Wish Karly would not smoke

[Clockers]

As an ex smoker and lover of hot girls I wish Karly would not smoke. Lovely voice, great eyes, nice features and a world class arse, she does not need to smoke.

[karlyashworth]

I couldn't agree more.

I was shocked to see it myself!

[TheOfficialAdam]

karly isnt hot.
shes got an evil look.
plus not really surprised to see her smoke, she looks the type

[oxy80]

ye brits got weird taste
she's a good looking person but its nothing special i see girls like her every day.
ass is not that amazing either
i'd still throw it tho

[Clockers]

Did you not cop a good look at her rear end whilst she was cleaning the windows, I was infatuated by it, I wanted to go on bended knee and propose to it. Karly's arse had me in a trance, and the editors teased the viewers by not doing a longer segment on her bum.

I think Karly has striking features and lovely big eyes, I find her very attractive. Anyway which straight male would say no to shaging Karly, obviously I wouldnt.

[TheOfficialAdam]

i would say no, i dont need an STD right now from the dirty goldigger

[Josy]

Originally posted by karlyashworth
I couldn't agree more.

I was shocked to see it myself!

Im surprised your "Boss" did not already know about Karly smoking since they are so loved up etc.

:whistle:

[karlyashworth]

Originally posted by josycee
Originally posted by karlyashworth
I couldn't agree more.

I was shocked to see it myself!

Im surprised your "Boss" did not already know about Karly smoking since they are so loved up etc.

:whistle:

She said she stopped! We blame the boredom of going into "hiding" that made her start again... This was a considerable period she was detached from Society (the period before the show).

[Josy]

Originally posted by karlyashworth
Originally posted by josycee
Originally posted by karlyashworth
I couldn't agree more.

I was shocked to see it myself!

Im surprised your "Boss" did not already know about Karly smoking since they are so loved up etc.

:whistle:

She said she stopped! We blame the boredom of going into "hiding" that made her start again... This was a considerable period she was detached from Society (the period before the show).

Did she take some in with her :puzzled: maybe it was just being around Lisa and the other smokers that made her want to have 1, she will probably find it even harder to stop again now :shrug:

[karlyashworth]

Originally posted by josycee
Originally posted by karlyashworth
Originally posted by josycee
Originally posted by karlyashworth
I couldn't agree more.

I was shocked to see it myself!

Im surprised your "Boss" did not already know about Karly smoking since they are so loved up etc.

:whistle:

She said she stopped! We blame the boredom of going into "hiding" that made her start again... This was a considerable period she was detached from Society (the period before the show).

Did she take some in with her :puzzled: maybe it was just being around Lisa and the other smokers that made her want to have 1, she will probably find it even harder to stop again now :shrug:

The Boss cannot stand smokers.

She will stop when she comes out.

Not even negotiable!

[President]

The Boss cannot stand smokers.

She will stop when she comes out.

Not even negotiable!
Why do you say really weird things like "The Boss"?

If that is Karly's boyfriend, why don't you just say "Karly's Boyfriend".

I seriously am suspicious of you, and think you're a WUM to get people to hate Karly./

[Clockers]

whats a WUM and I am suspicious of this person speaking about Karly's Boss/Boyfriend.

[President]

Originally posted by Clockers
whats a WUM and I am suspicious of this person speaking about Karly's Boss/Boyfriend.
Wind up merchant. Here to cause trouble. I really can't believe they'd be Karly Ashworth's representative because all they say are bad things about her!

[Clockers]

I concur, but WUM is too nice. Someone to come online on a regular basis and claim to be Karly's representive has the crossed the insanity line. 2 cans short of a 6 pack.

[PMC42]

Originally posted by Clockers
I concur, but WUM is too nice. Someone to come online on a regular basis and claim to be Karly's representive has the crossed the insanity line. 2 cans short of a 6 pack.

Couldn't put it better myself, not the full shilling!

[Prole]

Originally posted by Clockers
Did you not cop a good look at her rear end whilst she was cleaning the windows....

You mean where she'd pulled her knickers up the crack of her a*se? Oh yeah, we all saw it. She has got a great body. I would probably like her more if that wasn't all she had to offer.

[AnitaBiernow]

if you like her a**, good for you - enjoy it.
As I see it, as long as a woman is 90% naked, British men oogle and love that woman (no matter what the face looks like [see DOGface, for a perfect example!]).

Karly only has gorgeous eyes (so I THINK. IF she'd only remove 10kilos of that slap, she'd look like a dug, I imagine.)

When a woman's behind is the same width of her thighs, I can assure you, it's not really a womanly a**.
She looks like a 12 y.o. boy walking away.

so walk on, Karly. (there's a head on that boyish body, but NOTHING up there aside from Scottish RAGE).

[Clockers]

Originally posted by AnitaBiernow
if you like her a**, good for you - enjoy it.
As I see it, as long as a woman is 90% naked, British men oogle and love that woman (no matter what the face looks like [see DOGface, for a perfect example!]).

Karly only has gorgeous eyes (so I THINK. IF she'd only remove 10kilos of that slap, she'd look like a dug, I imagine.)

When a woman's behind is the same width of her thighs, I can assure you, it's not really a womanly a**.
She looks like a 12 y.o. boy walking away.

so walk on, Karly. (there's a head on that boyish body, but NOTHING up there aside from Scottish RAGE).

Karly is more than arse to me, she is a much more interesting housemate than the other blonde. Sophie has had my wrath on this forum for being a boring bitch, and as useful as a 5th wheel. I am only praising Karly cos there is more to her.

[AnitaBiernow]

if what you claim "more to her" is equal to "having a hot a**", congratulations. Well done.

I, on the other hand, find most the contestants boring because they're literally rotting in the house. BB producers are commended (kudos!) for dropping the show after this season, because the show is absolute SHI**! The tasks are enough to entertain a one year old baby.
The show is boring.
So, no wonder Karly is 'interesting compared to the others'.

they really need to get DECENT tasks and maybe, drop some more people into the house.

[Indierock&roll]

its her choice to smoke

[AnitaBiernow]

yes, obviously she has the choice to smoke.
she also has the choice to take heroin, to jump in front of a moving bus, etc.

When someone's civil liberties interfere and impede on my civil liberties... the law sides with me.

Anyone that finds any excuse to justify smoking is really ignorant and chooses to ignore science, and, they clearly don't understand the laws.

I don't blow farts directly into your lungs, quit blowing your carcinogens into mine.
thankyou.

[Clockers]

Originally posted by AnitaBiernow
yes, obviously she has the choice to smoke.
she also has the choice to take heroin, to jump in front of a moving bus, etc.

When someone's civil liberties interfere and impede on my civil liberties... the law sides with me.

Anyone that finds any excuse to justify smoking is really ignorant and chooses to ignore science, and, they clearly don't understand the laws.

I don't blow farts directly into your lungs, quit blowing your carcinogens into mine.
thankyou.

As an ex smoker i agree with Anita, smoking is illogical and ruins your health. Karly is so fine that if she smokes she will age quicker and her looks will fade sooner. Why do that to yourself?

I am an ex cigerette smoker and cannabis smoker and now I am detoxed I realise it the best thing that i could have done.

[AnitaBiernow]

if that isn't the funniest oxymoron I've read all day!

a cannabis smoker = detoxified.

go visit the REH in Edinburgh, go speak to the researches on 'cannabis smoking and the damage to cellular nerve cells in the brain'.

there is a big and logical reason why they'll never legalise the drug.

(remember, it's a DRUG and the toxins going into your lungs and triggering DNA to switch gene/protein growth on/off... unless you've studied it, you have no idea.)

[30stone]

I wish all women wouldn't smoke.

[HELLIWONTGO]

Originally posted by AnitaBiernow
yes, obviously she has the choice to smoke.
she also has the choice to take heroin, to jump in front of a moving bus, etc.

When someone's civil liberties interfere and impede on my civil liberties... the law sides with me.

Anyone that finds any excuse to justify smoking is really ignorant and chooses to ignore science, and, they clearly don't understand the laws.

I don't blow farts directly into your lungs, quit blowing your carcinogens into mine.
thankyou.


Do you drive????:yuk:

[haggis]

ok i dont like the smell of smoke, etc, but nothing against people like to smoke,
and hey i defo wouldnt chuck her out the bed for lighting up an after ciggy smoke,
id just stick my head under the covers.........................so i didnt smell the smoke..... never know might find something under there to do while she was havng her smoke.:cheer2::wink::tongue::tongue::tongue::tongu e:

[karlyashworth]

Karly shouldn't smoke.

I assure you I am authentic.

[haggis]

Originally posted by karlyashworth
Karly shouldn't smoke.

I assure you I am authentic.

ok prove it hun

[karlyashworth]

Originally posted by haggis
Originally posted by karlyashworth
Karly shouldn't smoke.

I assure you I am authentic.

ok prove it hun

What would you propose?

[Stu]

Originally posted by AnitaBiernow
if that isn't the funniest oxymoron I've read all day!

a cannabis smoker = detoxified.

go visit the REH in Edinburgh, go speak to the researches on 'cannabis smoking and the damage to cellular nerve cells in the brain'.

there is a big and logical reason why they'll never legalise the drug.

(remember, it's a DRUG and the toxins going into your lungs and triggering DNA to switch gene/protein growth on/off... unless you've studied it, you have no idea.)
[MASSIVE RANT]

Rubbish. Their has been no CONCLUSIVE scientific verification on anything you have said about Cannabis. For every report saying what you have just said, their is another saying otherwise. Reports and studies do not = fact.

So if a substance damages DNA (a mutagen), it must be a carcinogen... right? wrong. Without getting too far into it, there are several kinds of DNA mutations that occur every day. Some are not as bad as others, and our cells have several "check points" when reproducing to correct any mistakes in DNA. If the DNA cannot be repaired the cell self-destructs and does not undergo mitosis (cell division). To allude to the conclusion that because a substance is a mutagen that it is a carcinogen is just not true and misleading.

You cant stop people from smoking a plant that grows naturally, and you cant uphold Cannabis illegality as being a CREDIBLE concept when their are more dangerous drugs that are LEGAL. If people are going to smoke it anyway, which they will, because prohibition has failed [another FACT], then you may as well facilitate it.

Cannabis automaticaly becomes safer if you legalise it. And that is a fact. The criminal element and the contamination element involved both outweigh any possible carinogenic element. The MEDICAL BENEFITS of the plant also outweigh any possible harm it could do. They dont have medicinal marijuana for nothing. Plus if it were legalsied they could simply sell it in food product form. No inhalation.

And unless you hang around smokers all day, please, stop overhyping this whole second hand smoke rubbish. What about people who get tanked on alcohol and jump on people or bottle them? Or beat their wives? Or knock over children with cars? Are they not infringing on the rights of others?

Besides, to begin with, Cannabis is not illegal because of health. It was ushered into being banned before any conclusive evidence for it's harm came out. It was banned based on the fact that it was an apparently insanity inducing drug that would make you jump out windows and kill your girlfriend for a 'fix'. It was banned because, well, it was in trade with Mexicans and Blacks. It was banned in America based on racist philosophies. It has been kept banned due to various lobbyist from the Tobacco, Alcohol and Oil industrys, who would all lose a share of profits if a benign, non toxic plant that induces a relatively mild effect on the body could both be used for food, enjoyment and as a source of fibre, energy and raw material for the future.

People seemed to smoke it for hundreds and thousands of years and live to old, healthy ages perfectley fine, until the turn of the 20th century. ****, what a coincidence!

It is also banned due to the fact that it simply did not fit in with some power-mongers view of the world. Alcohol is a very masculine, materialist drug that centers on the ego. Cannabis is more innocent. We cant have people going around smoking Cannabis perhaps realising they dont need all the **** the government tries to peddle to them, do we?

How are world governments meant to sell us products, mobilise us into armies to fight on their behalf, and defend nuclear budgets when people can grow plants for free in their homes, lay on the grass, and just muse ''Man ... I love ... EVERYTHING''.

Cure your ignorance. Because ignorance is a killer. A much bigger killer than a plant that you cannot overdose on and that acts on the system by utilising existing receptors that are already present in our systems could ever hope to be.

Religion, racism, knives, boiling kettles, boxes of paracetamol, vending machines, sharks and falling coconuts all > Cannabis in terms of danger.

[/MASSIVE RANT]

[peacemaker]

Originally posted by Clockers
As an ex smoker and lover of hot girls I wish Karly would not smoke. Lovely voice, great eyes, nice features and a world class arse, she does not need to smoke.

i agree lol "world class arse", i've heard it all now

[AnitaBiernow]

Rubbish. Their has been no CONCLUSIVE scientific verification on anything you have said about Cannabis. For every report saying what you have just said, their is another saying otherwise. Reports and studies do not = fact.




wow. you are ignorant.

like I said, until you read the unpublished research happening at the REH, you just keep telling yourself what you want to believe.

go light up, you genius!

and by the way, you've got a lot to learn there.

[Stu]

I am ignorant? I provided you with a brick wall of arguments and you responded to two lines. Your entire argument is simply ''well, their is this unpublished sorta research ongoing...''.

Then you still have the balls to make a smart arse ''go and light up'' comment on MY intelect? :joker::joker::joker:

And I made a case dismissing that a mutagen is automaticaly a carcinogenic. Which, even if it was, Cannabis would still become safer if it were made legal. That is a fact and their is no way around it. No buying from criminals, no giving money to criminals, no contaminations with glass, lead, boot polish, and frigging glue. No potency inconsistencies, the possibility to simple EAT Cannabis instead of smoke it. The list goes on.

And also, again, so far their is more proven things Cannabis acts as a pain releif and medecine for than their is evidence to suggest it is harmful!

So really, again, are my ignorant?

[AnitaBiernow]

Originally posted by Stu
I am ignorant? I provided you with a brick wall of arguments and you responded to two lines. Your entire argument is simply ''well, their is this unpublished sorta research ongoing...''.

And I made a case dismissing that a mutagen is automaticaly a carcinogenic. Which, even if it was, Cannabis would still become safer if it were made legal. That is a fact and their is no way around it. No buying from criminals, no giving money to criminals, no contaminations with glass, lead, boot polish, and frigging glue. No potency inconsistencies, the possibility to simple EAT Cannabis instead of smoke it. The list goes on.

And also, again, so far their is more proven things Cannabis acts as a pain releif and medecine for than their is evidence to suggest it is harmful!

So really, again, are my ignorant?

honey, I'll spell it out for you:

I WORKED at the REH with geneticists and neurologists and psychiatrists who did the research/studies for my own eyes. I saw the results on the MRI scans.

you go on, keep reading all the pseudo-science and stay brain-washed and entertain us all!

[hannah.]

****ing hell stu I got halfway through that and I was thinking '**** he is good' but I couldn't read on. that was an INSANELY huge rant, I might read it in chapters.

as far as I'm concerned no matter whether it is bad for you or not I'll still have the odd spliff and the same goes for smoking


and whoever said it was ignorant to say smoking is the smokers choice is so hypocritical it made me laugh aloud.

and also I very very much doubt that karly cares about your opinion on her smoking.

[Stu]

Originally posted by hannah.
****ing hell stu I got halfway through that and I was thinking '**** he is good' but I couldn't read on. that was an INSANELY huge rant, I might read it in chapters.

as far as I'm concerned no matter whether it is bad for you or not I'll still have the odd spliff and the same goes for smoking


and whoever said it was ignorant to say smoking is the smokers choice is so hypocritical it made me laugh aloud.

and also I very very much doubt that karly cares about your opinion on her smoking.
Best point of the thread thus far, right their.

[Stu]

Originally posted by AnitaBiernow
Originally posted by Stu
I am ignorant? I provided you with a brick wall of arguments and you responded to two lines. Your entire argument is simply ''well, their is this unpublished sorta research ongoing...''.

And I made a case dismissing that a mutagen is automaticaly a carcinogenic. Which, even if it was, Cannabis would still become safer if it were made legal. That is a fact and their is no way around it. No buying from criminals, no giving money to criminals, no contaminations with glass, lead, boot polish, and frigging glue. No potency inconsistencies, the possibility to simple EAT Cannabis instead of smoke it. The list goes on.

And also, again, so far their is more proven things Cannabis acts as a pain releif and medecine for than their is evidence to suggest it is harmful!

So really, again, are my ignorant?

honey, I'll spell it out for you:

I WORKED at the REH with geneticists and neurologists and psychiatrists who did the research/studies for my own eyes. I saw the results on the MRI scans.

you go on, keep reading all the pseudo-science and stay brain-washed and entertain us all!
Honey, I will spell it out for you EVEN IF CANNABIS WERE CARCINOGENIC, WHICH IT HAS YET TO BE PROVEN IN LARGE SCALE, INTERNATIONAL, PUBLISHED, FACTUAL REPORTS, IT. WOULD. STILL. BE. FAR. SAFER. LEGAL. THAN. IT. WOULD. ILLEGAL.

Nice to see all those times spent with the experts could not help your astounding ability to ignore entire blocks of valid arguments.

[hannah.]

stu is definitely right about it becoming much safer if legalised, although it works better in theory than it would in practice purely because there'd be a year in which everyone (apart from people like anita) would be stoned non stop.
although that would be a brilliant year.

[Stu]

Originally posted by hannah.
stu is definitely right about it becoming much safer if legalised, although it works better in theory than it would in practice purely because there'd be a year in which everyone (apart from people like anita) would be stoned non stop.
although that would be a brilliant year.
The Netherlands has a much lower Cannabis useage rate amongst it's natives than most countries, including the UK. And their it is tolerated in small amounts in designated areas.

It would still be quiet the year though :thumbs2:.

[hannah.]

yeah itd definitely calm down but there would be that bit where everyone took advantage. its like when I get a new pack of baccy, I smoke loads just because I can. hahaha

[Stu]

Originally posted by hannah.
yeah itd definitely calm down but there would be that bit where everyone took advantage. its like when I get a new pack of baccy, I smoke loads just because I can. hahaha
I catch your drift. Their would be a celebration on the streets that first day of it being legal. I guarantee you not one person would start a fight either :whistle:.

I do that with the auld baccy too. Much worse during the summer. I get so bored in the mornings I just go out to have a fag every four minuets!

[AnitaBiernow]

that's because all the citizens of the Netherlands are smart enough to stay off the drug.
duh.

Furthermore, it's fallacious to conclude that because the chemicals in marijuana have been found to present fewer dangers than herorin, cocaine, booze and fags -- all extremely harmful substances-- the medical or recreational use of marijuana is perfectly safe.

still, it's your choice to destroy the very cells that can neith repair nor regenerate themselves. happy smoking!

[Stu]

Originally posted by AnitaBiernow
that's because all the citizens of the Netherlands are smart enough to stay off the drug.
duh.

Furthermore, it's fallacious to conclude that because the chemicals in marijuana have been found to present fewer dangers than herorin, cocaine, booze and fags -- all extremely harmful substances-- the medical or recreational use of marijuana is perfectly safe.

still, it's your choice to destroy the very cells that can neith repair nor regenerate themselves. happy smoking!
Wow. You managed to ignore my argument. Again. And all with the piss poor English language skills that characterised your previous posts. Whats that you said about destroying brain cells?

You are right on one thing - it is my choice. Why then, I wonder, does society deem me worthy to be in cages built for murderers and child molestors?

[hannah.]

anita why dont you go and have a smoke, it might open up your mind a bit dear

[Stu]

Originally posted by hannah.
anita why dont you go and have a smoke, it might open up your mind a bit dear
No! Never! Even occasional smoking of Cannabis, for enjoyment [what the hell IS that anyway?!] will destroy VITAL brain cells! And will make you instantly thick! Some guys she worked with say so!

Lets all destroy the fun things in life. Their. Now we are going to live a lot longer. And with a whole lot less to live for.

[30stone]

Lets leave this now, before i have to close it, play nice.

[hannah.]

oh stu! that last comment about living longer. I live by it and want it on my gravestone.
why the fcuk is the point in giving up things that I enjoy because I may live 10 years longer
when I also may get hit by a bus tomorrow.

load of bollocks. some people are too busy looking down their noses at people to consider the fact that they might actually be doing things because they ENJOY them

[AnitaBiernow]

aw, poor baby. Can't find 'fun' so you resort to illegal drugs and insulting complete strangers on a forum.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2892048

since cannabis has only been in use for a mere 3 decades, and not enough long-term research has been completed yet (e.g. look how long it took for the REAL capable scientists to beat the tobacco companies reign of pseudo-science) you go and break the law and hang wiht the losers at the pub down the street. nighty night!

[hannah.]

ben there is absolutely no need to close this, there have been no unnecessary insults from anyone. its a debate.

[Stu]

Originally posted by AnitaBiernow
since cannabis has only been in use for a mere 3 decades,
Oh. My. God.

[AnitaBiernow]

"People seemed to smoke it for hundreds and thousands of years and live to old, healthy ages perfectley fine, until the turn of the 20th century. ****, what a coincidence!" --Stu


how funny. we still can't stop laughing at your 'scientific evidence'

yes, our ancestors sat around smoking weed for (what did you claim?) "hundreds and thousands of years" whilst fighting the ravages of starvation, disease, wars, etc.
right.

and, since when did our ancestors live to 'healthy' and 'old' ages?

the operative word you used in your argument: seemed.

duh.

still, thanks for the laughs!

[Stu]

Not our ancestors. Silly. Cannabis growth has never exactly thrived naturally in this climate. You clearly have no idea what your talking about.





Now, some more points, kids...

1. Your insulting me by assuming I cant have fun anywhere else just because I smoke.

2. You are also insulting me by making a big deal out of the fact that I am smoking something illegal, even though you have agreed that legal substances like Alcohol are far more harmful.

3. You still have not responded to my main argument that Cannabis becomes safer if legalised. Because you cant. Criminal drug gangs and Cannabis contamination are both far more dangerous than the threat of carcinogens from a plant people are going to smoke be it illegal or legal. Therefore, it becomes safer legal. More quality control. Taxes and profits to governments who can fund research and use the money to help hard drug problems. Or would you rather criminals kept the Cannabis profits?

4. You continue to both spell poor and make horrible assumptions [losers at the pub] on my entire personality and mode of lifestyle just because I choose to smoke a plant that damages nobody but me. Certainly not a show of braincells on your part.

5....... (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/)





Enjoy. And be sure to post back with your next point dodging, bullet munching, garbage spewing post. I plan to collect your posts, print them, and use the sheet as some form of rudimentary rolling paper in the future. You just got rattled by a stoner, baby.

[hannah.]

stu will you marry me please

[Stu]

Originally posted by hannah.
stu will you marry me please
Name your day. We can live fast and die young, baby :wink:.

[hannah.]

let's have a SPECIAL wedding cake

[Clockers]

Thanks for hjacking my thread guys, this was suppose to be about Karly, her arse and her smoking, now u made it into a topical debate about drugs.

I give my 2 pennies worth, as a reformed drug addict I can tell u that smoking cannabis ****s your brain up. My memory not the same as it use to be, i get pissed off when not smoking and cannot go day without getting high and must have a spliff before bed time. It was the hardest time in mylife to get off weed, I smoked it so much it was apart of my DNA.

Stu u worship the GRADE aka FOOD so much your signature is "Bong Brother". You obviously cannot live without and probably addicted to it. Cannabis is not cool, it does harm, and everyone i knew on it are ****ed up some way or another.

[Ketman]

Wow! If people have been smoking cannabis for "a mere 3 decades", I have to count myself highly privileged! I first smoked it in 1968. That dates me, doesn't it?

For what it's worth, I concur with Clockers. It *****s you up, alright. Luckily I kicked all that before my mid-twenties, with no harm done (I think). If you want to expand your mind, take up meditation. Don't mess with chemicals of any sort. And don't trust any ex-hippies except me.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Clockers
Thanks for hjacking my thread guys, this was suppose to be about Karly, her arse and her smoking, now u made it into a topical debate about drugs.

I give my 2 pennies worth, as a reformed drug addict I can tell u that smoking cannabis ***** your brain up. My memory not the same as it use to be, i get p****d off when not smoking and cannot go day without getting high and must have a spliff before bed time. It was the hardest time in mylife to get off weed, I smoked it so much it was apart of my DNA.

Stu u worship the GRADE aka FOOD so much your signature is "Bong Brother". You obviously cannot live without and probably addicted to it. Cannabis is not cool, it does harm, and everyone i knew on it are ****** up some way or another.
It's not my problem you had no control over a drug which causes mental cravings. I have very little sympathy for you their. How can you pass such a harsh judgement on me being an 'addict' when you dont even know me? I have been smoking it for 2 years and have often taken entire month long breaks just for the heck of it, so it is more fun the next time. Dont put me in the addict basket just because it is where you ended up.

Just because I am into it, believe in the culture, believe in the positive benefits of the plant, and campaign for it's legalisation so the majority who DONT get bloody addicted to it can freely smoke it without harrasment does not make me an addict, FFS.

[Tom]

I wish they all wouldn't smoke tbh, horrible habit. Suits Lisa though I suppose

[Stu]

Originally posted by Tom
I wish they all wouldn't smoke tbh, horrible habit. Suits Lisa though I suppose
Yeah I knew straight away she would be a smoker, some strange instinct. And the voice ... I suppose :joker:.

[Clockers]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Clockers
Thanks for hjacking my thread guys, this was suppose to be about Karly, her arse and her smoking, now u made it into a topical debate about drugs.

I give my 2 pennies worth, as a reformed drug addict I can tell u that smoking cannabis ***** your brain up. My memory not the same as it use to be, i get p****d off when not smoking and cannot go day without getting high and must have a spliff before bed time. It was the hardest time in mylife to get off weed, I smoked it so much it was apart of my DNA.

Stu u worship the GRADE aka FOOD so much your signature is "Bong Brother". You obviously cannot live without and probably addicted to it. Cannabis is not cool, it does harm, and everyone i knew on it are ****** up some way or another.
It's not my problem you had no control over a drug which causes mental cravings. I have very little sympathy for you their. How can you pass such a harsh judgement on me being an 'addict' when you dont even know me? I have been smoking it for 2 years and have often taken entire month long breaks just for the heck of it, so it is more fun the next time. Dont put me in the addict basket just because it is where you ended up.

Just because I am into it, believe in the culture, believe in the positive benefits of the plant, and campaign for it's legalisation so the majority who DONT get bloody addicted to it can freely smoke it without harrasment does not make me an addict, FFS.

Calm down and have a spliff. :rolleyes:

[Stu]

Originally posted by Clockers
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Clockers
Thanks for hjacking my thread guys, this was suppose to be about Karly, her arse and her smoking, now u made it into a topical debate about drugs.

I give my 2 pennies worth, as a reformed drug addict I can tell u that smoking cannabis ***** your brain up. My memory not the same as it use to be, i get p****d off when not smoking and cannot go day without getting high and must have a spliff before bed time. It was the hardest time in mylife to get off weed, I smoked it so much it was apart of my DNA.

Stu u worship the GRADE aka FOOD so much your signature is "Bong Brother". You obviously cannot live without and probably addicted to it. Cannabis is not cool, it does harm, and everyone i knew on it are ****** up some way or another.
It's not my problem you had no control over a drug which causes mental cravings. I have very little sympathy for you their. How can you pass such a harsh judgement on me being an 'addict' when you dont even know me? I have been smoking it for 2 years and have often taken entire month long breaks just for the heck of it, so it is more fun the next time. Dont put me in the addict basket just because it is where you ended up.

Just because I am into it, believe in the culture, believe in the positive benefits of the plant, and campaign for it's legalisation so the majority who DONT get bloody addicted to it can freely smoke it without harrasment does not make me an addict, FFS.

Calm down and have a spliff. :rolleyes:
What sort of an argument is that? Just because I gave you a debate you cant handle you twist it into me needing a spliff? To be honest, not only do I think that is incredibly stupid, but it is also just plain low.

I think playing with plastic cards with little numbers and shapes on them is dumb, but hey, you dont see me calling for the criminalising of Poker.

[Clockers]

Cannabis smokers seem to get irrate, you seem to remind me of the person I was. Reefer for life baby.

[Stu]

Originally posted by Clockers
Cannabis smokers seem to get irrate, you seem to remind me of the person I was. Reefer for life baby.
Irrate? We are in the middle of a debate you also hopped into. What do you expect me to do, give up all the views I expressed in the thread and agree with you even though I have no problems with my own personal use of the drug just so I can prove to some complete stranger I am not sucking cock down a back alley to get a smoke every four minuets?

Give me a break. Come on, man.

[Clockers]

In a deabte you should not call someone incredibly stupid, kinda rude. Anyway I am happy to say we have our own opinions on drug use, as reformed person I will always look at cannabis negatively because I could not live without whlist hooked. Neither could the people around me.

My old friends who did drugs are my friends no longer because we dont have anything in common anymore. They are and always will be cannabis junkies, constantly needing joints to get through the day.

I disagree with the whole lifestyle because I see things differently now.

Now my friend, if you ever get the munchies check this place out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbKRSYAuSNg

[Stu]

Originally posted by Clockers
In a deabte you should not call someone incredibly stupid, kinda rude. Anyway I am happy to say we have our own opinions on drug use, as reformed person I will always look at cannabis negatively because I could not live without whlist hooked. Neither could the people around me.

My old friends who did drugs are my friends no longer because we dont have anything in common anymore. They are and always will be cannabis junkies, constantly needing joints to get through the day.

I disagree with the whole lifestyle because I see things differently now.

Now my friend, if you ever get the munchies check this place out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbKRSYAuSNg
Mate, your making assumptions that I could be an addict. Do you honestly think I was not going to call you stupid? Fair is fair.

I understand where you are coming from with your argument, trust me. If you had no self control over the drug, for whatever reason, of course your going to look at it in a negative way.

My problem is not that. But can you at least accept that most people who smoke Cannabis dont become dependent? And that it is safer in a legal state? Why do we all have to suffer being branded as criminals just because you were addicted?

I have no problem with personal experiences, but when people use these personal experiences to justify going on a crusade against the drug then yes, I do have a problem, considering I am not the type of person who gets high on trying to control what others do. Cannabis is far better for that.

[AnitaBiernow]

Edited the first part of your post, insulting - 30stone.

for using the weak excuse how in the past ONLY the word's most wealthy and influencial
people, mings in China, writers, artists, poets, etc, had access to and could afford
recreational drugs, while also having access to a proper diet, doctors, medicines, etc
is irrelevant, irresponsible, narrow-minded and ignorant. WEAK case.

smoking weed has only been recreational for decades.

Only because of advancment in global travel have addicts been able to get access to illegal
drugs on the streets. Sixty years ago, I assure you, during WW2 in the era of
food rationing, I guarantee you that your grandparents choose not to neglect their
children in favour of scoring illegal drugs so they could ignore their
kids all night while they got a quick high (only to sleep in all morning and lie around all day).

I also notice that content and happy people don't light up and get high, for example, on their
wedding day or on Christmas morning, because:

a) they are happy and not miserably depressed
b) they're not highly stressed out and resort to downers to calm their nerves.

Only in recent decades, because of the vast advance in science/medicine, coupled with
the fact that there are people willing to commit their lives doing the research
(who also have the funds and facilities to do so), has proper research begun.

btw, it's not at all a debate... we've won. illegal. hahahahahaa

[Stu]

I work in HMV. That sentence alone destroys your entire post. Would you say the same thing about people having to light up as you would about people who drink? Are people depraived, depressed and miserable because they want to drink? Quiet a lot of people drink on Christmas day. And as you already mentioned, Alcohol is a more dangerous drug than Cannabis, which again, without fault, gets safer the moment you legalise it. Another argument you continue to ignore.

Smoking Cannabis for recreational use for relaxation, enjoyment, ritual or whatever has been commited for thousdands upon thousands of years. You can verify that by going to google. Heck, even Wikipedia will do. Your a complete joke. You have ignored every argument I have given you, and yet I am meant to be the thick, depraved drug addict?

How low can you get?

[AnitaBiernow]

you know the FUNNEST part of this forum?

THE IGNORE BUTTON!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SOBER AND LOVING LIFE, BABY!

OFF FOR MY 6 MILE HIKE ON THE CANAL BEFORE MY SUPPER! BYEEEEEEE

[Stu]

Seriously, ignorance knows no boundaries.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by AnitaBiernow

you know the FUNNEST part of this forum?

THE IGNORE BUTTON!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SOBER AND LOVING LIFE, BABY!

OFF FOR MY 6 MILE HIKE ON THE CANAL BEFORE MY SUPPER! BYEEEEEEE

pwned.

[Prole]

The government raises over 10 billion pounds from tobacco tax annually. I hope everyone is ready to make up that shortfall by paying substantially more income tax once everyone is stopped from smoking.

I don't care if Karly smokes, it's her choice. Don't see anyone commenting on the crap they all eat, seeing that obesity is a bigger killer than smoking.

[lily.]

Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by AnitaBiernow
if that isn't the funniest oxymoron I've read all day!

a cannabis smoker = detoxified.

go visit the REH in Edinburgh, go speak to the researches on 'cannabis smoking and the damage to cellular nerve cells in the brain'.

there is a big and logical reason why they'll never legalise the drug.

(remember, it's a DRUG and the toxins going into your lungs and triggering DNA to switch gene/protein growth on/off... unless you've studied it, you have no idea.)
[MASSIVE RANT]

Rubbish. Their has been no CONCLUSIVE scientific verification on anything you have said about Cannabis. For every report saying what you have just said, their is another saying otherwise. Reports and studies do not = fact.

So if a substance damages DNA (a mutagen), it must be a carcinogen... right? wrong. Without getting too far into it, there are several kinds of DNA mutations that occur every day. Some are not as bad as others, and our cells have several "check points" when reproducing to correct any mistakes in DNA. If the DNA cannot be repaired the cell self-destructs and does not undergo mitosis (cell division). To allude to the conclusion that because a substance is a mutagen that it is a carcinogen is just not true and misleading.

You cant stop people from smoking a plant that grows naturally, and you cant uphold Cannabis illegality as being a CREDIBLE concept when their are more dangerous drugs that are LEGAL. If people are going to smoke it anyway, which they will, because prohibition has failed [another FACT], then you may as well facilitate it.

Cannabis automaticaly becomes safer if you legalise it. And that is a fact. The criminal element and the contamination element involved both outweigh any possible carinogenic element. The MEDICAL BENEFITS of the plant also outweigh any possible harm it could do. They dont have medicinal marijuana for nothing. Plus if it were legalsied they could simply sell it in food product form. No inhalation.

And unless you hang around smokers all day, please, stop overhyping this whole second hand smoke rubbish. What about people who get tanked on alcohol and jump on people or bottle them? Or beat their wives? Or knock over children with cars? Are they not infringing on the rights of others?

Besides, to begin with, Cannabis is not illegal because of health. It was ushered into being banned before any conclusive evidence for it's harm came out. It was banned based on the fact that it was an apparently insanity inducing drug that would make you jump out windows and kill your girlfriend for a 'fix'. It was banned because, well, it was in trade with Mexicans and Blacks. It was banned in America based on racist philosophies. It has been kept banned due to various lobbyist from the Tobacco, Alcohol and Oil industrys, who would all lose a share of profits if a benign, non toxic plant that induces a relatively mild effect on the body could both be used for food, enjoyment and as a source of fibre, energy and raw material for the future.

People seemed to smoke it for hundreds and thousands of years and live to old, healthy ages perfectley fine, until the turn of the 20th century. ****, what a coincidence!

It is also banned due to the fact that it simply did not fit in with some power-mongers view of the world. Alcohol is a very masculine, materialist drug that centers on the ego. Cannabis is more innocent. We cant have people going around smoking Cannabis perhaps realising they dont need all the **** the government tries to peddle to them, do we?

How are world governments meant to sell us products, mobilise us into armies to fight on their behalf, and defend nuclear budgets when people can grow plants for free in their homes, lay on the grass, and just muse ''Man ... I love ... EVERYTHING''.

Cure your ignorance. Because ignorance is a killer. A much bigger killer than a plant that you cannot overdose on and that acts on the system by utilising existing receptors that are already present in our systems could ever hope to be.

Religion, racism, knives, boiling kettles, boxes of paracetamol, vending machines, sharks and falling coconuts all > Cannabis in terms of danger.

[/MASSIVE RANT]


-standing ovation-

I seriously effing love you man!



And, Anita, I've reported your offensive posts dah-lin.

[Clockers]

I guess cannabis is like alcohol or any other drug, you do too much of it and it becomes a habbit for some, an uncontrolable habbit.

The term Stonner comes from people smoking weed all the time, I was once a Stonner and the people I was once associated with are still Stonners.

I can vouch first hand that cannabis can be addictive, it makes you lose your mind, makes you forget things. Maybe for some people it not addictive, but everyone I knew it was a way of life. Reefer for life, bunning it down, got any food, all this **** is no longer what I am about and why encourage people not to smoke anyway, it bad for your health.

[yousoboo!]

Karly is hot with her sexy come to bed Bambi eyes. Yep I'd be her Thumper.
She looks naughty too. And she's clued up.

[Ketman]

I tried everything in the hippy era - LSD, speed, and every kind of weed you can name. I don't recall any medical campaigns against cannabis at that time, but then there wasn't much of a campaign against cigarettes either. I stopped in 1972, simply because I got bored and disillusioned with it. But I did suspect some of the effects weren't good. My eyes seemed to be bloodshot all the time, and I noticed I simply wasn't getting anything done. Weed has an insidious way of controlling your life, even if it isn't addictive, strictly speaking, or not chemically, anyway. But it does tend to shrink your life down, and become in some way the dominating thing. You only associate with others who smoke, and your conversations with them become very repetitive, and eventually incoherent. I saw no one becoming wiser or more spiritual as a result of getting stoned four times a day. I saw nobody's mind "expanding". Rather the reverse. What I think finally set off an alarm bell was noticing how some people hated even being in the room if there was someone there who wasn't smoking. The mere presence of a "straight" was enough to ***** the vibe. I began to realize that the true effects of this drug were actually the reverse of what was claimed by its proponents. Instead of opening up your mind, it gradually shut it down.

I was lucky enough to kick it young. But if you go on beyond your mid-twenties.... well, what I noticed later was that those who continued smoking weed after that age began to get very old very fast. They just looked decrepit, you know, haggard and shagged out at 28 or 29, giving you a sneak preview of their later life. I haven't seen any medical studies about it, but if it turned out that it does do damage to the brain or the nervous system, I wouldn't be surprised. My own views about it are not based on anything I've read or was told. They're simply based on my own observations about my own behaviour and those I associated with.

[Stu]

Theirs the problem. Dont get stoned four times a day.

[AnitaBiernow]

reported me, Lili? Sorry you're carrying so much anger over whatever issues you have. I broke zero rules, darling.

anyway, thanks for all the support, but please post what you're telling me on the thread so the 'smoker's can read those reports, as well.

I refuse to debate the issue with uneducated people. I haven't even READ all his RANTS as they made us laugh so hard, I was crying tears.

And, thanks for pointing out his continued use of possessive pronoun usage in place of what should be verb. However, I've 'IGNORED' him for a reason.

I'm off to Hard Rock Cafe for dinner and a few cocktails and then off to see Hangover. have fun at HMV!!!

[Stu]

Originally posted by AnitaBiernow
cocktails
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y237/kingofthering/thats_all_folks.jpg

[Miss-red]

Originally posted by Stu
Not our ancestors. Silly. Cannabis growth has never exactly thrived naturally in this climate. You clearly have no idea what your talking about.





Now, some more points, kids...

1. Your insulting me by assuming I cant have fun anywhere else just because I smoke.

2. You are also insulting me by making a big deal out of the fact that I am smoking something illegal, even though you have agreed that legal substances like Alcohol are far more harmful.

3. You still have not responded to my main argument that Cannabis becomes safer if legalised. Because you cant. Criminal drug gangs and Cannabis contamination are both far more dangerous than the threat of carcinogens from a plant people are going to smoke be it illegal or legal. Therefore, it becomes safer legal. More quality control. Taxes and profits to governments who can fund research and use the money to help hard drug problems. Or would you rather criminals kept the Cannabis profits?

4. You continue to both spell poor and make horrible assumptions [losers at the pub] on my entire personality and mode of lifestyle just because I choose to smoke a plant that damages nobody but me. Certainly not a show of braincells on your part.

5....... (http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/)





Enjoy. And be sure to post back with your next point dodging, bullet munching, garbage spewing post. I plan to collect your posts, print them, and use the sheet as some form of rudimentary rolling paper in the future. You just got rattled by a stoner, baby. you talk sense it's very nice to see :thumbs:

[j20211]

Same i really wish she didnt smoke!!!!! As soon as i see a girl smoking i think they can just ***** off i wud neva date a smoker !!!!!
HORRIBLE !!!!!!!!!!! FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[carlylover11]

anybody got a pic of her smoking