Science Teacher half kills a 14 year old student

[arista]

Peter Harvey, 49, is alleged to have assaulted the youngsters with a weight during a science lesson at All Saints' Roman Catholic School in Mansfield.


That boy must have wound him up so much.

A Online pupils report on this Teacher
gives him Top marks.


I guess this is Rare
we get pupils attacking Teachers
most times.


Life In The City.


http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2009/Jul/Week2/15334224.jpg

[Mrluvaluva]

With regards to the teacher, I was just reading this:

"One father said: "It's a massive shock and very sad because if there is something wrong with the teacher it cannot be totally his fault."

Claire Tonks, 23, was dropping her nephew at the school today. She said: "It's a good school and I can't believe it as it could have been my nephew." A 48-year-old grandmother added: "The teacher has got to have been pushed to do it because he stands to lose his job."

The school is located in a rundown area of Mansfield and boarded-up houses line the street around it.

Senior teachers and police officers stood outside the gates ushering pupils in this morning. Chris Holmes, 19, a semi-pro wrestler and former pupil at the school, said: "I'm shocked. He was an alright teacher and a decent guy."

He added: "He was not one of those guys where you would go 'Oh no, I've got him next'."

Tom Blythe, also 19 and a former pupil at the school, said: "I didn't think the pupils would give him stick. He was actually a decent bloke and got involved in school plays."

He described the teacher as "a bit of a legend". "It must have been serious for him to snap." "


He seems to have a lot of support. Nobody seems to be declaring outrage over it. Still, using a weight (allegedly) is a bit excessive. It will be interesting to see this story unfolds now he has been arrested.


Source - The Lounge - Page 131

[bettiepage]

I thought my old science teacher was a nut :shocked: She threw a plant in my direction, so I threw it out her window.

[SiaSiaSia]

"Tom Blythe, also 19 and a former pupil at the school, said: "I didn't think the pupils would give him stick. He was actually a decent bloke and got involved in school plays.""

because NOONE who gets involved with school plays can provoke somewone :/

[andyman]

"half kills".. ?


Plenty of vile lil sh*t head brats think they can do what they want..

But that teacher has to pay the price for his actions.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by SiaSiaSia

"Tom Blythe, also 19 and a former pupil at the school, said: "I didn't think the pupils would give him stick. He was actually a decent bloke and got involved in school plays.""

because NOONE who gets involved with school plays can provoke somewone :/

I think they were trying to use that as an example in trying to get across that he was a decent bloke, who would get involved with the pupils, and not just one who did the bare minimum necessary. That excerpt shows some positive comments in his defence, when you might expect a bit of a backlash against someone in a case like this.

[Shaun]

rofl @ "half kills".

Um no. kills or hurts ktx.

[arista]

Originally posted by andyman
"half kills".. ?


Plenty of vile lil sh*t head brats think they can do what they want..

But that teacher has to pay the price for his actions.


I am sure that Teacher
will pay the price for his actions.

[Tom4784]

I like how they try to shift the blame away from the teacher, but then again it's the Daily Mail. To them teenagers are evil demons who are more monkey then man.

The man deserves everything he gets, no matter what happens he should have had the sense not to let anything a fourteen year old get to him. No matter what was said nothing constitutes attacking a kid with a weight.

[arista]

Originally posted by Dezzy
I like how they try to shift the blame away from the teacher, but then again it's the Daily Mail. To them teenagers are evil demons who are more monkey then man.

The man deserves everything he gets, no matter what happens he should have had the sense not to let anything a fourteen year old get to him. No matter what was said nothing constitutes attacking a kid with a weight.


Yes Young Dezzy
he sure had a breakdown.

[Mrluvaluva]

Is it the hair?

[Scarlett.]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46036000/jpg/_46036364_jack_waterhouse.jpg

I know that kind of face, it reminds me of the little ***** that made my teenage life hell

[ange7]

Originally posted by Chewy
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46036000/jpg/_46036364_jack_waterhouse.jpg

I know that kind of face, it reminds me of the little ***** that made my teenage life hell
*reaches for a weight*

[Novo]

Originally posted by Chewy
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46036000/jpg/_46036364_jack_waterhouse.jpg

Looks like a cocky little ****!

Should have singed his hair with the bunsen burner

[Lauren]

Originally posted by .Andy.
Originally posted by Chewy
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46036000/jpg/_46036364_jack_waterhouse.jpg

Looks like a cocky little ****!

Should have singed his hair with the bunsen burner

pmsfl!!

[Marc]

Originally posted by Lauren
Originally posted by .Andy.
Originally posted by Chewy
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46036000/jpg/_46036364_jack_waterhouse.jpg

Looks like a cocky little ****!

Should have singed his hair with the bunsen burner

pmsfl!!

haha aww its nice to start the day with a funny joke... and getting paid.

[Mrluvaluva]

"A leafleting campaign supporting Mr Harvey is planned outside the school.

The leafleting is expected to start at 1530 BST outside the school grounds. "


There is growing support for the teacher.

[arista]

Yes they call that Teacher a Legend
but he Cracked and went Evil.



Sign Of The Times.

[arista]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/10/article-1198469-05A87B7A000005DC-303_224x423.jpg
science teacher Peter Harvey,
who is being held on suspicion of attempted murder

'Ticking timebomb' teacher 'faced Michael Jackson taunts before classroom attack' on schoolboy, 14

"The 49-year-old science teacher - described by pupils as 'a ticking timebomb' - is alleged to have snapped during a physics lesson and hit Jack with a 2kg metal weight, shouting: People are going to die."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198469/Ticking-timebomb-teacher-Peter-Harvey-faced-Michael-Jackson-taunts-classroom-attack-boy-14.html

[Mrluvaluva]

"The experienced teacher - a married man with two daughters - is believed to have returned to work several weeks ago after suffering a stroke brought on by stress. "

"Trouble is said to have begun on Wednesday morning after a schoolgirl swore at him and tore a text book."

"He is said to have snapped as pupils sang 'I'm staring at the psycho in the mirror' to a Michael Jackson tune."

"Mr Harvey attacked Jack with the weight from a set of scales after the boy also swore at him, pupils said."

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally posted by Rice_square
I thought my old science teacher was a nut :shocked: She threw a plant in my direction, so I threw it out her window.

:laugh: I can imagine you throwing the plant out of the window and everyone going "Ooooo".

I had a DT city landscape thrown at me from my DT teacher because i didnt put enough effort in so I threw it on the floor and stamped on it, if he didnt liek my work and i hated DT, why would i keep working on it, I then spent the last 5 lessons doing nothing while everyone was finishing there things off... was fun :bigsmile:

[Kore]

teachers get so much flak in the classrooms these days! the pupils run the schools.

no wonder he snapped.

[Mrluvaluva]

He had only got back to school recently after suffering a stroke with stress, and the pupils still continue to swear at him and wind him up. Talk about kicking someone when they are down. Do any of these kids have a heart or just a swinging brick?

[arista]

The Teacher has now been Charged.

[Marc]

whats the charge?

[Matt08]

Originally posted by Marcjswp
whats the charge?

Attempted murder.

[30stone]

The title is over the top for a start.

Secondly, this obviously isnt some straight A student, he probs been winding him up for months, and was just pushed over the edge

Me and my mum were talking about it the other day, i wouldnt blame him if he just hit him.

Use of a weapon though is bad.

Children need to be put in their place imo, i could never be a teacher or id be in prison by now.

Edit: no pervert comments :nono:

[Marc]

Originally posted by Matt08
Originally posted by Marcjswp
whats the charge?

Attempted murder.

Ooh silly me. I thought for some reason he knew the sentence but thats not for a long time :joker:

[Marc]

Originally posted by 30stone
The title is over the top for a start.

Secondly, this obviously isnt some straight A student, he probs been winding him up for months, and was just pushed over the edge

Me and my mum were talking about it the other day, i wouldnt blame him if he just hit him.

Use of a weapon though is bad.

Children need to be put in their place imo, i could never be a teacher or id be in prison by now.

Edit: no pervert comments :nono:

wheyyy!! < insert pervy perv perv comments! >!

No I agree with you some kids really do push their luck. Obviously the weapon of choice is bad and maybe just a hit around the head or a ruler across the face would be acceptable. But yeah.. crazy stuff!

[Mrluvaluva]

Everybody has a tolerance threshold. To use a weight and say "people are gonna die" though shows the teacher had serious issues. And his darling little pupils obviously did not help.

[coraaa]

Ooh, I got quoted somewhere! Mr. Harvey is actually a proper nice guy though, nice to see that nobody's slating him :)

[Mrluvaluva]

Are you a pupil of his?

[coraaa]

He was my form tutor for about 3 years and then taught me after that, yep. I left last year. Went to his hearing today to give him a card :)

[Mrluvaluva]

I see he has been remanded in custody. He seems to have a lot of public support. I haven't seen a bad word said against him.

[coraaa]

Yeah he hasn't applied for bail but they doubt he'd get it anyway. Both for his own safety and incase he does it again. I can't believe they're even using the latter as a reason, there's nothing to suggest he'd do it again.

It was a shame that not many people showed up at the hearing. I mean, lots of pupils are saying that they support him and stuff and didn't even show up.

There were soooo many cameras there though, getting in my face when I'm crying and stuff! Not fun but it was worth it for seeing him :)

[Mrluvaluva]

It's hard to know what to believe in the papers. One rag is describing the victim, Jack, as a "little angel" today.

Welcome to the forum btw. I see you are new. What brought you here? Are you a BB fan?

[coraaa]

It seems strange to think that a man who has no previous convictions whatsoever would suddenly, for no reason, allegedly 'attempt to murder' a 'little angel'.

and I joined cause I saw somebody had used an extract from an article with my name in it :( LOL.

[Mrluvaluva]

Oh I agree. I don't think the public know the full facts behind this case yet. It's good to see he has public support and is not being made out to be a monster by the press, as they usually like to do.

[coraaa]

I hope it stays that way :) As I said to the press today, I'll happily put my name against anything that's supporting him, but I don't want any quotes to be used in any articles or papers that are being mean :(

[Mrluvaluva]

It is good to see people like you supporting him, however, I am not sure the outcome of this case will bode him well. I see he is due back in court on July 27.

[coraaa]

Thanks! and yeah, he's appearing via video link apparently. I'm hoping to get a day off work to go. It's a shame he won't be there though because I'd like to see him again.

I really hope he gets the help he deserves :)

[Mrluvaluva]

Hopefully he will. From what I have heard, it is completely out of character for him, and he seems to have been under a lot of stress recently, especially with suffering from a stroke.

[coraaa]

He needed support and he still needs it now. Not that I condone what he did and I do hope the little kid gets well soon but every single person in that classroom is responsible for what happened and I hope they all feel guilty for what they've done.

[Mrluvaluva]

Because of them taunting him?

[coraaa]

Yeah. Anybody shouting, laughing or not trying to calm the dispute or whatever it was is partially responsible for what happened.

[Mrluvaluva]

I don't really know what happened. There hasn't been mush said in the press apart from them singing that MJ song at him apparently and certain pupils swearing at him. Funny how a "little angel" would swear at a teacher huh?

[coraaa]

"...Meanwhile friends and neighbours of stricken Jack - in a "serious but stable" condition at Nottingham's Queens Medical Centre - claimed he was a polite boy who "wouldn't hurt a fly."

He is thought to have intervened in the row between the teacher and a girl pupil just before the attack happened.

Jack lives with heavily pregnant mum Claire in a modern townhouse in a quiet cul-de-sac in Worksop, Notts, with his two younger twin brothers.

A neighbour, who didn't want to be named , said: "I've been numb since I heard it on the news because it's just not like Jack.to be involved in something like this.

"He's a good quiet lad and I'm surprised that he is mixed up in this sort of thing.

"We've never had any trouble from him in the seven years that we've lived here."

The neighbour said Clare had sent Jack to All Saints School despite it being almost 15 miles away simply because it was such a good school and she wanted the best for her children. "


If I remember rightly, the quiet ones never tried to intervene in a row?

[Mrluvaluva]

"Friends and neighbours" eh? That might not be the complete truth that they are saying. As I said, it is hard to know what to believe in the papers. It can often be a complete contrast to the facts of the matter. I would rather remain open minded. I just feel in this case there are circumstances surrounding it that the public are not aware of. These pupils are most probably not the innocent parties they are made out to be. I hope the truth comes out in time.

[arista]

If he is a good lad why did he say
to that teacher
"******* Off and have another Stroke"


The papers today show he ain't a good Lad at all.

[coraaa]

But he wouldn't hurt a fly ;)

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by arista

If he is a good lad why did he say
to that teacher
"******* Off and have another Stroke"


The papers today shoe he ain'y a good Lad at all.

What paper was that in?

[coraaa]

I haven't read it in the paper but it's everywhere online.

[30stone]

I hate it when the kids are allways so good.

Not far away from me a boy was stabbed and in the papers it had his family in the paper saying how he was a great student never got into trouble was always with his freinds, didnt drink smoke or do drugs never got into trouble..

Making out he was the perfect young lad.

Turns out he got stabbed because he was in a gang and he robbed another gang for drugs.. lol, i doubt this boy was a "little Angel" in this story lol.

[Mrluvaluva]

I see it has been reported in The Sun.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2529998/Sir-is-charged-with-attempted-murder.html

It also says in the article that the teacher had suffered “years of constant and unnecessary abuse”.

Sounds like he had some charming pupils.

[30stone]

"It is claimed that before the incident Jack said “******* off and have another stroke”."


Aww what a little angel.



"He was on medication and had recently been seen talking to himself in corridors and shaking in class. It is said he “snapped” after more than 20 pupils in his class sang “I’m staring at the Psycho in the Mirror” to the tune of the Michael Jackson hit Man in the Mirror. "

[Mrluvaluva]

I just read this actually.

"Apparently the kid had said to him "fu.ck off and have another stroke"

Although I cannot condone what the teacher did- if he had said that to a big bloke in a pub it would have been an ash tray slammed into his head".


How true. :whistle:

Actions = consequences.

[arista]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva


What paper was that in?

Page 17
The Sun.

[30stone]

Yeh exactly they would say because hes a child he could defend himself and loads of other things to make the teacher look worse.

Thing is the child, was obviously some little twat, that was completely out of order.
Even though i believe the 2kg weight used was a bad choice.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by 30stone

Even though i believe the 2kg weight used was a bad choice.

Agreeably. Although it was most probably the nearest thing to hand. As I said earlier, everybody has their breaking point. I am sure in hindsight that is regrettable. People do not always think straight in the heat of the moment, even though that seems extreme. Let's just hope the lad is ok.

[Tom4784]

I don't have sympathy for the teacher. If he was professional he would have removed himself from the situation. The kid was a little b*stard yes and should be punished but does that mean he deserved to have his head nearly beaten in with a weight? Remember people, this kid is 14 years old and he doesn't look very intimidating, especially to a grown man.

At the end of the day, the teacher should have brushed off the kid's comments and taken apropriate action. He's had a tough few years yes but you have to leave that behind when you step into a classroom and keep up a professional gameface.

It sickens me how people are taking glee in such violence commited against kids. Would you still feel the same if you knew him? If he was your son? Brother? Nephew? Friend?

[coraaa]

I have never condoned what Mr Harvey has done and I never will. Who's 'taking glee in it?'

I stand by the fact that Mr Harvey is a lovely and genuine man who was pushed too far. The little kid probably hit a nerve, not that that justifies it.

and surely a mentally ill person (if found), struggles to or can't 'keep up a professional gameface', after all, he is a human being and he should've been given more support or not allowed back to teach.

[Simone.]

Originally posted by 30stone
I hate it when the kids are allways so good.

Not far away from me a boy was stabbed and in the papers it had his family in the paper saying how he was a great student never got into trouble was always with his freinds, didnt drink smoke or do drugs never got into trouble..

Making out he was the perfect young lad.

Turns out he got stabbed because he was in a gang and he robbed another gang for drugs.. lol, i doubt this boy was a "little Angel" in this story lol.

Yeh that happened around here.
Some sixteen year old got shot & they were trying to make out he was dead good & hadn't done anything wrong and wasn't involved in gang crime when he clearly was.

I mean I get that like he was shot at 16 & lost his life way to early & it's sad but that's what happens when people are involved in that kind of crap.

[coraaa]

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98973423902

Sign it if you agree with it and don't sign it if you don't, siiiimple! :) It will also ask you to donate some money towards the site, just exit and you'll still be counted :)

[Mrluvaluva]

Oh my. I just viewed the link. Do we we have any further info on what happened yet?

[coraaa]

The kids out of hospital :)

[Mrluvaluva]

Well at least that's something. I hope he feels ashamed of what he did.

[coraaa]

Me too :/

[Mikel]

I thought he wasnt dead.
I was well shocked when I read this. haha.

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Mikel

I thought he wasnt dead.
I was well shocked when I read this. haha.

I'm lost. :puzzled:

[Mikel]

Originally posted by Mrluvaluva
Originally posted by Mikel

I thought he wasnt dead.
I was well shocked when I read this. haha.

I'm lost. :puzzled:

I got confused.
I thought he had died when the I thought the title said "killed" not "half killed"

[Novo]

Horrible little ****ing brat

:yuk:

the more i read about the little **** the more i hate him

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Mikel

I got confused.
I thought he had died when the I thought the title said "killed" not "half killed"

Ahh I see.

[jaysa24]

I think there is soooo much more to this story then we will ever know. Firstly it is so sad that the boy was hurt and there is no excuse whatsoever for a teacher (anyone really) to physically harm a student/child.

It's so easy to look at the boy in hospital and think that discusting teacher he should be shot. But we do not know a thing about what has happened. The newspapers and news channels love to sensationalise everything in order to get a good story.

What if the boy went for the teacher first and the teacher was just protecting himself, Would peoples views change??? This is why we have to rely on the legal sytem to come to a conclusion. Please remember people are innocent until proven guilty and not the otherway round.

[Twilight]

Stupid people that actually think the Teacher was right to try and kill a kid.
Even if the kid was a little ****, the Teacher was stupid to let a 14 year old kid get to him hes obviously unstable, and the school shouldn't have let him work there. and i hate how everyone says teens are all evil idiots, if you think that you are so small minded.

[jaysa24]

Originally posted by Twilight
Stupid people that actually think the Teacher was right to try and kill a kid.
Even if the kid was a little ****, the Teacher was stupid to let a 14 year old kid get to him hes obviously unstable, and the school shouldn't have let him work there. and i hate how everyone says teens are all evil idiots, if you think that you are so small minded.

I agree with you about the school allowing him to come back so soon.

I think a lot of adults think teenagers today are a waste of space because all they see and hear about teenagers are, that they run around the streets causing trouble. There needs to be better communication and respect from both sides.

[Twilight]

Originally posted by jaysa24
Originally posted by Twilight
Stupid people that actually think the Teacher was right to try and kill a kid.
Even if the kid was a little ****, the Teacher was stupid to let a 14 year old kid get to him hes obviously unstable, and the school shouldn't have let him work there. and i hate how everyone says teens are all evil idiots, if you think that you are so small minded.

I agree with you about the school allowing him to come back so soon.

I think a lot of adults think teenagers today are a waste of space because all they see and hear about teenagers are, that they run around the streets causing trouble. There needs to be better communication and respect from both sides. :thumbs:

[Novo]

That little **** deserves to be locked away not the teacher :mad:

[Rodrigo2Win]

Those school kids need a bit of discipline. Good on him.

[Christina]

Omg!

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally posted by Twilight

i hate how everyone says teens are all evil idiots, if you think that you are so small minded.

Who said that?