Out the closet..

[Billy]

I've just came out to my mum and brotherrrr ahh.


BI.

[Harry!]

Congratulations :hello:

[Firewire]

Aw congratulations Billy. I hope it went well. :)

[Shaun]

Well done Billy :D :hug:

[30stone]

They cool with it then?

or already knew?

[Lewis.]

Cool! Well done =]

[Billy]

Yeh everyones been okay but they didn't know.
I've not stopped crying since I said it and I dont know why

[MarkWaldorf]

Aw Billy! As long as everything's all out now, it'll be a lot easier. Congrats!

[FrenchAffair2]

Was it a walk in closet?

[Lauren]

Well done Billy, so much better in the long run it's out. :cheer:

[Billy]

Originally posted by FrenchAffair2
Was it a walk in closet?

Eww you're back.

[Tom4784]

Congrats Billy! I'm glad it went well. :hug:

[Ross]

Well my aunt fanny.

Congrats Billy :tongue::hug:

[Kore]

Well done Billy!
MY brother did it, and he was upset when he told me and my mam.

but he knows were ok with it, i think it was the fear that we'de disown him or sumthing... which is silly.

Think how many people have done what you have done anyway mate. your not alone :D

[Simone.]

Awwwww.
Congrats.

[Ross]

Originally posted by Kore
Well done Billy!
MY brother did it, and he was upset when he told me and my mam.

but he knows were ok with it, i think it was the fear that we'de disown him or sumthing... which is silly.

Think how many people have done what you have done anyway mate. your not alone :D
How old is/was your brother when he told you? Just out of curiosity.

But well done to your bro too.

[MrGaryy]

Congrats, I'm sure once it's blown over you'll feel so relieved.

[Princess]

Well done Billy :hug:

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Billy
BI.

Wait was that coming out as bisexual or shouting BYE? :tongue:

[Billy]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Billy
BI.

Wait was that coming out as bisexual or shouting BYE? :tongue:

LMAO Both.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Billy
BI.

Wait was that coming out as bisexual or shouting BYE? :tongue:

LMAO Both.

[pinkmichk]

glad it went well the tears will be a huge amount of relief that you know they cool with who you are :hug:

[Kore]

Originally posted by Ross
Originally posted by Kore
Well done Billy!
MY brother did it, and he was upset when he told me and my mam.

but he knows were ok with it, i think it was the fear that we'de disown him or sumthing... which is silly.

Think how many people have done what you have done anyway mate. your not alone :D
How old is/was your brother when he told you? Just out of curiosity.

But well done to your bro too.

um think he was about 17 or 18

[Sam!]

I well badly thought this thread was about someone else.. but anyway. Well done Billy :thumbs:

[Tom]

Well done :spin2:

Ha, I bet you feel dead relieved now and a bit silly, all that worrying and noone actually is actually that bothered :tongue:

[Billy]

Originally posted by Tom
Well done :spin2:

Ha, I bet you feel dead relieved now and a bit silly, all that worrying and noone actually is actually that bothered :tongue:

Yah I feel like an idiot.
Saying that I've still to see my dad and brother haha.

[merijaan]

Post edited, offensive and insulting. - 30stone.

[Billy]

Originally posted by merijaan
Post Edited.
After you.

[Lewis.]

Originally posted by merijaan
Post Edited.



Can't you?

[GhettoSuperstar]

Aww well done. Been there done that so know how you feel.

Join the gay train!

[merijaan]

lol

<<<< jumps off the train! after planting a bomd on it lol

How do people who love FAKE celebrities think they can put any one down lol. I really dont know lol.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by merijaan
Post Edited.

http://i44.tinypic.com/25gujqa.jpg

[merijaan]

Lol, why thankyou, what a compliment.

Im sorry tho, it didint hurt my feeling, was that why you posted it? im sorry.

I can pretend it did if you want tho?

< hurt feelings lol

[Hugo]

Congrats!
Will be alot easier now!

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by merijaan

Lol, why thankyou, what a compliment.

Im sorry tho, it didint hurt my feeling, was that why you posted it? im sorry.

I can pretend it did if you want tho?

< hurt feelings lol

Not intended to hurt your feelings at all. Just an observation. :whistle:

[Mrluvaluva]

Oh. And well done Billy. Good for you. :thumbs:

[xDramatick]

I was emotional when I did it to my mum Billy, congrats<3
If you ever need to talk, I'm here.

[_Seth]

Thankyou, 30stone for removing that sickly post. :)

[DamonJ]

ew wtf I didn't even HAVE to come out to my parents.
It's in the voice <3 and hand gestures, and Britney obession, and photos of current (now ex) boyfriend on Facebook. :tongue:

[No1MakosiFan]

Originally posted by Billy
I've just came out to my mum and brotherrrr ahh.


BI.


Very well done. Hope it went all ok for you.


Bet you feel better now.

[FrenchAffair2]

what you doing to do if your parent and family don't accept your sexual choice? what if they tell you to get out of the house in till you choose to live a normal heterosexual lifestyle?

all in all seems like a bad move that will backfire on you.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by FrenchAffair2
what you doing to do if your parent and family don't accept your sexual choice? what if they tell you to get out of the house in till you choose to live a normal heterosexual lifestyle?

all in all seems like a bad move that will backfire on you.

i'm sorry so anyone who isnt hetrosexual isnt normal:rolleyes: he has already said it went well this is 2009 people are a lot more understanding of sexuality and i am pretty sure even if they werent happy they wouldnt force a lifestyle on their child that would make them unhappy and resent the parents
when i came out i found it really hard to do my mum wasnt exactly over the moon but she accepts its my life to live it how i choose
i think you need to drag your views into 2009 not the ancient times they from

[FrenchAffair2]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by FrenchAffair2
what you doing to do if your parent and family don't accept your sexual choice? what if they tell you to get out of the house in till you choose to live a normal heterosexual lifestyle?

all in all seems like a bad move that will backfire on you.

i'm sorry so anyone who isnt hetrosexual isnt normal:rolleyes: he has already said it went well this is 2009 people are a lot more understanding of sexuality and i am pretty sure even if they werent happy they wouldnt force a lifestyle on their child that would make them unhappy and resent the parents
when i came out i found it really hard to do my mum wasnt exactly over the moon but she accepts its my life to live it how i choose
i think you need to drag your views into 2009 not the ancient times they from

Nope, being non-hetrosexual isn't normal. It goes against the laws of nature.

[Shaun]

Penis goes in ass too. What's not natural about that? :)

[John.]

Originally posted by Shaun
Penis goes in ass too. What's not natural about that? :)
that was a rather unessential image in my head. :tongue::laugh2:

[arista]

Originally posted by FrenchAffair2
what you doing to do if your parent and family don't accept your sexual choice? what if they tell you to get out of the house in till you choose to live a normal heterosexual lifestyle?

all in all seems like a bad move that will backfire on you.


You can Not say it will backfire.
Not everyone gets problems.


Times have changed.


And there is No God.



Sign Of The Times.

[John.]

Well said Arista. :thumbs:



(off topic: why do you always put "Sign Of The Times. " at the end of your posts?)

[FrenchAffair2]

Originally posted by Shaun
Penis goes in ass too. What's not natural about that? :)

Just because it can doesn't mean it should. There is nothing nature about a man being attracted sexually to a man. It goes against the laws of nature in which attraction exists to further procreation.

[Shaun]

Well I don't choose to be attracted to men, so it's entirely natural.

It's against the circle of life, sure.

[John.]

Who gives a hoot about the past? This is 2009, things have changed, and will continue to do so.

Electricity ain't natural, but we've learned to live with it!

[FrenchAffair2]

Originally posted by Shaun
Well I don't choose to be attracted to men, so it's entirely natural.

It's against the circle of life, sure.

You can not say that your attraction to men is the result of a life experience, or the result of any other possibilities.

Are people who are attracted to young children natural?
Are people who are attracted to animals natural?

What about sociopaths, mental retardation, downsyndrom.... ect...ect are these things all natural too?

No they are abnormal as they are the result of these people not developing/existing as normal humans do.

[FrenchAffair2]

Originally posted by JD.
Who gives a hoot about the past? This is 2009, things have changed, and will continue to do so.

Electricity ain't natural, but we've learned to live with it!

If anything the acceptance of homosexuality as "normal" is a reversion to the past, so if you are in support of this I would suggest you give a hoot about the past.


Then again, last time homosexuality was considered normal so was sacarficing virgins to the sea gods and massacuring tens of thousands of men women and children for sport.

[Shaun]

Um, homosexuality is considered normal and acceptable by the majority now.

And yes - mental retardation and Downs' Syndrome is natural - unfortunate but natural. What else could it possibly be?

I put this to you: do you choose to be attracted to members of the opposite sex?

[Tom]

Originally posted by FrenchAffair2

You can not say that your attraction to men is the result of a life experience, or the result of any other possibilities.

Erm, yes you can. Its pretty much been proven to be a combination of the brain structure at birth and upbringing.

Are people who are attracted to young children natural?

Are gay people harming anyone else especially if its two consenting adults? To compare them to a paedophile is ridiculous

Are people who are attracted to animals natural?

Same point as above really.

What about sociopaths, mental retardation, downsyndrom.... ect...ect are these things all natural too?

Sociopaths- combination of natural and life experience.
Mental retardation- undoubtedly natural
Downs Syndrome- undoubtedly natural too. Downs Syndrome is an extra chromosome and naturally they have 47 instead of 46. How is that NOT natural?

No they are abnormal as they are the result of these people not developing/existing as normal humans do.

How do you define normal? How do you know its what you perceive to be normal that are the wrongly developed ones, its just more of a common occurrence? Theres no way of saying because the bottom line is morality, and morality is subjective.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by FrenchAffair2

Are people who are attracted to young children natural?
Are people who are attracted to animals natural?



These both include a VERY important confounding variable of consent that over rules any comparison.

[Spike]

Well done Billy
In most cases it usually goes a lot better than you think it will and it sounds like that was the same for you

[arista]

Originally posted by JD.
Well said Arista. :thumbs:



(off topic: why do you always put "Sign Of The Times. " at the end of your posts?)

I put that at the End
as it is so true.

There are folks out there that are not living in our times
like something from the 1950's.


Life In The City.

[Captain.Remy]

Glad to know you feel better now mate. :thumbs:

[Noel]

Aw well done Billy! I could never, I'm sucha wuss. I have planned never to tell my family, but I envy your courage.

[Billy]

Thanks to the normal people ie everyone bar FrenchAffair.

[Barbie]

Natural doesn't really come into it... we use cars, have electricity and mobile phones.. none of those are natural.. you dont find any other animal being told by their parents to come home and that they are grounded over a mobile... so what's natural is a weak argument in our society.


Woo! to the OP though! x

i almost sound intelligent in this post! :dance2:

[MR.K!]

Congratulations Billy.
And what the hell are you on FrenchAffair !? Ive never heard such a huge bunch of crap in my life. lol

[arista]

Originally posted by Billy
Thanks to the normal people ie everyone bar FrenchAffair.


Hey Billy
there is always one.

Stay Happy.

[FrenchAffair2]

Originally posted by Shaun
Um, homosexuality is considered normal and acceptable by the majority now.

Far from, being openly homosexual will still get you hanged in most parts of the world.

Western middle/upper urban class =/= majority. Far from... and there isn't even a large majority among them (America for example)

And yes - mental retardation and Downs' Syndrome is natural - unfortunate but natural. What else could it possibly be?

They aren't natural, they are the product of a defect. In the case of down syndrom an extra chromozon that we are not naturally supposed to have.

It is a defect as in somthing that is defective from the norm.

I put this to you: do you choose to be attracted to members of the opposite sex?

No because that attraction is in line with the laws of nature. To go against that we can either conclude that it is an inherent defect in the person, in which case homosexuality is a birth defect or we can say that the person chooses to revolt against their natural order.

[FrenchAffair2]

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by FrenchAffair2

You can not say that your attraction to men is the result of a life experience, or the result of any other possibilities.

Erm, yes you can. Its pretty much been proven to be a combination of the brain structure at birth and upbringing.

Show me this proof that it is the result of brain structure.

But why do you mention upbringing? Are you suggesting that ones sexuality is a result of how they are brought up??


Are people who are attracted to young children natural?

Are gay people harming anyone else especially if its two consenting adults? To compare them to a paedophile is ridiculous

Harm is irrelevant to my point. The question is pretty straight forward, you're just dancing around it because you don't like the awnser.

If homosexuality is natural, then so is paedophilia. Because what is paedophilia other than "sexual preference" and if sexual prefrence other than that for the opposite sex is "natural"...

[FrenchAffair2]

Originally posted by Barbie-big-bro
Natural doesn't really come into it... we use cars, have electricity and mobile phones.. none of those are natural.. you dont find any other animal being told by their parents to come home and that they are grounded over a mobile... so what's natural is a weak argument in our society.


Woo! to the OP though! x

i almost sound intelligent in this post! :dance2:

What do cars have to do with human biology?

[Shaun]

Originally posted by FrenchAffair2
Far from, being openly homosexual will still get you hanged in most parts of the world.

Western middle/upper urban class =/= majority. Far from... and there isn't even a large majority among them (America for example)

That doesn't mean that being homosexual's a bad thing - the majority of these 'parts of the world' also impose sexist, racist and generally dictatorial regimes.

[Tom]

Originally posted by FrenchAffair2
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by FrenchAffair2

You can not say that your attraction to men is the result of a life experience, or the result of any other possibilities.

Erm, yes you can. Its pretty much been proven to be a combination of the brain structure at birth and upbringing.

Show me this proof that it is the result of brain structure.

But why do you mention upbringing? Are you suggesting that ones sexuality is a result of how they are brought up??

I meant to say or, not and. So my bad. Anyway evidence (not proof) for brain structure

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7988.html

A lot of articles came out at a similar time based on the same research

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2404109.stm

Both goes more way to suggest its natural than not

Theres also this about sheep. Maybe its applicable to humans, maybe not

Harm is irrelevant to my point. The question is pretty straight forward, you're just dancing around it because you don't like the awnser.

If homosexuality is natural, then so is paedophilia. Because what is paedophilia other than "sexual preference" and if sexual prefrence other than that for the opposite sex is "natural"...

Harm is not irrelevant, it is only irrelevant because it doesn't fit your argument. The difference is consent, how can you not grasp that? And yes, paedophilia must be natural, I'm not denying that, but the difference is its harming people and clearly one taking advantage of another. But its also two different reasons and its supposed to be thought processes, hence rehab programs have helped them stop thinking like that. To compare the two is crazy.

[theapprentice]

Well done. you deserve an award!

[Billy]

LOL.

I've told my best friend and my ex (who is my friend too) and everyones fine with it :D!

[M X]

Aww.. well done Billy!! :hug::kiss:

I still need too :sad:

and to that French w/e, wtf are you talking about you wanker? go die pls.

Congrats' Billy! :wavey:

[*mazedsalv**]

Well done Billy :hello: Congrats

And for anyone that needs to come out, just remember to take deep breaths, you shouldnt worry, if your parents love you, they will be happy for you.