Michael Jackson's Cardiac Arrest & Death [CONFIRMED] [merged threads]

[Alf]

Originally posted by James
'wannashag', stop posting in this thread if you are not going to post contructively. It is basically trolling. Posts deleted.
are you going to delete every post that isnt constructive on this forum then?
this thread does not say michael jackson appretiation thread
there are thousands of posts on this forum with unconstructive comments. so does that mean all those people are trolls or are you singling me out?
can i have an answer please james?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Zac
Oh and I found this...
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=198437

It's fake, it's just someone whose wrote up a random blog entry.

[Zac]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac
That was a sad read.
And I just found out about the 4 suicides, I didn't know before. it's just so sad.

4 suicides?

The suicides that 4 people comitted over MJ's death, they must have been huge fans of his to die just because he did.

Holy **** :sad:

I know. It's all just started to sink in for me and then just hearing people have committed suicide over MJ's deatch just makes me all upset again. :sad:

[Zac]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac
Oh and I found this...
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=198437

It's fake, it's just someone whose wrote up a random blog entry.

Oh. But even if he did lie it was still disgusting, putting MJ through all those years of grief and ruining his life.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Zac
Oh and I found this...
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=198437

I saw that on another website earlier, don't know what to make of it really...if it's true then those people should be strung up by the bollox :mad: That accusation 16 years ago is what ruined MJ's career, started his money problems, started his addictions to painkillers and basically started him on the downward spiral that led to his death imo. Only total SCUM would make up something like that.

And does he think it will absolve him if he admits it was all lies now?! :mad:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac
Oh and I found this...
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=198437

It's fake, it's just someone whose wrote up a random blog entry.

Oh. But even if he did lie it was still disgusting, putting MJ through all those years of grief and ruining his life.

Yeah but he didn't lie? (At least, not officially). That whole news story is completely made up.

[Alf]

what does this have to do with big brother ten?
delete this thread please

[Lauren]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by Zac
Oh and I found this...
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=198437

I saw that on another website earlier, don't know what to make of it really...if it's true then those people should be strung up by the bollox :mad: That accusation 16 years ago is what ruined MJ's career, started his money problems, started his addictions to painkillers and basically started him on the downward spiral that led to his death imo. Only total SCUM would make up something like that.

And does he think it will absolve him if he admits it was all lies now?! :mad:

Look to my above post, the whole news story is false.

[MissKittyFantastico]

It's already been movd into the music thread.

[Zac]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac
Oh and I found this...
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=198437

It's fake, it's just someone whose wrote up a random blog entry.

Oh. But even if he did lie it was still disgusting, putting MJ through all those years of grief and ruining his life.

Yeah but he didn't lie? (At least, not officially). That whole news story is completely made up.

Hmmm.
Well I personally think he did lie, whether that article is true or not, I always have believed Michael was innocent.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by wannashag
what does this have to do with big brother ten?
delete this thread please

It's not even in the BB10 section, it's in the Music section. The thread trail has been left so people can access it......

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by Zac
Oh and I found this...
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=198437

I saw that on another website earlier, don't know what to make of it really...if it's true then those people should be strung up by the bollox :mad: That accusation 16 years ago is what ruined MJ's career, started his money problems, started his addictions to painkillers and basically started him on the downward spiral that led to his death imo. Only total SCUM would make up something like that.

And does he think it will absolve him if he admits it was all lies now?! :mad:

Look to my above post, the whole news story is false.

It's been on a few websites now I think, any idea where it originally came from?

[Zac]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by Zac
Oh and I found this...
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=198437

I saw that on another website earlier, don't know what to make of it really...if it's true then those people should be strung up by the bollox :mad: That accusation 16 years ago is what ruined MJ's career, started his money problems, started his addictions to painkillers and basically started him on the downward spiral that led to his death imo. Only total SCUM would make up something like that.

And does he think it will absolve him if he admits it was all lies now?! :mad:

Look to my above post, the whole news story is false.

It's been on a few websites now I think, any idea where it originally came from?

Nope, that's the only site where i've seen that article so far.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Zac

Hmmm.
Well I personally think he did lie, whether that article is true or not, I always have believed Michael was innocent.

I don't think we should discuss it. (I'm not saying you shouldn't lol, I just mean in this thread). Cos if he was lying, then discussing it in MJs thread just shows how it's still haunting his memory. And if he wasn't lying, we're speaking with vitriol about an abused boy.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico

It's been on a few websites now I think, any idea where it originally came from?

I think it came from a wordpress website (so like a blogging website), where someone wrote it in a journalistic style but with no sources. From then it just spread (the same exact wording).

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac
Oh and I found this...
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=198437

It's fake, it's just someone whose wrote up a random blog entry.

Oh. But even if he did lie it was still disgusting, putting MJ through all those years of grief and ruining his life.

Yeah but he didn't lie? (At least, not officially). That whole news story is completely made up.

Hmmm.
Well I personally think he did lie, whether that article is true or not, I always have believed Michael was innocent.

Me too. If my child had been abused by ANYONE, but especially someone as high profile as MJ who surrounded himself with kids all the time, I wouldn't take any amount of money, I would want them dragged to hell and back through the courts, and it all made public, not take a backhander and slink away. I just never believed a word of it anyway...either in 1993 or 2005.

Edit. Sorry Lauren, I agree we shouldn't bring that up here in this thread, I just feel so strongly about it and just always believed Michael. I take your point though.

[Zac]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac

Hmmm.
Well I personally think he did lie, whether that article is true or not, I always have believed Michael was innocent.

I don't think we should discuss it. (I'm not saying you shouldn't lol, I just mean in this thread). Cos if he was lying, then discussing it in MJs thread just shows how it's still haunting his memory. And if he wasn't lying, we're speaking with vitriol about an abused boy.

Eeek, sorry. Yes, you're right, this is a completley different subject and I don't really want to get into the whole 'peadophile' situation now tbh because it'll just cause arguments about whether it's true or not.

[Lauren]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico

Me too. If my child had been abused by ANYONE, but especially someone as high profile as MJ who surrounded himself with kids all the time, I wouldn't take any amount of money, I would want them dragged to hell and back through the courts, and it all made public, not take a backhander and slink away. I just never believed a word of it anyway...either in 1993 or 2005.

I've no opinion either way, but I don't want to be vindictive to either side.

If the allegations were true: We shouldn't speak bad or with vitriol about an abused young boy. Perhaps it was his fathers overbearing influence that decided to take the money rather than take it to court, not the boys fault.

If the allegation is false: I wouldn't want to tar MJ's lasting memory with the haunting episode.

[Lauren]

Anyway, moving on in case this causes either an argument or a magnet for trolls.

Anyone have a link to the suicides news story?

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac

Hmmm.
Well I personally think he did lie, whether that article is true or not, I always have believed Michael was innocent.

I don't think we should discuss it. (I'm not saying you shouldn't lol, I just mean in this thread). Cos if he was lying, then discussing it in MJs thread just shows how it's still haunting his memory. And if he wasn't lying, we're speaking with vitriol about an abused boy.

Eeek, sorry. Yes, you're right, this is a completley different subject and I don't really want to get into the whole 'peadophile' situation now tbh because it'll just cause arguments about whether it's true or not.

Yeah fair point both of you.

[Zac]

Originally posted by Lauren
Anyway, moving on in case this causes either an argument or a magnet for trolls.

Anyone have a link to the suicides news story?

I just saw it on here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson#Death

But Wikipedia is hardly a reliable source, is it? So i'm just assuming it's true.

[Alf]

Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Zac
Oh and I found this...
http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=198437

It's fake, it's just someone whose wrote up a random blog entry.

Oh. But even if he did lie it was still disgusting, putting MJ through all those years of grief and ruining his life.

Yeah but he didn't lie? (At least, not officially). That whole news story is completely made up.

Hmmm.
Well I personally think he did lie, whether that article is true or not, I always have believed Michael was innocent.
ask yourself this if you were accused, you would have nothing to hide so there would be no evidence, so why would you settle out of court for 18 read it 18 million dollers.
surley if he didnt do anything and there was no evidance he would have just proved his innocence.
i think he must have had something to hide

[Zac]

Originally posted by wannashag
Originally posted by Zac
Hmmm.
Well I personally think he did lie, whether that article is true or not, I always have believed Michael was innocent.
ask yourself this if you were accused, you would have nothing to hide so there would be no evidence, so why would you settle out of court for 18 read it 18 million dollers.
surley if he didnt do anything and there was no evidance he would have just proved his innocence.
i think he must have had something to hide

Well, I honestly am speechless. You do have a fair point there.

[Lauren]

I read that a Russian MJ impersonator tried to kill himself too :sad:

[Zac]

Originally posted by Lauren
I read that a Russian MJ impersonator tried to kill himself too :sad:

Oh god. :sad:

[Zac]

I don't think Michael would want fans killing themselves, he'd want them to be listening and dancing to his music and celebrating his life, wouldn't he?

[Lauren]

Yeah, it's real nice when we see clips of MJ flash mobs, people just having a nice time and enjoying his music.

[Zac]

Originally posted by Lauren
Yeah, it's real nice when we see clips of MJ flash mobs, people just having a nice time and enjoying his music.

Yep, he wouldn't have wanted any of this grief caused over him, knowing him as an entertainter, he would have probably wanted the opposite, for people to enjoy this, despite everything bad that happened n his life.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Yeah, it's real nice when we see clips of MJ flash mobs, people just having a nice time and enjoying his music.

Yep, he wouldn't have wanted any of this grief caused over him, knowing him as an entertainter, he would have probably wanted the opposite, for people to enjoy this, despite everything bad that happened n his life.

Completely agree with everything you said, he'd want people to be happy and rejoice and love his music!

[Zac]

Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Yeah, it's real nice when we see clips of MJ flash mobs, people just having a nice time and enjoying his music.

Yep, he wouldn't have wanted any of this grief caused over him, knowing him as an entertainter, he would have probably wanted the opposite, for people to enjoy this, despite everything bad that happened n his life.

Completely agree with everything you said, he'd want people to be happy and rejoice and love his music!

Yep. Shame some people aren't doing though. :sad:

EDIT;
Oh and Iceman, I love your sig!

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by Zac
Originally posted by Lauren
Yeah, it's real nice when we see clips of MJ flash mobs, people just having a nice time and enjoying his music.

Yep, he wouldn't have wanted any of this grief caused over him, knowing him as an entertainter, he would have probably wanted the opposite, for people to enjoy this, despite everything bad that happened n his life.

Completely agree with everything you said, he'd want people to be happy and rejoice and love his music!

Yep. Shame some people aren't doing though. :sad:

EDIT;
Oh and Iceman, I love your sig!

Thanks it's not mine, I copied it off someone lol, I want a new one with a memorial thingy on it.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Iceman

Thanks it's not mine, I copied it off someone lol, I want a new one with a memorial thingy on it.

Ask Nicky.

[Iceman]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Originally posted by Iceman

Thanks it's not mine, I copied it off someone lol, I want a new one with a memorial thingy on it.

Ask Nicky.

Yeah I'm gonna in the morning, I'm too lazy to find the pics I want lol

[Nicky.]

Originally posted by Iceman
Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Originally posted by Iceman

Thanks it's not mine, I copied it off someone lol, I want a new one with a memorial thingy on it.

Ask Nicky.

Yeah I'm gonna in the morning, I'm too lazy to find the pics I want lol

:dazzler:

[Lauren]

Wish people would stop spreading fake MJ stories, they know who they are.

(The story I am referring to is that "Evan Chandler" came out saying he was never touched by MJ and had lied.

1. Evan is the father. It's Jordan the kid. So that's wrong.
2. The story is false. It's just a fake blog entry, it's slanderous and wrong.
3. By telling people about it, you're tarnishing the image of someone who may well have been abused).

But most of all, by posting this fake story you're tarnishing the memory of MICHAEL. He won't want to be remembered for that story, and he especially won't want fake stories resurrecting the memory of it.

I'm not talking about people who don't know it's fake, but I've seen another member on here telling people it's real, when they've been shown that its fake.

Anyway, I felt I needed to post that because its really making this whole thing bitter.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Lauren
Wish people would stop spreading fake MJ stories, they know who they are.

(The story I am referring to is that "Evan Chandler" came out saying he was never touched by MJ and had lied.

1. Evan is the father. It's Jordan the kid. So that's wrong.
2. The story is false. It's just a fake blog entry, it's slanderous and wrong.
3. By telling people about it, you're tarnishing the image of someone who may well have been abused).

But most of all, by posting this fake story you're tarnishing the memory of MICHAEL. He won't want to be remembered for that story, and he especially won't want fake stories resurrecting the memory of it.

I'm not talking about people who don't know it's fake, but I've seen another member on here telling people it's real, when they've been shown that its fake.

Anyway, I felt I needed to post that because its really making this whole thing bitter.

Couldnt have said it any better.

[Mrluvaluva]

Show Goes On: Beyonce Leads Jackson Tributes


It's one of the biggest nights in the calendar for America's black stars - and tonight's running order has been ripped up and recreated after the sudden death of Michael Jackson.

Performers at the Black Entertainment TV Awards, including Beyonce, Wyclef Jean, and Ne-Yo, together with host Jamie Foxx, are all working in special tributes to the singing legend.

The live broadcast from Los Angeles' Shrine Auditorium has been extended by half an hour to include last-minute unannounced guests who want to appear and pay their own respects to Jackson.

Singer Beyonce Knowles performed on Friday night in Philadelphia and visibly fought back tears before singing Jackson's song I Can't Help It.

"This is going to be hard for me... My hero passed away... I'm very grateful for the memories that I've had watching and listening to the genius Michael Jackson," she said.

One of the producers of tonight's BET awards, which honour African-American achievements in music, film and sports,admitted the show was having to undergo a "total overhaul".

"It has been planned and rehearsed for the last six months. So to change it all in less than three days is not easy, but they are all willing and looking forward to it," said Stephen Hill.

"There is a direct line from Beyonce to Michael Jackson, from Ne-Yo to Michael Jackson, from Jay-Z to Michael Jackson. They will want to pay tribute," he added.

Sean 'P Diddy' Combs and Vanessa Williams are expected to be among the guests at the venue, which has previously hosted the Oscars and the Grammy Awards.

Performers and audience members at this weekend's Glastonbury Festival also paid tribute to Jackson's contribution to the world of music.


Source (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Showbiz-News/Black-Entertainment-Awards-Beyonce-And-P-Diddy-To-Lead-Michael-Jackson-Tributes/Article/200906415321604?lpos=Showbiz_News_Carousel_Region_ 5&lid=ARTICLE_15321604_Black_Entertainment_Awards%3A _Beyonce_And_P_Diddy_To_Lead_Michael_Jackson_Tribu tes)

[MarkWaldorf]

That sounds really great!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Really can't wait to see the BET awards....anyone know what channel it will be shown on?

[Mrluvaluva]

I can't find them on the BET channel on SKY (191)?

I think there are some live streaming sites on the net though.

[BOSSChick]

I`ve lost respect for Big Brother; can`t help but be angry about them not telling the housemates.

BET Awards 4th July. in the UK.
Channel 191.

[Shaun]

So appropriate :\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X6ry3BYInk

[Lauren]

Originally posted by BOSSChick
I`ve lost respect for Big Brother; can`t help but be angry about them not telling the housemates.

BET Awards 4th July. in the UK.
Channel 191.

To be fair, I'm sure Siavash would rather hear about the current climate in Iran over a celebrity dying, since it directly affects him. Similarly, other news would be deemed more important for other HMs too - we can't put a value on news. Considering this, it's a very subjective decision if they were to tell them about MJ, but not Iran. And therefore where are they expected to draw the line about which news to tell them?


They're going to find out eventually, few weeks at most .

[Nicky.]

Originally posted by BOSSChick
I`ve lost respect for Big Brother; can`t help but be angry about them not telling the housemates.

BET Awards 4th July. in the UK.
Channel 191.

Following what Lauren said, which is right, there is also important news that people want to know - maybe over MJ dying. It's not exactly going to affect their lives, but something in Iran or something would affect Siavash's, for example...

[Alf]

it didnt take janet long to get in to his home with her removal vans.

[BOSSChick]

Not even.

Personally, I feel strong about it.

It`s an historic moment to me.
MJ wasn`t just a celeb.
He was a legend. a trendsetter. an idol.


If I was in that house & they failed to tell me.

omg.

I`d be angry as hell.

But whatever.
People are always quick to water down his achievements.
Tarnish his name. 'celeb'. no Cheryl Cole is a celeb.

BB are idiots=]

[Lauren]

Originally posted by BOSSChick

But whatever.
People are always quick to water down his achievements.
Tarnish his name. 'celeb'. no Cheryl Cole is a celeb.

BB are idiots=]

I'm not "tarnishing his name" as you say.

I just think that beyond the initial shock and upset, it won't directly impact their lives, whereas the upheaval in Iran WILL, and I'm sure with a choice, Siavash would rather hear about that. With that subjectivity arising, I can see BB made the right choice.

They knew by going in the BB house, they'd have a media blackout. They accepted that, so whether they're angry for not being told or not?... They signed up for it.

[BOSSChick]

&&; why aren`t BB telling all the housemates about Iran.
Farrah Fawcett.
Michael Jackson.

Certain things need to be prioritised over entertainment.

I hope a helicopter flies over & tell the housemates.

BB10 is crap anyways .. I only watch it in hope it`ll improve.

[Lauren]

^ I do understand your point, but if they're going to tell them SOME news, then it could be argued why they're not telling them other stuff that may bear relevance to them. They signed up to the show knowing they won't be told of big news, so I guess they'll have to wait til they're out before they hear it.

[BOSSChick]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by BOSSChick

But whatever.
People are always quick to water down his achievements.
Tarnish his name. 'celeb'. no Cheryl Cole is a celeb.

BB are idiots=]

I'm not "tarnishing his name" as you say.

I just think that beyond the initial shock and upset, it won't directly impact their lives, whereas the upheaval in Iran WILL, and I'm sure with a choice, Siavash would rather hear about that. With that subjectivity arising, I can see BB made the right choice.

They knew by going in the BB house, they'd have a media blackout. They accepted that, so whether they're angry for not being told or not?... They signed up for it.

I understand what your saying.

100%.

It`s just that feelings should go over rules.

No, MJ dying won`t mean they`ll commit suicide.

But It did affect me; personally.
So has the Iran electons.

So, why did BB allow them to see Barack`s speech ?

Double standards or what ..

[LisaHawk]

Originally posted by BOSSChick
Not even.

Personally, I feel strong about it.

It`s an historic moment to me.
MJ wasn`t just a celeb.
He was a legend. a trendsetter. an idol.


If I was in that house & they failed to tell me.

omg.

I`d be angry as hell.

But whatever.
People are always quick to water down his achievements.
Tarnish his name. 'celeb'. no Cheryl Cole is a celeb.

BB are idiots=]

Completely agree, he wasn't just a regular old celebrity. People fainted when he came on stage! He was arguably the best musician ever. Nobody can deny that when his music starts playing, you like it.

[Billy]

Originally posted by BOSSChick
&&; why aren`t BB telling all the housemates about Iran.
Farrah Fawcett.
Michael Jackson.

Certain things need to be prioritised over entertainment.

I hope a helicopter flies over & tell the housemates.

BB10 is c**p anyways .. I only watch it in hope it`ll improve.

Whats the point in them being there? It would be just as effective letting them home for weekend visits by your theory.

[LisaHawk]

Originally posted by Billy

Whats the point in them being there? It would be just as effective letting them home for weekend visits by your theory.

So, why have they done it in previous years?

[Billy]

Originally posted by LisaHawk
Originally posted by Billy

Whats the point in them being there? It would be just as effective letting them home for weekend visits by your theory.

So, why have they done it in previous years?

I dunno, and don't really care. They aren't 'entitled' to finding out, they weren't even told about the July bombings in LDN, which could have directly affected them, so no way should they be told that MJ is dead.

[BOSSChick]

Lmao; I love debates=]

xx

[Lauren]

Originally posted by LisaHawk

Completely agree, he wasn't just a regular old celebrity. People fainted when he came on stage! He was arguably the best musician ever. Nobody can deny that when his music starts playing, you like it.

I agree, but it doesn't mean they should be told.

[BOSSChick]

Originally posted by LisaHawk
Originally posted by BOSSChick
Not even.

Personally, I feel strong about it.

It`s an historic moment to me.
MJ wasn`t just a celeb.
He was a legend. a trendsetter. an idol.


If I was in that house & they failed to tell me.

omg.

I`d be angry as hell.

But whatever.
People are always quick to water down his achievements.
Tarnish his name. 'celeb'. no Cheryl Cole is a celeb.

BB are idiots=]

Completely agree, he wasn't just a regular old celebrity. People fainted when he came on stage! He was arguably the best musician ever. Nobody can deny that when his music starts playing, you like it.

=]

Exactly.
He has inspired me.
Open doors for black people.
MTV didn`t wana play music made by black people ..

MJ was so major they had to !! ..

Thanks 4 the music MJ. xx

&&; he`s a badman dancer. love watching him dance.

[BOSSChick]

Originally posted by LisaHawk
Originally posted by BOSSChick
Not even.

Personally, I feel strong about it.

It`s an historic moment to me.
MJ wasn`t just a celeb.
He was a legend. a trendsetter. an idol.


If I was in that house & they failed to tell me.

omg.

I`d be angry as hell.

But whatever.
People are always quick to water down his achievements.
Tarnish his name. 'celeb'. no Cheryl Cole is a celeb.

BB are idiots=]

Completely agree, he wasn't just a regular old celebrity. People fainted when he came on stage! He was arguably the best musician ever. Nobody can deny that when his music starts playing, you like it.

=]

Exactly.
He has inspired me.
Open doors for black people.
MTV didn`t wana play music made by black people ..

MJ was so major they had to !! ..

Thanks 4 the music MJ. xx

&&; he`s a badman dancer. love watching him dance.

[Iceman]

WOW one year on..............this year flew in

[lol]

Holy **** this is old lol.

[Shaun]

god this thread was insane...Tom was such a douchebag.