know about a choice.


If girls have strict parents surely they wouldn't listen to an advertisement. I know it's their own choice but surely they wouldn't go behind their parents back and do it? Not at the risk of them finding out

I don't see what it really achieves advertising on TV, increasing the number of abortions isn't the right way to to solve the problem of teenage pregnancies, not in my opinion anyway.

[30stone]

Wont solve the problem, because i doubt it will ever be solved but there will be less teenagers with ruined lives.

[John.]

It could make the under age pregnancy rate rise?

if you think about it, young people seeing abortion adverts on telly will get the wrong idea about it and think that it will be okay to have unprotected sex!

Abortion is the last step anyone can take to terminate a pregnancy.

Perhaps the Government should...
A) focus more on getting boys and girls carrying and using condoms,

B) getting girls on the pill.

All this before it starts idolising Abortion as a third form of contraception!

Anyone Agree/Disagree?

[arista]

Originally posted by Snig
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Snig
It's a sensitive issue, so i don't need to see why it needs to be advertised.

Surely girls know their choices, this advert can only surely make abortion seem a good idea?

Hmm...


You are wrong
Many Girls have such strict Parents
they do not know about a choice.


If girls have strict parents surely they wouldn't listen to an advertisement. I know it's their own choice but surely they wouldn't go behind their parents back and do it? Not at the risk of them finding out

I don't see what it really achieves advertising on TV, increasing the number of abortions isn't the right way to to solve the problem of teenage pregnancies, not in my opinion anyway.


Those New Adverts would be shown under Family Viewing times
and many Girls go behind there parents back
and many times - they have no choice but to.

[MrGaryy]

I'm quite against this. Although I am very much pro-choice, if someone have made the decision to abort they can easily find a clinic without and advert. Not to mention how many people are against it, it hardly needs to be plastered across their screens. I also fail to see how it could possibly be done tastefully.

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
if the parents were that strict surely the girl wouldnt be in the position of wanting one in the first place


They are the First
to get in trouble.

[arista]

Originally posted by MrGaryy
I'm quite against this. Although I am very much pro-choice, if someone have made the decision to abort they can easily find a clinic without and advert. Not to mention how many people are against it, it hardly needs to be plastered across their screens. I also fail to see how it could possibly be done tastefully.


The Health Results have found many young girls can not find
information.
That is why these Ads are being made.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Nurse57
I take it you have all fallen the Daily middle England they are taking all our jobs their all paedos hang them Mail?

The story is that they are looking at the whether they should let the advisery service advertise. Tis would include ALL sections of the advice they give, from birth control, having the baby and abortion. Giving all the advice for all the options.

Fom, I take it you have seen the ad that has not been made yet as you are so ready to complain?

Thats not the point, it will still be advertising that you can go and get an abortion, so people will think its OK to have unprotected sex because they'll be able to go and get rid of it.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by Muse
I'm not particulary bothered either way. I'm very pro choice, If soemone wants an abortion I say let 'em have it. It's their choice. I'm of the opinion:thumbs:

[Twilight]

Oh i wonder where 08marsh is Lol

[andyman]

Wonder if any are next to Mothercare?.. Mum walks into mothercare, see's the prices, leaves and goes next door..

[arista]

Originally posted by Twilight
Oh i wonder where 08marsh is Lol


Yes
where is 08marsh?

[Twilight]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Twilight
Oh i wonder where 08marsh is Lol


Yes
where is 08marsh? Who knows :laugh2:

[Fom]

If the advert is saying anything along the lines of 'It is OK to have an abortion' then I will complain, even if they hint it, I don't see why it should be sugar coated to make it look like its acceptable. It is like putting on an advert for christianity, it is against a large section of this countries beliefs... so why would you do it?

And ruin teenagers lives? If they got in the situation, then to be fair they had it coming. Keep your legs closed until you are mature enough to handle the consequences.

[letmein]

Originally posted by .Andy.
I am Torn On this on We dont want Girls to think it is right to have an abortion because it's not but advertising might make it seem that way and it could happen a lot lot more.

Not WE, YOU! There's nothing wrong with having an abortion and it's nobody's business.

[letmein]

Originally posted by Fom
I will personally complain if this advert airs.
And the public will tell you to shut up. :spin2:

[letmein]

Originally posted by .Andy.
Originally posted by tiernanp40
it would be good for little *****s who get pregers at about 13

I think An advert on how to keep your legs closed would be better for them

It's none of your business.

[letmein]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
if the parents were that strict surely the girl wouldnt be in the position of wanting one in the first place

Uh, surely reality is exactly the opposite. Sometime I'll have to join you in Utopia.

[30stone]

Originally posted by andyman
Wonder if any are next to Mothercare?.. Mum walks into mothercare, see's the prices, leaves and goes next door..

Been Making Quality posts all weeks andy.

:laugh3::laugh2::laugh3::laugh2:

[Fom]

Originally posted by letmein
Originally posted by Fom
I will personally complain if this advert airs.
And the public will tell you to shut up. :spin2:

You need to learn not everyone looks at the world as you do, we have different opinions, different faiths and upbringings. As I said, they would not advertise a religion, so why advertise one part of a very serious argument in this country. Its bonkers, if girls are so desperate to get an abortion, they will find out how.
By advertising it you are just making it commercial and making it look like its the in thing to do, even if its saying 'You shouldnt do this but here is the number just in case' it will have an effect, its like advertising cigarettes and going 'You shouldn't really smoke this but here are the shops you can buy it in just in case...'

I agree with Michelle on this one, stop spending money on this and spend more money on safe sex adverts, condoms when used correct will solve a lot of these problems, an implant from the doctors or the pill can also stop this. But aborting it while its already developing? (Delving into my opinion on abortion here, I digress)

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Fom
It is like putting on an advert for christianity, it is against a large section of this countries beliefs... so why would you do it?

Atheists run adverts stating there is no God, so isn't that the same thing.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by andyman
Wonder if any are next to Mothercare?.. Mum walks into mothercare, see's the prices, leaves and goes next door..

Kind of pathetic and sick you can make jokes about killing unborn children.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Locke
Good idea, less kids born accidentally and less kids put in homes/adopted.

Yeah, let's kill all the toddlers when the nurseries are full eh.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Twilight]

Well here he is:rolleyes:

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Locke
Good idea, less kids born accidentally and less kids put in homes/adopted.

Yeah, let's kill all the toddlers when the nurseries are full eh.

:rolleyes::rolleyes: They are not the same thing:rolleyes:

[Fom]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Fom
It is like putting on an advert for christianity, it is against a large section of this countries beliefs... so why would you do it?

Atheists run adverts stating there is no God, so isn't that the same thing.

What on TV? If so I haven't seen it, and I am against it then if it is... I am atheist but no need to shove it in peoples faces.

[arista]

Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Fom
It is like putting on an advert for christianity, it is against a large section of this countries beliefs... so why would you do it?

Atheists run adverts stating there is no God, so isn't that the same thing.

What on TV? If so I haven't seen it, and I am against it then if it is... I am atheist but no need to shove it in peoples faces.


I think that is about the Bus ads.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Nurse57
I take it you have all fallen the Daily middle England they are taking all our jobs their all paedos hang them Mail?

The story is that they are looking at the whether they should let the advisery service advertise. Tis would include ALL sections of the advice they give, from birth control, having the baby and abortion. Giving all the advice for all the options.

Fom, I take it you have seen the ad that has not been made yet as you are so ready to complain?

So everyones ignored what Nurse has said is ACTUALLY going to happen! tut tut....Daily "hate" Mail have done their job again!

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by andyman
Wonder if any are next to Mothercare?.. Mum walks into mothercare, see's the prices, leaves and goes next door..

Heheh!

[lily.]

Originally posted by .Andy.
Originally posted by tiernanp40
it would be good for little *****s who get pregers at about 13

I think An advert on how to keep your legs closed would be better for them

I agree completely.

I'm not anti-abortion, but I think we are in danger of pimping out abortion as an alternative to birth control.

Obviously I know the risks involved in abortion, as I'm a 35 yr old mother of 2. But, the fear is that very young girls will be misinformed and will not be mature enough to see the difference between a condom and an abortion in terms of the long-term effects.

I don't know the full content of the ad, so I'd rather wait to see if it is more of an 'advisory service' ad, before I condemn it. I paid attention to Nurse's post Netto.. ;)

But, I do know that we need to be giving our kids facts, and ensuring that they know the consequences of their actions if they choose to be liberal with sex. Obviously, like most parents, I'd rather my child abstain, but in reality, I can't be there 24/7 to ensure she does. So, if she's armed with accurate information and good advice, she stands a better chance of making a good decision over a bad one.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Yeh I think its the advice and information that is needed from an early age on all aspects of sex/relationships/contraception/abortion....I'm sure thats what the ad will entail not "get your abortions here...bogof" lol

[Princess]

I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.

[arista]

Originally posted by Princess
I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.


They will be caring adverts
no one is saying it is quick fix.

And it Ain't Murder.


it is LEGAL.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Princess
I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.




And it Ain't Murder.




in your opinion and just cos its legal doesnt make it right

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk


in your opinion and just cos its legal doesnt make it right



No it is under our Laws of the UK
and I follow Legal Laws,
nothing to do with opinion.

[NettoSuperstar!]

A foetus hasnt a fully developed brain therefore hasnt developed a consciousness of self. "I think therefore I am". Can't call it murder! and I'm sure its not going to be that sort of ad thats says "come and get your abortions" quick fix solution!...the daily mail have picked out the sensationalist tit bit and ran with it as per

[Princess]

Well it's not legal in Ireland anyway.

[NettoSuperstar!]

I've just read up on it anyway...the ads are parental advice ads...advising on all aspects of preganancy/contraception/options etc. Anti abortion clinics are up in arms becuase they THINK it will lead to abortion clinics advertising on TV which is highly unlikely! The daily mail make a story out of nothing yet again!

...also these are just proposals

"Anti-abortion groups today attacked a proposal to allow TV ads giving pregnancy advice, arguing that the relaxation will lead to abortion clinics running commercials.

The proposal features in wide-ranging plans to shake up broadcast advertising, including the option of allowing condom commercials before the 9pm TV watershed, which were put out to public consultation today by the Broadcast Committee of Advertising Practice.

A spokesman for Bcap said that due to the referral process in the UK, under which women are usually referred by their GP or a hospital doctor, it was "unlikely" that abortion clinics would be advertising directly to consumers and flooding TV screens with commercials."




http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/mar/26/pregnancy-advice-advertising

[30stone]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
A foetus hasnt a fully developed brain therefore hasnt developed a consciousness of self. "I think therefore I am". Can't call it murder! and I'm sure its not going to be that sort of ad thats says "come and get your abortions" quick fix solution!...the daily mail have picked out the sensationalist tit bit and ran with it as per


Sorted end of argument. Netto got it in 1.

[30stone]

Originally posted by Twilight
Well here he is:rolleyes:

Lol you were just waiting for him lol.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Amen...no abortion clinics advertisin diddly!...Its more than likely because we dont give anough advice that the teenage pregnancy rates are so high anyway!!

[Nurse57]

Fom, You don't think the opinions of those that are pro choise (sp) should be aired but you say that there should be safe sex adverts. What about the people who think contaseption is wrong. You have now offended them.

Would you complain about an advert that said " if you are thinking of or having sexual relationships and have have any questions about sex, infections, safe sex, contraseption, pregnancy and your options, no mater what your age. Then come talk to the sexual health advisory service for free, confidential advice" ?

Because this is the sort of thing they are talking about. Not

"UP THE DUFF, THEN COME TO THE ABORTION WAREHOUSE, DARLY DALE, FENTON, MEASHAM AND NOW STOKE. OPEN SUNDAYS. credit terms on request."

[Twilight]

Originally posted by Robin-Van-Perfect
Originally posted by Twilight
Well here he is:rolleyes:

Lol you were just waiting for him lol. Yes i was:tongue:

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
A foetus hasnt a fully developed brain therefore hasnt developed a consciousness of self. "I think therefore I am". Can't call it murder! and I'm sure its not going to be that sort of ad thats says "come and get your abortions" quick fix solution!...the daily mail have picked out the sensationalist tit bit and ran with it as per

You can abort up to 24 weeks; a foetus is fully developed by that time. Some have been born around that time and have survived and lived a normal life.

[NettoSuperstar!]

^^Yeh maybe the limit needs lowering, but still, they are not a living independant being...and if theyre just coming out to a world of shite and misery...well I know which I'd choose

...Anyways off topic...theyre not going to advertise abortion clinics FACT, END OF!

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
^^Yeh maybe the limit needs lowering, but still, they are not a living independant being...and if theyre just coming out to a world of s**** and misery...well I know which I'd choose

...Anyways off topic...theyre not going to advertise abortion clinics FACT, END OF!



Time Will Tell on that.

[Tom]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
^^Yeh maybe the limit needs lowering, but still, they are not a living independant being...and if theyre just coming out to a world of s**** and misery...well I know which I'd choose

...Anyways off topic...theyre not going to advertise abortion clinics FACT, END OF!

Someone in a coma and on a life support machine- they can't think, by definition they aren't a living independent being. Are they still a living person who deserves to have no rights or right to life?

I don't think we can go around and brand people as this and that just because they haven't had (or got if you use my example) the chance to live on their own and it leads to loooooads of grey areas.

(Not attacking you/your opinion btw if thats how it comes across just questioning/comparing stuff to see how others view that)

[pinkmichk]

thats a good point tom plus a foetus has a heartbeat from around 6 weeks

[Fom]

Originally posted by Nurse57
Fom, You don't think the opinions of those that are pro choise (sp) should be aired but you say that there should be safe sex adverts. What about the people who think contaseption is wrong. You have now offended them.

Would you complain about an advert that said " if you are thinking of or having sexual relationships and have have any questions about sex, infections, safe sex, contraseption, pregnancy and your options, no mater what your age. Then come talk to the sexual health advisory service for free, confidential advice" ?

Because this is the sort of thing they are talking about. Not

"UP THE DUFF, THEN COME TO THE ABORTION WAREHOUSE, DARLY DALE, FENTON, MEASHAM AND NOW STOKE. OPEN SUNDAYS. credit terms on request."

Well thats not what this thread hints towards, I haven't researched into the whole idea but I was just having my opinion on what the thread was hinting towards. If they are advertising a place where you can go for confidential advice then why the hell does the title say... 'Abortion Clinics are to advertise on TV' giving out advice has nothing to with abortion.
Yes people after having advice might take up abortion, but what has the actual advert got to do with it?

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Locke
Good idea, less kids born accidentally and less kids put in homes/adopted.

Yeah, let's kill all the toddlers when the nurseries are full eh.

:rolleyes::rolleyes: They are not the same thing:rolleyes:

No, babies are not people at all are they? I should apologize for not agreeing that unborn children should be slaughtered.
Born or unborn it is a life

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Fom
It is like putting on an advert for christianity, it is against a large section of this countries beliefs... so why would you do it?

Atheists run adverts stating there is no God, so isn't that the same thing.

What on TV? If so I haven't seen it, and I am against it then if it is... I am atheist but no need to shove it in peoples faces.


I think that is about the Bus ads.

Yes, those too but there are also ones on TV.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Princess
I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.


They will be caring adverts
no one is saying it is quick fix.

And it Ain't Murder.


it is LEGAL.

It aint murder becuase it's legal? What?

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Robin-Van-Perfect
Originally posted by Twilight
Well here he is:rolleyes:

Lol you were just waiting for him lol.

Yes, as sad as she is.

[arista]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Princess
I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.


They will be caring adverts
no one is saying it is quick fix.

And it Ain't Murder.


it is LEGAL.

It aint murder becuase it's legal? What?


Correct in The UK it is all Legal
to Abort.

If it was "Murder"
they would be arrested
Fact.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Locke
Good idea, less kids born accidentally and less kids put in homes/adopted.

Yeah, let's kill all the toddlers when the nurseries are full eh.

:rolleyes::rolleyes: They are not the same thing:rolleyes:

No, babies are not people at all are they? I should apologize for not agreeing that unborn children should be slaughtered.
Born or unborn it is a life When did i say a baby wasn't a person and fetus can't feel pain:nono:

[Twilight]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Princess
I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.


They will be caring adverts
no one is saying it is quick fix.

And it Ain't Murder.


it is LEGAL.

It aint murder becuase it's legal? What?

If it was "Murder"
they would be arrested
Fact. I agree arista

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Robin-Van-Perfect
[quote]Originally posted by Twilight
Well here he is:rolleyes:

Lol you were just waiting for him lol.

Yes, as sad as she is. [/ quote] Wow look who talking:pat:

[inspector-frost]

eveyone has an opinion and a choice,there are some kids out there with no support,maybe no internet so could be another way of reaching another 'group' of teenager,
abortion is a really immotive subject and think its one of those things that you don't know what you'd do untill you were faced with it yourself.can't imagine its as easy and cold and calculated as all make out.some may act out of desperation-who knows!!!the 'mother' does have to live with decision for rest of life and thats if she even had the choice.i don't know

[Nurse57]

"Someone in a coma and on a life support machine"

A life suport machine can be turned off.

Fom, my point is that there are no plans for abortion adverts like the daily mail are claiming. They are doing there normal thing of twisting the story so their readers have something to get their pitchforks out for as they are moraly outraged. Be it claiming Trainspotting was pro drugs and should be banned. (the film had not been released at this point and if they had seen it they would not have seen a better anti drug film) or Grand theft auto is turning our teenagers in to murderers, and should be banned (even though they had not seen the game) all the way through to "Abortion adverts will get 10 year old girls prenant"

Even if you don't read the mail the fact that you have already stated you are going to complain means the Mail have done their job.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Princess
I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.


They will be caring adverts
no one is saying it is quick fix.

And it Ain't Murder.


it is LEGAL.

It aint murder becuase it's legal? What?


Correct in The UK it is all Legal
to Abort.

If it was "Murder"
they would be arrested
Fact.

Taking someone else's life = murder... FACT

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Princess
I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.


They will be caring adverts
no one is saying it is quick fix.

And it Ain't Murder.


it is LEGAL.

It aint murder becuase it's legal? What?

If it was "Murder"
they would be arrested
Fact. I agree arista

You don't know what you're talking about. The points you made in a previous thread on abortion all contradicted each other. I don't even think you know what you're debating about.

[arista]

We are Debating possible Ads of Abortion on TV.

[arista]

Originally posted by 08marsh


Taking someone else's life = murder... FACT



Wrong it is un born
and Aborting is Legal.
You lack understanding , yet again.

[Fom]

Originally posted by Nurse57
"Someone in a coma and on a life support machine"

A life suport machine can be turned off.

Fom, my point is that there are no plans for abortion adverts like the daily mail are claiming. They are doing there normal thing of twisting the story so their readers have something to get their pitchforks out for as they are moraly outraged. Be it claiming Trainspotting was pro drugs and should be banned. (the film had not been released at this point and if they had seen it they would not have seen a better anti drug film) or Grand theft auto is turning our teenagers in to murderers, and should be banned (even though they had not seen the game) all the way through to "Abortion adverts will get 10 year old girls prenant"

Even if you don't read the mail the fact that you have already stated you are going to complain means the Mail have done their job.

Fair do's, lets leave it at... if it happens I will complain, if it doesn't I won't complain. I am reacting to the idea of advertising the clinics themselves, if it is some helpline or something... then I am all for that.
Just a mis understanding, but I have stated my opinion if it's true.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Princess
I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.


They will be caring adverts
no one is saying it is quick fix.

And it Ain't Murder.


it is LEGAL.

It aint murder becuase it's legal? What?

If it was "Murder"
they would be arrested
Fact. I agree arista

You don't know what you're talking about. The points you made in a previous thread on abortion all contradicted each other. I don't even think you know what you're debating about. Oh wow look at some of your older posts and tell me your not contradicted each other here lookie here

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Princess
I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.


They will be caring adverts
no one is saying it is quick fix.

And it Ain't Murder.


it is LEGAL.

It aint murder becuase it's legal? What?

If it was "Murder"
they would be arrested
Fact. I agree arista

You don't know what you're talking about. The points you made in a previous thread on abortion all contradicted each other. I don't even think you know what you're debating about. Oh wow look at some of your older posts and tell me your not contradicted each other here lookie here

I have not contradicted, i've stuck with my views

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh


Taking someone else's life = murder... FACT



Wrong it is un born
and Aborting is Legal.
You lack understanding , yet again.

Lack understanding?
Aborting is Legal? That doesn't mean it isn't murder, it just means our government are disgusting (which looking at the news recently they are)
Unborn? And? A full term pregnancy is unborn yet it is still a baby.
Abortion is legal up to about 24 weeks, when the baby is almost completely fully formed. If you think that isn't murder then you have problems.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Princess
I think it's bad enough that they advertise plastic surgery but abortion?!?!?!. It's basically advertising murder. Which is just sick. If people need to have abortions than fine but to advertise it as an easy-fix solution is wrong,people should be more careful and not ever consider abortion as an 'easy option' because it really isn't.


They will be caring adverts
no one is saying it is quick fix.

And it Ain't Murder.


it is LEGAL.

It aint murder becuase it's legal? What?

If it was "Murder"
they would be arrested
Fact. I agree arista

You don't know what you're talking about. The points you made in a previous thread on abortion all contradicted each other. I don't even think you know what you're debating about. Oh wow look at some of your older posts and tell me your not contradicted each other here lookie here

I have not contradicted, i've stuck with my views Yeah right:rolleyes:

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh

I have not contradicted, i've stuck with my views

Yeah right:rolleyes:

Go on then when have i contradicted myself.
You seem to post a rolling eyes smilie every time i mention my disgust at abortion. I only reply to your post when i am challenging your argument which is the point of debate.
So instead of rolling your eyes why don't you accept others have different opinions and you might learn something.

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista


They will be caring adverts
no one is saying it is quick fix.

And it Ain't Murder.


it is LEGAL.

Was it murder when people got arrested for it when it was illegal just over 40 years ago?

[arista]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh


Taking someone else's life = murder... FACT



Wrong it is un born
and Aborting is Legal.
You lack understanding , yet again.

Lack understanding?
Aborting is Legal? That doesn't mean it isn't murder, it just means our government are disgusting (which looking at the news recently they are)
Unborn? And? A full term pregnancy is unborn yet it is still a baby.
Abortion is legal up to about 24 weeks, when the baby is almost completely fully formed. If you think that isn't murder then you have problems.



No problem here
it is Legal and Not murder.
Fact.

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh


Taking someone else's life = murder... FACT



Wrong it is un born
and Aborting is Legal.
You lack understanding , yet again.

Lack understanding?
Aborting is Legal? That doesn't mean it isn't murder, it just means our government are disgusting (which looking at the news recently they are)
Unborn? And? A full term pregnancy is unborn yet it is still a baby.
Abortion is legal up to about 24 weeks, when the baby is almost completely fully formed. If you think that isn't murder then you have problems.



No problem here
it is Legal and Not murder.
Fact.

Ending life = murder.
Fact.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh


Taking someone else's life = murder... FACT



Wrong it is un born
and Aborting is Legal.
You lack understanding , yet again.

Lack understanding?
Aborting is Legal? That doesn't mean it isn't murder, it just means our government are disgusting (which looking at the news recently they are)
Unborn? And? A full term pregnancy is unborn yet it is still a baby.
Abortion is legal up to about 24 weeks, when the baby is almost completely fully formed. If you think that isn't murder then you have problems.



No problem here
it is Legal and Not murder.
Fact.

Ending life = murder.
Fact.

Finaly someone joins the discussion who puts their brain into gear.

[James]

Posts deleted. Treat other members with respect, no personal insults. That is especially directed to 08marsh.

[Twilight]

So Marsh what was the 2 thread about then

[James]

I did that. I split the thread by mistake, instead of deleting the posts. Carry on... :)

[Twilight]

Originally posted by James
Posts deleted. Treat other members with respect, no personal insults. That is especially directed to 08marsh. Thank you James

[Twilight]

Originally posted by James
I did that. I split the thread by mistake, instead of deleting the posts. Carry on... :) oops hehe

[ange7]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh


Taking someone else's life = murder... FACT



Wrong it is un born
and Aborting is Legal.
You lack understanding , yet again.

Lack understanding?
Aborting is Legal? That doesn't mean it isn't murder, it just means our government are disgusting (which looking at the news recently they are)
Unborn? And? A full term pregnancy is unborn yet it is still a baby.
Abortion is legal up to about 24 weeks, when the baby is almost completely fully formed. If you think that isn't murder then you have problems.



No problem here
it is Legal and Not murder.
Fact.

Ending life = murder.
Fact.

Finaly someone joins the discussion who puts their brain into gear.
here's a surprise

[Tom]

wouldn't say it was putting my brain into gear tbh ... its just stating technicalities

i like how arista avoided the thing about when it was illegal though, was it murder then or not?

[arista]

It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.

[Twilight]

Its not murder

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.
so abortions are OK right up until the very last day before birth? That's what you just said.

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.

what about babies that have been born at 24 weeks and have survived to live a normal life, bearing in mind that you can have an abortion up until 24 weeks? are they not lives?

if you're going to say about how they can't survive on their own, what about people on life support machines? they can't survive on their own so are they not lives either?

[pinkmichk]

why has god been brought into this
they have a heartbeat from around 6 weeks and comparing it to the person on life support those who are in a complete coma so the machines doing everything for them they are also lives

[30stone]

For the first few weeks they are just parts of dna really, havent developed a brain or other organs yet.

I think once a brain and organs are developed you shouldnt be able to have an abortion because then it has a brain it can think its alive.

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.
so abortions are OK right up until the very last day before birth? That's what you just said.



Of Course
we are not a Catholic Nation here.



Sign Of The Times.

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.

what about babies that have been born at 24 weeks and have survived to live a normal life, bearing in mind that you can have an abortion up until 24 weeks? are they not lives?

if you're going to say about how they can't survive on their own, what about people on life support machines? they can't survive on their own so are they not lives either?


No they become a Life
when they are Born, only.


There Is No God.


Life In The Fast Lane.

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.
so abortions are OK right up until the very last day before birth? That's what you just said.



Of Course


Thats an awful view to have. What about premature babies who live fine? I'm sure there are loads on here.

But still, as ever, I love how you skip all of the technicalities in an argument just so you don't look (even more) daft

[Tom]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.

what about babies that have been born at 24 weeks and have survived to live a normal life, bearing in mind that you can have an abortion up until 24 weeks? are they not lives?

if you're going to say about how they can't survive on their own, what about people on life support machines? they can't survive on their own so are they not lives either?


No they become a Life
when they are Born, only.


There Is No God.


Life In The Fast Lane.

They're not a life even though they do normal human things such as sleep, show emotion etc?

[Harry!]

Abortion is wrong because you are getting rid of a life which would be loved and cherished. If people don't want babies don't have sex and use contraception instead. Or put the baby for adoption/foster care.

[arista]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.

what about babies that have been born at 24 weeks and have survived to live a normal life, bearing in mind that you can have an abortion up until 24 weeks? are they not lives?

if you're going to say about how they can't survive on their own, what about people on life support machines? they can't survive on their own so are they not lives either?


No they become a Life
when they are Born, only.


There Is No God.


Life In The Fast Lane.

They're not a life even though they do normal human things such as sleep, show emotion etc?




You can not Compare so much
as in the UK Abortion is Legal.

Times are Hard
Kids cost money
Its a Hard Life .

[pinkmichk]

my best friends baby was born at exactly 27 weeks so a little outside the abortion cut off but there isnt much difference between a 24 and a 27 weeker she will be 5 in august and apart from being a little on small side and being prone to every cough and cold going you wouldnt know she was born so early i also know of a 25 weeker who is just over 1
at the early stages they may just be the size of a pin head but they have a heartbeat which makes it a living thing from 6 weeks ish which is only 2 weeks after a missed period
i still dont understand why god has been brought into this yes i am c of e but that has no influence on why i disagree with abortion at any stage

[Twilight]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.
so abortions are OK right up until the very last day before birth? That's what you just said.



Of Course
we are not a Catholic Nation here.



Sign Of The Times. Sorry but abortions at that later time is sick and i'm happy its only allowed up to 24 weeks any later its sick:bored:

[30stone]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
my best friends baby was born at exactly 27 weeks so a little outside the abortion cut off but there isnt much difference between a 24 and a 27 weeker she will be 5 in august and apart from being a little on small side and being prone to every cough and cold going you wouldnt know she was born so early i also know of a 25 weeker who is just over 1
at the early stages they may just be the size of a pin head but they have a heartbeat which makes it a living thing from 6 weeks ish which is only 2 weeks after a missed period
i still dont understand why god has been brought into this yes i am c of e but that has no influence on why i disagree with abortion at any stage

How many weeks is it before a baby is born on average?

As my mate that joined up on here, was born 4 - 5 weeks early and had a lot wrong with him at birth, he used to be shorter than everyone but hes normal height now still smaller built though.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
So Marsh what was the 2 thread about then

What has that got to do with me? There you go again assuming i've done something. For gods sake grow up.

[Marsh.]

[quote]Originally posted by arista
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted

:rolleyes:
What? Of course they can be aborted, it's hardly going to put up a fight is it?
It's like saying 'oh, a new born is easily drowned, they won't be much hassle'. Doesn't make it right does it?

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.
so abortions are OK right up until the very last day before birth? That's what you just said.



Of Course
we are not a Catholic Nation here.



Sign Of The Times. Sorry but abortions at that later time is sick and i'm happy its only allowed up to 24 weeks any later its sick:bored:

You are a walking, talking contradiction. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista
No they become a Life
when they are Born, only.


So, you're saying there is a difference between a baby just before birth and after.
What makes the baby only a life after birth.
I had respect for your side of the debate but now i know you are just talking ****.
When you're coming out with statements like this it makes your argument void.

[arista]

Originally posted by 08marsh
[quote]Originally posted by arista
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted

:rolleyes:
What? Of course they can be aborted, it's hardly going to put up a fight is it?
It's like saying 'oh, a new born is easily drowned, they won't be much hassle'. Doesn't make it right does it?

But it is Right
and Legal in the UK.



Life In The City.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
[quote]Originally posted by arista
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted

:rolleyes:
What? Of course they can be aborted, it's hardly going to put up a fight is it?
It's like saying 'oh, a new born is easily drowned, they won't be much hassle'. Doesn't make it right does it?

But it is Right
and Legal in the UK.



Life In The City.

So it's legal in the UK.
Is that the only point you have to back up your stupid and pathetic, immature argument. And you call me ignorant.

edit: It baffles me how you can draw a distinction between babies just before birth and after.
So, killing the baby before birth is not murder and killing the baby after is murder? Is that what you're saying?

[arista]

I never said you were ignorant.


It is Aborting a Baby
Legal
And is done all over the UK.


Ads on TV would help.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
^^Yeh maybe the limit needs lowering, but still, they are not a living independant being...and if theyre just coming out to a world of s**** and misery...well I know which I'd choose

...Anyways off topic...theyre not going to advertise abortion clinics FACT, END OF!

Someone in a coma and on a life support machine- they can't think, by definition they aren't a living independent being. Are they still a living person who deserves to have no rights or right to life?

I don't think we can go around and brand people as this and that just because they haven't had (or got if you use my example) the chance to live on their own and it leads to loooooads of grey areas.

(Not attacking you/your opinion btw if thats how it comes across just questioning/comparing stuff to see how others view that)

no offence taken at all man....if the person on the life support machine has a chance of having their "life" resumed and have a good quality of life then fair its a different case. When a baby is just a bunch of cells and dna and not even developed a brain then I dont see the problem, its still just part of the woman and they should have the choice not to go through with developing that into a life. I guess its the point where we decide its a life thats debateable. I think the limit could be lowered bearing in mind babies can survive from that point though yes.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.
so abortions are OK right up until the very last day before birth? That's what you just said.



Of Course
we are not a Catholic Nation here.



Sign Of The Times. Sorry but abortions at that later time is sick and i'm happy its only allowed up to 24 weeks any later its sick:bored:

You are a walking, talking contradiction. :rolleyes::rolleyes: No i'm not i'm pro-choice but i'm not sick over 24 weeks is sick when did i say it wasn't

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista
I never said you were ignorant.


It is Aborting a Baby
Legal
And is done all over the UK.


Ads on TV would help.

Help what?
To get more babies killed?
Admin edit. No insults.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
I never said you were ignorant.


It is Aborting a Baby
Legal
And is done all over the UK.


Ads on TV would help.

Help what?
To get more babies killed?
You are a lowlife sorry marsh but i don't see how the ads world get babies killed

[NettoSuperstar!]

There are NO ADS!

[Twilight]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
There are NO ADS! Say what then why are we in here:conf2:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
There are NO ADS! Say what then why are we in here:conf2:

I know lol...bloody Daily Mail getting their facts wrong!

[arista]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
I never said you were ignorant.


It is Aborting a Baby
Legal
And is done all over the UK.


Ads on TV would help.

Help what?
To get more babies killed?
You are a lowlife


I am a poster on this Good site
You Keep calling/attacking other posters
that is wrong.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
There are NO ADS! Say what then why are we in here:conf2:

I know lol...bl***y Daily Mail getting their facts wrong! I will go kill Daily Mail now..lol

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
There are NO ADS! Say what then why are we in here:conf2:

I know lol...bl***y Daily Mail getting their facts wrong! I will go kill Daily Mail now..lol

I wish someone would!

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
I never said you were ignorant.


It is Aborting a Baby
Legal
And is done all over the UK.


Ads on TV would help.

Help what?
To get more babies killed?
You are a lowlife


A am a poster on this Good site
You Keep calling/attacking other posters
that is wrong.

Me attacking you?
You call me stupid, ignorant, say i have a lack of understanding? And you have no back up for your 'points'

And you say i'm attacking you? Awww, how long have you been out of the playground? Grow a pair

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
I never said you were ignorant.


It is Aborting a Baby
Legal
And is done all over the UK.


Ads on TV would help.

Help what?
To get more babies killed?
You are a lowlife


A am a poster on this Good site
You Keep calling/attacking other posters
that is wrong.

Me attacking you?
You call me stupid, ignorant, say i have a lack of understanding? And you have no back up for your 'points'

And you say i'm attacking you? Awww, how long have you been out of the playground? Grow a pair Yeah like you have a pair

[arista]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
I never said you were ignorant.


It is Aborting a Baby
Legal
And is done all over the UK.


Ads on TV would help.

Help what?
To get more babies killed?
You are a lowlife


A am a poster on this Good site
You Keep calling/attacking other posters
that is wrong.

Me attacking you?
You call me stupid, ignorant, say i have a lack of understanding? And you have no back up for your 'points'

And you say i'm attacking you? Awww, how long have you been out of the playground? Grow a pair


Wrong I never said Stupid Or Ignorant
you are Well confused.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
I never said you were ignorant.


It is Aborting a Baby
Legal
And is done all over the UK.


Ads on TV would help.

Help what?
To get more babies killed?
You are a lowlife


A am a poster on this Good site
You Keep calling/attacking other posters
that is wrong.

Me attacking you?
You call me stupid, ignorant, say i have a lack of understanding? And you have no back up for your 'points'

And you say i'm attacking you? Awww, how long have you been out of the playground? Grow a pair


Wrong I never said Stupid Or Ignorant
you are Well confused.

You have never called me stupid, ignorant or a bigot?
Ok, then :rolleyes:

[Marsh.]

Admin deleted.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.
so abortions are OK right up until the very last day before birth? That's what you just said.



Of Course
we are not a Catholic Nation here.



Sign Of The Times. Sorry but abortions at that later time is sick and i'm happy its only allowed up to 24 weeks any later its sick:bored:

You are a walking, talking contradiction. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[arista]

Originally posted by 08marsh


You have never called me stupid, ignorant or a bigot?
Ok, then :rolleyes:


No
And I am no lowlife.




Sign Of The Times.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
It is Not a Life
it is a Un Born
that is why they can be Aborted



Also
There Is No God.


Sign Of The Times.
so abortions are OK right up until the very last day before birth? That's what you just said.



Of Course
we are not a Catholic Nation here.



Sign Of The Times. Sorry but abortions at that later time is sick and i'm happy its only allowed up to 24 weeks any later its sick:bored:

You are a walking, talking contradiction. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

How is that 'attacking' you?
If you can't handle that, god help you in the real world.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by arista
I never said you were ignorant.


It is Aborting a Baby
Legal
And is done all over the UK.


Ads on TV would help.

Help what?
To get more babies killed?
You are a lowlife


A am a poster on this Good site
You Keep calling/attacking other posters
that is wrong.

Me attacking you?
You call me stupid, ignorant, say i have a lack of understanding? And you have no back up for your 'points'

And you say i'm attacking you? Awww, how long have you been out of the playground? Grow a pair Yeah like you have a pair

And i'm the one who the 'mods' say is 'attacking' everyone.
I'm sure you have a pair don't you Twilight t***. (BTW i've read your u2u to Madonna) Don't call me a t*** and how did you read them!

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Don't call me a t*** and how did you read them!

Sorry about calling you that.
About the u2u's.......... :dance2:

edit: (hint: try changing your password)

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Don't call me a t*** and how did you read them!

Sorry about calling you that.
About the u2u's.......... :dance2: Tell me now

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Don't call me a t*** and how did you read them!

Sorry about calling you that.
About the u2u's.......... :dance2: Tell me now

Have a look in your inbox

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Don't call me a t*** and how did you read them!

Sorry about calling you that.
About the u2u's.......... :dance2: Tell me now

Have a look in your inbox I did and your saying your going to broke in to my account

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Don't call me a t*** and how did you read them!

Sorry about calling you that.
About the u2u's.......... :dance2: Tell me now

Have a look in your inbox I did and your saying your going to broke in to my account

What is your problem. I have just said that i am sick of you accusing me of things and there you go again.
I have not once said that i am going to break into your account.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Don't call me a t*** and how did you read them!

Sorry about calling you that.
About the u2u's.......... :dance2: Tell me now

Have a look in your inbox I did and your saying your going to broke in to my account

What is your problem. I have just said that i am sick of you accusing me of things and there you go again.
I have not once said that i am going to break into your account. you said you'd better change it.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Don't call me a t*** and how did you read them!

Sorry about calling you that.
About the u2u's.......... :dance2: Tell me now

Have a look in your inbox I did and your saying your going to broke in to my account

What is your problem. I have just said that i am sick of you accusing me of things and there you go again.
I have not once said that i am going to break into your account. And i posted that before the u2u

[Marsh.]

You wanted me to tell you how i read your u2u's, and as a joke i said you'd better change your password. I didn't break into your account.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
You wanted me to tell you how i read your u2u's, and as a joke i said you'd better change your password. I didn't break into your account. as a joke:shocked:

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
You wanted me to tell you how i read your u2u's, and as a joke i said you'd better change your password. I didn't break into your account. as a joke:shocked:

You are a person? :shocked::shocked::shocked:

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
You wanted me to tell you how i read your u2u's, and as a joke i said you'd better change your password. I didn't break into your account. as a joke:shocked:

You are a person? :shocked::shocked::shocked: huh

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
You wanted me to tell you how i read your u2u's, and as a joke i said you'd better change your password. I didn't break into your account. as a joke:shocked:

You are a person? :shocked::shocked::shocked: huh

never mind. Let's end it here.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
You wanted me to tell you how i read your u2u's, and as a joke i said you'd better change your password. I didn't break into your account. as a joke:shocked:

You are a person? :shocked::shocked::shocked: Not a very funny one ):

[Twilight]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by Twilight
Originally posted by 08marsh
You wanted me to tell you how i read your u2u's, and as a joke i said you'd better change your password. I didn't break into your account. as a joke:shocked:

You are a person? :shocked::shocked::shocked: huh

never mind. Let's end it here. Ok

[arista]

The Big Question on BBC1
now it going to Debate Abortion Ads on TV
within the next hour.


Now Netto
you need to understand,
These Ads are possible that is why the BBC
is debating it.

Life In The City.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
The Big Question on BBC1
now it going to Debate Abortion Ads on TV
within the next hour.


Now Netto
you need to understand,
These Ads are possible that is why the BBC
is debating it.

Life In The City.
watch it and tell us if they're proposing actual ads from commercially run clinics or just government sponsored public health campaigns ( which aren't ads btw).

[arista]

In that Debate many agreed it should go forward,
as a Positive action.

Of Course there was a few people there as well
that were horrified with this idea.

[ange7]

commodification of health services is horrifying but are they talking about clinics advertising their services or are they talking about a simple government health warning that is taking the form of a TV campaign?

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
commodification of health services is horrifying but are they talking about clinics advertising their services or are they talking about a simple government health warning that is taking the form of a TV campaign?


It has finished now
they Debated Abotion Clinic Helpline Ads for TV.

[ange7]

helpline ads? .... that has nothing to do with this topic.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Theyre not proposing abortion clinic ads...theyre "proposing" general pregnancy advisory ads. The anti-abortion lobby just think it'll pave the way for that....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/mar/26/pregnancy-advice-advertising

[arista]

They have still to set this all up.
But it will help many girls.

[ange7]

so no one is calling for ads by clincs to advertise their services?... so what is this thread about then?... arista?... you said
"you need to understand,
These Ads are possible that is why the BBC
is debating it."

did you get it wrong?:tongue:

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
They have still to set this all up.
But it will help many girls.
sure it will ... and seems better than bogus abortion help lines run by Christian Church services that purport to give free and unbiased advice but only ever advice women to keep the baby.

[Fom]

As I have said I don't mind the idea of the helpline, as long as it is unbiased help and helps the girls come up with their own decisions and they should not promote or suggest abortion in anyway, just make the options clear.

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
so no one is calling for ads by clincs to advertise their services?... so what is this thread about then?... arista?... you said
"you need to understand,
These Ads are possible that is why the BBC
is debating it."

did you get it wrong?:tongue:


No that is what the BBC debated.
The Idea of Ads got a good response.

This thread is correct from the original link.


Stop Nit Picking.

[arista]

Originally posted by Fom
As I have said I don't mind the idea of the helpline, as long as it is unbiased help and helps the girls come up with their own decisions and they should not promote or suggest abortion in anyway, just make the options clear.


It is not clear what they will do
at this time
time will tell.

[NettoSuperstar!]

But what is clear is that there are no proposals for abortion clinics to advertise on TV...and its highly unlikely that they will specifically advertise that service...This is the Daily Mail making a story out of the CONCERNS of the Anti abortion lobby about more general advisory ads

[ange7]

Originally posted by Fom
As I have said I don't mind the idea of the helpline, as long as it is unbiased help and helps the girls come up with their own decisions and they should not promote or suggest abortion in anyway, just make the options clear.
yeah majority agree with you but no one is "pro abortion"... they are "pro choice" and that side of the argument believe the better informed the choice is the better the outcome.

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
But what is clear is that there are no proposals for abortion clinics to advertise on TV...and its highly unlikely that they will specifically advertise that service.


That is Wrong
Thats what the BBC just Debated
with a response that it will help women.


Time Will tell.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
But what is clear is that there are no proposals for abortion clinics to advertise on TV...and its highly unlikely that they will specifically advertise that service.


That is Wrong
Thats what the BBC just Debated
with a response that it will help women.


Time Will tell.

Its not wrong, I dont care what the Big Question is debating they just debate what is in the news. The real story is as I've explained before...the proposals are (At this point in time) for general advisory ads

[Fom]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Fom
As I have said I don't mind the idea of the helpline, as long as it is unbiased help and helps the girls come up with their own decisions and they should not promote or suggest abortion in anyway, just make the options clear.


It is not clear what they will do
at this time
time will tell.

With the society we live in, I doubt any one will get permission to do other than that.
And this thread has no point because these help lines could go one of 2 ways, more abortions or less... depends how helpful they are, girls might think more clearly and not rush into abortion and take up other options like adoption.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
so no one is calling for ads by clincs to advertise their services?... so what is this thread about then?... arista?... you said
"you need to understand,
These Ads are possible that is why the BBC
is debating it."

did you get it wrong?:tongue:


No that is what the BBC debated.
The Idea of Ads got a good response.

This thread is correct from the original link.


Stop Nit Picking.
it not nit picking. There a HUGE difference between ads by clinics to sell their services and ads by clinics to let people know about their help lines. One debate is about the role commercial business has in the health system while the other debate is about whether clinics advertising helplines. lol @ nit picking .... dude you are far to vague with your sweeping statements.
Life in the City

[ange7]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
But what is clear is that there are no proposals for abortion clinics to advertise on TV...and its highly unlikely that they will specifically advertise that service.


That is Wrong
Thats what the BBC just Debated
with a response that it will help women.


Time Will tell.

Its not wrong, I dont care what the Big Question is debating they just debate what is in the news. The real story is as I've explained before...the proposals are (At this point in time) for general advisory ads
yeah nurse57 called this 5 pages ago ...zzz

[NettoSuperstar!]

Aye...round round baby right round...

[ange7]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Aye...round round baby right round...
you need to update all your 80's cultural references :P

[Nurse57]

Fom, no worries.

The simple fact is we would like to know all the the facts about any medical condition before any action is taken so we can choose.

[inspector-frost]

ads are info so thats a good thing,right??