Racist?

[supernoodles!]

Is it just me or would this woman just not get away with this if it was in the UK?I think not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ0z242Hxrc&feature=channel_page

[30stone]

Shes got some bottle!

[MrGaryy]

ugh I hate Chelsea Lately.

[ILoveTRW]

I Love Chelsea she so rude its funny, if anything she'd be more accepted in the UK than in the US

[supernoodles!]

I cant believe she would get away with that blatant racism,yet look at the uproar caused by Jade`s so called racism.:cloud:

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by BB5
I Love Chelsea she so rude its funny, if anything she'd be more accepted in the UK than in the US

I don`t think she would If anything were too politically correct in this country.She would just not get away with that.

[*mazedsalv**]

Wow she's honest!! She would probably be sacked if this was in the UK.

[MrGaryy]

the only reason she gets away with it is because her show is on some crappy cable network.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Wow she's honest!! She would probably be sacked if this was in the UK.

my thoughts exactly!

[lily.]

Yeah, it's called 'comedy', not 'racism'.

[ILoveTRW]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by BB5
I Love Chelsea she so rude its funny, if anything she'd be more accepted in the UK than in the US

I don`t think she would If anything were too politically correct in this country.She would just not get away with that.

No, most Americans are bible bashers and this show is on a digital channel in the US where about 0.5 million watch it, in the UK it would get on ITV (late night) and would probably get 2 million viewers

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by lili
Yeah, it's called 'comedy', not 'racism'.

oh I forgot to laugh,they should give this woman her own show in the UK and see how many people find it comical then

[lily.]

Do you laugh when black people take the piss out of white people by saying we can't dance? Is it not the same. It's comedy based on stereotyping. God, you are so sensitive.

You should listen to some of the really good black comedians. They use 'white' jokes all the time, and it's still funny.


Edit to add: I love how you brought Jade into your argument. If you find Chelsea offensive, how exactly does that make Jade's situation any better?

[lily.]

Nina, I think people are over-sensitive these days. I feel sorry for comedians, cuz it seems like they can't say anything about anything without some PC-mad viewer taking offence.

[Harry!]

That's america for you but they do get iffy about swaring after the watershed.

[Tom]

I want her to come over here and do a chat show

[lily.]

But it's not americans who are complaining. It appears to be a white English person who is.

[lily.]

Chris Rock: "You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colon"."

Eddie Murphy: "White people can't dance. I'm not being racist it's true. Just like when white people say black people have big lips, it's not racist it's true. Black people have big lips, white people can't dance. Some brothers will be in the club and white people are like, "What are those ******* doing in here?" They watchin' y'all dance. And thy're like, "Look at these crazy mutha****as." Y'all be stepping on people's feet and hitting one another."

[30stone]

Originally posted by lili
Do you laugh when black people take the p**s out of white people by saying we can't dance? Is it not the same. It's comedy based on stereotyping. God, you are so sensitive.

You should listen to some of the really good black comedians. They use 'white' jokes all the time, and it's still funny.


Edit to add: I love how you brought Jade into your argument. If you find Chelsea offensive, how exactly does that make Jade's situation any better?

Agreed.

And i found this pretty funny.

[lily.]

I posted two examples of black comedians with white jokes in the post above yours Ben. I'm sure someone will complain that it's offensive though.

I used Chris Rock & Eddie Murphy because they are comedy genius. Both of them have me in stitches with their jokes, even if they are about white people like me.


Edit to add: Tom: I like her dry delivery. She's marmite though. Not everyone will like her style. I think Jonathan Ross is funny, whereas some people find him offensive. My advice is.. if you don't like it, switch it off.

[30stone]

Im sure people would complain about this guy if they had heard of him.

He was on live at the apollo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-weFBV7YmHA&feature=channel_page

[lily.]

I'm just about to watch your clip Ben. This clip had me rolling with laughter and I'm Scottish!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1j31AnF1zs

[30stone]

Hes funny but a lot of people find him edgy im sure.

i never really like much mcintyre and cant watch because am watching tv with brother so cant turn sound up.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by lili
Do you laugh when black people take the p**s out of white people by saying we can't dance? Is it not the same. It's comedy based on stereotyping. God, you are so sensitive.

You should listen to some of the really good black comedians. They use 'white' jokes all the time, and it's still funny.


Edit to add: I love how you brought Jade into your argument. If you find Chelsea offensive, how exactly does that make Jade's situation any better?

My point is look at the uproar caused by jades so called racist comments ,compare it to this ,there is no difference in terms of racism.

Also I think you need to read my first post again,at what point did I say I found it offensive.I`m simply questioning wether it would be found racist and what sort of reaction it would recieve if it was aired in the UK.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by lili
Do you laugh when black people take the p**s out of white people by saying we can't dance? Is it not the same. It's comedy based on stereotyping. God, you are so sensitive.

You should listen to some of the really good black comedians. They use 'white' jokes all the time, and it's still funny.


Edit to add: I love how you brought Jade into your argument. If you find Chelsea offensive, how exactly does that make Jade's situation any better?

She feels the need to mention Jade in at least one post per day.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by lili
Do you laugh when black people take the p**s out of white people by saying we can't dance? Is it not the same. It's comedy based on stereotyping. God, you are so sensitive.

You should listen to some of the really good black comedians. They use 'white' jokes all the time, and it's still funny.


Edit to add: I love how you brought Jade into your argument. If you find Chelsea offensive, how exactly does that make Jade's situation any better?

She feels the need to mention Jade in at least one post per day.

lmao right back at ya

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by lili
Do you laugh when black people take the p**s out of white people by saying we can't dance? Is it not the same. It's comedy based on stereotyping. God, you are so sensitive.

You should listen to some of the really good black comedians. They use 'white' jokes all the time, and it's still funny.


Edit to add: I love how you brought Jade into your argument. If you find Chelsea offensive, how exactly does that make Jade's situation any better?

She feels the need to mention Jade in at least one post per day.

lmao right back at you

uh, what? :conf:

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by lili
Do you laugh when black people take the p**s out of white people by saying we can't dance? Is it not the same. It's comedy based on stereotyping. God, you are so sensitive.

You should listen to some of the really good black comedians. They use 'white' jokes all the time, and it's still funny.


Edit to add: I love how you brought Jade into your argument. If you find Chelsea offensive, how exactly does that make Jade's situation any better?

She feels the need to mention Jade in at least one post per day.

lmao right back at you

uh, what? :conf:

durr,you feel the need to do the same,only difference is Im a fan ,you hate her,yet you feel the need to mentuon Jade in at least one post per day

[lily.]

Cheers Marsh.. that explains it. :laugh2:

Ben, your video was a good one! haha

Nina, you should never be afraid to air your opinion on here, even if the 'ooh ooh crew' do jump all over it. Stand up and be counted girl. :thumbs:



haha.. my karma went down in the last few minutes... I wonder who that could be? LoL

[Tom4784]

They keyword here is IRONY. She's obviously not being serious, it's like south park, using shock humour for a reaction, they don't believe what they say but they say it to stir a reaction.

Jade has nothing to do with this, she said what she said in a completely serious manner. While I'm guessing Chelsea was being Ironic.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by lili
Cheers Marsh.. that explains it. :laugh2:

Ben, your video was a good one! haha

Nina, you should never be afraid to air your opinion on here, even if the 'ooh ooh crew' do jump all over it. Stand up and be counted girl. :thumbs:



haha.. my karma went down in the last few minutes... I wonder who that could be? LoL


well what dya know so did mine,only need to notice mine has gone down and look at members online for me to figure that one out:pat:

[lily.]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
I cant believe she would get away with that blatant racism,yet look at the uproar caused by Jade`s so called racism.:cloud:


That's where I got the idea that you were offended. The use of the phrase "I can't believe" and branding her humour as "blatant racism".

[lily.]

Yeah, I minused yours in return for you minusing mine noodles. I'm fair that way.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by lili
Originally posted by supernoodles!
I cant believe she would get away with that blatant racism,yet look at the uproar caused by Jade`s so called racism.:cloud:


That's where I got the idea that you were offended. The use of the phrase "I can't believe" and branding her humour as "blatant racism".

I`m not offended but I can see how it can be perceived as racism

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by lili
Yeah, I minused yours in return for you minusing mine noodles. I'm fair that way.


no mine was minused before yours actually.

[lily.]

Can you see how "Shilpa Poppadom" could be perceived as racism too then?

I minused yours from 7 to 6, after mine went down from 25 to 24, so I guess it wasn't just me who minused you today.

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by lili
Can you see how "Shilpa Poppadom" could be perceived as racism too then?

In our politically correct society yes of course.My argument always was that Jade is not racist,I never once said she diddn`t make a comment that could be seen as racist.Jade was ignorant yes,and a bully hmmm perhaps but racist no.She was unaware.

[lily.]

'Ignorant' would be a better word. But, she's gone now, so it doesn't do to dwell on what happened in her life.

I personally don't find the akon/chelsea clip to be offensive. There will be some people who do.

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by lili
Do you laugh when black people take the p**s out of white people by saying we can't dance? Is it not the same. It's comedy based on stereotyping. God, you are so sensitive.

You should listen to some of the really good black comedians. They use 'white' jokes all the time, and it's still funny.


Edit to add: I love how you brought Jade into your argument. If you find Chelsea offensive, how exactly does that make Jade's situation any better?

She feels the need to mention Jade in at least one post per day.

lmao right back at you

uh, what? :conf:

durr,you feel the need to do the same,only difference is Im a fan ,you hate her,yet you feel the need to mentuon Jade in at least one post per day

do i hate Jade? erm since when?
I don't hate Jade and i supported her over the last few months. I was mentioning that you seem to find something to post a new thread about that eventually comes back around to the subject of Jade Goody.

Can your brain process that?

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by lili
Yeah, I minused yours in return for you minusing mine noodles. I'm fair that way.


no mine was minused before yours actually.

That was me.

[lily.]

Lmao... that's cleared up the misunderstanding. Nice to see we can all be honest and upfront about our dislike of fellow forum members. :wink:


Edit to add: Someone put mine back up to 25. haha

[WATERS]

LOL

[supernoodles!]

Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by supernoodles!
Originally posted by 08marsh
Originally posted by lili
Do you laugh when black people take the p**s out of white people by saying we can't dance? Is it not the same. It's comedy based on stereotyping. God, you are so sensitive.

You should listen to some of the really good black comedians. They use 'white' jokes all the time, and it's still funny.


Edit to add: I love how you brought Jade into your argument. If you find Chelsea offensive, how exactly does that make Jade's situation any better?

She feels the need to mention Jade in at least one post per day.

lmao right back at you

uh, what? :conf:

durr,you feel the need to do the same,only difference is Im a fan ,you hate her,yet you feel the need to mentuon Jade in at least one post per day

do i hate Jade? erm since when?
I don't hate Jade and i supported her over the last few months. I was mentioning that you seem to find something to post a new thread about that eventually comes back around to the subject of Jade Goody.

Can your brain process that?

still having that bad week?:pat:
i don`t care
process that

[Marsh.]

Originally posted by supernoodles!
still having that bad week?:pat:
i don`t care
process that

I'm having a great week :dance:
Can't believe you're still going on about that though :joker:
You're living in the past love.

[GiRTh]

How many times did she mention him being black or black people without any context or prompting or anything. She may as well have introduced herself and then said 'Hey Akon you're black. Lets talks about your blackness'. Has she never interviewed a black person before or something? Not good. In fact, quite poor. IMO.:bored:

Those clips you've posted are different as are the quotes from Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock. Those are snippets from stand up routines made up in order to make a point. She on the other hand is sitting interviewing a black man and she cant get off the fact that he's black. Whats her problem? If she was interviewing a Jewish person would she be constantly talking about Jewish issues. Maybe, maybe not!!! Personally, I think she's trying to be funny and controversial - just for the sake of it - and failing to be either.

[lily.]

Again, it's down to whether you find her funny or not. I do think it's the same whether the comedian is black or white. Some people will find it amusing and others will find it offensive. She's not the funniest person in the world, and her material is certainly lacking, but I don't find her offensive. I think her humour is slightly self-deprecating in that she's portraying herself to be a 'typical white person who doesn't understand any other cultures', but maybe I read too much into it.

[Fom]

Thats not racist at all haha, is it that if you mention he is black its racist? I found none of that racist, Akon isn't the kind of guy that would allow himself to be bullied.

Being racist is using some ones colour to insult them, or insulting them for their colour... as far as I can see, he does not look offended! I thought it was funny!

[Wildcat!]

Thats not racist whatsoever. Thats just funny. The reson why you guys might find it racist I am afraid to say, is because in the US, Black people and white people have a certain camaraderie, that does not exist here. SOrry, but its true. Its just like when you have a close friend, they can get away with calling you certain things, which a stranger cant get away with. Its quite simple really. Everyone is pretty much segragated in the UK, socially. So you have a long way to go before people can laugh about these sort of things.

And comparing it to Jade? How silly. Jade wasnt saying what she said to her friend, or joking. She was saying it out of anger, to someone she hated!

[30stone]

Wait didnt get part of that.

"Its just like when you have a close friend, they can get away with calling you certain things, which a stranger cant get away with."


So like over there can you do the same to a stranger?

[Wildcat!]

Its a comedy routine! And its an accepted joke. The OP is probably right saying it it wouldnt be well received here. NOt because peolpe are somehow more tolerant, but because there is more tension between the two races, than there is over there. Hence the example of what someone close to you can get away with, and a stranger cant. In the UK, the black person is more of a stranger than he is in the US.

For example, the blac dude in the US, have a lot more close white frinds, that would make such a joke in real life. Where the black in the UK generally doesnt.

[Fom]

the difference between this and Jade is that Shilpa found it offensive.

[lily.]

The difference between this and Jade is ..

This was a white person trying to be funny whilst interviewing a black person.

That was a white person who didn't have the intelligence required to interact with other people.

[30stone]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Its a comedy routine! And its an accepted joke. The OP is probably right saying it it wouldnt be well received here. NOt because peolpe are somehow more tolerant, but because there is more tension between the two races, than there is over there. Hence the example of what someone close to you can get away with, and a stranger cant. In the UK, the black person is more of a stranger than he is in the US.

For example, the blac dude in the US, have a lot more close white frinds, that would make such a joke in real life. Where the black in the UK generally doesnt.

Ahh right i get it now.

:thumbs:

The first comment confused me a bit lol.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by lili
This was a white person trying to be funny whilst interviewing a black person.
And failing to be funny. I still maintain that she needed to talk about a few other things than his race for her to get away with this kind of 'joke'. For me, she was trying way too hard and it only worked at all because Akon is such a tool he didn't know how to respond. I'd like her to try that sh*t with Spike Lee or someone like that. He'd have made her look as stupid as she actually is.

[andyman]

Spike Lee..... He the guy that dislikes white people? :whistle:

[Chilltown]

Chelsea isn't funny but who cares people. Jesus Christ, since when was acknowledging race being racist. People can't make race related jokes now either? Stop being so sensitive. It's not a Klan rally being shown on every major network, relax.

[Toxic]

I adore Chelsea, she is hilarious