one thing i have to say about the live feed [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

midlandman

31-05-2009, 10:38 AM

we coped without it b4 on the first big brother and i mean come on we don't watch all the time do we i think the highlight will be good this year and we have bblb so we don't need live feed i i wanted to hear birds anyway i go to birdland and as for the plane i go to a airport

sammyboi

31-05-2009, 10:45 AM

:laugh3: agreed

Rozartytype

31-05-2009, 10:58 AM

I can't understand why people would want live feed anyway,and pay for it too.
Live coverage is ruined with all those arbitary sound dips.Think I'll stick with the highlights shows,BBLB and BBBM as usual.

Looweez

31-05-2009, 11:03 AM

If I really like a housemate then I want to watch more of them!

SocietyIsRuined

31-05-2009, 11:03 AM

They had live feed for the first Big Brother. They had multiple camera feeds on the web.

Brekkie

31-05-2009, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by SocietyIsRuined
They had live feed for the first Big Brother. They had multiple camera feeds on the web.
Exactly - and you look at any coverage of the Nasty Nick incident and the story is how it played out on the web, not how it played out on TV in the highlights show.

Those people who moan about the sound dips are obviously completely ignorant - even if the sound is dipped for half the coverage (which is far from the truth, it's more like 5 minutes in an hour at most), we're still losing out on 12 hours plus a day of live coverage.

BBDodge

31-05-2009, 11:12 AM

Why do some people on this forum want LESS Big Brother?

Why do some people think "Well I don't watch so no-one should?"

And why do people who don't care about the live feed start threads about the live feed?

Rozartytype

31-05-2009, 11:31 AM

The sound dips go on for more than just five minutes in each hour!Even for late night live coverage-well after the 'watershed'-there are still many,prolonged sound dips.
There is always a delay on so called 'live' transmissions anyway,so C4/Endermol could make a better editorial job than they do.
The SD's really detract from the live show.

Stu

31-05-2009, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Rozartytype
The sound dips go on for more than just five minutes in each hour!Even for late night live coverage-well after the 'watershed'-there are still many,prolonged sound dips.
There is always a delay on so called 'live' transmissions anyway,so C4/Endermol could make a better editorial job than they do.
The SD's really detract from the live show.
Which also feeds an interesting point most live feed fanatics still dont get...

THE LIVE FEED IS EDITED.

Seriously, the amount of people going ''we get to watch raw 100% housemates!'' is unreal. No you dont. You get to watch, like a naive muppet, a half arsed live feed that merely acts as a playground for the production team to take bits out, add in sound dips, or focus the camera on a box for twenty minuets while you watch on like a robot.

Beastie

31-05-2009, 11:49 AM

at the end of the day there is some live feed!

and NO ONE watches live feed literally 24 7.. they need time to eat, drink, sleep and use the toilet! lol

BBDodge

31-05-2009, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by bbfanatic
at the end of the day there is some live feed!

and NO ONE watches live feed literally 24 7.. they need time to eat, drink, sleep...

And when do most viewers sleep?

And when is that live feed on?

Beastie

31-05-2009, 12:00 PM

i dont know.. some people work at night shifts/day shifts or whatever dont they!!!!

Stu

31-05-2009, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by BBDodge
Originally posted by bbfanatic
at the end of the day there is some live feed!

and NO ONE watches live feed literally 24 7.. they need time to eat, drink, sleep...

And when do most viewers sleep?

And when is that live feed on?
Rubbish. If the live feed was shown during the day and axed by night everyone would be saying ''OMG who wants to watch it during the day I am out doing stuff, night is way better when their drunk and up till 4 like me''.

Beastie

31-05-2009, 12:08 PM

well there you go! im sure there is live feed at night??

ash1977

31-05-2009, 12:11 PM

The live feed was important part of the BB experience for me as it allowed me to form an unedited opinion of what was happening and what was being said instead of the "party line" edits shown on ch 4 highlights.

Beastie

31-05-2009, 12:14 PM

yeah.. okay! and yeah i suppose in the live feed you see things you dont see in the live show.. and you witness more intellectual conversations as well!!

but anyway.. im just happy big brother is actually back!!

at least its back anyway! and the whole thing has not been axed!

Stu

31-05-2009, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by ash1977
unedited
lolz

=-Incognito-=

31-05-2009, 12:48 PM

Wierd thread. Surely it's basic math that more coverage is a good thing even if you do not watch it? Less coverage is bad because viewers are lost.

Simple.

BBDodge

31-05-2009, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Wierd thread. Surely it's basic math that more coverage is a good thing even if you do not watch it? Less coverage is bad because viewers are lost.

Simple.

I know, it's strange that BB forums should suddenly be so full of people celebrating the end of the 24/7 live feed.

Did these people post during past BBs saying they wished BB would cut the live feed?

Why have they turned against BB?

Patrick

31-05-2009, 01:41 PM

Well Alot of BB Viewers today (mainly young ones)
Didnt even watch BB1!!

And If you watched BB9 Live feed 24 hours a day like I Did, You would know that they very very rarely put bird noises on, so you cant even use that to insult them over Live Feed!

And The highlight show will be edited so the producers can fix it to whoever they want to win!
So you really need to think more about this before you bother posting such a stupid thread.

And BBLB Dosent even talk much about the Housemates they just get a bunch of stupid doctors and therapist, YAWN!
And Diary room uncut is axed, that was like one of our only ways to really get to know the housemates in the DR!

And BBBM Is only on one night a week!
Basically Live feed would be the only thing that keeps BB10 Going and they got rid of that, so this whole series will be crap and the least watched

Stu

31-05-2009, 01:47 PM

Nobody seems to be able to respond to my point that the live feed is also highly edited. Also, BBDodge, leave the patronisation to the pros mate. Nobody is celebrating live feed demise. We just aint jumping off bridges over the ****ing thing.

Twilight

31-05-2009, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Well Alot of BB Viewers today (mainly young ones)
Didnt even watch BB1!!

And If you watched BB9 Live feed 24 hours a day like I Did, You would know that they very very rarely put bird noises on, so you cant even use that to insult them over Live Feed!

And The highlight show will be edited so the producers can fix it to whoever they want to win!
So you really need to think more about this before you bother posting such a stupid thread.

And BBLB Dosent even talk much about the Housemates they just get a bunch of stupid doctors and therapist, YAWN!
And Diary room uncut is axed, that was like one of our only ways to really get to know the housemates in the DR!

And BBBM Is only on one night a week!
Basically Live feed would be the only thing that keeps BB10 Going and they got rid of that, so this whole series will be c**p and the least watched This:love:

Stu

31-05-2009, 02:04 PM

=-Incognito-=

31-05-2009, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by Stu
Nobody seems to be able to respond to my point that the live feed is also highly edited. Also, BBDodge, leave the patronisation to the pros mate. Nobody is celebrating live feed demise. We just aint jumping off bridges over the ****ing thing.

Your point is utterly mute. There's 40+ cameras in there and plenty of mics. They do not magically switch angles and inputs while filtering out naughtiness and swearing all by themselves. There's far more actual editors working on the highlight show so 'mildly edited' would be a much better description if you want to maintain any sort of meaningful context.

Stu

31-05-2009, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Originally posted by Stu
Nobody seems to be able to respond to my point that the live feed is also highly edited. Also, BBDodge, leave the patronisation to the pros mate. Nobody is celebrating live feed demise. We just aint jumping off bridges over the ****ing thing.

Your point is utterly mute. There's 40+ cameras in there and plenty of mics. They do not magically switch angles and inputs while filtering out naughtiness and swearing all by themselves. There's far more actual editors working on the highlight show so 'mildly edited' would be a much better description if you want to maintain any sort of meaningful context.
You think that is all they filter out? I have sat their like a complete moron in the past while perfectly tame, interesting discussions and tasks were blocked by close up shots of furniture and constant sound dips. At least watching the highlight show I know it is blatantly edited for a reason. The point still stands, and always will stand, that the live feed is edited just like the highlights show is. In fact, it is edited specificaly to save bits for the highlight show. I know which one im watching. All shows suffer editing to a degree. I would rather give in to Channel 4 and not pretend I am giving the finger to the system by watching the housemates sit at the edge of a pool for four hours.

=-Incognito-=

31-05-2009, 02:33 PM

I've seen enough of the live feed to know that it's been a waste of space at times. It's a hell of a lot better than nothing though.

I can't stop you ranting on, (and it is funny as I can empathise to a degree) but it's completely incorrect to dismiss it's usefulness altogether.

Stu

31-05-2009, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
I've seen enough of the live feed to know that it's been a waste of space at times. It's a hell of a lot better than nothing though.

I can't stop you ranting on, (and it is funny as I can empathise to a degree) but it's completely incorrect to dismiss it's usefulness altogether.
The problem for your point though is that I never dismissed it as being nothing. I love the feed, and I will be watching it on E4 during the nights this summer. But it is edited, and I had to point out the irony of that, given a lot of members main argument is that the live feed is some completely unedited, golden shiny tube of hope to see what goes on inside the house.

krayZ

31-05-2009, 03:39 PM

i can understand why people want it back, 23 hours of each BB day is lost with no live feed.

BBDodge

31-05-2009, 04:08 PM

There is some confusion of terminology here.

The live feed is censored to meet the editorial policy imposed by Channel 4.

But it is not edited to change the time frame of the events taking place in the house. When the unacceptable material finishes we return to the action "as live". Viewers are well aware of that when sitting through the cutaways, soundips and stock shots.

That's a whole different viewing experience from just having the highlights package, which is skillfully edited to create storylines and give a dramatic structure to the show.

This leaves two thirds of the day with nothing new to discuss.

Tom

31-05-2009, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by BBDodge
There is some confusion of terminolgy here.

The live feed is censored to meet the editorial policy imposed by Channel 4.

But it is not edited to change the time frame of the events taking place in the house. When the unacceptable material finishes we return to the action "as live". Viewers are well aware of that when sitting thorugh the cutaways, soundips and stock shots.

That's a whole different viewing experience from just having the highlights package, which is skillfully edited to create storylines and give a dramatic structure to the show.

This leaves two thirds of the day with nothing new to discuss.

But what some people can't grasp or accept is that the live feed was incredibly edited too. When discussing the live feed now it has gone, rose tinted glasses really does spring to mind.

Stu

31-05-2009, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by BBDodge
There is some confusion of terminology here.

The live feed is censored to meet the editorial policy imposed by Channel 4.

But it is not edited to change the time frame of the events taking place in the house. When the unacceptable material finishes we return to the action "as live". Viewers are well aware of that when sitting through the cutaways, soundips and stock shots.

That's a whole different viewing experience from just having the highlights package, which is skillfully edited to create storylines and give a dramatic structure to the show.

This leaves two thirds of the day with nothing new to discuss.
No, it is not just edited to meet editorial policy. Certain tasks, convorsations, and fights - bad language or not - are edited out to be saved for the highlights show.

midlandman

31-05-2009, 04:25 PM

right so it not a live feed if u think about it

=-Incognito-=

31-05-2009, 04:50 PM

I still don't understand where people are trying to go with this LF edit rubbish.

LF+next day's highlights = tons of coverage. The two aren't mutually exclusive you know!

Jackie

31-05-2009, 04:54 PM

Well i'm going to miss it i enjoyed watching live feed when i could.

bigfan

31-05-2009, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Rozartytype
The sound dips go on for more than just five minutes in each hour!Even for late night live coverage-well after the 'watershed'-there are still many,prolonged sound dips.
There is always a delay on so called 'live' transmissions anyway,so C4/Endermol could make a better editorial job than they do.
The SD's really detract from the live show.
Which also feeds an interesting point most live feed fanatics still dont get...

THE LIVE FEED IS EDITED.

Seriously, the amount of people going ''we get to watch raw 100% housemates!'' is unreal. No you dont. You get to watch, like a naive muppet, a half arsed live feed that merely acts as a playground for the production team to take bits out, add in sound dips, or focus the camera on a box for twenty minuets while you watch on like a robot.

We're not that daft, we all know the live feed is on a delay and edited. If you are happy to watch 45 minute highlight show then fine, but thats not for all of us. I watch because no matter what time of day or night i can watch what (if anything) is happening in the house, I and many other fans are not interested in watching a cheap soap opera.

Without LF the producers could be throwing the HMs a script just to fill the highlight show. Still if you're happy with that then sobeit:whistle:

Lil-Lindz

31-05-2009, 10:43 PM

The live feed is good to have on like in the back ground when your doing other stuff, cause you can take a glance and see what all the other housemates are up to.
but i wouldnt sit there and watch it like any other tv show.

RAS

31-05-2009, 10:44 PM

Its just gay.

No live feed is gay.:elephant:

Stu

31-05-2009, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by bigfan
Without LF the producers could be throwing the HMs a script just to fill the highlight show. Still if you're happy with that then sobeit:whistle:
Nice to see you are arguing around entirely facutal points, not made up hyperbole.

cleaner67

01-06-2009, 04:58 PM

Well i`ll miss live feed through the day and i`m not happy about it being stopped. Cann`t watch at night as i have to get up for work at 5am.

bigfan

01-06-2009, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by bigfan
Without LF the producers could be throwing the HMs a script just to fill the highlight show. Still if you're happy with that then sobeit:whistle:
Nice to see you are arguing around entirely facutal points, not made up hyperbole.

So do you think every thing we see on the highlights is factual?

It is my opinion that the producers can do whatever they like with these HM's during the day without live feed.

They can also portray them which ever way they like in the highlights, and often they do.

If I'm going to vote I prefer to get to know the HM's myself rather than Ch4's version of who they are.

:elephant:

dan-uk

01-06-2009, 10:50 PM

there no bblb isnt there:conf:

Stu

01-06-2009, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by bigfan
Without LF the producers could be throwing the HMs a script just to fill the highlight show. Still if you're happy with that then sobeit:whistle:
Nice to see you are arguing around entirely facutal points, not made up hyperbole.

So do you think every thing we see on the highlights is factual?

It is my opinion that the producers can do whatever they like with these HM's during the day without live feed.

They can also portray them which ever way they like in the highlights, and often they do.

If I'm going to vote I prefer to get to know the HM's myself rather than Ch4's version of who they are.

:elephant:
I never said the highlight show is factual. Read back over my posts. Also, the producers could so what they wanted with the housemates anyway, live feed or no live feed. What difference would it make? Was the diary room ever shown on the live feed?

bigbr0ther

01-06-2009, 11:57 PM

I never watched it because I found it boring but I appreciated its existence because it stopped the editors from being too manipulative. They could have made it entertaining if it weren't for the constant sound outages.

bigfan

02-06-2009, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by bigfan
Without LF the producers could be throwing the HMs a script just to fill the highlight show. Still if you're happy with that then sobeit:whistle:
Nice to see you are arguing around entirely facutal points, not made up hyperbole.

So do you think every thing we see on the highlights is factual?

It is my opinion that the producers can do whatever they like with these HM's during the day without live feed.

They can also portray them which ever way they like in the highlights, and often they do.

If I'm going to vote I prefer to get to know the HM's myself rather than Ch4's version of who they are.

:elephant:
I never said the highlight show is factual. Read back over my posts. Also, the producers could so what they wanted with the housemates anyway, live feed or no live feed. What difference would it make? Was the diary room ever shown on the live feed? Moron.

Why be so rude???? the live feed made a lot of difference to the people who watched or kept up to date on forums where fans wrote what was happening.

You only have to look at the low vieweing figures for CBB to know fans lose interest when they cut back on the very thingt hat made BB one of the top realty TV shows LIVE FEED:tongue::rolleyes:

bigbr0ther

02-06-2009, 12:31 AM

I personally wish the diary room had been shown on the live feed. Channel 4 works so hard to keep everything so secretive and I think it really works against them. The show would be much better if they were more open about things. Constant sound outages, not showing the diary room, and now removing the live feed completely. Why do they do it? What are they trying to cover up?

Stu

02-06-2009, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by bigfan

Why be so rude???? the live feed made a lot of difference to the people who watched or kept up to date on forums where fans wrote what was happening.

You only have to look at the low vieweing figures for CBB to know fans lose interest when they cut back on the very thingt hat made BB one of the top realty TV shows LIVE FEED:tongue::rolleyes:
Oh please. Dont use that pathetic argument that the Big Brother rating drop can be attributed to live feed. Celebrity Big Brother always gets slightly lower than the summer show.

frankieo

02-06-2009, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by midlandman
we coped without it b4 on the first big brother and i mean come on we don't watch all the time do we i think the highlight will be good this year and we have bblb so we don't need live feed i i wanted to hear birds anyway i go to birdland and as for the plane i go to a airport

if i recall, i watched it live on the internet some how when i was in school :conf2: