View Full Version : Mini General Election!
cc100
15-04-2005, 04:18 PM
who are you going to vote for??
Sticks
15-04-2005, 05:50 PM
As this is the friendly forum, can we desist from talking politics here :nono:
cor!! kate
15-04-2005, 11:43 PM
Umm, gosh that was an interesting discussion:hello:
James
15-04-2005, 11:47 PM
If you don't know who to vote for, you could let this website make up your mind for you...
http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/
im not voting.
by the time a party win the election, theyll go off and do thier own thing!
wont do anything they promised in the election...
they always put fake tan on too, to look better.
Sticks
16-04-2005, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by James
If you don't know who to vote for, you could let this website make up your mind for you...
http://www.whoshouldyouvotefor.com/
Monster Raving Loony was not an option here, what a swizz
cc100
16-04-2005, 03:49 PM
apparently i should vote Green!!!
no chance!
cc100
16-04-2005, 03:50 PM
apparently i should vote Green!!!
no chance!
AndyJK
16-04-2005, 03:58 PM
Im voting Conservative as Ive always done in every general election Ive been eligable t to vote in since 1992. My MP is Iain Duncan Smith who has a 5,000 majority for the constituency of Chingford & Woodford Green. G'wan!
They all make promises they cannot keep.
huckool
16-04-2005, 08:49 PM
I'm voting Conservative.
Sticks
16-04-2005, 09:40 PM
How about
Tick One Box Only Instructions on the Voting form
25675
I duely declare Tick One Box Only the winner of this constituency
Lance
17-04-2005, 03:55 PM
I dont really care,cos Im irish but if I was from th eUK then Id probably vote whatever party Mr.Blair isnt in!
cc100
17-04-2005, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Sticks
How about
Tick One Box Only Instructions on the Voting form
25675
I duely declare Tick One Box Only the winner of this constituency
:hello:
hindi
20-04-2005, 03:18 PM
i vote the tories yeahhhhhhhhhhhh they are the best CM'ON MAGGIE THATCHERS TEAM
cc100
20-04-2005, 04:37 PM
thatcher is 79!!!
the second best pm this country ever had!!
she still looms large over the conservatives
Sticks
20-04-2005, 04:56 PM
As a serving Civil Servant, I am not at liberty to disclose any opinion. I will serve whomsoever gets elected.
Anyway as any viewer of Yes Minister will know, it is us that run the country, the politicians mearly distract people's attention from that fact. :laugh:
bananarama
20-04-2005, 05:30 PM
For the first half of my voting life I voted Tory. Having learned a lesson and being in the civil service for 16 years out of the Tory 18 years of sabatage I learned some facts and many lessons about what they are about . Never again. I now vote Labour.....
Romantic Old Bird
21-04-2005, 11:56 AM
I voted Tory once - my first ever vote at age 19 when I hadn't developed my own views and just did what my father did. He thought voting 'toff' would make him more of one, instead of accepting and celebrating the fact he was working class.
Then I got an education, experienced life. I have voted labour ever since.
Like Bananarama, I have seen the systematic stripping of assetts and decimation that took place during 19 Tory years to the health service, where I work, and the education service which my children passed through and still work in.
It was horrendous. Services were run down, squeezed, drianed of cash and resources. Buildings simply deteriorated, and staff either left in their thousands, or lost all the joy they once had in their work. Hospitals closed en masse, and bed numbers were drastically reduced.
Since 1997 I have seen very real evidence of investment and improvements in both services again. There is a long way to go, but the damage of neglect, uninvestment and rock bottom morale was massive and we are still paying the price.
The seasonal bed crises can be traced back to tory cuts.
As for the MRSA bug that mr Howard made so much of - I can trace it's proliferation directly back to when the then Tory government got rid of in house domestics and introduced contracted cleaning services. The staff was halved, and their wages lowered. The few who remained had to cover vast areas, and of course, standards fell.
The hospital I work in does have a problem with the superbug -everywhere has- but the ward housekeepers and cleaners work tirelessly to overcome it. The wards sparkle, and they are never 'not' cleaning. Howard's jibes just serve to scaremonger and reduce morale.
My one (big) reservation was the Iraq invasion - I wasn't at all happy about it, and I think it was a mistake. I don't think it was a cynical mistake though. I do believe Tony Blair felt it was something that had to happen, and I think he was sincere in his fears. Remember the tories were in complete accord with his actions at the time, and had been given the same information he had.
I also suspect that part of his motivation was to keep rooting-tooting gung-ho 'Bomb the Bastrds' Bush in some sort of check.
Beware the Tory bullsh*t. Like any bully they will attack were it doesn't show - until an awful lot of damage has been done.
Sticks
21-04-2005, 12:27 PM
Voting in a general election is becoming more like voting in a parish council election. We feel worthy for doing our civic duty, but in the end it is meaningless, as all the descisions are taken elsewhere.
We have seen in this region someone prosecuted for selling bananas in imperial units. When they cited a British law allowing them too, they were told a european law over-ruled it!!!!!
If the Europeans had had their way in 1982, the Argentinian flag would be waving still over the Falkland Islands giving a vistory to armed aggression, long before the Madrid bombs gave an ultimate victory to terroists.
We have been sold down the river on a number of things to the EU. It is a miracle that we are not members of the Euro. (Any champions of the Euro should remember what the ERM did to this country before white wednesday when we could get shot of it)
That might give an indication of how I would have liked to have voted, had I been given the chance in the general election, like I had in the European Election
cc100
21-04-2005, 05:15 PM
most politicians will say what they think we want to hear just to get elected, and then do as they please.
is charlie kennedy a serious candidate?
cc100
21-04-2005, 05:25 PM
check out The Official Monster Raving Loony Party, www.omrlp.com
amongst other policies, they say theyll abolish gravity!!
Other policies:
They will issue a 99p coin to save on change.
The Official Monster Raving Loony Party will not join the single European currency. We will invite all Europeans countries to JOIN THE POUND.
Rich people should be taxed to pay for the printing of money, as they use most of it.
In reaction to the old adage, “Children are so honest” they intend to reduce the age of standing for parliament from 21 to 5.
We pledge to reduce class sizes by making the pupils sit closer to one another and issuing them with smaller desks.
In the interests of fair education policy, under a loony government all children will automatically be given full marks in their exams.
Bright pupils will be provided with dimmer switches to prevent them distracting the rest of the class.
SAT’s tests will be abolished and replaced by Gordon Ramsey style cookery lessons and Rolf Harris art classes.
All children will be given two birthdays like the Queen.
The number 13 will be abolished due to its longstanding unpopularity.
Eton and Oxford will be relocated to Blackpool and Bognor Regis leaving the other Universities with a chance of a bigger intake.
check out their website, it makes politics seem cool!
bananarama
21-04-2005, 05:54 PM
Ok. Want some Tory facts. probably not but here they are.
My time in the Dept of transport saw floor space reduced from 8 floors to 3 floors. Ahhh. Good you might think save money on staff and floor renting costs. Sorry...Not that simple.
Tory waste was emptying floors that they were still contracted to pay for. Workers cramped while empty space was available at no extra cost. A Tory lie about being able to save and not waste.
Staff being axed were mainly low earners. Problem for the tax payer was that it was actually cheaper to keep low paid staff because they cost the state more on benefits. Hence the usual Tory lie when they claim savings can be made.
I personally know of a failed market testing exercise that cost the tax payer half a million pounds. Was it reported in the then Tory press. Not on your nelly..Typical Tory waste. Another fact I know was that contracting out work was in some cases costing twice as much as in house staff. Yet another Tory deception that they save money.
The in house cleaners were privatised almost immediately that Thatcher took control.
Their wage was £1-90 per hour. Now changed to a private company at the same rate of pay. 16 years later their wages had gone up to £2-10 per hour. A rise of 20 pence over 16 years. If that is what some of you youngsters want then vote for the evil scum bags and you will deserve everything you don’t get…..
Yes I voted Tory at every election including helping to put Thatcher in her first term of office and for that I am forever ashamed that I was stupid enough to be suckered by their smart talk…..The Tories in their present state are a bunch of right wing stranger to the truth incompetents……Never again. Never again will I support either the extreme right or the extreme left…..
What ever you may think about the Iraq war Blair put his own career on line and the future of his party. Rightly or wrongly he did what he thought was right even at the risk of destroying his own future or his party future. A brave and honest politician.
Sticks
21-04-2005, 06:05 PM
In the end though Brussles comes to rule more and more and our parliament matters less and less.
We are deluged with dictacts from the unelected EU commission which wastes far more money than our lot do.
And we are ceding more of our sovereignty to the EU every year.
So what is the point?
bananarama
21-04-2005, 06:28 PM
Thats' a pessimistic point of view that i don't agree with...
All political organisations and countries waste. As to which where and when and who wastes the most is a fact that can never be known with any degree of certainty.....
Pay yer money to a car insurer and you can bet your bottom dollar that most of it is wasted on high flier directors and lush furnishings.....The perverse way of humans
My pessimistic belief is that we are all born to waste...and when we save for a rainy day.....Guess what!!!!! We don't want to give it up until a later rainy day.....:hugesmile::hugesmile:
cc100
22-04-2005, 04:17 PM
sticks point almost makes me want to vote for kilroy-silk!!
http://www.veritasparty.com/
bananarama
22-04-2005, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by cc100
sticks point almost makes me want to vote for kilroy-silk!!
http://www.veritasparty.com/
No one could be that desperate to vote.:hugesmile:
Sticks
22-04-2005, 08:33 PM
They aren't standing in the constituency where I live either
cc100
23-04-2005, 04:50 PM
nor mine, unfortunately!!
what do you think of the BNP? theyve gone on about immigration for years and all of a sudden its the main issue in the campaign?!
Sticks
23-04-2005, 05:05 PM
I tend to be neutral on immigration
Thankfully the BNP don't have a candidate standing in the area I live.
cc100
23-04-2005, 05:08 PM
According to a BNP candidate on Newsnight, by 2060, the white population will be in the minority.
Sticks
23-04-2005, 07:25 PM
So?
cc100
24-04-2005, 04:58 PM
So, they are trying to scare the white population into voting for them.
Its not just them. Do you know how many black Tory MPs there are?
Zero.
The Tories are playing to the same ground as the BNP.
That was my point.
Sticks
24-04-2005, 05:21 PM
I have even been contemplating voting for one of these minority parties
Newcastle Academy With Christian Values Party :shocked:
cc100
24-04-2005, 05:47 PM
Isnt voting for a minority party a wasted vote?
Ive always thought that its either Labour or the Tories, because they are the only likely winners, maybe alongside the Lib Dems in posh areas.
Sticks
24-04-2005, 07:36 PM
The wasted vote is the vote that is not cast, because we can not be bothered
Whether a vote is an effective vote or not is another matter...
Sticks
25-04-2005, 10:38 AM
I have just discovered that the National Front have put up a candidate where I live :shocked: :mad:
Romantic Old Bird
25-04-2005, 11:33 AM
Sticks, we are fed masses of misinformation about the EEC. You would be stunned to hear the other side of the story i.e., if you lived over in Holland, France or Germany.
My youngest lived in Holland for few months and was amazed at how misrepresented the contributions of other countries was, and at how much we actually get back. Our newspapers are VERY selective in how the represent Europe.
Plus all these silly comments about straight bananas etc. Simply untrue
Personally, I think our relationship with Europe is far more beneficial in every way than our unholy alliance with the US
cc100
25-04-2005, 05:13 PM
I agree, Id rather be European than a yank.
Mind you, weve got to keep the pound.
Im also considering voting for UKIP:thumbs:
bananarama
25-04-2005, 06:05 PM
Why do we have to keep the pound?????
If it is in our economic interest to do so then we should keep the pound. If it is in our economic interest not to keep the pound then we should let it go into the realms of the past.....
The point I am making is keeping something just because it has always been is so pointless. The world moves on and so it should.....
I must say i am surprised that the poll has not received a Lib/Dem vote yet!!! Not that i have any time for such a sit on the fence party but statistically I would have thought that they would have shown a result by now......:shocked:
bananarama
25-04-2005, 06:10 PM
The BNP (British Nutters Party) Is a nasty evil bunch of gits. Wanting to have households armed with guns to shoot burglars and any other intruder. this would of course not be to shoot burglars but to shoot any foreigner that was tricked into entering a BNP supporters household. Legalised murder of people of a different race. They are a nasty party and should be avoided like the plague.....
cc100
27-04-2005, 05:00 PM
The BNP are right that householders should be able to defend their own property though.....................
cc100
27-04-2005, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by cc100
The BNP are right that householders should be able to defend their own property though.....................
they also have a policy that people should be able to keep a firearm and be lawfully obliged to use it on politicians who mess up.
wonder what the lilly livered liberals think of that??!!
Romantic Old Bird
28-04-2005, 09:33 AM
cc, have you been over to Europe since the Euro came in? It's fantastic, no messing around.
In 1990 we drove to Italy and had to get: French francs, Swiss francs and Italian Lire. The mental calculations were mind blowing. We ended up topping up with petol and sweeties at every border on the way back to spend up.
Since the Euro I've been to Holland France Belgium Italy Ireland, and I can use the same dosh. Great.
It has had no effect whatsoever on these countries sense of individuality. Macdonalds, Burger King, Starbucks, Cafe Nero etc are the real threats to or national identity. They are in every country you visit. And guess what? They are all US multinational companies.
I'm all for the Euro presenting a real challenge to the monopoly of the American Dollar.
We need to change. If we hadn't changed we'd still be using the groat, or bartering.
We had a european currency in the past - the Florin was used in England and the Low countries - sovereigns and crowns were international in the past. Most money is virtual anyway.
What is so great about the pound??
Sticks
28-04-2005, 10:03 AM
If you can controll your own currency then you can run the economy to suit your needs. Even the mighty Germany (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4266503.stm) is being effected by the Euro. As we are not in the Euro we can set interest rates and other factors to suit ourselves
Sticks
28-04-2005, 10:08 AM
See also this story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3983331.stm) about Germany's woes over being in the Euro
Romantic Old Bird
28-04-2005, 11:03 AM
'Germany, like the other 11 nations that currently use the euro, is bound by the European Union's 1997 Stability and Growth pact, which limits a nation's annual public deficit to less than 3% of GDP.'
STICKS, THIS IS JUST GOOD HOUSEKEEPING! Of course if you are part of a system you have to remain solvent, or you pull down everyone else and devalue the currency. That applies to the pound as well. Without this rule they would be admitting economically developing countries whose gross domestic product is limited.
Aaargh, I'm talking finance and politics. I can't believe it!!
bananarama
28-04-2005, 03:36 PM
I am not against the Euro in principle. However if our economy is reasonably sound as it appears to be. Why rock the boat and fix something if it aint broke.!!!
I agree a common currency makes sense after all what sense would there be in a local town market having all it's stalls (analogy to countries) selling products in different currencies. It makes sense to unify at some time in the future.
Labour are being cautious and I don't blame them for that. A lot more sensible than extremist Victorian Tories and the senseless dive in the deep end Lib/Dem's
bananarama
28-04-2005, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by cc100
The BNP are right that householders should be able to defend their own property though.....................
People should be allowed to defend their properties without fear of being prosecuted as they are now. I agree.
However with parties like the British nutters Party you have to read between the lines as to what they really want to create.....
Having ex military individuals keep assault rifles at home is a way of gearing up for an armed police state while using it as an excuse to defend the country against some mysterious invasion and burglars
If the BNP were interested in house holders defending themselves they would not restrict arms to that of ex military only...
The concept of mass or universal arming of house holders with a right to use them indiscriminately is shear madness and would lead to effectively legalised killings from all sides of society. With the BNP hatred for foreigners it does not take much working out who would get the most bullets with an accusation of stop thief……
BusyBee
28-04-2005, 04:35 PM
I am afraid I have become completely disillusioned with all the parties. I live in an area where our sitting MP is Dawn Primarolo (works with Gordon Brown) and she has a huge majority.
Having been a school governor and seen the interference from the tories and labour party in the running of the school, with teachers being faced with changing curriculums on a regular basis I am afraid I dont hold out much hope for change whoever gets in that will improve schools.
Working in the legal profession, all I can say is I'll vote for the party who increases payments to legal aid solicitors in order that the poorer members of the community can get their opportunity to use the legal service. Too many of the profession are turning their back on legal aid because it is just so badly paid. For instance the number of criminal defence solicitors is decreasing because they just do not get the money for the work that is put in. Whether guilty or not someone is entitled to a defence, but it is getting more and more difficult.
So me, I am afraid I shall not be voting this time. Copping out - yes perhaps I am but I really do not feel that I have faith in any of them. Tony Blair went down in my estimation with the whole Iraq War debarcle, Michael Howard seems to pick on anything that he thinks will win votes, and Charles Kennedy, for me, doesnt have the experience to run the country.
cc100
28-04-2005, 05:21 PM
What happens if we swap currencies and then it goes pear shaped?
I cant imagine blair/brown admitting getting it wrong and therefore returning to the pound.
I like what the monster raving loony party say: that we should keep the pound and invite Europe to join it!
Ive not been to Europe but I do understand that its easier, but why not go the whole hog and have a WORLD currency? that would be even easier still.
Sticks
28-04-2005, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by cc100
but why not go the whole hog and have a WORLD currency? that would be even easier still.
There already is one that tends to be accepted more,
The US Dollar
After all all oil prices are quoted in it
BTW if you do not vote, you have no right to complain :nono:
People have died to get us the vote, and with postal voting, what I am using, you don't even have to drag your fat lazy [CENSORD WORD] to a polling station. (However I walk past it on my way to work :blush: duh! )
The wonderful thing about the postal vote, I can vote early and then tell the electon cavasers. That shuts them up :hugesmile:
bananarama
29-04-2005, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by cc100
What happens if we swap currencies and then it goes pear shaped?
That's a very valid point.!! However,nothing in life is certain. Judgments and decisions have to be made. Sometimes they get it wrong but decisions have to be made......The world of politics goes on as imperfect as ever.:bawling:
cc100
29-04-2005, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Sticks
BTW if you do not vote, you have no right to complain :nono:
People have died to get us the vote, and with postal voting, what I am using, you don't even have to drag your fat lazy [CENSORD WORD] to a polling station. (However I walk past it on my way to work :blush: duh! )
The wonderful thing about the postal vote, I can vote early and then tell the electon cavasers. That shuts them up :hugesmile:
Ive already voted via the postal voting system.
unfortunately, i only had a choice of 4 candidates, the usual 3 parties and UKIP, so I couldnt vote for who I wanted to., I had to vote for my second choice.
How is that fair?
BTW i live in an inner city constituency.
I
cc100
29-04-2005, 04:56 PM
I agree that the postal voting system is great.
It should be law that you HAVE to vote, and with this postal system, its easier for all concerned.:mad:
Ive had the 3 main candidates at my door. Its funny how theyll promise the earth to get your vote.
BigSister
29-04-2005, 04:59 PM
I got my polling cards today through the post
bananarama
29-04-2005, 04:59 PM
I have to date always used my vote but I must admit in the times we are in now I have been tempted to say stuff the lot of them. So I understand where BusyBee is coming from...
I don't regard the Iraq war as a deterrent to voting. Not at all. The monster needed removing and it's a pity they didn't do it years before when they had the chance...Yes. The war is still indirectly responsible for a lot of killings...The problem with the logic anti war persons is that if the war had not happened then the killing would still continue Saddam adding more mass graves to their already huge collection and no chance of an overthrow of a fanatical regime.....Not going to war would not have stopped the killing of innocent people.
However their is now a chance of some sort of democratic future for them. As with us in the the UK who had to suffer the likes of terrorism from the IRA Iraq will have to deal with anti democratic forces. At least they have the hope where as before they had none.....That's why I am not angry with the war decision at all. I am angry with the yellow bellied sit on the fence do nothing brigade of the United Nations.
bananarama
29-04-2005, 05:10 PM
Postal voting is venerable to corruption therefore should only be allowed by those who otherwise cannot get to a polling station.
No point moaning about a Government if one is to darn lazy to get off ones back side to walk to a polling station.What ever next...Want to be spoon fed.:laugh:
As for compulsory voting. Are we not supposed to live in a free country!!. Free to choose!!! If a potential voter does not have a candidate that they can in all honesty believe in then they should not be forced to vote…Forced voting aint freedom of choice..
I think perhaps and this would be bad news for all parties that a vote selection of “None of the above” should appear on the ballot papers. So then people would have no excuse to say they don’t have a choice. But at the end of the day “Compulsion” is a dirty word…..
cc100
30-04-2005, 04:21 PM
Sticks, how did you arrange youre postal vote?
The Conservatives wrote to me asking if I wanted a postal vote. Is this legal?
Sticks
30-04-2005, 04:31 PM
When they did the periodical update of the electoral register there was a ticky box if I wanted a postal vote, so I ticked it. It came from the council returning officer deparment responsible for the register. (Or it was something along those lines)
Can not comment on the legality of a party asking you if you wish a postal ballot
cc100
30-04-2005, 05:02 PM
The reason I asked if it was legal was because a few local councillors have been jailed due to postal ballot fraud. Im sure youve heard of this on the national news.
not heard of this cc100 :shocked:
cc100
01-05-2005, 04:06 PM
yeah, a few local councillors her in birmingham have been jailed due to postal vote fraud
(see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4373719.stm )
they were jailed for 6 months, if i remember right.
also one candidate in yorkshire had 13 postal voters registered in ONE 3 bedroom house!!
it seems to be open to abuse.
bananarama
01-05-2005, 04:51 PM
I have been told that it is legal for a party to ask a voter if they want a postal ballot. Did the Tory candidate ask you to return the postal ballot back to them???
Some Labour candidates are asking for postal ballots to be returned back to them. From what ever side this is happening it all smells very fishy to me...
bananarama
01-05-2005, 04:57 PM
Anyone who watches Sky news should have seen the fact that Sky news reporters managed to obtain false postal ballot papers using real names along with the address of premises that are empty......The whole postal system is wide open to corruption..
As i said earlier. As things stand at the moment only people who do not have mobility should be allowed to and need to vote by post.
cc100
01-05-2005, 05:09 PM
The tory candidate didnt ask me to send them to him, he told me to post them in the pillar box as a normal letter.
Ive been ill recently and find it hard to get about so thats why I vote via the postal system, although if it increases turnout surely it should be open to everyone?
bananarama
01-05-2005, 05:42 PM
Now I understand. This case sounds ok to me so vote with confidence...Regards. bananarama...
cc100
04-05-2005, 05:48 PM
has all the coverage and electioneering helped you decide who to vote for? or did you decide long ago?
i would vote labour if it wasnt for mr. blair.
Sticks
04-05-2005, 10:02 PM
You only get to vote for Blair, if you live in the constituentcy of Sedgefield. The sitting MP where I live is Labour, but he voted against the war. Something the Liberal democrats failed to mention in their election literature when they labled him as Tony's man. :rolleyes:
i dont really want to vote...
anyway, can i vote at 17? :rolleyes:
just as well, i wasnt going to be voting anyway :rolleyes:
Di2001
05-05-2005, 08:40 PM
There's less than half an hour before the polls close!!!
Labour have won for sure, knew they would.
We all knew it was going to be labour who won, no matter how much people slag off Tony Blair the majority of people are still prepared to give him their vote.
bananarama
06-05-2005, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Mike
We all knew it was going to be labour who won, no matter how much people slag off Tony Blair the majority of people are still prepared to give him their vote.
Wrong calculation I am afraid.....The majority of people are not prepared to give any party at any election the majority of the vote. Labour have won on 37% of the vote and that leaves 63% of people that did not want labour...
At any election be it a Tory win or Labour win or a fantasy Lib/Dem win no party has a majority of the country voting for them.....:nono:
Such is the corrupt nature of our supposed democracy.....:devil:
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by Mike
We all knew it was going to be labour who won, no matter how much people slag off Tony Blair the majority of people are still prepared to give him their vote.
Wrong calculation I am afraid.....The majority of people are not prepared to give any party at any election the majority of the vote. Labour have won on 37% of the vote and that leaves 63% of people that did not want labour...
At any election be it a Tory win or Labour win or a fantasy Lib/Dem win no party has a majority of the country voting for them.....:nono:
Such is the corrupt nature of our supposed democracy.....:devil:
:sleep: , not that im really bothered but there you go..
cc100
06-05-2005, 05:12 PM
so blairs back, eh?
well what do you think of that? bananarama made a great point that the MAJORITY did not want blair, its just a shame that we dont have a strong opposition, otherwise we might have a new leader.
kaphc
06-05-2005, 06:47 PM
With such a fragmented vote, it seems a shame that the parties can't split the different jobs between them. Labour could run the public services such as schools and hospitals, the Tories could look after crime, immigration, defence and foreign affairs and the Lib Dems could have the environment and whatever else is left! Then the three parties could get together to decide on the ecomony stuff under the guidance of the Bank of England!
As the parties are becoming so much closer in policies and outlook, it would seem to make sense! :spin2:
bananarama
07-05-2005, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by kaphc
With such a fragmented vote, it seems a shame that the parties can't split the different jobs between them. Labour could run the public services such as schools and hospitals, the Tories could look after crime, immigration, defence and foreign affairs and the Lib Dems could have the environment and whatever else is left! Then the three parties could get together to decide on the ecomony stuff under the guidance of the Bank of England!
As the parties are becoming so much closer in policies and outlook, it would seem to make sense! :spin2:
That sounds like the ideal solution Kaphic.If only:laugh:
I don't agree that the parties are similar in policy though!!! For example. Tongue in cheek..
The Lib/Dem’s having a suitable party colour of "yellow" won't get involved with war. While Labour with a party colour of red get involved with the flow of blood in war. The Tories having the colour of “Blue” are as such typically obcene…..
The Lib/Dems would allow Europe to walk all over them while the Tories would like to walk all over Europe while labour sits on the fence and organises referendums on the agreed size of the many European eggs that are laid….
As for transport the Tories are going round in ever right hand circles. Labour is stuck in a jam and the Lib/Dem's as usual are just lost in the wilderness looking for some common sense and only finding confused voters that they can convince that a Lib/Dem vote is not a wasted vote...
The environment. The Tories are the original pollution while Labour sweeps up rowdy teens and turns them into even more rowdy teens and the Lib/Dems sweep everything under the carpet and hope that neither the Tories or Labour will find it…..
On the Economy the Tories like to help those that help themselves so bank robbers would do quite well under them...Labour will help those that volunteer for hard labour while the Lib/Dems are busy trying to help themselves on how to add two and two together without coming up with another speech about Iraq...:laugh:
Ok Zzzzzzz Mike!! You can wake up now and carry on not bothering.. After all that’s what nearly 60% of potential voters do and then complain about what ever Government they finish up with…Me I vote and still carry on complaining about what ever Government I wake up to. Such as life.. I think I will stop bothering too. :laugh:
cc100
07-05-2005, 04:47 PM
our poll in this thread is pretty accurate to the actual result
cc100
10-05-2005, 05:42 PM
+for sticks+
hi
you said in a previous post that you may vote for the newcastle christian alliance(or the like), so can you tell me how many votes they got and where they were ranked out of the candidates, ie- 4th 5th or 6th etc.
if you cannot recall said info, please let me know youre constituency so i can look it up on bbc.co.uk/election2005
sorry if this is nosey, but im into stats, you see.
ta
chris
Sticks
10-05-2005, 05:47 PM
Newcastle Central
And I did not vote for that candidate in the end as I had to vote tactically
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