**Big Brother (02/07/09) Highlights Discussion**

[alchemists1]

yep sree the best man will win,cant wait to sree on bbbm hope they rip him to shreds.

[Harry!]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO
i hope kris goes in a bizarre twist!

Death

[Indierock&roll]

i have a feeling freddie will go.. just because they arnt showing much of sree and lots of freddie.. hmm

[HELLIWONTGO]

i think they should do a task with either a flame thrower or a rusty chainsaw!

[bluebelle21]

Anyone else notice Marcus's artist costume is torn at the armpit! lol

[Rollerball-Rocco]

By the Gods, did Sree just say something insightful?

[IndigoJo]

OMG, Sree just said something intelligent! He said that the people outside the house would understand Freddie!

And Siavash was right to stand on the fence, kept himself from being put on either side, but then said he likes Freddie.

:thumbs:

[okies]

that pisses me off now, they tried to make out as if karly sophie and siavash all said theyd prefer sree stayed on their site and it was blatant siavash was being impartial, esp because sree was standing right bloody there. zzz

[Saph]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO
just imagine if sophie was the brightest h/mate !!!:shocked:
lol ill never forget on BBLB last year when they were putting the HM's in IQ order, and Steph had the highest IQ :laugh:

[alchemists1]

I must admit as much as I dislike sree id rather 1 of the nobodys would go,like kris dogface karly lisa theres just no point to them being in there if all they do is bitch and moan.

[HELLIWONTGO]

you got it harry

[Blink_Me]

Originally posted by Indierock&roll
i have a feeling freddie will go.. just because they arnt showing much of sree and lots of freddie.. hmm

Not going to happen.

[HELLIWONTGO]

i wish people would realise that kris is ok for a tosspot!

[bluebelle21]

Originally posted by Indierock&roll
i have a feeling freddie will go.. just because they arnt showing much of sree and lots of freddie.. hmm

But if you go by the opinion polls then Sree will def go!

[Miss-red]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO
just imagine if sophie was the brightest h/mate !!!:shocked: ha ha i nearly chocked on my water then lol

[bluebelle21]

Originally posted by bluebelle21
Originally posted by Indierock&roll
i have a feeling freddie will go.. just because they arnt showing much of sree and lots of freddie.. hmm

But if you go by the opinion polls then Sree will def go!

And the ppl that vote in them are more likely to vote on the actual show!

[okies]

Originally posted by bluebelle21
Originally posted by Indierock&roll
i have a feeling freddie will go.. just because they arnt showing much of sree and lots of freddie.. hmm

But if you go by the opinion polls then Sree will def go!

i think its the same like 2 or 3 people who keep making the "save sree" posts over and over and over. maybe people forget that its still only the small group of the same people saying that lol. im almost certain sree is gone.

[Saph]

i dont get why people think Kris is so bad :conf: i dont like him but i dont actually know what hes done which is so bad lol

[alchemists1]

Id rather they did a task where the juggle with bombs 1st 1 to drop 1 is outta there,right out over the fence.

[HELLIWONTGO]

poor old freddie!

[HELLIWONTGO]

Originally posted by alchemists1
Id rather they did a task where the juggle with bombs 1st 1 to drop 1 is outta there,right out over the fence.


i like your thinking!

[okies]

who says hes preaching to the public? stupid cow

[Harry!]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO
poor old freddie!

:thumbs:

[tinkerbell]

wish that carly would speak for herself not saying 'we' like shes a president

[Indierock&roll]

god so rude

[Miss-red]

i wish karly would shut up i like her accent but the rubbish that comes out of her mouth is doing my head in. she's bloody rude.

[Conzors]

Go Karly and Sophie!!!

[Saph]

LOL i actually agree with Sophie :eureka:

[Enid]

Sophie do not even go there you silly little bitch.

Lisa walked over to Freddie when he was chatting to Charlie...

[Stephanie]

"dinnae" <<< pissing me off.

[alchemists1]

have karly and lisa just realized how they've been with freddy how the public can see that they are bullies.

[DaniBoi]

Sophie, like gets on my nerves, like.

[okies]

god i cant believe people call FREDDIE a scheming person. the lot of them are scheming to make him look bad

[Wildcat!]

what Sophie said just now, is exactly what Freddie is doing. Too bad no one seem to see his game. He would realy wind me up, if I dont want to talk to him, and he still wants to come and preach.

[Enid]

Hahah "it's true".

[Indierock&roll]

pft yeah whatever karly

[Conzors]

LOOOL KARLY!!

[HELLIWONTGO]

karly isn't 2 faced if she was she wouldn't wear that 1

[Harry!]

Shut up Karly blonde bimbo

[alchemists1]

lol karly 2 faced not bad cumming from someone who steals her best freinds boyfreind and as for her boyfreind.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by SaphLiike
LOL i actually agree with Sophie :eureka:

Exactly! But the thickies cant seem to see it.

[okies]

karlys done it. officially do NOT like her now. thx for help makin my mind up

[Enid]

Oh ffs. Now Lisa has to join in. :rolleyes:

[Miss-red]

lisa can't help herself. thought she didn't wanna talk to him lol

[Saph]

urgh Lisa shut up a sec and just let Karly and Sophie talk to him

[Adamw92]

wow they are really ganging up on Freddie

[IndigoJo]

Okay..... I hate Karly now. What an ignorant twit!

She admits that it is THEY who all not liking him, she was talking about THEM, not herself, saying he annoys "everybody" not just letting her own opinion stand.

He was trying to build a bridge there, trying to understand what she was upset about.

They are such jerks.

PLEASE HAVE A WHOLE-HOUSE EVICTION SOON!!!!!!

:conf2:

[alchemists1]

karly grow up your voice goes threw me.

[DaniBoi]

Need subititles when this hardfaced tramp opens her mouth.

[okies]

karly shut your dirty ****in mouth you wee cow. swear to god, shes crossing so many lines here

[Conzors]

LOOL I LOVE KARLY!!

[Adamw92]

wow they are really ganging up on Freddie today, Karly is getting very mean

[HELLIWONTGO]

look at karlys face you can see the bitterness there!

[Indierock&roll]

this is making me reaaaaaally angry!
god i wish i was like freddie staying that calm

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Adamw92
wow they are really ganging up on Freddie

SOrry but they are not. Freddie compltetely provoked them in a subtle way!

[Saph]

"you've not been making eye contact with me today"

:rolleyes: that was a pretty silly thing to say

[IndigoJo]

Originally posted by Enid
Sophie do not even go there you silly little bitch.

Lisa walked over to Freddie when he was chatting to Charlie...

:hello::hello::hello::hello::hello:

[Conzors]

Stop Dissing Karly, you all are just jealous because you know shes right!
x

[Stephanie]

Originally posted by DaniBoi
Need subititles when this hardfaced tramp opens her mouth.
agreed.

[okies]

i feel bad for freddie, NOT because hes phishing for sympathy but because i think hes toned down the "annoying" thing and hes trying and keeps gettin knocked back

[Indierock&roll]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Adamw92
wow they are really ganging up on Freddie

SOrry but they are not. Freddie compltetely provoked them in a subtle way!
he just wants to know what there problem is? whats wrong with that and then they go into a fully blown argument saying all sorts about him its so sly

[andyman]

Originally posted by Conzors
Go Karly and Sophie!!! What a vile person you are.

[Harry!]

Originally posted by stefani
Originally posted by DaniBoi
Need subititles when this hardfaced tramp opens her mouth.
agreed.

I have subtitles on when I have BB on.

[tinkerbell]

sophie needs to go back to school not trying to look like a brainless hooker.

[Saph]

Freddie you dont want to clear the air!!! otherwise you wouldent be saying all this eye contact blah blah stuff. If i was you i would just say **** them and get on with my time without them lot

[loomy]

If they're so sure he has a gamplan why are they playing straight into his hands

It's FREDDIE who has made himself look good - he reacts in the opposite way to the others when confronted, he stays calm and reasonable and articulates what's wrong but the others just start getting angry and become unable to articulate their grievances.

Okay, but Freddie with Noirin = no chance lol

[Adamw92]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Adamw92
wow they are really ganging up on Freddie

SOrry but they are not. Freddie compltetely provoked them in a subtle way!

But they were ALL still shouting at him at the same time, i'm not really a fan of him but karly should have took him to one side to say all that instead of in thegarden where Lisa, Sophie, Kris and everyone could join in...

[alchemists1]

I suppose freddy is opening outher housemates eyes to what the dk head gang are like.

[Indierock&roll]

Originally posted by Conzors
Stop Dissing Karly, you all are just jealous because you know shes right!
x

pft yeah okay

[Harry!]

What is it, Wacky Wherehouse?

[Rollerball-Rocco]

And Karly nominates Marcus because of HIS swearing!!

[alchemists1]

charlie thinks he casnt get away with anything as long as kris laughs.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Indierock&roll
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Adamw92
wow they are really ganging up on Freddie

SOrry but they are not. Freddie compltetely provoked them in a subtle way!
he just wants to know what there problem is? whats wrong with that and then they go into a fully blown argument saying all sorts about him its so sly

But they dont want to talk to him, and he insist in pushing their buttons. I am no fan of Lisa, but Freddie provoked all that, and he knows exactly what he is doing. He knew the result he was gonna get.

[Indierock&roll]

hahaha "youll never forget rodrigo"

[tinkerbell]

lisa the vile butch ladyman

[eviled2]

What a bunch of cowards...they think they are on such safe ground bullying Freddie because they think the public hates him too.
I just hope he stays the course and allows time and evicitons to reveal their delluded mob mentality towards him.
T'will be most sweet!:elephant:

[Saph]

lol Charlies mustash if half way down his chest

[Miss-red]

Originally posted by Conzors
Stop Dissing Karly, you all are just jealous because you know shes right!
x most definately not. i'm not afraid to admit when somebody's right or i'm wrong but in this case i'm not wrong and she's not right

[andyman]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Adamw92
wow they are really ganging up on Freddie

SOrry but they are not. Freddie compltetely provoked them in a subtle way! Another pro dk head gang member.

[Enid]

Sophie's voice annoys the sh*t out of me.. I don't even know why. She is too simple.

[Rollerball-Rocco]

"Elvis, stay out of it" and Sree sits like a puppy.

[Indierock&roll]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Indierock&roll
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Adamw92
wow they are really ganging up on Freddie

SOrry but they are not. Freddie compltetely provoked them in a subtle way!
he just wants to know what there problem is? whats wrong with that and then they go into a fully blown argument saying all sorts about him its so sly

But they dont want to talk to him, and he insist in pushing their buttons. I am no fan of Lisa, but Freddie provoked all that, and he knows exactly what he is doing. He knew the result he was gonna get.
he only started with talking to karly anyway... just talking not roaring at him like that

[okies]

on a side note... rodrigo is ridiculously pretty o__O

[HELLIWONTGO]

look at karlys hard face

[Harry!]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
lisa the vile butch ladyman

Thought you said ladybum :blush2:

[Indierock&roll]

Originally posted by okies
on a side note... rodrigo is ridiculously pretty o__O

oh god i know, mm

[cleaner67]

Rodrigo got annoyed then didn`t he, mind you Charlie was being a bit rough

[Christina]

Wow Freddie's going a bit mad in there =S

[HELLIWONTGO]

Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Adamw92
wow they are really ganging up on Freddie

SOrry but they are not. Freddie compltetely provoked them in a subtle way! Another pro dk head gang member.


yes i thought that!

[Saph]

loving Siavash showing some boob action :hugesmile:

[Wildcat!]

See Freddie basically said exactly waht I was saying. HE is purposely winding people up to get them to blow up!
Plus they lack Tobacco and he knows they are even more irritable.

[Harry!]

Shut up Miss Benefits

[HELLIWONTGO]

Originally posted by Christina
Wow Freddie's going a bit mad in there =S


where you been your a bit late!:xyxwave:

[okies]

good GOD her accent is the most annoying accent i think ive ever heard in my life. or maybe its just her voice

[Lauren]

Lisa's voice is so annoying, it's not even her accent. She accentuates every vowel "gaaaaaaameeee plaaaaan"

[Indierock&roll]

god her accent is annoying

[Adamw92]

Originally posted by andyman
Another pro dk head gang member.

First of all, I don't like all of the "dk head gang" and second of all, why are you here?

[IndigoJo]

I blame the crappy ice cream, made everyone very touchy!!!

:joker:

[Lauren]

Originally posted by okies
good GOD her accent is the most annoying accent i think ive ever heard in my life. or maybe its just her voice

Haha we posted at the same time about the same thing :thumbs: Great minds

[cleaner67]

Freddie may think it but we know it ( them following Lisa )

[Miss-red]

she's a liar she doesn't care less about freddie

[Indierock&roll]

OH GOD rodrigo YUM

[HELLIWONTGO]

lisa loads the gun and hard face karly fires it!

[Harry!]

Rod in the shower...

[Saph]

i would seriously slap Freddie if i was in there. and sree

[okies]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by okies
good GOD her accent is the most annoying accent i think ive ever heard in my life. or maybe its just her voice

Haha we posted at the same time about the same thing :thumbs: Great minds

:tongue:

[DaniBoi]

This is getting pathetic. When is bb going to do something.

[HELLIWONTGO]

good old freddie they are scum!!!

[okies]

omg his toes are freaking me out hahahldkhlfkh

[alchemists1]

thats bullshit that they passed the shopping task,as for freddy 1st time today he's been in the diaryroom and they are all bitching abouts it.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by Adamw92
Originally posted by andyman
Another pro dk head gang member.

First of all, I don't like all of the "dk head gang" and second of all, why are you here?


THats Andyman, he's got 2 brain cells so he cant really come up with a proper argument. HE just throws words at random. So dont worry!:spin2:

[Stephanie]

i feel really sorry for halwit,
and he is my fav housemate by far but,
he seems like he's going abit mad :conf2:

[okies]

Originally posted by stefani
i feel really sorry for halwit,
and he is my fav housemate by far but,
he seems like he's going abit mad :conf2:

you can tell its draining him. its a shame really

[Harry!]

Freds having a good day

[Saph]

can anyone here a faint BB theme tune :S

[Adamw92]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha

THats Andyman, he's got 2 brain cells so he cant really come up with a proper argument. HE just throws words at random. So dont worry!:spin2:

Thought so, people discuss the housemates and whats happening, he just comments on the members on here

[loomy]

why is he still clinging onto this Karly thing. He's really missed something there in his analysis - she is as powerful as Lisa withing their little group!

[cleaner67]

Glad he had a nice day and that he`s taking it all in his stride.
Did you see Freddie can curl his little toe over the others i tried but cann`t do it

[Lauren]

Originally posted by stefani
i feel really sorry for halwit,
and he is my fav housemate by far but,
he seems like he's going abit mad :conf2:

Yeah he's getting paranoid. No wonder with being ganged up upon everyday, but still

[Blink_Me]

I think Freddie's in denial. He looks like a broken man.

[andyman]

Originally posted by Adamw92
Originally posted by andyman
Another pro dk head gang member.

First of all, I don't like all of the "dk head gang" and second of all, why are you here? Same reason as you..

[Stephanie]

Originally posted by okies
Originally posted by stefani
i feel really sorry for halwit,
and he is my fav housemate by far but,
he seems like he's going abit mad :conf2:

you can tell its draining him. its a shame really
yeah, he seems abit put down and drained, and i don't blame him but it just makes you think really.

[HELLIWONTGO]

but he is a sucess inlife the sheep are all losers!

[Rollerball-Rocco]

If that's a good day, I can't wait to see a bad one.

[IndigoJo]

Originally posted by eviled2
What a bunch of cowards...they think they are on such safe ground bullying Freddie because they think the public hates him too.
I just hope he stays the course and allows time and evicitons to reveal their delluded mob mentality towards him.
T'will be most sweet!:elephant:

Love it!!!

AND isn't it groovy that he remains so calm when he argues (mostly) and that he is saying that he has had a GOOD DAY INDEED! I'd have torn my hair out by now, trying to reason with those dim-wits.

I love that they can't truly wind him up!

:bouncy:

[HELLIWONTGO]

this must be a culture shock for lisa to be around so many people that work for a living!

[shams79]

Look I like Halfwit, but today he will did push it with those twats, he should'nt staqnd there and want to agrue with them, but did'nt Rodgrio do well I throught he ws going to really give Charlie what for.....but in support of Halfwit this is bullying in its vilest form.

[Harry!]

Hate this gel advert

[*mazedsalv**]

Loving the fact that nothing will bring Freddie down, tbe more they argue with him, the more relaxed he feels.

[Adamw92]

Originally posted by andyman
Same reason as you..

Riiiight, thats why you commented on who i support and not the arguement i was discussing that was happening on screen?

[tinkerbell]

They are all so dumb i really want to vomit on them

[Enid]

He has the situation down to a T. Seems like his gameplan to expose all the HMs have worked.

Good on Freddie. :thumbs:

[Stephanie]

i can't believe lisa thinks she been backing away from arguements and stuff, she's been even worse. :conf:

[andyman]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Adamw92
Originally posted by andyman
Another pro dk head gang member.

First of all, I don't like all of the "dk head gang" and second of all, why are you here?


THats Andyman, he's got 2 brain cells so he cant really come up with a proper argument. HE just throws words at random. So dont worry!:spin2: You know me so well..

So you agree with how the others treat Freddie?

[Lauren]

Originally posted by Enid
He has the situation down to a T. Seems like his gameplan to expose all the HMs have worked.

Good on Freddie. :thumbs:

It's refreshing to see a gameplan beyond the "I'll do lots of cleaning!" and "I will partner with someone who seems popular!"

He has very good social intelligence.

[alchemists1]

I think its lisa and kris who freddy should be watching and as for charlie he is still as fake as ever realizes that they are all nasty bastards to freddy but asslong as he says he likes him he thinks us the public wont see how nasty he is,he done the same with angel.

[Katie_Griffin]

Halfwit- one man against the world! god bless the man

[*mazedsalv**]

WTF "Ive had my first ever argument"
Yeah because thats something to be prud of herself, stupid idiotic girl :mad:

[Enid]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Enid
He has the situation down to a T. Seems like his gameplan to expose all the HMs have worked.

Good on Freddie. :thumbs:

"I will partner with someone who seems popular!"
Haha, I think that is Charlie's gameplan. :laugh:

[Saph]

lol "hes always there"

...well you are living together

[*mazedsalv**]

Not 3rd time.... ITS THE 4TH!!!!

[loomy]

Oh wait Freddie should start apologising for existing

[alchemists1]

who the **** does karly think she is.

[shams79]

That Karly makes me sick she is only upset that Kris as Dogface

[HELLIWONTGO]

i think they edited that

[Saph]

See Karly said a nice thing about Freddie!

[Lauren]

Karly was one of my faves about a week ago, now she's right at the bottom.

[Wildcat!]

Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Adamw92
Originally posted by andyman
Another pro dk head gang member.

First of all, I don't like all of the "dk head gang" and second of all, why are you here?


THats Andyman, he's got 2 brain cells so he cant really come up with a proper argument. HE just throws words at random. So dont worry!:spin2: You know me so well..

So you agree with how the others treat Freddie?

Come back and talk to me when you grow at least another brain cell.
And for the record, thats what you should have said at first instead of that typical brainless first comment.

[*mazedsalv**]

Great HL show, but very uncomfortable to watch yet again.

[Indierock&roll]

LOL karly whats with the suudden change of heart? realised something..

[Saph]

Well tonights made me hate Freddie even more :hello:

[alchemists1]

lol it was like karly was reading from an autocue.
btw if any1 wants a laugh they should read the thread on hear thats found out her name on sum chat forum and see how nasty the lil cow is.

[IndigoJo]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by Enid
He has the situation down to a T. Seems like his gameplan to expose all the HMs have worked.

Good on Freddie. :thumbs:

It's refreshing to see a gameplan beyond the "I'll do lots of cleaning!" and "I will partner with someone who seems popular!"

He has very good social intelligence.

And let's not forget the "I will have a relationship with someone good looking for the cameras" gameplan.

:yuk:

[Saph]

Originally posted by alchemists1
lol it was like karly was reading from an autocue.
btw if any1 wants a laugh they should read the thread on hear thats found out her name on sum chat forum and see how nasty the lil cow is.

but calling someone a lil cow is nastly also

[Rollerball-Rocco]

I notice that although Freddy doesn't use the terms victimised/bullied, the others bring them up all the time re Freddy. Freudian?

[andyman]

Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by andyman
Originally posted by Aint_mad_atcha
Originally posted by Adamw92
Originally posted by andyman
Another pro dk head gang member.

First of all, I don't like all of the "dk head gang" and second of all, why are you here?


THats Andyman, he's got 2 brain cells so he cant really come up with a proper argument. HE just throws words at random. So dont worry!:spin2: You know me so well..

So you agree with how the others treat Freddie?

Come back and talk to me when you grow at least another brain cell.
And for the record, thats what you should have said at first instead of that typical brainless first comment. So do you agree with how the others treat Freddie?

[cleaner67]

BB got that wrong i think she said how do you think he feels being up for the 3rd time but it`s the 4th isn`t it.
I`d just like to say how much i enjoy reading every ones comments and posting my replys, especially as out of the 5 of us that live here i am the only BB fan, so have no one to talk to about it.

[eviled2]

Just don't want them to break him!
I feel he needs tomorrow night to come quickly to get that injection of confidence and strength when Sree gets his marching orders.
I'm sure that will replenish Freddie's stocks of resolve and piss those bullying cowards right off...with any luck it might make them feel just a little trepidation too!:elephant:

[IndigoJo]

I like how BB asked Karly and Lisa how they think Freddie feels, makes them stop and find a shred of humanness. Not that they have much.

[Indierock&roll]

Originally posted by Rollerball-Rocco
I notice that although Freddy doesn't use the terms victimised/bullied, the others bring them up all the time re Freddy. Freudian?
yeah thats true he has never said hes being bullied they just put words in his mouth

[alchemists1]

Originally posted by SaphLiike
Originally posted by alchemists1
lol it was like karly was reading from an autocue.
btw if any1 wants a laugh they should read the thread on hear thats found out her name on sum chat forum and see how nasty the lil cow is.

but calling someone a lil cow is nastly also

yep your right but I hate bullies who act like her so if you give it expect it back.

[Saph]

If you lot think Freddie is being bullied, you should have gone to my primary school, that was considerd nice :laugh2:


edit: by the way this is only a joke, the kids werent this bad. But still pretty awful lol

[alchemists1]

and im sure she's heard worse,from what ive heard anyways.

[Saph]

Originally posted by alchemists1
Originally posted by SaphLiike
Originally posted by alchemists1
lol it was like karly was reading from an autocue.
btw if any1 wants a laugh they should read the thread on hear thats found out her name on sum chat forum and see how nasty the lil cow is.

but calling someone a lil cow is nastly also

yep your right but I hate bullies who act like her so if you give it expect it back.

ok, but i still dont see the bullying :conf2: hopefully one day freddie will slap them all round the face's to make them back off :)

[Enid]

Originally posted by SaphLiike
If you lot think Freddie is being bullied, you should have gone to my primary school, that was considerd nice :laugh2:
You know there are different forms of bullying right?

[alchemists1]

K fair enough I think bullying is the wrong word I think its more a case of picking on him,I know freddy is probable annoying but just the way they talk to him aint on,I know if I was out and spooke to someone the way they do freddy id get a slap,anyways each to there own.

[eviled2]

Originally posted by SaphLiike
If you lot think Freddie is being bullied, you should have gone to my primary school, that was considerd nice :laugh2:

Not many grown adults in primary school last time I looked.
Kids will be kids but this singling out a perceived weak member of a group for victimisation is reprehensible behaviour for adults.

[Saph]

Originally posted by alchemists1
K fair enough I think bullying is the wrong word I think its more a case of picking on him,I know freddy is probable annoying but just the way they talk to him aint on,I know if I was out and spooke to someone the way they do freddy id get a slap,anyways each to there own.

I agree :wink: that makes alot more sence to me lol