The BBC Future

[arista]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1197442/The-licence-fee-admits-BBC-boss-Cost-watching-TV-council-tax-bill.html


Good News the CEO of the BBC
says the Out dated direct BBC tax will go.

The Bloated BBC
needs to change and take away the Direct Tax
as it is bad value.



Life In The City.

[andyman]

The BBC is value for money, worth every penny!

Arista, please give me the good and bad reasons for this?

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
The BBC is value for money, worth every penny!

Arista, please give me the good and bad reasons for this?


You stand by the Bloated BBC.
The Good news is that Direct BBC Tax will go
it is out dated and no good in these times
That it what matters
not your Pathetic stand for the BBC.

[andyman]

Right ok.. Arista do you even know anything?

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
Right ok.. Arista do you even know anything?


This is a Better Future
It comes out of Council Tax
means every home will pay
So you still get your Bloated Money for
your Bland BBC.
Top Slicing will benefit other channels doing Public Broadcasting.

[andyman]

The BBC is value for money.. Look at all the tv and radio channels you get, plus fantastic web and mobile phone support with bbc iplayer, the iplayer is now for mobile aswell.

Saying that the bbc is bloated is invalid, you need to argue the cause with more depth..

[arista]

You do not Tell me What I need to Argue.
Fact.

[andyman]

Another invalid post by Arista..:nono:

You dislike the BBC because.. "they are bloated!"

You're knowlege is nonsensical.

[arista]

Thats your view
and you are not valid on many of your posts.
It is the End of the BBC Direct Tax.
Time For Change.

[arista]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/video/2009/aug/29/edinburghtvfestival-television1

This is a Great Interview with James Murdoch
runs for 6mins
with Graphs like the one at the very end
shows us why the BBC is so Bloated.

[Shaun]

I don't think it's wise to listen to a Murdoch on the standard of media dominance and representation - it'd be like listening to criticism from Josef Fritzl on the Social Services.

[arista]

I don't think it's wise to listen to a Murdoch on the standard of media dominance and representation - it'd be like listening to criticism from Josef Fritzl on the Social Services.



I do not agree.
And he is No problem to listen to.

[Tom]

If it was scr*pped altogether no BBC license fee would mean ITV have to compete even more for ad revenue and they are already struggling as it is. Then that will have a knock on effect on Channel 4 and 5, and there would be new big players for funding for big digital channels meaning reduced profits and so on. The same applies to radio.

If we're paying through Council Tax rather than the TV License itself, we're still paying for the BBC but just a different method. Its like online shopping and paying once through credit card then the next time using Paypal. Its exactly the same thing but just coated as something else.

[arista]

Sure Tom
but it is going to change.

[andyman]

You do hate the truth Arista..

Arista is just some 80s fax machine..

The BBC is not going to change, Arista needs to change or he will end up in some Afgan fax machine repair shop.

[bansheewails]

As someone from outside the UK, can I just say that the BBC is worth every penny. Brilliant drama's, comedies that take a chance, even the news is realiable! Comeone with out the BBC you would have american type advertising long ago. Ad's every 8 minutes in the States, I rather pull my own teeth!

That is one thing the UK should be very proud of their television and their terrestra channels! Long live the Beeb!

Without it I would have been stuck watching RTE, and believe me RTE in the 1980 and 1990's was all country music and farming news!

:hugesmile:

[arista]

As someone from outside the UK, can I just say that the BBC is worth every penny. Brilliant drama's, comedies that take a chance, even the news is realiable! Comeone with out the BBC you would have american type advertising long ago. Ad's every 8 minutes in the States, I rather pull my own teeth!

That is one thing the UK should be very proud of their television and their terrestra channels! Long live the Beeb!

Without it I would have been stuck watching RTE, and believe me RTE in the 1980 and 1990's was all country music and farming news!

:hugesmile:


HBO has no ads within shows.

The BBC will live long but it must change
It is Over Bloated
Fact.

[bansheewails]

As someone from outside the UK, can I just say that the BBC is worth every penny. Brilliant drama's, comedies that take a chance, even the news is realiable! Comeone with out the BBC you would have american type advertising long ago. Ad's every 8 minutes in the States, I rather pull my own teeth!

That is one thing the UK should be very proud of their television and their terrestra channels! Long live the Beeb!

Without it I would have been stuck watching RTE, and believe me RTE in the 1980 and 1990's was all country music and farming news!

:hugesmile:


HBO has no ads within shows.

The BBC will live long but it must change
It is Over Bloated
Fact.

I'm sorry, but I can't take someone seriously that thinks a Murdochs opinions on the BBC being a monopoly as fact! The Murdoch corporations are taking over the media and now they want to interfer in the BBC. I think they shoud be run out of europe myself, no one corporation should have that much control over what we watch, read and browse! I think yu should be less worried about the BBC being Bloated and more worried about the reasons the Murdoch's are poking their nose in.

[arista]

He can not change the BBC
but his Views are very important.
Many TV executives agreed with what he stated about
the Bloated BBC.





"James Murdoch was right
We need a civilised discussion, not an Edinburgh shouting match, in order to start finding media solutions"


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/aug/30/media-bbc-edinburgh-internet-recession

[andyman]

Good for the BBC.. worth every penny!

I would even pay more for it..

Sky is the bloated devil..

But Arista you really need to learn about what Tom said, it will help you understand why we are right and why you are so wrong.

Thank you please.

[Tom]

Sure Tom
but it is going to change.

If its being paid for via council tax, then no it isn't going to change.

If it is scrapped altogether, then the TV industry will collapse.

[arista]

Sure Tom
but it is going to change.

If its being paid for via council tax, then no it isn't going to change.

If it is scr*pped altogether, then the TV industry will collapse.


No the BBC will have to allow Top Slicing
they are to Greedy with Public Money
That is the Mega change that will help
News & Arts on Commercial stations.


That is what matters to Our Future.

[andyman]

Arista has no idea..

[Tom]

If its top sliced the BBC will just demand more and use a load of spin how it cant be supported, and then we're back at square one

[arista]

If its top sliced the BBC will just demand more and use a load of spin how it cant be supported, and then we're back at square one

No they will not
They will have no choice.


It is Time For Change.

[Tom]

But they'll get it

[andyman]

In Arista's world the BBC would have product placement on every show..

In Arista's world tv ad revenue would drop and would result in more ads in the tv shows on top of product placement.

In Arista's world 1,000s would lose their jobs.

In Arista's world we would have fk all to watch..

In Arista's world Sky TV would become bloated and greedy with many poor familes priced out from watching sky, and Sky would out bid any network for tv rights..

In Arista's world the machines will rise and hunt down the human race..

[arista]

This thread is about the BBC's Future.
Not some silly post by Andyman.


Well done to RAF Tom.

[Tom4784]

I don't mind the BBC the money they get from Tax allows them more room for more interesting and better content. If it lost the tax money, it'd become another ITV1 and NOBODY wants another ITV.

People would coplain about programs like Doctor Who being cancelled or downgraded due to the fact that BBC couldn't cover the costs without the tax money.

[andyman]

Arista you're the one that makes silly posts..

You know fk all about how the business works and the knock on effect it would have on British TV..

You post sh*t like "BBC must change" but you have nothing to back it up that would benefit the industry.

[Tom]

and whats even funnier is that it works out at about £3 a week, hardly bank breaking

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2007/Oct/Week3/1600077.jpg


On the BBC main news today
they said the BBC is to get smaller
which is common sense.

Meanwhile BBC Unions are getting ready to Strike.

I want a Refund if any strikes happen.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8247554.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8247139.stm


Some Public give a viewpoint
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8119913.stm

[arista]

Arista you're the one that makes silly posts..

You know fk all about how the business works and the knock on effect it would have on British TV..

You post sh*t like "BBC must change" but you have nothing to back it up that would benefit the industry.



Nothing Silly about my posts
and as I have Posted
The BBC is now going to change.


And Do not tell me about how you think
I do not know how business works
You have not met me.

[atieah2009]

Rupert Murdoch wants the BBC to be Like Fox News, then he will like it:thumbs: I seriously dont know why he is getting involved init, i like it when he speaks but some of his news channel are so biased

[arista]

Rupert Murdoch wants the BBC to be Like Fox News, then he will like it:thumbs: I seriously dont know why he is getting involved init, i like it when he speaks but some of his news channel are so biased


No he does not want it to be like Fox News.
He was talking about the size of the BBC
and now the BBC has said they are going to make it smaller

[andyman]

The BBC is great value for money, my tv licence is too cheap! I should pay more for what i get..

ITV.. Sh*t!
SKY.. Sh*t!

[arista]

The BBC is great value for money, my tv licence is too cheap! I should pay more for what i get..

ITV.. Sh*t!
SKY.. Sh*t!


You have said all this before.
What is Important now
is they are going to get smaller
which is common sense.
Ch4 is good as well.


Sign Of The Times.

[andyman]

The BBC is great value for money, my tv licence is too cheap! I should pay more for what i get..

ITV.. Sh*t!
SKY.. Sh*t!


You have said all this before.
What is Important now
is they are going to get smaller
which is common sense.
Ch4 is good as well.


Sign Of The Times."Common sense"
And why would that be so?

[arista]

The Bloated state of the BBC
has created this problem

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8247554.stm

[arista]

BBC storm as two of BNP's most notorious activists
are invited on Radio 1 to insult Ashley Cole.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/10/article-1219538-06C58ADA000005DC-781_468x335.jpg
Asking the questions: Debbie Randle in the BBC studios

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/10/article-1219538-055363F6000005DC-417_233x600.jpg
Race row: The BNP pair told Radio 1 that Ashley Cole,
pictured with wife Cheryl, is not British

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/10/article-1219538-06C2C901000005DC-894_468x265.jpg
Party officials Joey Barber and Mark Collett
pose as 'BNP supporters' for Radio 1 Newsbeat
but they have senior roles in the organisation

"Radio 1's Newsbeat programme introduced the interviewees
as 'two young guys who are members of the BNP' - but a Mail on Sunday investigation has discovered that they were, in fact, key members of the far-Right party's leadership"

The BBC is Funded by our money
they need to know what they are talking about.

And if a BNP member says something incorrect
they must be challenged.
Whatever part of the BBC is doing it.
Just because this is Radoi 1 Newsbeart
changes nothing.


The BBC is doing nothing about this Break of Code.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219538/BBC-storm-BNPs-notorious-activists-invited-Radio-1-insult-Ashley-Cole.html

[andyman]

Yes Arista you hate the BBC... We know!

[arista]

Yes Arista you hate the BBC... We know!


Utter Rubbish you talk.
I watch BBC.


Get On Topic as well.

[andyman]

Arista you're the one that talks rubbish... You can't even have a political debate!

Fact! :thumbs:

[arista]

Arista you're the one that talks rubbish... You can't even have a political debate!

Fact! :thumbs:


Again I ask you to Stay on Topic.

[arista]

Again I ask you to Stay on Topic.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219538/Ashley-Cole-insulted-BNP-interview-BBC-Radio-1.html

This is the Current BBC Update.

[arista]

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article7041944.ece


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/feb/26/bbc-media-radio-internet-website


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/feb/26/bbc-strategic-review

BBC Radio 6, 7 and Asian Network to close.

Radio 7 to become Radio4Extra.



The BBC wasted Millions on building errors
that was Public money wasted.


And The BBC Mags could be sold off.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the BBC is both brilliant, value for money and hideously bloated and wasteful. Having worked for the BBC in White City (badly named area of London) i can tell you that it was one big gravy train for many. This does not detract from the excellence of other staff and output.

what it needs is a DG that accepts this and acts rather than the one we have who spends his life with his head up his ass shouting.

[arista]

Yes The Bloated BBC
need to Delete stations
all in time for a Conservative power.

[andyman]

Yes The Bloated BBC
need to Delete stations
all in time for a Conservative power.You're very strange Mr.. :crazy:

[hennessy]

I'm glad it's going to change.
It's not the fact that I resented paying for my t.v. license it's the fact I had to!
For a few quid extra you can get a cheap sky package.
When I was young and living on my own with a crappie job and low wages, knowing I had to throw on an extra hundred and something onto my tv was a liberty.
I can live with adverts and if I had the choice I would've have scrapped my BBC channels, all I want is MotD.
Feck Fecking Dr. fecking Who.
And why is it that other free channels have better films on?

[arista]

I'm glad it's going to change.
It's not the fact that I resented paying for my t.v. license it's the fact I had to!
For a few quid extra you can get a cheap sky package.
When I was young and living on my own with a crappie job and low wages, knowing I had to throw on an extra hundred and something onto my tv was a liberty.
I can live with adverts and if I had the choice I would've have scrapped my BBC channels, all I want is MotD.
Feck Fecking Dr. fecking Who.
And why is it that other free channels have better films on?


Yes the Bloated BBC
do not need Radio 6 or 7.

[andyman]

I'm glad it's going to change.
It's not the fact that I resented paying for my t.v. license it's the fact I had to!
For a few quid extra you can get a cheap sky package.
When I was young and living on my own with a crappie job and low wages, knowing I had to throw on an extra hundred and something onto my tv was a liberty.
I can live with adverts and if I had the choice I would've have scrapped my BBC channels, all I want is MotD.
Feck Fecking Dr. fecking Who.
And why is it that other free channels have better films on?Fk Sky! I would pay more for my TV Licence, great value for money and the programs we get..

Channels like ITV, ch5 and 4 need ad revenue, without it then they would slowly sing with cheap tv.. If the BBC had to fund itself from ad revenue then the income from these ads would drop.. Sky is far overpriced.

[andyman]

Greedy Sky arista, greedy Sky.

[hennessy]

I don't have to pay for sky but I do for the bbc.
I'd like to see how it'll do with subscription but I'd fear they're too gutless.
Sky have all the best american tv shows, Lost, House, Chuck, Simpsons, etc
All bbc have is costume dramas and eastenders, whoop de fecking doo.

I admit good docu's but very few and vast inbetween.
Why should I have to pay £142 for MotD?
ps I can watch any team live on my laptop for free

[arista]

Greedy Sky arista, greedy Sky.


This thread is about the Future of The BBC
nothing to do with Sky.

The BBC has to make Big Cut Backs
just like everyone else.

[arista]

Fk Sky! I would pay more for my TV Licence, great value for money and the programs we get..

Channels like ITV, ch5 and 4 need ad revenue, without it then they would slowly sing with cheap tv.. If the BBC had to fund itself from ad revenue then the income from these ads would drop.. Sky is far overpriced.


Sky is Not Overpriced

You can have Sky Free of Charge
Sky Freesat
you only pay the once to get it set up.


you Andyman are living in the past
at times.

[andyman]

For all the channels you get, radio, fantastic programs and free bbc iplayer, it is worth the small fee which can be paid over 12 months.. Plus British tv need need the BBC to be funded by the public, ITV would have to cut costs on a very large scale if arista's pro Murdock Sky empire dreams came true..

[hennessy]

I'm just going to leave one remark before I go and do something else..
I download all my films, I watch all my sports live on my laptop for free and I haven't watched BBC in over a year. No BS.
I watch Football First round my friends on a saturday night with a couple of beers.
Why should I have to pay £142 a year for something I don't use?

[andyman]

Sky is Not Overpriced

You can have Sky Free of Charge
Sky Freesat
you only pay the once to get it set up.


you Andyman are living in the past
at times.You want the BBC to be funded by ads.. Freesat would become Paysat.. You really need to look into it more because that thought in your head does not mean fact.

[Tom]

Sky = greedy but its worth it for Sky Sports 1 I guess

I think Sky1 should go free to air, its not as though anyone signs up to Sky just so they can watch Sky1 ...

[Jack_]

The only good thing about the BBC is Radio 1.

[andyman]

I'm just going to leave one remark before I go and do something else..
I download all my films, I watch all my sports live on my laptop for free and I haven't watched BBC in over a year. No BS.
I watch Football First round my friends on a saturday night with a couple of beers.
Why should I have to pay £142 a year for something I don't use?Not everybody is like that, many enjoy the BBC and what it gives.. Unlike the brain dead ITV programs.

You could throw out your tv and any tv connection, don't know if that would work.. Lol but £2.73 per week is worth it..

[andyman]

The only good thing about the BBC is Radio 1.For you yes, please state that.

Thank you. :p

[Tom]

I don't watch much BBC but paying the license is no skin off my nose anyway, I like BBC3, The Apprentice, Radio 1 and the website, thats pretty much my entire BBC usage. The website is really good

[andyman]

OnDigital was good, same as Freeview.. Freeview would be better with the option to top up channels with Sky1, Sky Movies, Sky Sports, MTV.. Just like the OnDigital days. Sky Tv without a contract and a BT line.

[andyman]

£2.80 per week..

[arista]

Not everybody is like that, many enjoy the BBC and what it gives.. Unlike the brain dead ITV programs.

You could throw out your tv and any tv connection, don't know if that would work.. Lol but £2.73 per week is worth it..



ITV shows loads of Films in HD.

Ch4 , Ch5 also are good.


And Ch4HD is good as they also show many Films in HD.

[arista]

OnDigital was good, same as Freeview.. Freeview would be better with the option to top up channels with Sky1, Sky Movies, Sky Sports, MTV.. Just like the OnDigital days. Sky Tv without a contract and a BT line.


SkyTV also lets you have a virgin phone line , as well.

I do not have BT.

[andyman]

ITV shows loads of Films in HD.

Ch4 , Ch5 also are good.


And Ch4HD is good as they also show many Films in HD.Who pays for that?

[2010..BB]

i hate the BBC, they got no adverts, there stupid adverts with disabled people on wheelchairs and as for there lack of humour well...... one chanel out of 4 is embarresing

and 2bh bbc 3 aint even that fuuny wtf is that crap scallwagga??

[Shasown]

i hate the BBC, they got no adverts, there stupid adverts with disabled people on wheelchairs and as for there lack of humour well...... one chanel out of 4 is embarresing

and 2bh bbc 3 aint even that fuuny wtf is that crap scallwagga??

Oh I see, the BBC hated by yourself because they dont have adverts? Oh except for those stupid adverts with disabled people.

Do you think that may be because they dont need to use advertising to obtain revenue for running costs because of the money allocated out of the TV licence Fee?

What is 2bh, is that like text speak? Thats not funny you know.

[andyman]

i hate the BBC, they got no adverts, there stupid adverts with disabled people on wheelchairs and as for there lack of humour well...... one chanel out of 4 is embarresing

and 2bh bbc 3 aint even that fuuny wtf is that crap scallwagga??Thank you for your input.. NEXT!

[2010..BB]

Do you think that may be because they dont need to use advertising to obtain revenue for running costs because of the money allocated out of the TV licence Fee?

What is 2bh, is that like text speak? Thats not funny you know.

i think there pathetic, we dont need to drive tvs do we, what do we need a license for, and id rather pay to watch adverts like go compare abnd the meercat, i love monkey and johnny vegas, so **** the bbc everything is ****........ how old is eastenders now they need to get somethig new... END OF

[andyman]

i think there pathetic, we dont need to drive tvs do we, what do we need a license for, and id rather pay to watch adverts like go compare abnd the meercat, i love monkey and johnny vegas, so **** the bbc everything is ****........ how old is eastenders now they need to get somethig new... END OFThis is way I am against laptops being used on ward 10.

[Shasown]

i think there pathetic, we dont need to drive tvs do we, what do we need a license for, and id rather pay to watch adverts like go compare abnd the meercat, i love monkey and johnny vegas, so **** the bbc everything is ****........ how old is eastenders now they need to get somethig new... END OF

Well then thats fine and dandy, pay your TV licence and they throw in the adverts on other sides for free. Dont pay your licence and they will fine your mum and dad.

If I was you I would concentrate on learning when to use their. there and they're when in English lessons instead of playing with yourself while drooling over Miss Rottencrotch's breasts and nylon clad legs at the back of the class.

[2010..BB]

This is way I am against laptops being used on ward 10.

thanks, im glad someone agrees with me. I dont think we should pay council tax either let alone a tv liscence.
I hope the bbc just gets taken over by the amercains or the other mexico mans

[andyman]

Oh dear.. My ward 10 post went over your head.. :(

[Shasown]

thanks, im glad someone agrees with me. I dont think we should pay council tax either let alone a tv liscence.
I hope the bbc just gets taken over by the amercains or the other mexico mans

pmsl

[2010..BB]

Oh dear.. My ward 10 post went over your head.. :(

i dont understand? award 10? i thought you gave me 10 out of 10 for that great comment?

[Shasown]

Whoooooosh

[2010..BB]

Can you fill me in on your little joke#?

[arista]

Who pays for that?


ITV1HD is Free on FreesatHD

ITV4HD is Free on Sky and Virgin,
and will soon be on FreesatHD
and soon on FreeviewHD.


And soon we get Ch5HD



So No Charge at all for HD

[2010..BB]

yeah because HD will be old by april i heard from the sunday sport that we will be wearing 3d glasses!!! sky have already set a 3d channel up SkyD its out in april

[Shasown]

yeah because HD will be old by april i heard from the sunday sport that we will be wearing 3d glasses!!! sky have already set a 3d channel up SkyD its out in april

Oh well of it was in the Sport, it must be true eh?

[2010..BB]

it is actually my uncle works for sky and he agreed

[arista]

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article7041944.ece

Back on topic The BBC
is to close radio 6, 7 and asian network.

Radio 7 to become Radio 4Extra.

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Feb/Week4/15560738.jpg

Saturdays Times
Now the staff of the Cut backs want to strike

[2010..BB]

But what im saying is that if there trying to save money then scrap bbc2,4, news and cbeebies. Keep bbc1, 3 and radio1. Do you agree?

[andyman]

Does arista want the BBC to be funded by ad revenue?

[arista]

Does arista want the BBC to be funded by ad revenue?


Stop Diverting
This thread is not about what I want
that has been done on here.

This thread is about The BBC Future.
Latest
Closing Radio 6 and 7 and the Asain Network Radio
and cutting back the website
is about the BBC Future.

[arista]

But what im saying is that if there trying to save money then scrap bbc2,4, news and cbeebies. Keep bbc1, 3 and radio1. Do you agree?
No.


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article7041944.ece

[2010..BB]

Well I do, scrap bbc asia and 1xtra. keep peoples because who will host the one show?

[bananarama]

The BBC is value for money.. Look at all the tv and radio channels you get, plus fantastic web and mobile phone support with bbc iplayer, the iplayer is now for mobile aswell.

Saying that the bbc is bloated is invalid, you need to argue the cause with more depth..


Agreed. All the TV channels. All the radio stations. The web......All for just a few pence a day......A little more than the cost of a trashy SUN newspaper

[Shasown]

Agreed. All the TV channels. All the radio stations. The web......All for just a few pence a day......A little more than the cost of a trashy SUN newspaper

Wow bananarama you really have the hots for the Sun today, Whats the matter, have they done an exposé on your sex life or something?

[Shasown]

For all the channels you get, radio, fantastic programs and free bbc iplayer, it is worth the small fee which can be paid over 12 months.. Plus British tv need need the BBC to be funded by the public, ITV would have to cut costs on a very large scale if arista's pro Murdock Sky empire dreams came true..

Yes and I am sure there are many hundreds of thousands of pensioners agree with you, not having access to all those extra TV channels and Radio stations.

They also love watching BBC I-player on computers they havent got.

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Cuts-Expected-In-BBC-Radio-Web-And-Imports-As-Director-General-Reveals-Strategic-Review/Article/201003115564650?lpos=Business_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15564650_Cuts_Expected_In_BBC_Radio%2C _Web_And_Imports_As_Director_General_Reveals_Strat egic_Review

The BBC confirmed BB6 and Asian Network to close
and Cut backs to the BBC web sites.


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article7046446.ece

[andyman]

Yes and I am sure there are many hundreds of thousands of pensioners agree with you, not having access to all those extra TV channels and Radio stations.

They also love watching BBC I-player on computers they havent got.So only pensioners watch the BBC?

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Cuts-Expected-In-BBC-Radio-Web-And-Imports-As-Director-General-Reveals-Strategic-Review/Article/201003115564650?lpos=Business_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15564650_Cuts_Expected_In_BBC_Radio%2C _Web_And_Imports_As_Director_General_Reveals_Strat egic_Review

The BBC confirmed BB6 and Asian Network to close
and Cut backs to the BBC web sites.


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article7046446.ece

I hope SKy follow suit and start cutting back their bloated crap service?

[arista]

I hope SKy follow suit and start cutting back their bloated crap service?


No
in April a New Sky Channel
3-D HD Sky channel.

Bliss.

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article7041944.ece

Back on topic The BBC
is to close radio 6, 7 and asian network.

Radio 7 to become Radio 4Extra.

what about 1extra surely that must go and R4 as it is just for England only?

[arista]

what about 1extra surely that must go and R4 as it is just for England only?



No Radio 1 Extra
Not on the Cards.



'Switch' BBC Site
is to Close.



a Radio4 Extra is.


The CEO keeps saying this is not Cut Backs
as the money saved from Closing thise 2 Digital stations
will make BBC2 a better Comedy Channel
and BBC4 more Arts


But some will no have a job there
so Unions call this Political Cut backs.

[andyman]

Ahhh.. I see now, arista hates the BBC but loves SKY and is happy for SKY to be greedy twats..

Arista the anti-BBC troll.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ahhh.. I see now, arista hates the BBC but loves SKY and is happy for SKY to be greedy twats..

Arista the anti-BBC troll.

is correct

[arista]

Ahhh.. I see now, arista hates the BBC but loves SKY

Arista the anti-BBC troll.



Not Correct Is use the BBC every day
I am paying for it.


Correct I will love Sky 3-D HD channel
in April.
That is Ground Breaking


Ch4 News at 7PM is second to none
even got Exclusive Live to Iran.


France24 News in english is a great channel
with full UK reviews.

PressTVNews and Al Jazeera English News 24 is great


There is so much great stuff out there
with Sky ,Ch4, ITV1 , BBC, Dave, Ch5
and the BBC will improve Quality after these stations close
so it is a good move forward.

[2010..BB]

No
in April a New Sky Channel
3-D HD Sky channel.

Bliss.

you copied that from me its called skyD and i made it up so in april yout going to look stupid for copying what you thought was a good idea of mine but i was lying HAHAHAHAAA moron

[arista]

you copied that from me its called skyD and i made it up so in april yout going to look stupid for copying what you thought was a good idea of mine but i was lying HAHAHAHAAA moron



Very Wrong
It is in my T3 Mag that arrived today. (T3 April Mag) (Page 81)
Confirmed Sky 3-D arrives April
Fact.

I would never get info from a Very Young poster.


If you wish to stay on this Forum
Do Not Call Posters 'Moron'

[arista]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1321681/BBC-ordered-pick-500m-cost-free-TV-licences-75s.html

BBC ordered to pick up £500m cost of free
TV licences for the over-75s... but corporation
says fee could go up by £20 for everyone else

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1321681/BBC-ordered-pick-500m-cost-free-TV-licences-75s.html#ixzz12naf5dYT

Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt has suggested the
licence fee should be reduced in 2012 - yes bring that on.


The Bloated BBC has a Fight on it hands.

Bring it on.

[arista]

S4c and the BBC World Service
are to be funded by Public money.

S4c is not BBC
but it appears as they are bankrupt - they soon will be under the BBC control
to keep them alive.


The BBC Licence Fee is to be Frozen at the curent £145 rate for the next 6 years


Sources : SkyNewsHD and BBCNews

[arista]

Poxy Welsh

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/20/s4c-bbc-spending-review

Not happy about the BBC take over of S4c
they are lucky
if this was not done it would have closed for good.

[arista]

BBC News just reported
that another Strike Vote is being taken by the NUJ ,

We can get by without BBC News
thanks to SkyNewsHD, France24, CNN, Ch4 News , ITVNews
LBC and loads more.

But if they do strike over a Pension problem
I demand a Refund
as I fund those Bloated Feckers.

[arista]

The NUJ BBC Strikes are the 5-6 Nov and 15-16 Nov.

Now Confirmed
on SkyNewsHD and BBC News.


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2010/10/12/1286903791805/BBC-strike-006.jpg

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/28/bbc-strike-nuj-christmas


And to Strike at Xmas.

[arista]

The BBC NUJ is now on Strike

So BBC News Ch is showing Repeats
when it sould be BBCAmerica show.
And the Same for Radio5.


SkyNews, of course , is not effected.

[Zippy]

Poxy Welsh



:joker:

I don't watch the BBC or have to buy a licence so I couldnt care less if they scrapped it altogether.

Outdated institution thats needs a radical overhaul. Outrageous forcing people to still buy a licence when there's about 178 other TV channels and tons of radio stations to choose!

[arista]

BBC strike action hits news programmes as main bulletins cut to ten minutes

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326834/BBC-strike-action-hits-news-programmes-main-bulletins-cut-minutes.html#ixzz14OkR2lqp

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/nov/04/bbc-news-blackout-strike-pensions



Sign Of The Times.

[Novo]

Andyman has torn Arista apart in this thread

[arista]

Andyman has torn Arista apart in this thread


He is no longer here.

The BBC NUJ News Strike will keep going over Xmas.

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2010/11/5/1288963494609/Emma-Crosby-005.jpg
Former SkyNews Business Reporter and Former GMTV Reporter
becomes the 48 hour Strike SexyScab.

This early morning though BBC used a Manager called Gavin to do the broadcast.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/nov/05/bbc-strike-helen-boaden

[arista]

The 6:30PM BBC Local News
was just 5 mins long
some used weather forcasters.(not NUJ members)

Now for 20mins they are doing a Weather Show.

Radio 4 and 5 are doing Pre -Recorded older shows


Sign Of The Times

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/05/article-1327003-0BECB0B8000005DC-811_634x422.jpg
All out: Newsnight economics editor Paul Mason, left,
confronts BBC Deputy Director General Mark Byford
on the picket line outside BBC Television Centre this morning

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1327003/BBC-Strike-Former-GMTV-presenter-Emma-Crosby-breaks-BBC-strike.html#ixzz14R8JUfUw

[James]

There was no new Kermode/Mayo film show today, only a repeat, which was a bit of a disappointment.

[arista]

There was no new Kermode/Mayo film show today, only a repeat, which was a bit of a disappointment.


Yes that is a big loss on Radio5 afternoon 2PM slot,
I agree.

Mark wanted to cross the picket lines
but Simon would not.


The Problem is more of these strikes are Due
so I think they should move there show to non strike days.
It can be done.

[Tom]

Emma Crosby is fit, was watching her on News at One instead of Loose Women on my work break

Was good to see her back on TV, not seen her since GMTV

[arista]

Yes Tom
Emma is Cool.

[James]

Yes that is a big loss on Radio5 afternoon 2PM slot,
I agree.

Mark wanted to cross the picket lines
but Simon would not.


The Problem is more of these strikes are Due
so I think they should move there show to non strike days.
It can be done.

Where did you read that? :hugesmile:

[arista]

I think I heard it on LBC Radio
today.


I just hope on the next Strike
they move there show to the day before.

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2010/Nov/Week1/15795955.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/bbc-chief-faces-crisis-of-confidence-2126707.html


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/this-isnt-the-today-programme-bbc-silenced-by-strike-2125743.html

Sign Of The Times

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/07/article-1327358-0BF23107000005DC-779_634x311_popup.jpg

[BB_Eye]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/07/article-1327358-0BF23107000005DC-779_634x311_popup.jpg
LOL, this is so funny. Serves them right.

[Tom]

I would actually laugh if Emma Crosby got a job on BBC Breakfast

ITV screwed up by not giving her Katie Derham's job on ITV London and Lunchtime News

[arista]

"BBC strike: Mark Thompson refuses new negotiations with NUJ
The BBC's director general has downplayed last week's strike and
says there will be no 'fresh negotiations' with the union"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/nov/08/bbc-strike-mark-thompson-nuj


So more Stikes
and Xmas Strikes.

Sign Of The Times

[arista]

BBC News heading for strike over compulsory redundancies


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/05/bbc-faces-strike-compulsory-redundancies


If they Strike
I want a Refund.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/12/article-2014105-0CDB113900000578-895_468x374_popup.jpg




Cut there Wages back more
its our fecking money you Bloated BBC.

[Livia]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/12/article-2014105-0CDB113900000578-895_468x374_popup.jpg

Cut there Wages back more
its our fecking money you Bloated BBC.

Nine men and only two women. Things haven't moved on much, have they.

Is there anyone in the world who likes Chris Moyles? I'd be interested to know, because I've never met anyone who has anything but contempt for him.

[Jack_]

Is there anyone in the world who likes Chris Moyles? I'd be interested to know, because I've never met anyone who has anything but contempt for him.

:xyxwave:

[arista]

Today some BBC staff are on Strike.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/14/article-2014871-0BF6003B00000578-119_233x423.jpg
Supporter: Presenters and journalists such as Nicky Campbell, Robert Peston and Kate Silverton are expected to back the strike

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2014871/BBC-news-services-face-disruption-staff-walk-job-cuts.html#ixzz1S9UfJI9s


"BBC strike disrupts news programmes
BBC1's Breakfast off air, Today on Radio 4 runs documentary and regular 5 Live Breakfast hosts replaced"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/15/bbc-strike-news

[joeysteele]

[QUOTE=arista;4375918]Today some BBC staff are on Strike.

They can for me, the BBC is miles away from the great presentation it used to be.

I also don't like Chris Moyles Livia, never have.

I also wish the BBC was forced to wake up as to its future,while it does still do most sporting events to near perfection, and is really good on documentaries,it has faded massively from its past glory days.

I wish some political party would take on board a policy to at last get rid of the, what I have heard termed,dinosaur tax, as to the licence fee.
When the time comes for me to leave home after Uni,I will begrudge every single penny I have to spend on the daft TV licence, in this day and age in this Country it is ridiculous that all households have to buy a TV Licence for the privilege of having a TV,simply because of the BBC.

Scrap it, force the BBC to live in the real World for a change.

[arista]

Local News in the UK at 6:28PM is reduced to 5Mins
on BBC due to the BBCNews strikes

The same 5mins after the 10PM News
as well

Sky EPG tells you
Virgin EPG sadly does not get fast updates.

[Harry!]

I love The BBC News Channel but it is so boring today :(. I felt like turing off after 15 mins :(.

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2011/7/15/1310737542964/Journalists-strike-at-BBC-007.jpg

And no Newsnight.

[michael21]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2011/7/15/1310737542964/Journalists-strike-at-BBC-007.jpg

And no Newsnight.

This is good news

[michael21]

Local News in the UK at 6:28PM is reduced to 5Mins
on BBC due to the BBCNews strikes

The same 5mins after the 10PM News
as well

Sky EPG tells you
Virgin EPG sadly does not get fast updates.

:nono: you watch channel 5 news

[arista]

you watch channel 5 news


I watch many News
many debates
but the Bloated BBC went on Strike.

[michael21]

I watch many News
many debates
but the Bloated BBC went on Strike.


:laugh3:

[arista]

BBC journalists plan work to rule
An indefinite work to rule among BBC journalists will begin after another 24-hour strike on Monday


Another Strike

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/26/bbc-journalists-work-to-rule


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2011/7/26/1311681899367/BBC-strike-007.jpg

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/7/31/1312120641784/BBC-Journalists-Strike-Ov-007.jpg

BBCNews Strike Tomorrow
Monday 1st of August

[arista]

As with the Last strike
all BBC Local News is only on for 4mins or so.
so 6:28PM - 6:34PM etc.

Although a Couple have BBC Managers
doing the full 26 mins


No BBC2 Newsnight

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2011/8/1/1312207494002/Journalists-strike-at-BBC-007.jpg

[arista]

http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Oct/Week1/16084331.jpg


The BBC Union says strikes are on the way.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/06/bbc-cuts-2000-jobs


Sign Of The Times

[arista]

BBC director general Mark Thompson
has been accused of showing "complete and utter contempt" after he told BBC staff members who face possible redundancy: "No one is forcing you to stay."

from here
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/14/bbc-director-general-mark-thompson




Times Are Hard
he is telling them to take the cuts or leave.



Sign Of The Times

[arista]

My old thread
More Cutbacks at the BBC to come.


Ref : for Kate who posted this on her thread

What do you think of the BBC?
What are your opinions on the good old BBC? Happy with them? Or do you, like me, think they should be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age? Given a metaphorical boot up the backside?

Major crime number 1: The TV Licence. It's outdated and ridiculous, should have been abolished long since, only they seem to think they are too highbrow for adverts, which would bring in so much more revenue as well. I refuse to pay it, never have, and never will if I have my way.

Another massive faux pas they have made recently is The Voice. I was excited for this, but they've made a complete bollocks of the whole thing. The voting system is a shambles, and thus there is no excitement, no vibe for the results at all, as by the time they are broadcast we've already known the results for almost 24 hours. SMH. Plus by only opening votelines for less than an hour they are missing the chance of making loads of revenue. Fools.

Thoughts?

[Kizzy]

You know my thoughts......

[Pyramid*]

My old thread
More Cutbacks at the BBC to come.


Ref : for Kate who posted this on her thread

What do you think of the BBC?
What are your opinions on the good old BBC? Happy with them? Or do you, like me, think they should be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age? Given a metaphorical boot up the backside?

Major crime number 1: The TV Licence. It's outdated and ridiculous, should have been abolished long since, only they seem to think they are too highbrow for adverts, which would bring in so much more revenue as well. I refuse to pay it, never have, and never will if I have my way.

Another massive faux pas they have made recently is The Voice. I was excited for this, but they've made a complete bollocks of the whole thing. The voting system is a shambles, and thus there is no excitement, no vibe for the results at all, as by the time they are broadcast we've already known the results for almost 24 hours. SMH. Plus by only opening votelines for less than an hour they are missing the chance of making loads of revenue. Fools.

Thoughts?


My thoughts are that since this thread was raised almost 3 years ago, though added to occasionally last year is: despite many wanting it changed...... things remain as they were.

Unchanged. The remainder of my thoughts are on Kate's thread. As for staff cuts: tough: it's happening everywhere, don't see why it makes any difference the name of the company.... times, are as they say: hard.

[joeysteele]

Well, arista I am with Kate near all the way in her comments,I know you dislike the licence fee with as much passion as I do, I have said a lot on the subject yesterday but the one reality is that the current agreement as to the BBC and the licence fee is contracted until 2016 so no change is possible before then likely.

That's at least another 4 years of this accursed tax,which it is seen as, but I hope that some political party will include in their manifesto the aim to change the funding of the BBC and aim to abolish the licence at the next election,(the votes would roll in for the party that does that).

The BBC does some good programming but there should not have to be any compulsion now to have to pay to watch the BBC,their proportion of channels as to all channels available in the UK is now very small and despite their better programmes,in my view,there is no reason at all why they should receive public funding for their transmissions.

Earn their income like most other companies do and not get funded by an ever increasing fee like this,it is outdated and ridiculous, (even though they have agreed to a temporary freeze on the licence as to increasing it), at £145.50 it is time it was abolished.

[arista]

"fee like this,it is outdated and ridiculous,"


Yes welll outdated
and the BBC bosses
know that.

[Jesus.]

I like the cut of Andymans jib. He should return. He'd probably end up banned pretty quickly these days, though.

[arista]

I like the cut of Andymans jib. He should return. He'd probably end up banned pretty quickly these days, though.

Sadly he
has passed away.

[Jesus.]

Sadly he
has passed away.

Seriously? Oh wow.

[arista]

Seriously? Oh wow.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185742

[Jesus.]

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185742

Thanks for link. Pity I never got to know him, I think we would have got along.

[arista]

"The 148 BBC stars avoiding tax: MPs attack 'immoral' tactics of presenters who reduce their tax bills by being paid through private companies
The BBC employs the TV and radio presenters through ‘personal service companies’ that allow them to minimise contributions to the Exchequer
The deals also allow the corporation to sidestep millions of pounds in national insurance
Six top BBC presenters earned at least £1million last year
16 of its 'top talent' earned at least £500,000"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174268/The-148-BBC-stars-avoiding-tax-MPs-attack-immoral-tactics-presenters-reduce-tax-bills-paid-private-companies.html#ixzz20r8BOX4m

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2012/7/16/181321/default/v1/mail-for-scoop-1-329x437.jpg


Full Stinking Circle.

[arista]

BBC tells stars to dodge tax: Workers face the ultimatum, go off the books or face the sack

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177433/BBC-tells-stars-dodge-tax-Workers-face-ultimatum-books-face-sack.html#ixzz21RLXpSu1


[The BBC has told thousands of workers to go
‘off the books’ to cut its tax bill.
Whistle-blowers claim stars are routinely ordered
to set up personal service companies, or face the sack.]




This Stinks

[arista]

BBC Cowboy Trap presenter Clive Holland sacked for 'inappropriate' behaviour towards woman he met on show

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265380/BBC-Cowboy-Trap-presenter-Clive-Holland-sacked-inappropriate-behaviour-woman-met-show.html#ixzz2IYrZgIuh

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/20/article-2265380-09FE3915000005DC-58_306x645.jpg

Following an investigation Mentorn Media immediately removed him from filming and all his contracts with the BBC were terminated.'

[Maia]

No Clive!!!!!!!!

[arista]

The BBC froze me out because I don't believe in global warming:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/22/article-2266188-16FD9489000005DC-715_634x436.jpg

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266188/David-Bellamy-The-BBC-froze-I-dont-believe-global-warming.html#ixzz2IhsICxZ5

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/22/article-2266188-17146ACD000005DC-806_306x474.jpg
Now 80, Bellamy says of his broadcasting peer
David Attenborough: He's a natural history man
and I'm a campaigner, we're different.'


Poxy BBC

[arista]

A More Simple Way
show that Episode after 9PM

"Don't mention the ***: Censorship
row as BBC cuts the Major's 'racist' lines
from classic Fawlty Towers episode
Viewers complain that only the 'terminally thin-skinned' could
be offended by the character
BBC said it was edited to suit a family
audience to reflect changing attitudes"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2266738/Censorship-row-BBC-cuts-racist-lines-classic-Fawlty-Towers-episode.html#ixzz2ItVw7GCV


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/22/article-2266738-1718530F000005DC-93_306x423.jpg
"Ballard Berkeley as the Major Gowen,
who makes the offensive remark. Viewers said
that the 'bigoted character' was meant to be laughed at - not with"



BBC Re-Writes History --- George Orwell is Born Again

[arista]

"BBC staff to strike over redundancies
NUJ members across the country start
work-to-rule protest on Friday with one-day
walkout to take place on Monday


BBC journalists will go on strike on Monday,
after beginning a work-to-rule on Friday,
in a dispute over compulsory redundancies,
the National Union of Journalists (NUJ)
has announced.
NUJ members across the country at the BBC voted
for industrial action unless the corporation
agrees to end compulsory redundancies
and redeploy at-risk staff internally.
Hundreds of journalists will start a
work-to-rule protest from Friday, 15 February,
over the cost-cutting measures,
which are part of the BBC's
Delivering Quality First strategy.
A one-day strike in protest at
compulsory redundancies is due
to follow on Monday, 18 February.

The walkout on 18 February could hit the
BBC's coverage of Scottish parliament
and the Welsh Assembly, which both return
from recess that day. It is also the date of the
Armenian presidential election.
A number of posts have been identified
as being at risk by the end of March,
including jobs in the national news division,
BBC Scotland, and BBC Radio 5 Live."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/feb/11/bbc-staff-strike-redundancies-nuj

[arista]

Yes the BBC News readers are on strike.
shorter broadcasts today
and some like Radio 4 today show removed

[arista]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Media/Pix/pictures/2013/2/18/1361176932443/Radio-4-Today-John-Humphr-008.jpg
BBC strike: Radio 4 Today, which was due
to be hosted by John Humphrys and Evan Davis,
was replaced by repeats

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/feb/18/bbc-strike-radio-4-today

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/18/article-2280373-17A70BFB000005DC-796_634x397.jpg
Anger: Staff on the picket line outside
BBC Birmingham are some of many
protesting outside offices nationwide today

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280373/Flagship-BBC-news-programmes-air-journalists-stage-walkout-job-cuts.html#ixzz2LFQ0moQD

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9876734/BBC-strike-hits-flagship-TV-and-radio-news-programmes.html

[arista]

"Michelle Stanistreet, the general secretary of the National Union of Journalists, said the strike sent a "really significant" message to BBC managers about union members' opposition to planned compulsory redundancies."

But Michelle the BBC is happy to use Producers as Presenters
you are living in the past , honey

Latest
no newsnight
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2013/feb/18/bbc-strike-live-coverage

[arista]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/mar/20/bbc-easter-strike-actuion-nuj-bectu

More Strikes next week

"The BBC is facing an Easter blackout after
journalists voted on Wednesday to go on strike
over job cuts, excessive workloads and claims of bullying.
The date of the strike has not been announced,
but the National Union of Journalists (NUJ)
said it was expected to be at Easter.
It follows a 24-hour strike on 18 February
when presenters, including BBC Radio 6
Music's Lauren Laverne, refused to cross the picket line.
Members of the BBC's two biggest unions,
Bectu and the NUJ, backed the strike.
The NUJ said 61.2% of its members voted
for the walkout, and 79.9% for action short of a strike.
The dispute is over the BBC's cost-cutting programme,
which is part of its Delivering Quality First strategy.
Michelle Stanistreet, general secretary of the NUJ,
said the cuts were harming
quality journalism at the corporation."

[joeysteele]

Had to grin at 'quality first strategy'.Can't say I have noticed much of that.
I couldn't care one bit, I really only watch sky news anyway. Any chance though of a reduction in the licence fee if they are not able to effectively report like other channels can.

[Livia]

I don't watch the BBC much anymore. Never thought I'd hear myself say that. I'm appalled at the amount of money they spent moving everything up to Salford when they had the iconic, historic Television Centre in West London. It would have cost a fraction of our money to update the building... but no. They moved everything and everyone to massively expensive purpose-built premises in Manchester and closed Television Centre. I guess Broadcasting House will be next. Shame on them. I want my money back.

[Nedusa]

I also do not watch much TV these days and when I do it's usually recorded from any of the Channels incl Sky so I can avoid the Adverts. The importance of the BBC for me has diminished over the last 20 years as other TV companies subcontract program making to smaller production companies who can make quality programmes easily on par with the BBC. Also the large influx of quality programmes from the US has raised the bar in programme making across the board which has further reduced the claims that the BBC is at the forefront of Television.

It is not, it is an outdated,overweight, overfunded, left wing liberal state owned mouthpiece which reports the news and delivers programmes that it thinks we should see not what we actually want to see. Being able to still charge a licence fee is in itself unbelievably undemocratic and should be resisted by all until this stupid law is changed.

To be fair in its day the BBC was a global leader and paved the way for all who followed, but the world has changed what with TV & Radio available on Cable,Satellite,Internet etc.. and specific Films,Music & TV Programmes available 24/7 in HD from specialist companies, the days of one large state owned Corporation are well and truly numbered.

So yes please stop making me pay for the privilege of watching the BBC, let the BBC fight for revenue like everyone else, then it might realise a lot of its output is tosh and it might streamline its programmes and compete for market share like everyone else.

[joeysteele]

I also do not watch much TV these days and when I do it's usually recorded from any of the Channels incl Sky so I can avoid the Adverts. The importance of the BBC for me has diminished over the last 20 years as other TV companies subcontract program making to smaller production companies who can make quality programmes easily on par with the BBC. Also the large influx of quality programmes from the US has raised the bar in programme making across the board which has further reduced the claims that the BBC is at the forefront of Television.

It is not, it is an outdated,overweight, overfunded, left wing liberal state owned mouthpiece which reports the news and delivers programmes that it thinks we should see not what we actually want to see. Being able to still charge a licence fee is in itself unbelievably undemocratic and should be resisted by all until this stupid law is changed.

To be fair in its day the BBC was a global leader and paved the way for all who followed, but the world has changed what with TV & Radio available on Cable,Satellite,Internet etc.. and specific Films,Music & TV Programmes available 24/7 in HD from specialist companies, the days of one large state owned Corporation are well and truly numbered.

So yes please stop making me pay for the privilege of watching the BBC, let the BBC fight for revenue like everyone else, then it might realise a lot of its output is tosh and it might streamline its programmes and compete for market share like everyone else.

Excellent post,I agree with every single word.

[Livia]

I also do not watch much TV these days and when I do it's usually recorded from any of the Channels incl Sky so I can avoid the Adverts. The importance of the BBC for me has diminished over the last 20 years... etc. etc. etc.

We don't always agree, do we. But when I do agree with you, it's 100%.

[arista]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/mar/27/bbc-schedules-disruption-strike-action-thursday


Yet another BBCNews strike today

BBC staff strike over workload, jobs and bullying
Newsnight and Radio 4’s World at 1 and PM have been taken off the air today as BBC journalists and technical staff strike in a row over jobs, workload and claims of bullying.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9958481/BBC-staff-strike-over-workload-jobs-and-bullying.html

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2013/9/7/258017/default/v1/the-sunday-times-front-page-1-329x437.jpg

The BBC is under fire for handing out nearly £25Million
to 150 departing bosses between 2009 and 2012.
Incredibly, more than
£1.9million of that was more than
their contracts demanded.
Mr Thompson — who left the BBC last year to head
up the New York Times — sensationally accused
Lord Patten and BBC Trustee Anthony Fry
of misleading Parliament.
In written evidence to the
Public Accounts Committee,
he said: “The insinuation that they
were kept in the dark
by me or anyone else is false.”
He claimed they had been “fully briefed”
about pay-offs
of nearly £1million to ex-deputy director
general Mark Byford
and almost £400,000 to ex-marketing
head Sharon Baylay.
Lord Patten told the PAC in July that
he was “shocked” at the
pay-offs. But yesterday he said
he had “no concerns” about
Mr Thompson’s claims.
A BBC Trust spokesman branded
Mr Thompson’s evidence
as “bizarre”. Ms Adams, who quits
the BBC next year, told MPs
in July she had NOT seen a note
detailing plans for pay-offs
to Mr Byford and Ms Baylay.
Yesterday she confessed
she helped write it.
Mr Wilson said
anyone who has misled Parliament should resign
immediately or be sacked. He added:
“It’s not altogether surprising
that Mark Thompson and Chris Patten
are fighting like ferrets in a sack.” ]


from the sun+ online

[Nemo123]

They should ban Sky and all private broadcasting. Sky gouges its customers, you have only to look at how much money they make, for the same or less service. Nationalisation is always the best deal for the customer, because you remove the profit motive.

[arista]

Ex - BBC Boss Thompson is Live on all media now
spilling the beans


http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2013/9/9/258280/default/v1/i-1-329x437.jpg

[arista]

[The BBC is an executive-run place
for idiots': Jennifer Saunders hits
out at 'unrecognisable' corporation]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2449389/BBC-executive-run-place-idiots-says-Jennifer-Saunders.html#ixzz2h7s44Rqd


"The Absolutely Fabulous writer
spoke out in a Glamour magazine interview
The 55-year-old criticised one former
director general for his lavish lunches
She also hit out at the BBC's new
northern home in Salford Quays"


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/08/article-0-0D33E3CA00000578-364_306x423.jpg
yes let it all out

[arista]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2477192/BBC-staff-revolt-freelance-deals-axed-tax-row-Corporation-phase-contracts-allow-workers-taxed-companies-individuals.html#ixzz2ipLXFd9p

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/25/article-0-0D8823B300000578-881_634x406.jpg
[MPs accused the BBC of having 'staggeringly
inappropriate' arrangements in place for
many employees and said it could be
[B]'complicit' in tax avoidance]


Come on BBC stop this Corruption.

[Samm]

For ******* sake it's only a tv channel

[arista]

For ******* sake it's only a tv channel

Wrong its our BBC
paid for with Public Tax.


We Fund it all - you fool

[Samm]

Wrong its our BBC
paid for with Public Tax.


We Fund it all - you fool

Well that's there problem. and btw I am not a fool

[arista]

Well that's there problem. and btw I am not a fool


OK
but you must understand
we the Adult public are forced to pay the BBC TV tax.


So its Correct that MP's check their own
BBC Tax Affairs

[arista]

Michael Grade calls for smaller BBC

[Michael Grade has said the BBC
has become "unmanageable"
and called on licence fee money
to be used to fund Channel 4.
The former BBC chairman and
chief executive of Channel 4 told
MPs on Tuesday there should be
a radical shake-up of both broadcasters,
with a smaller BBC – including the
merger of BBC2 and BBC4 – and a publicly-funded
Channel 4, which he said was commercially "unsustainable".
"Where the BBC fails is in its management.
It has become virtually unmanageable," said Grade.
"It tries to do everything itself. It is now into property,
the post-production business, it's into everything
and has become far too big in areas it
doesn't need to be in."
Such is the scale of the role of the
director general, Grade said,
"there was no person on earth who can do the job successfully.]


http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/2/11/1392129684053/Michael-Grade--008.jpg

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/11/michael-grade-bbc-channel-4


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/bbc-should-only-produce-news-says-former-chairman-lord-grade-9122370.html

[Jesus.]

Andyman absolutely handing Arista his arse at the start of this thread.

http://i.imgur.com/6SCAgkk.gif

[arista]

Andyman absolutely handing Arista his arse at the start of this thread.

http://i.imgur.com/6SCAgkk.gif


Sadly he is no longer with us.


And that has nothing to do with
the Current Michael Grade Post.

[Jesus.]

Sadly he is no longer with us.


And that has nothing to do with
the Current Michael Grade Post.

I remember you saying before that he had passed away. Seemed like a really good poster, and reading his exchange with you highlights this.

What would you like to happen with the BBC Arista?

Please give me your proper opinion.

[arista]

I remember you saying before that he had passed away. Seemed like a really good poster, and reading his exchange with you highlights this.

What would you like to happen with the BBC Arista?

Please give me your proper opinion.



Stop taking money from the public,
they have enough to stand on.
So you would have Eastenders sponsored by
Morrisons , for example

[Jesus.]

Stop taking money from the public,
they have enough to stand on.
So you would have Eastenders sponsored by
Morrisons , for example

I always believed that we shouldn't touch the BBC at all, but I'm changing that slightly. I think we should still have licence fees, but reduced, and to cover educational programming only, because we still make some of the best documentaries in the world, and we do it consistently better than everyone else. It's also for the benefit of everyone.

I agree that we shouldn't be paying for soaps and all that dross.

[arista]

I always believed that we shouldn't touch the BBC at all, but I'm changing that slightly. I think we should still have licence fees, but reduced, and to cover educational programming only, because we still make some of the best documentaries in the world, and we do it consistently better than everyone else. It's also for the benefit of everyone.

I agree that we shouldn't be paying for soaps and all that dross.


thats something

[jackc1806]

I think the BBC is brilliant. It has made some catastrophic mistakes but reducing it or stopping public funding would ruin it.

[Marsh.]

For ******* sake it's only a tv channel

:laugh2:

[HD]

You do hate the truth Arista..

Arista is just some 80s fax machine..

The BBC is not going to change, Arista needs to change or he will end up in some Afgan fax machine repair shop.

:laugh3:

[the truth]

id be delighted to see the useless bloated failiure wiped out

[smeagol]

cant stand the bbc corrupt money evil grabbers who think they are above everybody, outdated and run by posh old fagans . the tv licence is criminal and its all down to the bbc, i hope one day they along with their tax cease to exist .

[the truth]

the whole thing needs to be ripped up root and branch....theres no opportunity, its a total closed shop, the output for the money invested is pitiful? how many world class shows in the past decade compared to hbo or many other tv networks? the news is one of the worst on tv, the endless cover ups, the infinite waste, the shocking pay offs, the total disregard for tax payers money....comedy alone has become a little elitist qungo for public school kids. i barely find any of the posh people funny. michael mcintyre? really

[Kizzy]

The BBC is to be privatised, it's going though parliament now.

[arista]

On the Daily Politics today
both Conservative and LibDem MP's
both said the BBC must take away its Poll Tax.

Only the Labour Woman wanted it to stay as it is.

The Funding Model of the BBC
has to change
it's Tax Fee they demand from us Public
must stay Frozen until they change it.

2020
is the date they want this Terrible Value Tax Stopped


Also many viewers should be able pay to BBC for Viewing in Europe
they want to watch the BBC and will pay the BBC ,
the stupid BBC is missing that right now.


The LibDem MP
said it wrong people are paying the tax
while some people at home watch BBC Free online
thats no way to carry on.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/5/11/391537/default/v1/1001ic-dtndt-1-120515-a001c-dt-1-720x960.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/5/11/391545/default/v1/the-times-1-720x960.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/5/11/391546/default/v1/the-independent-1-720x960.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/5/11/391548/default/v1/i-newspaper-1-720x960.jpg

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/5/11/391535/default/v1/metro-p1-may-12-1-1-720x960.jpg



In this Day and Age
what we pay for is not worthy
The BBC must Stand Alone more

[Mokka]

Sounds like you have become Canada

Harper did the same thing once he took gov't here for the tories

CBC has been unwatchable since imo

[arista]

BBC plans to send 200 staff for 'scaled back' coverage of Lib Dem conference - that's 25 times the number of MPs

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3147347/BBC-plans-send-200-staff-scaled-coverage-Lib-Dem-conference-s-25-times-number-MPs.html#ixzz3f0OdTVe4


10 staff is more than enough for the LibDem Conference


What the Fecking Hell is 200 going there?




Also today in the Sunday Times
the BBC should now pay for the over 75 Free License Fee


And a Charge for the BBC iplayer is due

[user104658]

BBC plans to send 200 staff for 'scaled back' coverage of Lib Dem conference - that's 25 times the number of MPs

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3147347/BBC-plans-send-200-staff-scaled-coverage-Lib-Dem-conference-s-25-times-number-MPs.html#ixzz3f0OdTVe4


10 staff is more than enough for the LibDem Conference


What the Fecking Hell is 200 going there?




Also today in the Sunday Times
the BBC should now pay for the over 75 Free License Fee


And a Charge for the BBC iplayer is due
No one is going to pay for iPlayer :joker:. Netflix it is not.

[arista]

No one is going to pay for iPlayer :joker:. Netflix it is not.


Oversea folks who use iplayer will pay

[Pete.]

iPlayer should not be charged as it's part of our licence fee

[arista]

iPlayer should not be charged as it's part of our licence fee


If you are in USA or Europe
for example to use BBC iplayer
you will pay

[bots]

iplayer is not available to anyone outside the uk for copyright reasons, so that idea doesn't fly either

[arista]

iplayer is not available to anyone outside the uk for copyright reasons, so that idea doesn't fly either


Correct


But International iplayer
is on its way

The BBC has a massive Vault they can sell Worldwide


Its in todays papers

[arista]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14322604


Initially, global iPlayer will be available in 11 European countries: Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg, The Republic of Ireland, The Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and Switzerland.

It will cost 6.99 euro per month (£6.14), with the option of an annual subscription priced at 49.99 euro (£44).


Fact

[arista]

http://payload144.cargocollective.com/1/1/44147/5199534/648_bbc_3_1.png

[bots]

that will screw up the income they receive from oversees networks though, so who knows if its a good idea or not

[JoshBB]

I do think that the way they organise some things are pretty dumb, like the libdem conference as you mentioned having 200 staff sent there, but overall the BBC is a good idea because i'd much rather that than a news station taking it's place that only serves the needs of big corporations. That is when we truly lose democracy, they're not going to give us non-partisan coverage.

[Ross.]

Yas Mokka getting that British tv coverage in Canada :worship:

[arista]

Tony Hall the CEO of the BBC
confirmed Live on Radio 5
that if you Use the BBC even not live
you should pay something.



Never mind The Conservatives
The CEO of the BBC
is after posters like Kizzy.


http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/D047/production/_84091335_84091334.jpg


Typical of the BBC
this link does not cover what he just said Live on BBC Radio5
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33418552

[Northern Monkey]

We should have a choice if we want the BBC tbh.I'd get rid of it from my home happily.I pay enough for TV.

[arista]

We should have a choice if we want the BBC tbh.I'd get rid of it from my home happily.I pay enough for TV.


No

Not yet

[arista]

On Ch5HD
this morning Former Ch5 owner Richard Desmond
says the BBC should Not charge everyone
£150.00 a year

[Kizzy]

Tony Hall the CEO of the BBC
confirmed Live on Radio 5
that if you Use the BBC even not live
you should pay something.



Never mind The Conservatives
The CEO of the BBC
is after posters like Kizzy.


http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/D047/production/_84091335_84091334.jpg


Typical of the BBC
this link does not cover what he just said Live on BBC Radio5
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33418552

Posters like me?....

[arista]

Yes any that think they can avoid the BBC Tax

[Kizzy]

Yes any that think they can avoid the BBC Tax

Can you not use my name in your examples please?
I have in the past avoided it, I no longer do.

[arista]

OK
sorry Kizzy

[the truth]

the bbc is a joke now. a VERY expensive wasteful joke with ever declining productions and a phenomenal liberal bias in their news. the bt monopoly are taking over sports, the documentaries are better on most other networks, the class situation comedies stopped being made decaads ago, there are no opportunities for writers either and the middle management is almost as overblown and wasteful as the nhs. it really is crap.

[arista]

'I'm Not Anti-BBC', Culture Secretary Insists

[On the funding of the BBC,
he told MPs a subscription
model for paying for the BBC
"could well be an option in
the longer term" but the
technology was not yet
widely available in homes.
As a result, the review would consider
three options for reformed
funding methods, including
in a reformed licence fee,
a household levy, or a hybrid model.
The Secretary of State also said
a report had found the
decriminalisation of licence
fee evasion would not be
appropriate under the current system,
but it would be considered as part
of the charter review.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1520080/im-not-anti-bbc-culture-secretary-insists


Green Paper Day

They want the BBC Trust Gone , as well

[arista]

Live in Parliament soon
the BBC Trust to be abolished

http://news.sky.com/story/1694545/bbc-future-shows-and-salaries-in-spotlight

[joeysteele]

the Licence to go on for a likely another 11 years is predicted too.
Doesn't sound much of a anything promising coming from this today.

[Kizzy]

So the BBC is to become a governmental mouthpeice, as I predicted? :idc:

[Livia]

Something else the government is going to fiddle with and ruin.

[bots]

I think the BBC should adopt the North Korean model for state TV .... all hail Boris, the immortal one :hee:

[Livia]

I think the BBC should adopt the North Korean model for state TV .... all hail Boris, the immortal one :hee:

So long as Boris gets that suit and that haircut.

[billy123]

I couldnt give a dogs dick about the BBC i hope it becomes a subscription only service and buggers off into obscurity to be watched by old dears and establishment luvvies everywhere instead of imposing itself on as many people as they can get away with regardless of if they want it or not.

[arista]

the Licence to go on for a likely another 11 years is predicted too.
Doesn't sound much of a anything promising coming from this today.


Yes and in 2017 they can put it up in price

[arista]

So the BBC is to become a governmental mouthpeice, as I predicted? :idc:


No as they will deal with Complaints
not the Creative control.


We are Not China
Kizzy, dear


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/may/12/bbc-john-whittingdale-white-paper-star-pay-board

[arista]

Something else the government is going to fiddle with and ruin.


No Ofcom will take over from the BBC Trust

[Kizzy]

No as they will deal with Complaints
not the Creative control.


We are Not China
Kizzy, dear


http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/may/12/bbc-john-whittingdale-white-paper-star-pay-board

Yet.

[joeysteele]

Yes and in 2017 they can put it up in price

... and they will, almost for sure.

[Cherie]

... and they will, almost for sure.

That won't worry the people who swerve it Joey

[bots]

The only thing that really concerns me is that the government get a seat on the board of directors, I think that's wrong

[billy123]

One for the old crusty BBC groupies to enjoy. haha the fact the BBC lost editorial impartiality years ago was obvious. The paedo lovers just dance to whoever plays the tune they need to hear.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/may/12/bbc-bias-labour-sir-michael-lyons?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


The BBC may have bowed to political pressure to show bias against Labour and Jeremy Corbyn, a former chair of the BBC Trust has said.

Sir Michael Lyons, who chaired the trust from 2007 to 2011 and is a former Labour councillor, claimed that there had been “some quite extraordinary attacks on the elected leader of the Labour party”.

He told the BBC’s The World at One: “I can understand why people are worried about whether some of the most senior editorial voices in the BBC have lost their impartiality on this.

“All I’m voicing is the anxiety that has been expressed publicly by others … We had here a charter review process which has been littered with wild kites flown which, we can’t see the string is held by the secretary of state, but the suspicion is that actually it’s people very close to him.


The stories you need to read, in one handy email
Read more
“His own comments have suggested that he might be blessed by a future without the BBC. Is the BBC strong enough to withstand a challenge to its integrity and impartiality?”

Lyons said there were “very real suspicions that ministers want to get much closer to the BBC, and that is not in anybody’s interests”.

It comes after more than 35,000 people signed a petition calling for Laura Kuenssberg to be sacked as political editor of the BBC over accusations that she was biased against Corbyn. It was taken down by the organisers after some people used the petition to make sexist remarks about her.

Labour has complained about media bias against the party without singling out the BBC. Corbyn told grassroots supporters that it was necessary for Labour to use social media to communicate with the public, because rightwing media were censoring political debate in an unprecedented assault on the party.

Tony Hall, the BBC director general, also speaking to the The World at One, said Lyons’s claim was “extraordinary” and denied that there was any bias.

“That’s not the journalism I know or the journalists in this organisation I know,” he said. “I think the journalism of the BBC is impartial. We test all sides. The journalists in the BBC do a really hard job in the midst of controversy, bringing a light and calm judgments to what’s going on.”

The BBC gave no further comment.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/05/12/10/191D1C1B000005DC-3586462-image-a-13_1463043752324.jpg
[Big changes: The 500,000 people
who watch BBC live - or its shows - via iPlayer for free
will now have to pay the licence fee]

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3586396/BBC-stars-earning-450-000-year-pay-deals-secret-ministers-rule-Director-General-deserve-public-scrutiny.html#ixzz48UfXIKsg

[the truth]

Its been too left wing for years. It's output has fallen in quality too and everything is too formulaic. So little chance for original shows and writers

[user104658]

Its been too left wing for years. It's output has fallen in quality too and everything is too formulaic. So little chance for original shows and writers
Left wing? They've been sucking off the Tories since 2010...

[Kizzy]

Left wing? They've been sucking off the Tories since 2010...

Yep, Kuenssberg, Marr, Neil... top noshers.

[arista]

Left wing? They've been sucking off the Tories since 2010...


How Nice

[user104658]

How Nice
For the Tories I guess... Can't say it's something I'd like to see personally.

[the truth]

Left wing? They've been sucking off the Tories since 2010...

Yes hopelessly left wing. It's been a pc liberal lefty mess for years

[user104658]

Yes hopelessly left wing. It's been a pc liberal lefty mess for years
Well they're not very good at that either then, with their selective reporting in favour of anti-left government policies.

They also absolutely slobber over the royals. You don't get much more right wing than the royals.

[arista]

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2016/5/12/465185/default/v1/thei-1-992x558.jpg

[Marsh.]

The BBC is value for money, worth every penny!

Arista, please give me the good and bad reasons for this?

Right ok.. Arista do you even know anything?

The BBC is value for money.. Look at all the tv and radio channels you get, plus fantastic web and mobile phone support with bbc iplayer, the iplayer is now for mobile aswell.

Saying that the bbc is bloated is invalid, you need to argue the cause with more depth..

Another invalid post by Arista..:nono:

You dislike the BBC because.. "they are bloated!"

You're knowlege is nonsensical.

You do hate the truth Arista..

Arista is just some 80s fax machine..

The BBC is not going to change, Arista needs to change or he will end up in some Afgan fax machine repair shop.

Good for the BBC.. worth every penny!

I would even pay more for it..

Sky is the bloated devil..

But Arista you really need to learn about what Tom said, it will help you understand why we are right and why you are so wrong.

Thank you please.

Arista has no idea..

In Arista's world the BBC would have product placement on every show..

In Arista's world tv ad revenue would drop and would result in more ads in the tv shows on top of product placement.

In Arista's world 1,000s would lose their jobs.

In Arista's world we would have fk all to watch..

In Arista's world Sky TV would become bloated and greedy with many poor familes priced out from watching sky, and Sky would out bid any network for tv rights..

In Arista's world the machines will rise and hunt down the human race..

Arista you're the one that makes silly posts..

You know fk all about how the business works and the knock on effect it would have on British TV..

You post sh*t like "BBC must change" but you have nothing to back it up that would benefit the industry.

The BBC is great value for money, my tv licence is too cheap! I should pay more for what i get..

ITV.. Sh*t!
SKY.. Sh*t!

The BBC is great value for money, my tv licence is too cheap! I should pay more for what i get..

ITV.. Sh*t!
SKY.. Sh*t!


You have said all this before.
What is Important now
is they are going to get smaller
which is common sense.
Ch4 is good as well.


Sign Of The Times."Common sense"
And why would that be so?

:amazed:

I love you.

COME BACK!

[arista]

:amazed:

I love you.

COME BACK!


You are aware
that he sadly passed away?
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185742

[Marsh.]

No, but what a guy. :clap1: