Emergency LF meeting!!!

[JohnnyBB]

Insider jacob says..

I’ve just heard from another production member that one of our producers is meeting a Channel 4 bigwig regarding the live feed situation.

Despite giving out a clear reason on the website for the reduction of live feed, we’re still receiving a lot of complaints every single day.

The problem isn’t at our end, but it’s Channel 4’s decision. We want the fans to enjoy the whole Big Brother experience and ideally that would include the live feed. However due to certain goals that Channel 4 have outside of our control, it’s not currently possible to offer the service.

It’s important to know, though, that this is not a “crisis meeting” or what have you. We’ve been happy about how the series has gone so far, but it’s important that the complaints are being addressed. It’s been the most complained about topic to Channel 4 over the last three months.

I am seriously not sure.

I know a lot of the staff including myself are angry about the negative reaction the show is getting especially by the big fans. Naturally we’re used to negative publicity by the wider public, but not my our own fans to such an extent.

We’re working harder than ever to produce a brilliant series. I think many will appreciate that the full house is extraordinary and a lot of work has gone into making it that good.

All I know is that the main topic of discussion for the meeting will be the complaints about the live feed. The likelihood is that Channel 4 won’t budge. Even if they did, the service would not be reinstated immediately, it would take time.

[LaLaLand]

Wheeey, maybe they've realised what an utter outrage they've caused within audiences! :tongue:

[xmynxiex]

I hope so!!! Fingers crossed..... :cheer2:

[Harry!]

Frigging too late and Frigging long time.

[DaniBoi]

Interesting...

[You_Tell_Me]

I hope so much that this is true... but i won't hold my breath. Fingers Crossed! :elephant:

[Jack_]

I bloody hope this is true, and if they decide to bring it back it'll be the best decision in the history of the show.

This series is set to be incredible by the looks of things, and the only thing that's missing is Live Feed.

I will be extremely happy if they decide to bring it back, which I don't think will happen. I might even send a thank you letter to C4 if they do tbh.

[President]

I'll state the obvious: Source? :spin:

[andyman]

They don't need to show it 24/7 but could show the live feed via red button from 6pm - 6am, and 11.05pm - 6pm on E4 (which has been the normal time so far)

[JohnnyBB]

Originally posted by President
I'll state the obvious: Source? :spin:

matt over on ibb he says "Hopefully the upcoming live feed crisis meeting will result in the LF being restored"

[cleaner67]

Originally posted by President
I'll state the obvious: Source? :spin: I .was just gonna say that

[President]

Originally posted by JohnnyBB
Originally posted by President
I'll state the obvious: Source? :spin:

matt over on ibb he says "Hopefully the upcoming live feed crisis meeting will result in the LF being restored"
Thanks. I just went over to ibb, and it was Jacob who said it in the banana story.

[JohnnyBB]

well if you a virgin media user the red button is still there but when you press the red button just comes with a sign saying channel4 are not giving additional live feed this year.....so red button is still there!

[Stentionhouse]

It's not an 'emergency' meeting. But it is a meeting between Endemol staff and people from C4 to discuss the 'overwhelmingly negative' feedback Endemol have been receiving with regard to BB10, mostly over the loss of LF. When the people actually making the show are extremely unhappy, you know something is very wrong....

[Stentionhouse]

Well, we haven't even had three full days of BB10 yet and thus far they've had the lowest ever audience for the live launch, the lowest ever audience for the first highlights show, and one of the lowest ever audiences of any kind, ever, last night. And that's despite poor weather and no significant competition.

Channel 4 have no choice but to bring back the live feed. Well, they do, but the alternative is to pull the show mid-series and lose a bucket load of cash.

[President]

How low would the ratings need to go for mid series axing?

[Tom4784]

I'd be surprised if they actually put more live feed on the schedules. Scheduling is ussually done months in advance, It'd be surprising if they changed the E4 schedules to fit in more Live Feed,

[JohnnyBB]

im getting worried now cause its looking more likely that its gonna get axed mid way if tonight is awfull id be very scared over at channel 4!!

[Tom]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Well, we haven't even had three full days of BB10 yet and thus far they've had the lowest ever audience for the live launch, the lowest ever audience for the first highlights show, and one of the lowest ever audiences of any kind, ever, last night. And that's despite poor weather and no significant competition.

Channel 4 have no choice but to bring back the live feed. Well, they do, but the alternative is to pull the show mid-series and lose a bucket load of cash.

Last night actually held up well in comparison to previous years Saturday shows. It wasn't the least watched ever show either. BB1 lost half of its audience overnight and had to build it back up again, and did so very well.

I think they need to leave it for a few days first (say Wednesday) and see how things settle, whether they increase or decrease then make a decision about live feed.

[Tom]

Originally posted by JohnnyBB
im getting worried now cause its looking more likely that its going to get axed mid way if tonight is awfull id be very scared over at channel 4!!

Oh stop being so melodramatic. Shameless doesn't get pulled half way through because it only gets 2.5m and thats a much more expensive show.

[A55A551N]

Any chance I can get a source link for this particular story on ibb here? Or, if Jacob could come over here and confirm this at all?

[President]

Originally posted by Tom
Last night actually held up well in comparison to previous years. It wasn't the least watched ever either. BB1 lost half of its audience overnight and had to build it back up again, and did so very well.
It was the second least watched Saturday highlights show ever- why can't you understand that?!

The 1st Saturday highlights show is usually one of the highest for Saturdays in the entire series. It is downhill from now on.

You can't compare it to BB1- that's absurd. Because BB1 was a completely new programme which no one knew about. Utterly stupid comparing it to that.

[President]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by JohnnyBB
im getting worried now cause its looking more likely that its going to get axed mid way if tonight is awfull id be very scared over at channel 4!!

Oh stop being so melodramatic. Shameless doesn't get pulled half way through because it only gets 2.5m and thats a much more expensive show.
Don't be so ridiculous.

The xpectations for Shameless are completely different to BB.

What you say sometimes is totally absurd.

[Matt08]

Fingers crossed. If they did decide to restore live feed then they'd do it via the red button as that doesn't interfere with the scheduling.

[A55A551N]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I'd be surprised if they actually put more live feed on the schedules. Scheduling is ussually done months in advance, It'd be surprising if they changed the E4 schedules to fit in more Live Feed,

They wouldn't need to change any scheduling...? The show would be played via the red button/interactive whilst the shows on E4 are still being played...?

[Fom]

Originally posted by JohnnyBB
im getting worried now cause its looking more likely that its going to get axed mid way if tonight is awfull id be very scared over at channel 4!!

The series won't get axed, the ratings are fine. Just not as much as previous series... still better than other program's.

Doubt live feed is coming back, they are just meeting to address the complaints and prove they are not ignoring them, if they think its what is best they will do that.

[President]

Originally posted by A55A551N
Any chance I can get a source link for this particular story on ibb here? Or, if Jacob could come over here and confirm this at all?
Go on ibb it's in the second banana story.

Read Jacob's comments.

[andyman]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I'd be surprised if they actually put more live feed on the schedules. Scheduling is ussually done months in advance, It'd be surprising if they changed the E4 schedules to fit in more Live Feed, No need to, E4 stays the same and the red button shows the live feed 6pm - 6am would not break the bank.
That is a good middle ground to make Channel 4 and viewers happy.

[Jack_]

I don't really think it'll be coming back though, I mean just look at how C4 have treated the show so far. They really need to think carefully because Big Brother is one of their biggest shows, and I think it's time they took into consideration that the fans want it back, and without the fans there would be no Big Brother.

I think they need to think about how much effort is being put into this series by Endemol, and how it looks so far to be one of the best series, IMO anyway.

[A55A551N]

Originally posted by President
Originally posted by A55A551N
Any chance I can get a source link for this particular story on ibb here? Or, if Jacob could come over here and confirm this at all?
Go on ibb it's in the second banana story.

Read Jacob's comments.

Yeah I have NO idea where that is? lol

[President]

Originally posted by A55A551N
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by A55A551N
Any chance I can get a source link for this particular story on ibb here? Or, if Jacob could come over here and confirm this at all?
Go on ibb it's in the second banana story.

Read Jacob's comments.

Yeah I have NO idea where that is? lol
http://tinyurl.com/nyds6l

Scroll down to the comments. You should see it.

[kirsty123]

hi:xyxwave: i really hope they do somthing about the live feed even if its just a couple of hs a day but be great 24/7:thumbs: im really missing it it don't feel the same all we see is them at night

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by President
How low would the ratings need to go for mid series axing?

I've heard an average of 1.8m. If it goes sub 1m for a week, it'll be pulled for sure.

[hullbb]

Originally posted by A55A551N
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by A55A551N
Any chance I can get a source link for this particular story on ibb here? Or, if Jacob could come over here and confirm this at all?
Go on ibb it's in the second banana story.

Read Jacob's comments.

Yeah I have NO idea where that is? lol
inside big brother(ibb)

[President]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Originally posted by President
How low would the ratings need to go for mid series axing?

I've heard an average of 1.8m. If it goes sub 1m for a week, it'll be pulled for sure.
It's averaging around 2-3 million at the moment (higher 2's).

So it looks like it will be fine.

Unless there's another mass switch off.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by JohnnyBB
im getting worried now cause its looking more likely that its going to get axed mid way if tonight is awfull id be very scared over at channel 4!!

Oh stop being so melodramatic. Shameless doesn't get pulled half way through because it only gets 2.5m and thats a much more expensive show.

Yes, but they can sell Shameless all over the world, and do. BBUK is a current thing and won't ever be repeated or sold to other markets.

[arista]

Originally posted by JohnnyBB
Insider jacob says..

I’ve just heard from another production member that one of our producers is meeting a Channel 4 bigwig regarding the live feed situation.

Despite giving out a clear reason on the website for the reduction of live feed, we’re still receiving a lot of complaints every single day.

The problem isn’t at our end, but it’s Channel 4’s decision. We want the fans to enjoy the whole Big Brother experience and ideally that would include the live feed. However due to certain goals that Channel 4 have outside of our control, it’s not currently possible to offer the service.

It’s important to know, though, that this is not a “crisis meeting” or what have you. We’ve been happy about how the series has gone so far, but it’s important that the complaints are being addressed. It’s been the most complained about topic to Channel 4 over the last three months.

I am seriously not sure.

I know a lot of the staff including myself are angry about the negative reaction the show is getting especially by the big fans. Naturally we’re used to negative publicity by the wider public, but not my our own fans to such an extent.

We’re working harder than ever to produce a brilliant series. I think many will appreciate that the full house is extraordinary and a lot of work has gone into making it that good.

All I know is that the main topic of discussion for the meeting will be the complaints about the live feed. The likelihood is that Channel 4 won’t budge. Even if they did, the service would not be reinstated immediately, it would take time.






They could say New from today
£3.99 a week
for 24/7 Uncut.
Brought to the Public by High Demand for this.

[=-Incognito-=]

Good news! We've known for some time that Endemol weren't happy about the situation and this looks like a concerted effort to put pressure on C4 or at least divert the complaints to the correct source.

But is it too late?

[A55A551N]

Thanks Pres!

As Jacob says though he doubts C4 Will budge >.<

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Fom
Originally posted by JohnnyBB
im getting worried now cause its looking more likely that its going to get axed mid way if tonight is awfull id be very scared over at channel 4!!

The series won't get axed, the ratings are fine. Just not as much as previous series... still better than other program's.

Doubt live feed is coming back, they are just meeting to address the complaints and prove they are not ignoring them, if they think its what is best they will do that.

Ratings are NOT fine. Edgar-Jones said 3m average needed for the show to continue. Needs at the very least 2.5m to be viable. Yes, other C4 shows get far fewer viewers, but they also cost a fraction to make.

Nope, things are seriously on the slide. The LF will return - or BB will be pulled.

[Patrick]

Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Tom
Last night actually held up well in comparison to previous years. It wasn't the least watched ever either. BB1 lost half of its audience overnight and had to build it back up again, and did so very well.
It was the second least watched Saturday highlights show ever- why can't you understand that?!

The 1st Saturday highlights show is usually one of the highest for Saturdays in the entire series. It is downhill from now on.

You can't compare it to BB1- that's absurd. Because BB1 was a completely new programme which no one knew about. Utterly stupid comparing it to that.

ugh, People are accually haven a small bit of hope of LF returning, why are you being so negetive! :mad:

[Tom]

Originally posted by President

It was the second least watched Saturday highlights show ever- why can't you understand that?!

The 1st Saturday highlights show is usually one of the highest for Saturdays in the entire series. It is downhill from now on.

You can't compare it to BB1- that's absurd. Because BB1 was a completely new programme which no one knew about. Utterly stupid comparing it to that.

It wasn't the least watched by a huge margin though was it? And series' buck ratings trends all the time, there is no reason why BB10 can't do the same.

Originally posted by President

Don't be so ridiculous.

The xpectations for Shameless are completely different to BB.

What you say sometimes is totally absurd.

Expectations and levels of profitability are two different things. The show will stay on air as long as it is profitable, and even if the ratings go below 2m, as it is a very cheap show to produce it will still be profitable, just not as profitable.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by A55A551N
Thanks Pres!

As Jacob says though he doubts C4 Will budge >.<

They'll budge. They're already sh*tting themselves because they thought just a few sad cases would be protesting...and instead they've got a massive backlash on their hands. C4 have a duty to their shareholders and are a public service broadcaster - no way are they getting public money if they continue to ride roughshod over their viewers. The govt. is watching them and they know it. This is an unmitigated PR disaster for Channel 4.

[bigfan]

Originally posted by Tom


Oh stop being so melodramatic. Shameless doesn't get pulled half way through because it only gets 2.5m and thats a much more expensive show.


BB only pulled in 2.1m last night including 4+ that's the lowest viewing figure ever for a Saturday night.

I think they will pull it, unless they do something dramatic to get the viewers back on side, but I don't think Ch4 care about the show any way.

Cant see them back tracking on the live feed issue.
:shocked:

[Tom]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by JohnnyBB
im getting worried now cause its looking more likely that its going to get axed mid way if tonight is awfull id be very scared over at channel 4!!

Oh stop being so melodramatic. Shameless doesn't get pulled half way through because it only gets 2.5m and thats a much more expensive show.

Yes, but they can sell Shameless all over the world, and do. BBUK is a current thing and won't ever be repeated or sold to other markets.

You're wrong, Endemol have sold BB3 and 4 to Poland.

[President]

Originally posted by Tom
Expectations and levels of profitability are two different things. The show will stay on air as long as it is profitable, and even if the ratings go below 2m, as it is a very cheap show to produce it will still be profitable, just not as profitable.
Channel 4 paid for the contract based on the fact that it was getting around 4.5 million.

If it falls to 2m consistently, then they won't be pleased at all.

It will result in the show being axed after its contract ends, or them paying so cheaply for the show and probably won't give a toss about it.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by JohnnyBB
im getting worried now cause its looking more likely that its going to get axed mid way if tonight is awfull id be very scared over at channel 4!!

Oh stop being so melodramatic. Shameless doesn't get pulled half way through because it only gets 2.5m and thats a much more expensive show.

Yes, but they can sell Shameless all over the world, and do. BBUK is a current thing and won't ever be repeated or sold to other markets.

You're wrong, Endemol have sold BB3 and 4 to Poland.

But BB10 won't be sold to other markets. The Polish deal was a one off thing in conjunction with Endemol.

[Cath444]

I am loving the show so far - the house is amazing, housemates are cool, loving everything really, but would just love more news reports on the Ch 4 website, and the live feed restored, then I would be truly happy...

[arista]

Originally posted by =-Incognito-=
Good news! We've known for some time that Endemol weren't happy about the situation and this looks like a concerted effort to put pressure on C4 or at least divert the complaints to the correct source.

But is it too late?


They can change it
saying By Public Demand.

[Tom]

Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Tom
Expectations and levels of profitability are two different things. The show will stay on air as long as it is profitable, and even if the ratings go below 2m, as it is a very cheap show to produce it will still be profitable, just not as profitable.
Channel 4 paid for the contract based on the fact that it was getting around 4.5 million.

If it falls to 2m consistently, then they won't be pleased at all.

It will result in the show being axed after its contract ends, or them paying so cheaply for the show and probably won't give a toss about it.

You're still missing the point though. If you look at what Channel 4 paid for BB10 alone (by dividing the overall cost up evenly), then the average cost per show, its a very low figure where 4 adverts could easily pay for each nightly show. Yes, the figures were once high and thats why the paid then, but it is still very profitable and even if the plug is pulled after next year, it won't be axed midway through the series just because it isn't rating as expected. As long as it is still making money, and it will be, then it will stay on air.

[Tom4784]

I'm siding with Tom on this. I'd give my own view but I think any points I say would have already been said in the thread.

[President]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Tom
Expectations and levels of profitability are two different things. The show will stay on air as long as it is profitable, and even if the ratings go below 2m, as it is a very cheap show to produce it will still be profitable, just not as profitable.
Channel 4 paid for the contract based on the fact that it was getting around 4.5 million.

If it falls to 2m consistently, then they won't be pleased at all.

It will result in the show being axed after its contract ends, or them paying so cheaply for the show and probably won't give a toss about it.

You're still missing the point though. If you look at what Channel 4 paid for BB10 alone (by dividing the overall cost up evenly), then the average cost per show, its a very low figure where 4 adverts could easily pay for each nightly show. Yes, the figures were once high and thats why the paid then, but it is still very profitable and even if the plug is pulled after next year, it won't be axed midway through the series just because it isn't rating as expected. As long as it is still making money, and it will be, then it will stay on air.
I accept the show is profitable. But it's nowhere near as good as it was even 3 years ago.

You tell me a television programme in British television that has lost more than 30% of viewers over the last 3 years. 30% is how much BB has lost. I doubt you can find an answer to that. Neighbours doesn't count because it moved from BBC1 to Five.

The fact is that BB's decline is so huge compared to what most other shows is seeing.

And what I'm amost annoyed with is the way fans are being treated. This is not BB without live feed.

You know perfectlty well from that posts I made a few weeks back that I was in favour of C4's decision. But I've done a complete U Turn on it because it's frankly obvious that this is not what the show is supposed to be about.

Fans are tuning off in their droves. It's highly embarrasing for C4 and Endemol.

[*mazedsalv**]

I really hope so!!!!!!1
They are running scared of the 2.2m of last night because of the head of C4 or something said this in reposnse to a complaint of a LF
"As long as ratings are over 3m we will not bring LF back" well how do you like 2.2m!!!! Mwahhaha!

[kirsty123]

Originally posted by Cath444
I am loving the show so far - the house is amazing, housemates are cool, loving everything really, but would just love more news reports on the Ch 4 website, and the live feed restored, then I would be truly happy...
100% agree and this bb looks like its going to be really good fingers crossed and its making me really mad that i can't watch:mad:

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

This would be fantastic news if LF was to come back:thumbs:

[*mazedsalv**]

I agree!
The petition is growing as well! 1050 signitures signed so far.

[Axiom]

The funny thing is, the live feed isn't even live rofl.
It has a 15 minute delay so producers can edit stuff and only show what they want you to see. Which is basically the same as what they do with the highlights show.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Axiom
The funny thing is, the live feed isn't even live rofl.
It has a 15 minute delay so producers can edit stuff and only show what they want you to see. Which is basically the same as what they do with the highlights show.

I can remember the good old days when the LF was not only not delayed, but was uncensored (online).

[ash1977]

I want my red button live feed, :cloud:

I have nothing to do not but complain all day. My family are sick listening to me winge.

[Axiom]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Originally posted by Axiom
The funny thing is, the live feed isn't even live rofl.
It has a 15 minute delay so producers can edit stuff and only show what they want you to see. Which is basically the same as what they do with the highlights show.

I can remember the good old days when the LF was not only not delayed, but was uncensored (online).

True I also remember that. It was actually live and allowed you to see tasks which was better than the red button delayed version

[Axiom]

Originally posted by ash1977
I want my red button live feed, :cloud:

I have nothing to do not but complain all day. My family are sick listening to me winge.

What the ****ery...why do you complain to your family about it :S:S

[A55A551N]

Originally posted by Axiom
The funny thing is, the live feed isn't even live rofl.
It has a 15 minute delay so producers can edit stuff and only show what they want you to see. Which is basically the same as what they do with the highlights show.

That isn't for the same purposes as they use the HL show for. It is "As Live" and only edited for the purpose of "personal info being divulged" "Swearing" etc.

And that in itself contradicts Channel 4's possible reason of cutting LF being to do w/ OFCOM.

[ash1977]

I complain to my family cos I am obsessed. Who else is there to listen to my winging?

[JohnnyBB]

lets us hope things go to plan!

[Jayson]

I guess were a fraction of a step closer to it being brought back.

[haggis]

getting my hopes up. but everything crossed for a back down and L.F returned.live feed through the red button and before they say it. it wont interfere with any of their scheduling.

FINGERS CROSSED BB FANS PEOPLE POWER

after all us fans make up 50% of the show, with out us the show would be axed

[Jayson]

Originally posted by haggis
getting my hopes up. but everything crossed for a back down and L.F returned.live feed through the red button and before they say it. it wont interfere with any of their scheduling.

FINGERS CROSSED BB FANS PEOPLE POWER

after all us fans make up 50% of the show, with out us the show would be axed
We make up the whole show, not 1/2, if the fans leave, then theyre all ducked, and at the mo the fans are leaving in thier thousands.

[BJ]

Keeping my fingers crossed for return of LF. Again, I'm not voting without it.

[Stentionhouse]

Anyone who supports the live feed and wants to see it back, don't forget to e-mail C4 to complain, and Endemol. Only by maintaining the pressure will we win (that and boycotting the main h/l show).

[Tom]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Anyone who supports the live feed and wants to see it back, don't forget to e-mail C4 to complain, and Endemol. Only by maintaining the pressure will we win (that and boycotting the main h/l show).

Endemol want the live feed back so its pointless emailing them.

[ash1977]

when and where is this meeting allegedly taking place and will we be informed of it's outcome?

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Anyone who supports the live feed and wants to see it back, don't forget to e-mail C4 to complain, and Endemol. Only by maintaining the pressure will we win (that and boycotting the main h/l show).

Endemol want the live feed back so its pointless emailing them.

It's not - it adds extra fuel when they talk to C4.

[*mazedsalv**]

Apparently Davina said on her twitter a few minutes ago

"The LF wont be coming back, not alot watching it"
WTF is her problem?? i used to like her!! But she's just completely being taken around by C4....

This is getting ridiculous, if the 2.2m from last night didnt wake them up, i wonder what will!

[Whenyoutouchme]

u lot or so sad about the live feed. **** sake get a life.

[lily.]

Am I the only one who's cynical about this dubious "insider"?

[A55A551N]

Originally posted by Whenyoutouchme
u lot or so sad about the live feed. **** sake get a life.

Says the person who makes an account (again) just to say that?

Pot - Kettle - Black. :)

[A55A551N]

Originally posted by lili
Am I the only one who's cynical about this dubious "insider"?

Probably.

Jacob has been pretty much spot on with a lot of stuff. He's an Endemol staffer, posts here and IBB.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally posted by lili
Am I the only one who's cynical about this dubious "insider"?
Everyone doubted him before the launch but he's guessed everything from this years series, eg. Housemates, crates in the house and the description he made of the lounge, and the pics been released and is exactly how he described it.

He also confirmed the eviction tonight by bus stop.

[A55A551N]

Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Originally posted by lili
Am I the only one who's cynical about this dubious "insider"?
Everyone doubted him before the launch but he's guessed everything from this years series, eg. Housemates, crates in the house and the description he made of the lounge, and the pics been released and is exactly how he described it.

He also confirmed the eviction tonight by bus stop.

He didn't "guess" any of that silly! lol he's the 'insider' remember. :thumbs:

Oh and speak for yourself when you say everyone, I've always believed Jacob :hugesmile:

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally posted by A55A551N
Originally posted by *mazedsalv**
Originally posted by lili
Am I the only one who's cynical about this dubious "insider"?
Everyone doubted him before the launch but he's guessed everything from this years series, eg. Housemates, crates in the house and the description he made of the lounge, and the pics been released and is exactly how he described it.

He also confirmed the eviction tonight by bus stop.

He didn't "guess" any of that silly! lol he's the 'insider' remember. :thumbs:

You know what i mean :bigsmile:

[Jen]

LET'S LOCK THOSE LYRICS.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Does anyone know when this meeting is taking place.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Anyone who supports the live feed and wants to see it back, don't forget to e-mail C4 to complain, and Endemol. Only by maintaining the pressure will we win (that and boycotting the main h/l show).

Endemol want the live feed back so its pointless emailing them.

It's not - it adds extra fuel when they talk to C4.

It is, emails must be shared with the production staff so no matter what route you go through then Endemol will get it anyway. Instead of wasting time emailing Endemol, email C4 and get more complaints logged. Everyone but C4 wants the LF back- its their minds that need changing, not Endemols confirming.

[Tom]

Originally posted by Jen
LET'S LOCK THOSE LYRICS.

Best post ever :joker: