BBC TV Robin Hood has a Black Man (In Correct for that time)

[arista]

Check any History to England at the Robin Hood Time
and they were all White.

I want to see more Black actors on TV
but not because The BBC want to show how the employ everyone.


It looks stupid and Wrong.


I am no racist.
I value History as very important.


The BBC are Pathetic.


Sign Of The Times.

[Nurse57]

It's not real you know, or did you think it was a factual based drama?

[Nurse57]

I was just thinking that you were wrong due to the Moors. A very quick check reveals.

Historical evidence places Robin anywhere between 1190 and 1307 AD.

and

General Timeline of Blacks in Britain

210 AD
African soldiers, described as a "division of Moors," were sent by Rome to defend Hadrian's wall. The presence of these Africans predates the arrival of those who are today considered "English," since Britannia (Modern-day England) was created during Roman rule.


800 AD
The Ancient Irish recorded the existence of "blue men" from Morocco who were captured by the Vikings and taken to Ireland. 1 1000 The skeletal remains of a young African girl were found at North Elmham in Norfolk.


That means black people were in this country around 1000 years before Robin of Loxley.



So I don't know what history books you actually checked. The ones on the Combat 18 web site perhaps?

[arista]

Originally posted by Nurse57
It's not real you know, or did you think it was a factual based drama?


Of Course I know
but I said of the 'Time'
in middle England.
they would have been all White.


Just because it is a made up tale
it is still set in the time zone of that era.

[Firewire]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Nurse57
It's not real you know, or did you think it was a factual based drama?


Of Course I know
but I said of the 'Time'
in middle England.
they would have been all White.


Just because it is a made up tale
it is still set in the time zone of that era.

Yes I agree.

[arista]

Thanks firewire
it looks wrong.


History needs to be kept right
even if they are making a new story
it is set in that time , not now.

[Harry!]

History needs to be true
Or the public become idiots
Who believe that cartoons
are real.

[arista]

Originally posted by Harry.
History needs to be true
Or the public become idiots
Who believe that cartoons
are real.


Cartoons having nothing to do with this thread.


And Yes Harry
BBCTV is destroying History
without a care about what they are doing.

[Fom]

I agree that TV should stick to the history and not change it about just to show they hire a wide range of people, wheras I don't know wether your Robin Hood example is right. But a good example of when they did it right was when on Doctor Who they went back to Shakespeare's times, the black girl got a lot of attention for the fact she was black.

[arista]

Fom it is Not TV

It is only the BBC who keep doing this.
In the Robin Hood Time Zone
no Black Men were running round middle England.

The BBC do this to make show you are aware they employ
everyone.
Which is Stupid.


This is a outright Falsehood
and Wrong.

[30stone]

Yes.

If you watched merlin a few months ago.

That had a black family in it aswell.

Based in the 1500's

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Fom it is Not TV

It is only the BBC who keep doing this.
In the Robin Hood Time Zone
no Black Men were running round middle England.

The BBC do this to make show you are aware they employ
everyone.
Which is Stupid.


This is a outright Falsehood
and Wrong.
re your point
"no Black Men were running round middle England."
why? how would you know?


what do you have to say about this from Nurse?
"General Timeline of Blacks in Britain

210 AD
African soldiers, described as a "division of Moors," were sent by Rome to defend Hadrian's wall. The presence of these Africans predates the arrival of those who are today considered "English," since Britannia (Modern-day England) was created during Roman rule.


800 AD
The Ancient Irish recorded the existence of "blue men" from Morocco who were captured by the Vikings and taken to Ireland. 1 1000 The skeletal remains of a young African girl were found at North Elmham in Norfolk.


That means black people were in this country around 1000 years before Robin of Loxley.
"

[arista]

You have not seen the Previews.


In Middle England "at that time"
there was Not Black Men running round like that.
Fact.

Kids will be confused about History
due to the Stupid BBC.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
You have not seen the Previews.


In Middle England "at that time"
there was Not Black Men running round like that.
Fact.

Kids will be confused about History
due to the Stupid BBC.
I don't give a stuff about the previews. I want to know why you think your an authority on middle age England when you can't even answer Nurses57's point with anything except "Not Black Men running round like that". Lol people go to the trouble of providing FACTS... you provide a rubbish statement and then type FACT at the end hehe.
ps is it true about combat 18?

[andyman]

Arista history sounds fun... Based on myth and legend.. Oh and anti-bbc rants.


You could could watch MTV for your history programs, eh.





(arista mate, the Roman Empire is not part of myths and legends..)

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
You have not seen the Previews.


In Middle England "at that time"
there was Not Black Men running round like that.
Fact.

Kids will be confused about History
due to the Stupid BBC.
I don't give a stuff about the previews. I want to know why you think your an authority on middle age England when you can't even answer Nurses57's point with anything except "Not Black Men running round like that". Lol people go to the trouble of providing FACTS... you provide a rubbish statement and then type FACT at the end hehe.
ps is it true about combat 18?


What has been posted has nothing to do with this
I am talking about a Area
that has no Water near it.


I do not care if you do not 'Give A Stuff.'


We in the UK value our History.
for example we never sent Spanish Down Under,
We sent English Criminals.
Fact.

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Arista history sounds fun... Based on myth and legend.. Oh and anti-bbc rants.


You could could watch MTV for your history programs, eh.





(arista mate, the Roman Empire is not part of myths and legends..)


MTV was good , years ago
now it is bland.

If this was on another channel
this thread would still be here,
so Andyman you are once again Wrong.

[andyman]

Arista type that again with some logic... Ta.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by arista
You have not seen the Previews.


In Middle England "at that time"
there was Not Black Men running round like that.
Fact.

Kids will be confused about History
due to the Stupid BBC.
I don't give a stuff about the previews. I want to know why you think your an authority on middle age England when you can't even answer Nurses57's point with anything except "Not Black Men running round like that". Lol people go to the trouble of providing FACTS... you provide a rubbish statement and then type FACT at the end hehe.
ps is it true about combat 18?


What has been posted has nothing to do with this
I am talking about a Area
that has no Water near it.


I do not care if you do not 'Give A Stuff.'


We in the UK value our History.
for example we never sent Spanish Down Under,
We sent English Criminals.
Fact.
your ranting ...try to focus
you said
"there was Not Black Men running round like that" .... but DIDN'T back it up.
Nurse said there was and went to the trouble of giving you a historical timeline of when black people were in England.
So for the 3rd time ... how do you know "at the Robin Hood Time (mahahaha) ...they were all White." ... explain

ps
"for example we never sent Spanish Down Under,
We sent English Criminals." ... focus

[Tom4784]

Robin Hood is hardly realistic though isn't it? I think the actor in question is quite good in the role of the Monk so why point out his skin colour? So what if it's historically inaccurate? So is the hairstyles, Guy's eye make-up and lingo they speak with.

The man's good at the role that's all what matters.

[arista]

Originally posted by ange7

your ranting ...try to focus
you said
"there was Not Black Men running round like that" .... but DIDN'T back it up.
Nurse said there was and went to the trouble of giving you a historical timeline of when black people were in England.
So for the 3rd time ... how do you know "at the Robin Hood Time (mahahaha) ...they were all White." ... explain

ps
"for example we never sent Spanish Down Under,
We sent English Criminals." ... focus


No Ranting.
Look at History of middle England of that time.
I do not care what Nurse poster says.

I am talking to You.

[andyman]

Hollywood Histories.
Combat 18 real truths.
BNP English Past.
Hitler fantasy land..

Arista please stop reading them books, will rot your brain! :bored:

[ange7]

Originally posted by Dezzy
Robin Hood is hardly realistic though isn't it? I think the actor in question is quite good in the role of the Monk so why point out his skin colour? So what if it's historically inaccurate? So is the hairstyles, Guy's eye make-up and lingo they speak with.

The man's good at the role that's all what matters.
yeah... it's hardly historical anyway.... it's a legend made up of 4 or 5 stories mashed together and then 700 years of story telling has made it a cool legend. So what other reason can we think of for why Arista hates the idea that a black guy is playing robin hood... hmmmmm

[arista]

Originally posted by Dezzy
Robin Hood is hardly realistic though isn't it? I think the actor in question is quite good in the role of the Monk so why point out his skin colour? So what if it's historically inaccurate? So is the hairstyles, Guy's eye make-up and lingo they speak with.

The man's good at the role that's all what matters.


It is set in a Time Zone.

I am pointing out he is Black
because it looks stupid.
At that time they were White.

And Robin Hood is a Mega Show set in England long ago.


That actor is Great but in this time Zone it is wrong.
It is not his fault it is the Stupid BBC.

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Hollywood Histories.
Combat 18 real truths.
BNP English Past.
Hitler fantasy land..

Arista please stop reading them books, will rot your brain! :bored:


Andyman
all of the above you know about
Not me.

Go smear someone else.

[Tom4784]

At the end of the day Arista, It's a light teatime show that contains more historical innacuracies then actual plot. It's a bit of fun it ain't meant to be a history lesson. The fact that you make such a big deal of it astounds me.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by ange7

your ranting ...try to focus
you said
"there was Not Black Men running round like that" .... but DIDN'T back it up.
Nurse said there was and went to the trouble of giving you a historical timeline of when black people were in England.
So for the 3rd time ... how do you know "at the Robin Hood Time (mahahaha) ...they were all White." ... explain

ps
"for example we never sent Spanish Down Under,
We sent English Criminals." ... focus


No Ranting.
Look at History of middle England of that time.
I do not care what Nurse poster says.

I am talking to You.
4th time lucky!!!!! lol
How do you know "there was Not Black Men running round" in "Robin Hood" times. What you don't seem to get is that your understanding of the racial mix in middle age england comes from nasty 1950's 60's movies that were as historically accurate as the new Robin Hood version is... ie not at all. So unless you can bring some facts besides typing "FACT" at the end of your rant then your wasting our time.

[arista]

Ange it is only you and Andyman
that is going on at this.


And Andyman was online most of today
but needed you on here
before he could post.


So Grow Up.

[arista]

Originally posted by Dezzy
At the end of the day Arista, It's a light teatime show that contains more historical innacuracies then actual plot. It's a bit of fun it ain't meant to be a history lesson. The fact that you make such a big deal of it astounds me.


I was told about this while in London
it is not just me.


If it astounds you - OK.

But I Value English History.

We will end up like the Yanks who
re-write History and teach in a way that gives them the wrong
view.

[Locke.]

It is probably just basing it off the movie that Kevin Costner starred in, his best-friend in it was black.... I don't really care though, Robin Hood is a show for kids, and I'm sure kids won't care if they decided to cast a black actor instead of a white actor.

[andyman]

Arista locked in his head again where only arista facts are true..

Go seek the truth and you shall find, insted of the i think its true so must be!
Arista where is your proof to back up your arguement? You need to back it up!

[Jen]

What else has that guy been in?
I can't put my finger on it.

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Arista locked in his head again where only arista facts are true..

Go seek the truth and you shall find, insted of the i think its true so must be!
Arista where is your proof to back up your arguement? You need to back it up!


You Post a Smear
so you are out of order.

[arista]

Originally posted by LEEZIDJ
What else has that guy been in?
I can't put my finger on it.


Loads of Stuff like that Future Series, that was on
some months ago.

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Dezzy
At the end of the day Arista, It's a light teatime show that contains more historical innacuracies then actual plot. It's a bit of fun it ain't meant to be a history lesson. The fact that you make such a big deal of it astounds me.


I was told about this while in London
it is not just me.


If it astounds you - OK.

But I Value English History.

We will end up like the Yanks who
re-write History and teach in a way that gives them the wrong
view.

Yeah because casting a black actor in a main role will really devalue our history....:rolleyes:

Your spitting out a load of crap Arista but you're not backing it up. Ange has provided solid facts but you're just assuming that you know best again.

If I'm honest I think this has got means more to you then 'historical inaccuracies'.

[andyman]

Again you fail to back up your arguement! Why can't you do it?

[Jen]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by LEEZIDJ
What else has that guy been in?
I can't put my finger on it.


Loads of Stuff like that Future Series, that was on
some months ago.


Survivors?

LOL

[arista]

Originally posted by Dezzy


Yeah because casting a black actor in a main role will really devalue our history....:rolleyes:

Your spitting out a load of c**p Arista but you're not backing it up. Ange has provided solid facts but you're just assuming that you know best again.

If I'm honest I think this has got means more to you then 'historical inaccuracies'.


No Way will he Devalue this.

But History needs to look right

You will not see a Mobile Phone in it,
for example.


If this is Crap
why waste your time on this thread?

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Dezzy


Yeah because casting a black actor in a main role will really devalue our history....:rolleyes:

Your spitting out a load of c**p Arista but you're not backing it up. Ange has provided solid facts but you're just assuming that you know best again.

If I'm honest I think this has got means more to you then 'historical inaccuracies'.


No Way will he Devalue this.

But History needs to look right

You will not see a Mobile Phone in it,
for example.


If this is c**p
why waste your time on this thread?

.....There's no mobiles in Robin Hood, Like Ange said there's been black people in England since 150 AC is it so unbelievable that we wouldn't see a black person in Robin Hood?

I think you've just got an issue with the fact that a black person is playing a typically 'white' role and you're trying to desperately tie it in to some historical agenda which has failed miserably. If I was you i'd just give in because you are looking incredibly foolish.

[arista]

Dezzy you are wrong
I want to see more Black actors.

But on this it looks wrong.

I hate Racism.

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by arista
Dezzy you are wrong
I want to see more Black actors.

But on this it looks wrong.

I hate Racism.

Why do you think it looks wrong? It's because you think that, not because of any facts say so. Like I've mentioned before, Ange pointed out the fact that black people have been present in England for hundreds of years is it so implausible that one of Robin Hood's men could be black? of course it isn't.It's just as usual your using your' Arista' facts to try and force across your argument.

you admitted it yourself, 'it looks wrong' It's not because of any facts it's because YOU think it looks wrong.

[Jen]

This argument is beginning to make me think Robin Hood is real.
Yummy.

[arista]

It looks wrong to all that know our History.


All the Monks in middle England at that time were White.


It is a Fact that in that Time Zone
Monks in 'Middle England' were white.

This is the BBC going wrong again.

[arista]

Originally posted by LEEZIDJ
This argument is beginning to make me think Robin Hood is real.
Yummy.


Thats good then.

[Tom4784]

So? at the end of the day it's a light family show, do you spend your time watching Sponge Squarepants to point out the inaccuracies in that too?

What gets me is that this thread wouldn't exist if robin Hood aired on a non BBC channel. It's really annoying Arista, everyone knows you hate BBC and think they are the devil incarnate. There's no use in these threads trying to sway us.

Ultimately if you don't like that fact there's a black person in Robin Hood don't watch it's simple as. Unless you just watch it so you can complain which is ultimately pathetic and sad.

[arista]

I do not watch it, as a rule,
but Previews have been shown

It is Not light Hearted.



"What gets me is that this thread wouldn't exist if robin Hood aired on a non BBC channel."



You do not know me
and I have stated on this thread I would have posted this
if it was on any other channel


So you are going in Circles
now sadly.

I think History is important
and should not be changed.
No one is being swayed on here.

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by arista
So you are going in Circles
now sadly.


:joker:
:laugh:
:laugh3:
:joker:
:laugh:
:laugh3:
:joker:
:laugh:
:laugh3:

three words my friend, pot kettle black.

I've brought up new points in each post you've just repeated the same thing over and over like you always do, it's not gonna make us agree with you. Come back with a real argument because I'm actually embarrased for you.

[arista]

No way can you be embarrased about me
You do not know me.

You keep saying the same thing.

You come back and disprove me.
Or move onto a better thread.

[Tom4784]

Originally posted by arista
No way can you be embarrased about me
You do not know me.

You keep saying the same thing.

You come back and disprove me.
Or move onto a better thread.

You've been disproved mate, look back a few pages there were these things called facts that were posted. You've just thrown around your own opinion and made it like it's the law. Then again that's what you always do so I shouldn't be surprised.

[arista]

I am not your mate.

I have looked at those posts,
but I am talking
about a Monk in "Middle England"
so far back in time.

[Nurse57]

Way back you mentioned water to back up your argument. I am not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying the black people who traveled 1000's of mile to get to England could not move about 100 miles inland over the next 1000 years?

The next bit of text talks of a black Moor knight.

Few documents portray the ethnicity of the Moors in medieval Europe with more passion, boldness and clarity than the epic of Morien. Morien is a metrical romance rendered into English prose from the medieval Dutch version of the Lancelot. In the Lancelot, it occupies more than five thousand lines and forms the ending of the first extant volume of that compilation. Neither the date of the original poem or the name of the author is known. The Dutch manuscript is dated to the beginning of the fourteenth century. The whole work is a translation, and apparently a very faithful translation, of a French original. It is quite clear that the Dutch compiler understood his text well, and though possibly somewhat fettered by the requirement of turning prose into verse, he renders it with uncommon fidelity.

Morien is the adventure of a splendidly heroic Moorish knight (possibly a Christian convert) supposed to have lived during the days of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. Sir Morien is described as follows: "He was all black, even as I tell ye: his head, his body, and his hands were all black, saving only his teeth. His shield and his armour were even those of a Moor, and black as a raven."

Initially in the adventure Morien is simply called "the Moor." He first challenges, then battles, and finally wins the unqualified respect and admiration of Sir Lancelot. In addition, Morien is extremely forthright and articulate. Sir Gawain, whose life was saved on the battlefield by Sir Morien, is stated to have "harkened, and smiled at the black knight's speech." It is noted that Morien was as "black as pitch; that was the fashion of his land--Moors are black as burnt brands." And again: "His teeth were white as chalk, otherwise was he altogether black." "Morien, who was black of face and limb," was a great warrior, and it is said that: "His blows were so mighty; did a spear fly towards him, to harm him, it troubled him no whit, but he smote it in twain as if it were a reed; naught might endure before him." Ultimately, and ironically, Sir Morien came to personify all of the finest virtues of the knights of the European Middle Ages.

As a sort of concluding note, the English ethnologist and antiquarian scholar Gerald Massey (writing in 1881 in his massive two-volume text, A Book of the Beginnings) noted that, "Morion is said to have been the architect of Stonehenge.... Now, as a negro is still known as a Morien in English, may not this indicate that Morien belonged to the Black race, the Ku****e builders?" It should be further added, according to Dr. Jack Forbes in his scholarly work Black Africans and Native Americans, "that for a very long period the Dutch language used Moor and Moriaan for Black Africans." Among the Lorma community in modern Liberia, the name Moryan is still prominent.

SOURCE:
Morien
Nature Knows No Color-Line, By J.A. Rogers


Please note "possibly a Christian convert" Can you please post where you get your infomation that there were no black monks. I will happily admit I am wrong if you can show me the evidance.

[Nurse57]

Just realised you have moved your stance from "black men" to "black monks" So from that I can take it you acsept that there were black people in England at that time.

I have to wonder, would you be happy if the part was played by a white man? What with you wanting it to be historicaly correct and everything.

If so how does this fit with you.

"A friar with Robin's band in the historical period of Richard the Lion-Hearted would have been impossible, because the period predates friars in England"

So in a round about way you are right. Friar Tuck would not have been black as he would not have existed in the first place.

With this in mind the only way to please you would be if any referance to Friar Tuck was removed from the made up story in the first place.

[ange7]

wow your ownage is complete arista.
lol he even gave you a source to back it up. Personally I going to go find out more about this "Morien" guy. I love these little lost snippets of history or myth that turn stereotypes upside down.

[pinkmichk]

i cant even believe this is being discussed :shocked: have we time travelled to a time when racism and stuff was huge arista you need to read stuff people put instead my views are the right ones even if i have nothing to back them up but hey you've been discrimatory about disabled and other groups might as well add this to it when you yourself said it doesnt look right

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
i cant even believe this is being discussed :shocked: have we time travelled to a time when racism and stuff was huge arista you need to read stuff people put instead my views are the right ones even if i have nothing to back them up but hey you've been discrimatory about disabled and other groups might as well add this to it when you yourself said it doesnt look right


I read a Great Deal.

This is to do with the BBC looking like they employ everyone.

Nothing at all to do with Any Kind of Racism.
I said that on my first post on this thread.


This is my view
you do noy have to worry about it.

[andyman]

Arista, this thread should be in Chat & Games...
You can't even back up your "views" with any facts! So what is your view based on?

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Arista, this thread should be in Chat & Games...
You can't even back up your "views" with any facts! So what is your view based on?


You nutter
This was Just on BBC1 Points Of View.
I was ****ing Right.


Even The BBC now back me.

[Tom4784]

Nurse, Ange, Pinky, Andyman.

I salute you.

[arista]

Originally posted by Dezzy
Nurse, Ange, Pinky, Andyman.

I salute you.


Shame You just missed BBC1 Points Of View
who said Sorry for the Historical errors.
Showing the Black actor as well.
FACT.

The BBC now Back me
young Dezzy.

[andyman]

Arista, can you back your "views" up? Points of view is a tv program, i need some facts, which you have failed again to show in this thread.

[pinkmichk]

wow thats the biggest u turn ever thought you hated the bbc:thumbs:

[andyman]

Arista must be doing a major google hunt..

If he can show hard facts then fair play, but just posting opinions does not count as facts.

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
wow thats the biggest u turn ever thought you hated the bbc:thumbs:


Wrong I hate the BBC Tax.
I was in Central London last week
finding out the Future of the BBC.


And Now from the BBC show Points Of View
I am 100% Correct.


Case Closed.

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Arista, can you back your "views" up? Points of view is a tv program, i need some facts, which you have failed again to show in this thread.


You can Watch it on their Website.

This is Good News for this Post
as they got it wrong and said sorry.

It was at the very end of that show.


It is now for all to view.


Andyman
get over this.
You are out of your Depth.

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Arista must be doing a major google hunt..

If he can show hard facts then fair play, but just posting opinions does not count as facts.


Wrong Again 100%
Now the BBC back this thread.

[andyman]

hahahahaha.... Arista you are so funny!

You make a thread that you know nothing about, nor do you provide the thread with hard facts to back up your "views".

You have a right to post your views even though they are invalid and pointless, back it up with facts then it becomes valid.

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
hahahahaha.... Arista you are so funny!

You make a thread that you know nothing about, nor do you provide the thread with hard facts to back up your "views".

You have a right to post your views even though they are invalid and pointless, back it up with facts then it becomes valid.

Today Live On BBC1
they backed me up.
Fact.


So this thread is 100% Valid.


You missed the show
so go find there Site and bleedin' watch it.
It is the very last bit of todays show.

[andyman]

Ok ok, don't get your aura in a twist! :bigsmile:

[pinkmichk]

wonder how many arm chair complainers have moaned about this people need to find better things to complain about

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Ok ok, don't get your aura in a twist! :bigsmile:



My Aura Is Fine
and you Aura is very Happy.

[andyman]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by andyman
Ok ok, don't get your aura in a twist! :bigsmile:



My Aura Is Fine
and you Aura is very Happy. Well thank you kind sir. :thumbs:

[Nurse57]

First off, the program is called points of VIEW, not points of fact. The BBC with all the bashing they are getting at this moment in time would apologize for the holocoust if someone blamed them for it. I have not had a chance to watch it yet, but I shall. As I am happy to look at any new evidence that comes to light. Unlike some.

[Nurse57]

Ok, just watched it.

"This was Just on BBC1 Points Of View."

Yes Robin hood was on Points Of View.

"I was ****ing Right."

Err, no you are not.

First off. 3 viewers offered thier point of view.

1: "It saddens me that the legend as passed down the ages has changed beyond recognition. Had it been called Bobby Hat and set in Epping forest I would be quite happy."

Lets look at the main points. She has said she is saddened by the way that the legend has changed. Changed from what? Unless she is a renowned expert on the tales of Robin Hood the it would be a good guess that it has changed from the version she grew up with. Be that the Eroll Flynn film, Disney, ITV's Robin of Sherwood, Robin Hood prince of Thieves, Robin Hood Men in Tights, Maid Marrion and her Merry Men. The list goes on. Of course she may be on about tha tales as told by the village story teller back in 1256 AD that would bare no resemblance to any of the above.

She mentioned nothing about a black man playing Fryer Tuck.

2: "I spotted that Robin was carrying a strange "W" shaped bow. Why was he not useing an English (Welsh) longbow of Gwent?"

It looks like this chap knows his bows and the types of bow that would have been used at the time. I can go with that. I can only think he does not know or have a view of black people in the middle ages as he makes no mention of a black man playing Fryer Tuck.

3: "It's a shame the makers of this are too lazy to make an entertaining and some what factually correct series...... I'm just waiting for someone to say "High five" in this dopey show."

Let me get this right. He is waiting for someone to say "High five" in a programe he by his own admission does not find entertaining. Why is he watching? Turn over, read a book, go for a walk.

Dispite this person being a bit of a numpty for watching a progam they don't like so they can find something to complain about, they make no note of Fryer Tuckn being played by a black man.

So that is the 3 points that were aired. The BBC's response? They did not give one. They neither said sorry nor we are not sorry. Nothing. They just ended the program.

From what I can see, 3 people made note of the fact that there are historical mistakes in this light entertainment show. I can safely say we all agree with that point of view. But as there was no mention of, or apologie for a black man in Robin Hood, then your point is nul and void.

[andyman]

Not much but does point at the roman past.

Http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.17488

[letmein]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Dezzy
At the end of the day Arista, It's a light teatime show that contains more historical innacuracies then actual plot. It's a bit of fun it ain't meant to be a history lesson. The fact that you make such a big deal of it astounds me.


I was told about this while in London
it is not just me.


If it astounds you - OK.

But I Value English History.

We will end up like the Yanks who
re-write History and teach in a way that gives them the wrong
view.

Artista, every American is smarter than you, and I can back that up by pointing to your posts.

FACT.

Get lost.

[Sean_serg]

Not every american lol far from it

Just like to point out tho the thread title should be "Incorrect" not "In Correct".

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by andyman
hahahahaha.... Arista you are so funny!

You make a thread that you know nothing about, nor do you provide the thread with hard facts to back up your "views".

You have a right to post your views even though they are invalid and pointless, back it up with facts then it becomes valid.

Today Live On BBC1
they backed me up.
Fact.


So this thread is 100% Valid.


You missed the show
so go find there Site and bleedin' watch it.
It is the very last bit of todays show.
lol you liar
they didn't say sorry nor did they back you up. You just made that up in the hope none would bother to check it out... lol nurse did!

[arista]

You can say that but by showing it, and the Black Actor,
it was for the backing of this Debate.

[ange7]

Originally posted by arista
You can say that but by showing it, and the Black Actor,
it was for the backing of this Debate.
sorry? I'm sh*t at scattergories so can you please re order these words till they make sense. .... liar :P

[arista]

By having Robin Hood on the Points Of View
it gave a change for people to say Historical Errors.
You need to watch it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mysv

it runs for 15mins
but just the last mins are about Robin Hood Errors in History.

[ange7]

you said they agreed with you and that they apologised. You lied. They didn't do either.
To date you offer ZERO facts or even an argument to counter ALL the points others have made.

Most people in that situation would swallow their pride and concede. You on the other hand do what you do best ie turn into a catchphrase robot that has some kind of magical shield that makes logic just bounce straight off. Are you real?

[arista]

Yes I am Real
Sorry if It looked wrong that was not what I wanted.


Ange
a Fellow Down Under
Lady
is in this thread taken from the Newspaper link.
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=111297

[Nurse57]

"You can say that but by showing it, and the Black Actor,"

Should they have air brushed him out of the shot?

Tard.

[arista]

Originally posted by Nurse57
"You can say that but by showing it, and the Black Actor,"

Should they have air brushed him out of the shot?

Tard.


No He is a Good actor.
But many see this Historic time in another way.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Damn missed this gem! Whats other people seeing this "historic time" in a distorted way got to do with anything?

Black people were in Britain at this time FACT

Nurse pointed this out (With Factual information) And you still went on to say there wasnt!! Man alive Arista!

[arista]

You can watch it on BBCi player

[NettoSuperstar!]

watch what? people being factually wrong when they say black people werent around at that time? Why would I want to, theyre wrong

[bananarama]

Drama be it true or not should always be as correct in relation to history as possible.. Political correctness should not influence drama casting decisions if it generates unrealistic perceptions.

Even though black people may have been around at the time the probability of Robin hood not being white makes the classical historic character look unrealistic from a drama accuracy perspective.....

[NettoSuperstar!]

For one I believe hes playing a monk...and anyway even if he was playing Robin hood a dont think it would matter. Robin Hood is a fictional character and he could have been black

[arista]

Originally posted by bananarama
Drama be it true or not should always be as correct in relation to history as possible.. Political correctness should not influence drama casting decisions if it generates unrealistic perceptions.

Even though black people may have been around at the time the probability of Robin hood not being white makes the classical historic character look unrealistic from a drama accuracy perspective.....



Great Points.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by bananarama
Drama be it true or not should always be as correct in relation to history as possible.. Political correctness should not influence drama casting decisions if it generates unrealistic perceptions.

Even though black people may have been around at the time the probability of Robin hood not being white makes the classical historic character look unrealistic from a drama accuracy perspective.....



Great Points.

...you mean points you agree with lol!

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
For one I believe hes playing a monk...and anyway even if he was playing Robin hood a dont think it would matter. Robin Hood is a fictional character and he could have been black


It maybe a Story
but you are Wrong in those Days no Monks were Black
in Middle England.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
For one I believe hes playing a monk...and anyway even if he was playing Robin hood a dont think it would matter. Robin Hood is a fictional character and he could have been black


It maybe a Story
but you are Wrong in those Days no Monks were Black
in Middle England.

Evidence?

black people lived in Britain, whos to say none of them were monks?

[arista]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

...you mean points you agree with lol!


He is a better Poster than you.

[NettoSuperstar!]

oooooh you mean HE agrees with what you say....lol

[Nurse57]

And if we are going to be historicaly correct then there should be no Frier. White or not.

Arista. I watched I-player. It made no mention of anyone asking about the validity of black people at the time. Nor did the BBC respond to any of the comments that I transcribed for you.

Obviously I expect to see you complain about any of the depictions over this easter of a white Jesus. As given that everyone else from that area is a shade of brown, being the middle east and all that, then it is a good guess the the big J was brown too.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
For one I believe hes playing a monk...and anyway even if he was playing Robin hood a dont think it would matter. Robin Hood is a fictional character and he could have been black


It maybe a Story
but you are Wrong in those Days no Monks were Black
in Middle England.

Evidence?

black people lived in Britain, whos to say none of them were monks?

...still waitin on your evidence...

[arista]

In the 1500's No Black men
were Monks in Middle England
You find one.
you can not.

[arista]

Originally posted by Nurse57
And if we are going to be historicaly correct then there should be no Frier. White or not.

Arista. I watched I-player. It made no mention of anyone asking about the validity of black people at the time. Nor did the BBC respond to any of the comments that I transcribed for you.

Obviously I expect to see you complain about any of the depictions over this easter of a white Jesus. As given that everyone else from that area is a shade of brown, being the middle east and all that, then it is a good guess the the big J was brown too.


Jesus is a old fable
it means nothing now days.
There Is No God.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
In the 1500's No Black men
were Monks in Middle England
You find one.
you can not.

how can you say that? you do not know that for sure? If so how do you know?

[arista]

Check your History.
You are going over old ground.

[NettoSuperstar!]

You show me where it says there were NO black monks at that time...it doesnt say it anywhere. Just because they were mainly slaves and mainly populated around ports doesnt mean there were NO black monks

Also interestingly, here it says their freedom was tied to whether they were christians...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2002/race/short_history_of_immigration.stm

[Nurse57]

"Jesus is a old fable
it means nothing now days.
There Is No God. "

1: I mentioned nothing about God. (who, for the record I do not belive in either.)

2: So you genuinly mean it when you say that "Jesus is a old fable" and yet you are getting wound up about the "LEGEND" that's "LEGEND" or Robin Hood? ****ing brilliant. You could not make this **** up.

[NettoSuperstar!]

heheh and there is documented evidence of Jesus's existence...Robin hood on the other hand

[arista]

That is Good Nurse 57
that you also do not believe in God
you are most wise.




Sign Of The Times.

[Nurse57]

"you are most wise."

Yes I am. Now will you please answer the points I put to you rather than pretending it did not happen.

We will start with you saying there were no black people in the middle ages. Do you still stand by this statment?

[arista]

There were Black people
But Not in Middle England as Monks
at that time.

It is that simple.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by arista
There were Black people
But Not in Middle England as Monks
at that time.

It is that simple.

Well earlier you said there were no black people at all

Proof?

[arista]

No Black men in that Middle England time
as Monks.
That is our History.


You are going in circles .

[NettoSuperstar!]

lol...you are...where is this documented in our history books?

[GiRTh]

I cant believe you guys are arguing about this. Its a drama not a documentary.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Not to Arista...Robin Hood is more relevant than Christ heheh

[bananarama]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!

...you mean points you agree with lol!


She is a better Poster than you.

Well said!!! :bigsmile: By the way I am a "He". in spite of my forum name...

[arista]

I Edited the Original Post to 'He'

[bananarama]

Originally posted by arista
I Edited the Original Post to 'He'


Ah. Being a male I didn't notice that!!!!!!:laugh:

[letmein]

arista needs to be put on ignore.:dazzler: