Big Brother in turmoil.... Ratings down to 1.9m.....!!!

[President]

Ratings down to 1.9 million viewers.

Least watched Sunday episode ever.

Least watched eviction ever.

One of the least watched episodes of BB ever.

[*mazedsalv**]

Lol we posted at the same time.

Yepp, i told you.... its officially pretty much dead unless they do something QUICK

[Joelston]

President, is it really neccessary for you to post a thread every day which sys "RATINGS DOWN" "RATIGNS TURMOIL" "RATINGS DOWNWARD SPIRAL"

There is a ratings thread and whilst I am very itnerested in the ratings aspect of BB, some really aren't and i can see a fair bit of annoyance from others if you do this for the next 90-odd days

[haggis]

its a very fast sinking ship. its doomed face it guys

[John.]

ummmm.

The Apprentice Final


gawd, even i watched the apprentice over BB.

[haggis]

apprentice 9-10 by then we all knew who won.

big bore was 10-11.30 90 mins watching paint dry

sorry apprentice final or not bb is losing viewers every night

FACT FACT FACT

[John.]

NOPE NOPE NOPE. the Apprentice was on from 9 - 11

the winner was announced by 10 but then they had the "you're Hired/Fired" interviews at the end!


so of course it was going to be more popular! :pat:



BB is old. Apprentice is new! it's the way it is!

[fairymoon]

apprentice would have won over bb last night why is everyone saying it will be axed or its borning your ment to be fans mmmm ok

[Sam!]

FFS

STOP POSTING MORE RATINGS THREADS

my god!

[fairymoon]

well said sam

[President]

Originally posted by Joelston
President, is it really neccessary for you to post a thread every day which sys "RATINGS DOWN" "RATIGNS TURMOIL" "RATINGS DOWNWARD SPIRAL"

There is a ratings thread and whilst I am very itnerested in the ratings aspect of BB, some really aren't and i can see a fair bit of annoyance from others if you do this for the next 90-odd days
I won't do it every day.

But this is quite a significant number. It's extremely low.

[fairymoon]

cus of what was on bbc ffs it would be low

[John.]

They should know by now that BB isn't getting the viewers and so they shouldn't put it up against other big TV shows. ie The Apprentice,

That's just foolishness on the producer/directors behalf!

[Sam!]

Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Joelston
President, is it really neccessary for you to post a thread every day which sys "RATINGS DOWN" "RATIGNS TURMOIL" "RATINGS DOWNWARD SPIRAL"

There is a ratings thread and whilst I am very itnerested in the ratings aspect of BB, some really aren't and i can see a fair bit of annoyance from others if you do this for the next 90-odd days
I won't do it every day.

But this is quite a significant number. It's extremely low.

Yeh cause it was against The Apprentice.

[President]

Originally posted by Sam!
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Joelston
President, is it really neccessary for you to post a thread every day which sys "RATINGS DOWN" "RATIGNS TURMOIL" "RATINGS DOWNWARD SPIRAL"

There is a ratings thread and whilst I am very itnerested in the ratings aspect of BB, some really aren't and i can see a fair bit of annoyance from others if you do this for the next 90-odd days
I won't do it every day.

But this is quite a significant number. It's extremely low.

Yeh cause it was against The Apprentice.
Up against You're Hired.

But the point is, that Channel 4 were incompetent and stupid really to put Big Brother on so late until 23:40.

I don't think they'll be happy with 1.9m, do you?

[yousoboo!]

people say this every year! lol.

[You_Tell_Me]

This is a Big Brother forum. People can and will continue to post Big Brother related threads, good or bad. That is just the way is is. Stop telling people what they can and can't post!

[Billy]

1) Apprentice was on
2) They aren't in turmoil. We all knew it was going to go like this so pleaseeeee get over it.

[marctierman]

There were like over 7m that watched the Apprentice aftershow which clashed with BB, I was one of them.

[John.]

Originally posted by You_Tell_Me
This is a Big Brother forum. People can and will continue to post Big Brother related threads, good or bad. That is just the way is is. Stop telling people what they can and can't post!

no-one was telling anyone anything. people where just saying that there is an Official Ratings thread, and to post there? and not bother having countless threads every time there is a rating less than 2 million! :thumbs:

[Tom]

Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Sam!
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Joelston
President, is it really neccessary for you to post a thread every day which sys "RATINGS DOWN" "RATIGNS TURMOIL" "RATINGS DOWNWARD SPIRAL"

There is a ratings thread and whilst I am very itnerested in the ratings aspect of BB, some really aren't and i can see a fair bit of annoyance from others if you do this for the next 90-odd days
I won't do it every day.

But this is quite a significant number. It's extremely low.

Yeh cause it was against The Apprentice.
Up against You're Hired.

But the point is, that Channel 4 were incompetent and stupid really to put Big Brother on so late until 23:40.

I don't think they'll be happy with 1.9m, do you?

It was all under The Apprentice name last night though.

We'll see tonight if its as bad as we think. BB9 got the same slot last year and got between 2.7m and 3.3m so if it can't get in that bracket then something is up. If it can, then this weekend as probably just a blip.

[John.]

They should have really waited until this Thursday before launching.

It would have given people time to get over BGT and TheA.

[Spike]

President why do you have to make things more dramatic than they actually are?
and there is no need for a new ratings thread everyday!

[President]

Originally posted by Spike
President why do you have to make things more dramatic than they actually are?
and there is need for a new ratings thread everyday!
I won't do it everyday.

Just on major occasions.

This is a big occasion because it's one of the lowest ratings in history.

I'm not making anythign dramatic.

[Tom]

Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Spike
President why do you have to make things more dramatic than they actually are?
and there is need for a new ratings thread everyday!
I won't do it everyday.

Just on major occasions.

This is a big occasion because it's one of the lowest ratings in history.

I'm not making anythign dramatic.

What about if it breaks 3m, or even 4m? Will you make a thread then saying its back on track or are you only focused on negatives? And if you're not making anything dramatic then you wouldn't be using tabloid headlines as your thread titles.

[President]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Spike
President why do you have to make things more dramatic than they actually are?
and there is need for a new ratings thread everyday!
I won't do it everyday.

Just on major occasions.

This is a big occasion because it's one of the lowest ratings in history.

I'm not making anythign dramatic.

What about if it breaks 3m, or even 4m? Will you make a thread then saying its back on track or are you only focused on negatives? And if you're not making anything dramatic then you wouldn't be using tabloid headlines as your thread titles.
The show is expected to get around 3 million viewers. That is what Phil Edgar Jones said in the Sun before the launch. So if it did get that, there would be no need for a new thread as it would be rating as people before the series launch expected.

[M X]

I don't care, I just watch the programme.

[hannah.]

Originally posted by Joelston
President, is it really neccessary for you to post a thread every day which sys "RATINGS DOWN" "RATIGNS TURMOIL" "RATINGS DOWNWARD SPIRAL"

There is a ratings thread and whilst I am very itnerested in the ratings aspect of BB, some really aren't and i can see a fair bit of annoyance from others if you do this for the next 90-odd days

i love you Joel

[President]

Originally posted by MichaelSpears
I don't care, I just watch the programme.
Then don't read or respond to the thread then. :pat: :puzzled:

I don't care about many threads on here, so I don't read or contribute to them.

Maybe you should do the same. :wink:

[Tom]

Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by Spike
President why do you have to make things more dramatic than they actually are?
and there is need for a new ratings thread everyday!
I won't do it everyday.

Just on major occasions.

This is a big occasion because it's one of the lowest ratings in history.

I'm not making anythign dramatic.

What about if it breaks 3m, or even 4m? Will you make a thread then saying its back on track or are you only focused on negatives? And if you're not making anything dramatic then you wouldn't be using tabloid headlines as your thread titles.
The show is expected to get around 3 million viewers. That is what Phil Edgar Jones said in the Sun before the launch. So if it did get that, there would be no need for a new thread as it would be rating as people before the series launch expected.

If it almost (or does) break 4m then its rating better than expected so could deserve a thread. But after a poor weekend if tonight goes over 3m will you tomorrow be posting "RATINGS BACK ON FORM, BIG BROTHER NO LONGER IN TURMOIL"?

[Marc]

Originally posted by JD.
ummmm.

The Apprentice Final


gawd, even i watched the apprentice over BB.

:bigsmile:

[President]

Originally posted by Tom
If it almost (or does) break 4m then its rating better than expected so could deserve a thread.
PEJ said that the show should be getting 3m viewers on average, therefore he must be expecting higher for the eviction shows (Friday 9pm) as those are usually the biggest of the week. Therefore, a 4m rating for that would be nearly expected anyways, although from now on I admit it would be a decent achievemtn after the poor start made.

But after a poor weekend if tonight goes over 3m will you tomorrow be posting "RATINGS BACK ON FORM, BIG BROTHER NO LONGER IN TURMOIL"?
But 3m isn't good form. It's average. No need to write a thread about it going back to levels it expected.

If it went to 4m, yes I probably would.

[cleaner67]

Was pure stupidity putting it on against the apprentice final. Most people who had watched it all the way through would watch the final ( i didn`t though just going to watch it now ).

[Pheez]

Originally posted by President
Ratings down to 1.9 million viewers.

Least watched Sunday episode ever.

Least watched eviction ever.

One of the least watched episodes of BB ever.

Well are we surprised? The powers that be seem to be setting it up to fail.
No live feed (which a lot of people love), too many HMs to get to know initially and then this long drawn-out making HMs official process - which to be frank I have found quite boring.
As soon as we get to a managable number of HMs and their personalities start to show through it will improve as far as I'm concerned.
Personally I don't care about the live feed, but many BB fans do, so if they really care about what we think and what makes the show popular, they might have a re-think about that.

[Shep]

Everyone who is saying "Just stop moaning and watch it", you need to get this in your heads:

The Channel 4 "cut off" point is 1.8. This means if ratings sink lower than the designated cut off then the show will be axed.

Last night got 1.9 mil. We have 14 weeks to go.

Can you not see why people are worried?

[MarkWaldorf]

THE APPRENTICE FINAL

[fairymoon]

THE APPRENTICE FINAL god get that thats why it was so low

[Stentionhouse]

Do half the people here work for the C4 head-in-sand, positive spin department?

BB is dying. There is no way it can survive without C4 taking radical action. End of.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by fairymoon
THE APPRENTICE FINAL god get that thats why it was so low

And the launch was so low because...

And the first h/l got so few viewers because...

And Saturday's show was watched by only 2.2 million because...

No Apprentice or significant competition on those nights.

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Do half the people here work for the C4 head-in-sand, positive spin department?

BB is dying. There is no way it can survive without C4 taking radical action. End of.

Oh dear. Can't you just enjoy the show without the constant moaning at C4, E4 or the website? So what if you think its a 'dying show' - I DON'T CARE. I'm trying to enjoy what we've been given without attacking anything related to the show.

For me, it's not C4 that's ruining the show - it's you people. I'm sick of constant "I WANT LIVE FEED BACK", "WHERES THE UPDATES?" and "BB IS DEAD - RATINGS LOW" threads. Get the **** over it. It's a TV show for one, its not to be taken so seriously. You know really know why last nights ratings were so low, but its any old excuse to prove that Big Brother is dying so that you feel C4 will take some action to do what you want.

I'm not surprised viewers have turned off in recent years, it's not exactly the same but its a still show which provides C4 with consistant ratings good enough for their network. If you beat the show too much, it'll go and I cannot wait to see the people on here moaning that it's gone for good.

Some people actually enjoy Big Brother for what it is - a reality TV show that gives you something to watch each night through the summer. Just a bit of fun. Taking it so seriously is where all the problems begin.

[marctierman]

all you ratings obsessives...let it go. 10pm sunday night C4 1.8....AMAZING!! get over it...make your cup half full...big love! xxD


FROM DAVINA'S TWITTER
LISTEN TO HER PRESIDENT.

[Sam!]

Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Do half the people here work for the C4 head-in-sand, positive spin department?

BB is dying. There is no way it can survive without C4 taking radical action. End of.

Oh dear. Can't you just enjoy the show without the constant moaning at C4, E4 or the website? So what if you think its a 'dying show' - I DON'T CARE. I'm trying to enjoy what we've been given without attacking anything related to the show.

For me, it's not C4 that's ruining the show - it's you people. I'm sick of constant "I WANT LIVE FEED BACK", "WHERES THE UPDATES?" and "BB IS DEAD - RATINGS LOW" threads. Get the **** over it. It's a TV show for one, its not to be taken so seriously. You know really know why last nights ratings were so low, but its any old excuse to prove that Big Brother is dying so that you feel C4 will take some action to do what you want.

I'm not surprised viewers have turned off in recent years, it's not exactly the same but its a still show which provides C4 with consistant ratings good enough for their network. If you beat the show too much, it'll go and I cannot wait to see the people on here moaning that it's gone for good.

Some people actually enjoy Big Brother for what it is - a reality TV show that gives you something to watch each night through the summer. Just a bit of fun. Taking it so seriously is where all the problems begin.

****K YES MARK! Somepeople on here, ie moaning about ratings and shitt really need to get a life. It's a tv show, enjoy it or ****k off.

[Jacob]

It will pick up over the next few days Im sure:spin2:

[fairymoon]

well said sam

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Do half the people here work for the C4 head-in-sand, positive spin department?

BB is dying. There is no way it can survive without C4 taking radical action. End of.

Oh dear. Can't you just enjoy the show without the constant moaning at C4, E4 or the website? So what if you think its a 'dying show' - I DON'T CARE. I'm trying to enjoy what we've been given without attacking anything related to the show.

For me, it's not C4 that's ruining the show - it's you people. I'm sick of constant "I WANT LIVE FEED BACK", "WHERES THE UPDATES?" and "BB IS DEAD - RATINGS LOW" threads. Get the **** over it. It's a TV show for one, its not to be taken so seriously. You know really know why last nights ratings were so low, but its any old excuse to prove that Big Brother is dying so that you feel C4 will take some action to do what you want.

I'm not surprised viewers have turned off in recent years, it's not exactly the same but its a still show which provides C4 with consistant ratings good enough for their network. If you beat the show too much, it'll go and I cannot wait to see the people on here moaning that it's gone for good.

Some people actually enjoy Big Brother for what it is - a reality TV show that gives you something to watch each night through the summer. Just a bit of fun. Taking it so seriously is where all the problems begin.

If people like me don't continue to harp on, you will have no show to watch. It's that simple.

[Sam!]

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Do half the people here work for the C4 head-in-sand, positive spin department?

BB is dying. There is no way it can survive without C4 taking radical action. End of.

Oh dear. Can't you just enjoy the show without the constant moaning at C4, E4 or the website? So what if you think its a 'dying show' - I DON'T CARE. I'm trying to enjoy what we've been given without attacking anything related to the show.

For me, it's not C4 that's ruining the show - it's you people. I'm sick of constant "I WANT LIVE FEED BACK", "WHERES THE UPDATES?" and "BB IS DEAD - RATINGS LOW" threads. Get the **** over it. It's a TV show for one, its not to be taken so seriously. You know really know why last nights ratings were so low, but its any old excuse to prove that Big Brother is dying so that you feel C4 will take some action to do what you want.

I'm not surprised viewers have turned off in recent years, it's not exactly the same but its a still show which provides C4 with consistant ratings good enough for their network. If you beat the show too much, it'll go and I cannot wait to see the people on here moaning that it's gone for good.

Some people actually enjoy Big Brother for what it is - a reality TV show that gives you something to watch each night through the summer. Just a bit of fun. Taking it so seriously is where all the problems begin.

If people like me don't continue to harp on, you will have no show to watch. It's that simple.

And why would that be?

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Jacob
It will pick up over the next few days Im sure:spin2:

No, it won't. You know it'll get worse and worse. Look at the constant flood of unhappy people posting on the official C4 site. BB10 is haemorrhaging viewers at an alarming rate.

[Stentionhouse]

Originally posted by Sam!
Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Do half the people here work for the C4 head-in-sand, positive spin department?

BB is dying. There is no way it can survive without C4 taking radical action. End of.

Oh dear. Can't you just enjoy the show without the constant moaning at C4, E4 or the website? So what if you think its a 'dying show' - I DON'T CARE. I'm trying to enjoy what we've been given without attacking anything related to the show.

For me, it's not C4 that's ruining the show - it's you people. I'm sick of constant "I WANT LIVE FEED BACK", "WHERES THE UPDATES?" and "BB IS DEAD - RATINGS LOW" threads. Get the **** over it. It's a TV show for one, its not to be taken so seriously. You know really know why last nights ratings were so low, but its any old excuse to prove that Big Brother is dying so that you feel C4 will take some action to do what you want.

I'm not surprised viewers have turned off in recent years, it's not exactly the same but its a still show which provides C4 with consistant ratings good enough for their network. If you beat the show too much, it'll go and I cannot wait to see the people on here moaning that it's gone for good.

Some people actually enjoy Big Brother for what it is - a reality TV show that gives you something to watch each night through the summer. Just a bit of fun. Taking it so seriously is where all the problems begin.

If people like me don't continue to harp on, you will have no show to watch. It's that simple.

And why would that be?

Because if C4 aren't beaten with a bloody big stick, they'll sit back on their clueless arses until the damage is so great, there will be no way back for the show.

[=-Incognito-=]

Originally posted by marctierman
all you ratings obsessives...let it go. 10pm sunday night C4 1.8....AMAZING!! get over it...make your cup half full...big love! xxD


FROM DAVINA'S TWITTER
LISTEN TO HER PRESIDENT.

It's not hard to imagine Davina putting a brave face on things, her gurning is legendary. :tongue:

[Tom]

Originally posted by Shep
Everyone who is saying "Just stop moaning and watch it", you need to get this in your heads:

The Channel 4 "cut off" point is 1.8. This means if ratings sink lower than the designated cut off then the show will be axed.

Last night got 1.9 mil. We have 14 weeks to go.

Can you not see why people are worried?

Wheres your proof for this so called cut off point?

Originally posted by Stentionhouse
Do half the people here work for the C4 head-in-sand, positive spin department?

BB is dying. There is no way it can survive without C4 taking radical action. End of.

Theres no way BB can survive with a mainstream audience either. BB is past it as the show it was, its time to face it. No matter what they do it won't change anything.

Originally posted by Stentionhouse

And the launch was so low because...

And the first h/l got so few viewers because...

And Saturday's show was watched by only 2.2 million because...

No Apprentice or significant competition on those nights.

And between 2.3m and 2.5m watched most BB9 Saturday shows. Not really much of a difference.

5.1m launch- might be lowest but still higher than last years final and still won its slot by quite some margin

[=-Incognito-=]

Look, I know the negativity is irritating people but this is crunch time. We are witnessing the end of Big Brother. The quick-fix instant gratification audience and FM's aren't thinking long-term here.

These ratings are not enough to sustain another BB next year. People like President and especially Stentionhouse are assets to the BB community and are helping to raise awareness of the mismanagement of the show and their results because it effects everybody.

I think it's great that some people like the show as is, good for you, but you're in an ever decreasing minority. Ultimately we're all fans of BB but there's an unnecessary divide here between those who wish to remain ignorant of it's failiure and those that want to save it.

Of course there are differing opinions on how to save it ranging from flat out failiure so it can be picked up by a channel that'll do it justice, right to re-instatement of the red button coverage to widen access. Doing nothing and pretending it'll all be okay is not an option if you want to watch next year. While it might be relieving to swear at and ridicule those fighting for the survival of BB it's entirely rude and counterproductive.

[mustgetalife]

Big Brother is a very strange idea and a totally addictive programme to certain people, when there is any real controversy almost everybody seems to have watched it, but like any tv format it needs to stay fresh, 1.9 million is still good as that is almost all hard core fans who will watch every episode, just not as high as other years
I don't blame C4 or the hm's but the people who run BB are very arrogant and think that no matter what they do it is 'right' and obviously they need to do something and quick, if they wish the better figures
Here's a radical idea, how about a person that doesn't swear every 5 mins and can hold an intelligent conversation, or am I wasting my time
Both Rex and Darnell got on my nerves but they were fairly knowledgable and worth listening to:spin2:

[Shep]

Wheres your proof for this so called cut off point?

It was either Phil Edgar Jones that stated it somewhere or another producer. On there twitter or website.

That's how shows work, 1.9 mil may seem like a lot to people here but to buisnesses like C4 it is scraps. If a show sinks below a designated "Limbo line" the show is axed and another show is brought in to make up for those lost ratings - most often a film as that pulls in about 3-4mil to supplement the time as they figure out what will go in the free time slot.

It's a simple concept, and one that has been in operation for many years.

[bluehill]

:bawling: i dont bb to go.
well i think they will carryon till the end of this bb10 and then will see. but nothing is happing next week. unless something major happens in bb to get the headlines. it will get lower and lower. i think 1.9 million isnt the lowest its gonna get i think the lowest its gonna get is about 900,000 at peak i dont want bb to go but if it goes for a few years then starts agian later i think it may have a chance. :spin: