Siavash LIED

[Staceee]

I knew he did all along but last night it was confirmed by Davina on BBBM.

He did say that Karly and Kris gave her that nickname (Rabbit) when really they said nothing! So why is everyone defending Siavash and hating Noirin? She was suspicious of him so she confronted Karly and Kris, she was right to be suspicious, he was lying.

[Lee.]

I definitely saw a conversation at some point where people were talking about noreen and saying she goes from group to group! Siavash was not lying... he overheard it too and was merely warning Noirin.

[dbfs]

this is getting boring now - he did not lie trouble is people see and hear what they want to

[Staceee]

He did lie.

Siavash:
'That's not a nickname I gave you'
'Karly and Kris got that name for you'

Karly and Kris never gave her that nickname! Yes they discussed that she can jump from group to group but never gave her a name. He made that up himself!

[tramp-stamp]

Kris said to Davina that they never called her a rabbit, but he remembers her being reffered to as a butterfly, in much the same context

So Siavash simply confused rabbit with butterfly,

[Claymores]

Sia is Captain of Team Liar just as Lisa is Captain of Team Dumb.

The Captain tried to recruit Nora and it went disasterously wrong requiring the rest of Team Liar to cover from him (badly) by saying they were in the toilet or couldn't remember.

[Staceee]

Either way he was blatantly $hit stirring.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by tramp-stamp
Kris said to Davina that they never called her a rabbit, but he remembers her being reffered to as a butterfly, in much the same context

So Siavash simply confused rabbit with butterfly,
C'mon Sia was on a recruitment drive on behalf of Team Liar. He was gameplaying as is wise enough to see the numbers were going against him. It just went disasterously wrong.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by Staceee
Either way he was blatantly $hit stirring.

PS - you need a new footnote to your sig - we've done that :laugh:

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by Staceee
He did lie.

Siavash:
'That's not a nickname I gave you'
'Karly and Kris got that name for you'

Karly and Kris never gave her that nickname! Yes they discussed that she can jump from group to group but never gave her a name. He made that up himself!

if im not mistaken what happened was lisa,kris,karly,rodrigo and siavash were by the bus stop after the eviction last week when they talked about each housemate,and karly reffered to noirin as a rabbit (and i for one know of it) but i figure when you guys say he lied,you mean when he told noirin of the comment in confidence and then when he was called on he denied it?but yeah in that sense he did lie,but in any other way is simply not true to say he lied,also not **** stirring as he was talking to a friend in confidence much like lisa does with kris,charlie and karly...

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Staceee
Either way he was blatantly $hit stirring.

Well imo he was looking out for someone he considered a friend, he did overhear them talking about Noirin and he decided to tell her AS A FRIEND, he didnt expect her to react the way she did after she PROMISED him faithfully she wouldn't repeat what he said. He wanted her to be aware and she screwed him over.

Anyway there's a big difference between having a game plan and looking out for your friends in the house and **** stirring.

[kuk]

Siavash just tried to give Noirin a advice....he`s tha man!:banana:

[Saywhat]

He certainly lied, Kris was even clueless when he got out of the house, he even thought it was a Siavass and Noirin game plan!

[Lee.]

Originally posted by Staceee
Either way he was blatantly $hit stirring.


I really do have to disagree with you.. I think he felt Noirin was more part of his group and felt he should warn her what the others had been saying... I think he was pretty shocked at her behaviour thereafter

[30stone]

Siavash was trying to cause some controversy that turned out kinda bad because there is tension in the house now.

He did lie thats just fact.

They never used the word Rabbit or bunny.

He said thats the name they gave noirin.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by Saywhat
He certainly lied, Kris was even clueless when he got out of the house, he even thought it was a Siavass and Noirin game plan!

if he had said it he isnt exactly the type to say he did so?he doesnt even think he treated fredstar that bad..hes clueless about most things so that isnt saying much in all fairness

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by 30stone
Siavash was trying to cause some controversy that turned out kinda bad because there is tension in the house now.

He did lie thats just fact.

They never used the word Rabbit or bunny.

He said thats the name they gave noirin.

forgive me,but they did use that word (i say this because i saw it,not because im on any band wagons)... he said what he saw as they were having a candid conversation and he believed there was an understanding that it would go no further... nothing more nothing less

[tramp-stamp]

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by tramp-stamp
Kris said to Davina that they never called her a rabbit, but he remembers her being reffered to as a butterfly, in much the same context

So Siavash simply confused rabbit with butterfly,
C'mon Sia was on a recruitment drive on behalf of Team Liar. He was gameplaying as is wise enough to see the numbers were going against him. It just went disasterously wrong.

I agree that it went disaterously wrong,

disasterously wrong for Siavash in Noirins attempt to sacrafice him to curry favour with Lisas group and disasterously wrong for Noirin in seeing her reject the weaker group, only to crawl back when Kris's eviction surprised the house and changed the pecking order

[30stone]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by 30stone
Siavash was trying to cause some controversy that turned out kinda bad because there is tension in the house now.

He did lie thats just fact.

They never used the word Rabbit or bunny.

He said thats the name they gave noirin.

forgive me,but they did use that word (i say this because i saw it,not because im on any band wagons)... he said what he saw as they were having a candid conversation and he believed there was an understanding that it would go no further... nothing more nothing less

I never heard them say it but ill take your word for it.

And they used it once then, they didnt always call her it, he said it was a nickame they call her, yet if its used once its just an insult really.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by Staceee
Either way he was blatantly $hit stirring.

Well imo he was looking out for someone he considered a friend, he did overhear them talking about Noirin and he decided to tell her AS A FRIEND, he didnt expect her to react the way she did after she PROMISED him faithfully she wouldn't repeat what he said. He wanted her to be aware and she screwed him over.

Anyway there's a big difference between having a game plan and looking out for your friends in the house and **** stirring.

So you can honestly tell me he wasn't just trying to recruit Nora to Team Liar?!?!

Sia is the biggest gameplayer in the house - he's said he only speaks to Halfwit because nobody else will rather than because he likes Halfwit. Halfwit is an easy to pick off 'not nominated by'

The biggest gameplayer is in apoplexy (is that how to spell it?) every time they announce who will be facing the eviction vote - the rest just seem to say "oh well"

[Saywhat]

Originally posted by kuk
Siavash just tried to give Noirin a advice....he`s tha man!:banana:

At what point is stipulating Karly and Kris are both calling you a bunny rabbit advice? Please tell? And it was a lie, Kris certainly appeared on his eviction and BBBM as if he didnt know what the HELL was going on!

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by 30stone
Siavash was trying to cause some controversy that turned out kinda bad because there is tension in the house now.

He did lie thats just fact.

They never used the word Rabbit or bunny.

He said thats the name they gave noirin.

forgive me,but they did use that word (i say this because i saw it,not because im on any band wagons)... he said what he saw as they were having a candid conversation and he believed there was an understanding that it would go no further... nothing more nothing less

I never heard them say it but ill take your word for it.

And they used it once then, they didnt always call her it, he said it was a nickame they call her, yet if its used once its just an insult really.

by my understanding what he said wasnt to do with how many times the name was used,he did not say "everyone is always calling you a bunny rabbit"

he said just be aware,some people have a nickname for you,he didnt want to divulge who until pushed by marcus and fredstar...and he had her word that it stay between friends,her promise faded within seconds of uttering the very words and true to form she bunny hopped over to the other clique to find out what was what..

[Wee-Mo]

He also LIED about being up for eviction next week big brother never told him that he was up :nono:

[Saywhat]

Siavass lied TWICE he lied about the bunny rabbits and lied that his lie was advice...double whooper!

[dbfs]

at the end of the day its proved one thing NOIRIN IS A RABBIT cos she hopped straight over to lisa and co and opened her mouth and hopped right back to Marcus and co when kris got evicted - who give a sh*t who lied or didnt it proves one thing shes a little bunny hopper d

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by Wee-Mo
He also LIED about being up for eviction next week big brother never told him that he was up :nono:

lmao if you listened carefully when he jumped outside to speak to marcus and halfwit,he said im up for eviction,not this week but next week,then added well thats what i think anyway as they just said its a punishment so it could just mean not talking or something... care to tell me how thats a lie?while he was in the diary room bb told him about the "talking about nominations" to which he replied "oh i must be up",then bb carried on stating "you will be punished,but as the phone lines are closed you will be punished after next friday"

what would you think?siavash is far from the golden boy but he DID NOT LIE there...nor did he lie with what was said about noirins nickname..

[Claymores]

Originally posted by tramp-stamp
Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by tramp-stamp
Kris said to Davina that they never called her a rabbit, but he remembers her being reffered to as a butterfly, in much the same context

So Siavash simply confused rabbit with butterfly,
C'mon Sia was on a recruitment drive on behalf of Team Liar. He was gameplaying as is wise enough to see the numbers were going against him. It just went disasterously wrong.

I agree that it went disaterously wrong,

disasterously wrong for Siavash in Noirins attempt to sacrafice him to curry favour with Lisas group and disasterously wrong for Noirin in seeing her reject the weaker group, only to crawl back when Kris's eviction surprised the house and changed the pecking order

Well Nora is certainly no angel (no pun intended). I wouldn't defend her either. My only slight defence is that she refused to tell Team Dumb who had been sh|t stirring - Sia outed himself.

[Saywhat]

Originally posted by dbfs
at the end of the day its proved one thing NOIRIN IS A RABBIT cos she hopped straight over to lisa and co and opened her mouth and hopped right back to Marcus and co when kris got evicted - who give a sh*t who lied or didnt it proves one thing shes a little bunny hopper d


At the end of the day, because it was a BIG FAT PORKY it was ONLY right Noirin questioned it!

1, Noirin was well with her rights

2, It was a lie

3, She was in her rights to clarify if Kris and Karly were bitching about her

4, If she didnt, she would have been MANIPULATED against the others in the house for weeks by Siavass, by yours truly the lying toadrag!

5, at the end of the day, if Siavass never lied, we wouldnt be talking about it! WOULD WE!

[tintedshadow]

noirin would have been within her rights had she not stipulated before hand that it would stay between them and she would take it no further..
siavash however DID NOT LIE,its not a matter of opinion its a fact that some may choose to over look but it wont stop being less true..karly did in fact say it,kris was there,as was lisa and siavash..

strange how some people fail to see whats real and undesputable..

[Saywhat]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
noirin would have been within her rights had she not stipulated before hand that it would stay between them and she would take it no further..
siavash however DID NOT LIE,its not a matter of opinion its a fact that some may choose to over look but it wont stop being less true..karly did in fact say it,kris was there,as was lisa and siavash..

strange how some people fail to see whats real and undesputable..

Stop talking rubbish, what else do you think someone would do if they were really talked about behind their backs?? Come off it man!

[Claymores]

Originally posted by dbfs
this is getting boring now - he did not lie trouble is people see and hear what they want to

So C4 got lookalikes to go in and say Kris and Karly while the Halfwit lookalike was not in the toilet but sitting opposite :conf:

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Siavash didn't lie. He overheard the conversation between Lisa, Karly and Kris and tried to advise his friend (or who he thought was his friend) to be aware of what was going on. Norin is the one who lied by promising Siavash that she wouldn't say anything to anybody about what he was going to tell her and then she goes and opens her big gob.

You are right Wee-mo, BB did not tell him (directly) that he was up for eviction next week. But when Siavash told Marcus and Freddie he was going to be punished for talking about nominations, he presumed that part of that punishment was that he would have a silent task (remember he said that!) and that he would be up for eviction. Siavahs is tha man.

[Saywhat]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Siavash didn't lie. He overheard the conversation between Lisa, Karly and Kris and tried to advise his friend (or who he thought was his friend) to be aware of what was going on. Norin is the one who lied by promising Siavash that she wouldn't say anything to anybody about what he was going to tell her and then she goes and opens her big gob.

You are right Wee-mo, BB did not tell him (directly) that he was up for eviction next week. But when Siavash told Marcus and Freddie he was going to be punished for talking about nominations, he presumed that part of that punishment was that he would have a silent task (remember he said that!) and that he would be up for eviction. Siavahs is tha man.


Oh for heavensakes, he lied! He couldnt even say it to Kris or Karly's face!

[Wee-Mo]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Siavash didn't lie. He overheard the conversation between Lisa, Karly and Kris and tried to advise his friend (or who he thought was his friend) to be aware of what was going on. Norin is the one who lied by promising Siavash that she wouldn't say anything to anybody about what he was going to tell her and then she goes and opens her big gob.

You are right Wee-mo, BB did not tell him (directly) that he was up for eviction next week. But when Siavash told Marcus and Freddie he was going to be punished for talking about nominations, he presumed that part of that punishment was that he would have a silent task (remember he said that!) and that he would be up for eviction. Siavahs is tha man.

Yes but then he went into the room to tell the others he was up next week :blush2:

[Claymores]

The sweat pouring off the liar was funny on LF when he was caught out....it was almost a Nick Bateman moment.......if only Nora wasn't such a motormouth he'd have buried himself as he lied more and more trying to justify it. I wanted to throw him a spade so he could dig himself even deeper without having to lie on his mother's life.

Unfortunately Nora was incapable of holding her ground and came across as a bit of a harpy.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by Saywhat
Originally posted by tintedshadow
noirin would have been within her rights had she not stipulated before hand that it would stay between them and she would take it no further..
siavash however DID NOT LIE,its not a matter of opinion its a fact that some may choose to over look but it wont stop being less true..karly did in fact say it,kris was there,as was lisa and siavash..

strange how some people fail to see whats real and undesputable..

Stop talking rubbish, what else do you think someone would do if they were really talked about behind their backs?? Come off it man!
do yourself a favour,and calm down.i may not agree with you but i dont think your talking rubbish..

anyhoo like i said,she would be within her rights IF she had not said she would keep it between them.no point making a promise and then going back on it for whatever reason,also as i have stated before siavash had heard karly call noirin that and so as a friend (As im sure you would if i called your mate something along the lines of bunny rabbit and yet was sweet to their faces) im sure you would let your mate know i had said it no?

for all concerned siavash did not lie,he perhaps shouldnt have had so much faith in noirins word but what he said was nothing less than a fact..

[Claymores]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Siavash didn't lie

He piled lie upon lie when he swore on his mother's life to Kris that he hadn't identified him.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

No he didn't lie. Love the geezer. Up Iran.

[Claymores]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
No he didn't lie. Love the geezer. Up Iran.

That sounds the definitive statement on the matter - or were you watching a different channel? How do I get my telebox to give me alternative reality?

[tintedshadow]

seems like your tv's already on this alternative reality as he did not lie :whistle:

[Staceee]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by Wee-Mo
He also LIED about being up for eviction next week big brother never told him that he was up :nono:

lmao if you listened carefully when he jumped outside to speak to marcus and halfwit,he said im up for eviction,not this week but next week,then added well thats what i think anyway as they just said its a punishment so it could just mean not talking or something... care to tell me how thats a lie?while he was in the diary room bb told him about the "talking about nominations" to which he replied "oh i must be up",then bb carried on stating "you will be punished,but as the phone lines are closed you will be punished after next friday"

what would you think?siavash is far from the golden boy but he DID NOT LIE there...nor did he lie with what was said about noirins nickname..

Do you have the proof that Karly did call her a Rabbit cause you have got to be the only person that has seen this. If I see it I can change my mind but at this moment I think that Siavash is a liar and a $hit stirer.

[Staceee]

Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Siavash didn't lie

He piled lie upon lie when he swore on his mother's life to Kris that he hadn't identified him.

Yes he did!
I forgot that one he also said to Karly he hadn't said anything behind her back

[peacemaker]

Originally posted by Staceee
He did lie.

Siavash:
'That's not a nickname I gave you'
'Karly and Kris got that name for you'

Karly and Kris never gave her that nickname! Yes they discussed that she can jump from group to group but never gave her a name. He made that up himself!

that's bullshit , siavash didn't lie & he didn't want to cause the spectale which followed started by noirin
how do you know karly & kris didn't call noirin a rabbit?
unless you watch livefeed 24h/day you can't be sure & if there is one person who's untrustworthy it's kris or karly
kris is known for lying i.e on the eviction show they showed kris talking in the diary room whilst twitching about how he loves sophie :rolleyes:
kris is the liar

[Staceee]

Originally posted by peacemaker
Originally posted by Staceee
He did lie.

Siavash:
'That's not a nickname I gave you'
'Karly and Kris got that name for you'

Karly and Kris never gave her that nickname! Yes they discussed that she can jump from group to group but never gave her a name. He made that up himself!

that's bullshit , siavash didn't lie & he didn't want to cause the spectale which followed started by noirin
how do you know karly & kris didn't call noirin a rabbit?
unless you watch livefeed 24h/day you can't be sure & if there is one person who's untrustworthy it's kris or karly
kris is known for lying i.e on the eviction show they showed kris talking in the diary room whilst twitching about how he loves sophie :rolleyes:
kris is the liar

How do you know they did call her a Rabbit?
I know they didn't because Davina said on BBBM that Siavash was lying. And it's obvious he was lying by the way he said to Karly in the bedroom that he hadn't said anything behind her back. Which of course was another lie.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

There is no telling you Staceee. You have made up your mind that Siavash lied. I have made up my mind that he didn't. Norin was (is) the biggest liar of them all. And so is Lisa a massive liar as she often says "I don't talk about people behind their backs." Lol if that is not a lie I don't know what it. Siavash is tha man. Up Iran.

[LipticBoven]

I don't know if they did or didn't call her a rabbit but they clearly do view noirin how siavash described.

I have heard them say a few times that noirin is basically there best friend 1 day and doesn't speak to them the next, and even last night after kris lift Lisa, Charlie, and aKarly were talking about if they could trust noirin becuase she is constantly hot and cold with them.

The word rabbit may not have come up but it is clear Siavash was right, and that they do view her that way.

[Staceee]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
There is no telling you Staceee. You have made up your mind that Siavash lied. I have made up my mind that he didn't. Norin was (is) the biggest liar of them all. And so is Lisa a massive liar as she often says "I don't talk about people behind their backs." Lol if that is not a lie I don't know what it. Siavash is tha man. Up Iran.

I'm not saying that other people in the house are honest but in this case Siavash definatly lied on more than one occasion. He isn't the worst housemate but he isn't totally innocent either, also I am not supporting Noirin it is just fact that he told a few lies on that night.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by Staceee
Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
There is no telling you Staceee. You have made up your mind that Siavash lied. I have made up my mind that he didn't. Norin was (is) the biggest liar of them all. And so is Lisa a massive liar as she often says "I don't talk about people behind their backs." Lol if that is not a lie I don't know what it. Siavash is tha man. Up Iran.

I'm not saying that other people in the house are honest but in this case Siavash definatly lied on more than one occasion. He isn't the worst housemate but he isn't totally innocent either, also I am not supporting Noirin it is just fact that he told a few lies on that night.

Well we will agree to disagree. Nevertheless an interesting topic you started here. You have really got some peoples backs up here lol.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by Staceee
Do you have the proof that Karly did call her a Rabbit cause you have got to be the only person that has seen this. If I see it I can change my mind but at this moment I think that Siavash is a liar and a $hit stirer.

i can assure you i am not the only one to have seen this and for me to prove it would be like saying can you prove it didnt happen?i dont want to be arguementative i overstand my word is simply not enough but i have seen this and have said all i can recall...

but as far as him being a liar or a **** stirrer,i put it to you had your friend been called a bunny rabbit and you had a moment with your friend,would you not bring it up to them?as a friend i see no reason not to,if noirin felt she couldnt keep it to herself there really was no need to even promise to keep quiet in the first place... but siavash did as most would in his position dont you think?

[Staceee]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by Staceee
Do you have the proof that Karly did call her a Rabbit cause you have got to be the only person that has seen this. If I see it I can change my mind but at this moment I think that Siavash is a liar and a $hit stirer.

i can assure you i am not the only one to have seen this and for me to prove it would be like saying can you prove it didnt happen?i dont want to be arguementative i overstand my word is simply not enough but i have seen this and have said all i can recall...

but as far as him being a liar or a **** stirrer,i put it to you had your friend been called a bunny rabbit and you had a moment with your friend,would you not bring it up to them?as a friend i see no reason not to,if noirin felt she couldnt keep it to herself there really was no need to even promise to keep quiet in the first place... but siavash did as most would in his position dont you think?

This depends on whether Karly and Kris actually gave her the nickname Rabbit or not.

I believe he is a liar more than before after Davina said that he was lying.

If I was to see proof of Karly and Kris giving Noirin that 'nickname' my veiws would change but my instinct tells me that (lol I'm doing a Freddie) Siavash blew the whole thing out of proportion and exaggerated or made what Karly and Kris did say about her look worse than it was. I know that they did say she jumps from group to group - which is true and not necessarily a bad thing to say about her. But Siavash implyed that they were giving her names behind her back which I havn't seen happening.

Then again without the live feed what do we know? I'm just going on what I have seen.

[tintedshadow]

yeah i see your point and i wouldnt just go on hearsay myself,it would be on having seen it for myself.which is what i have..but let me rephrase what i meant,i can literally tell you what happened but i doubt that would change much..
so ill say this,either he heard it or not right?so either he heard it in which case he is speaking straight up fact which is undeniable OR he THINKS he heard it which means he is telling the truth as he see's it.

he was not lying but i overstand you wont believe so on just my word,but im curios,what would you do if you were siavash and had heard something about someone you considered a friend?would you not bring it up simply so they would be more aware of the situation?

[boomoo]

Davina saying that something has not been said is ot necessarily correct.

At the very beginning when someone said that Lisa and karly were discussing noms she said, 'C4 have carefully scruutinised the tapes and they were not discuiing noms'.

Well I have seen them doing just that on several occasions.
'We know the next three' with a nod in a certain direction IS discussing noms in my book. They do it after every eviction.

Saying ' we thought Freddie had changed, but he is still the same' will mean that Freddie will be nominated again.

They think they are clever but karly and Lisa have still not realised this.

We vote out the people we want out.

Kris denied being absolutely nasty to Freddie and he was. He denied calling Noirin a rabbit because Lisa said no one called her a rabbit. that was true but they did say she hopped from one group to another. Siewash interpreted that as the action of a rabbit, Kris said butterfly. Same difference.

Siewash was trying to protect himself and as a result he may be out next week. He should of course be given a challenge.
He was the first to realise that the public were supporting Freddie.

It was sickening the way Kris said it ruined the week being up for eviction.
What about Freddie who has had to pack and unpack his case for 5 times. people are saying he is getting arrogant. No he is getting used to packing and unopacking his case every week and cannot really relax.

[Staceee]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
yeah i see your point and i wouldnt just go on hearsay myself,it would be on having seen it for myself.which is what i have..but let me rephrase what i meant,i can literally tell you what happened but i doubt that would change much..
so ill say this,either he heard it or not right?so either he heard it in which case he is speaking straight up fact which is undeniable OR he THINKS he heard it which means he is telling the truth as he see's it.

he was not lying but i overstand you wont believe so on just my word,but im curios,what would you do if you were siavash and had heard something about someone you considered a friend?would you not bring it up simply so they would be more aware of the situation?

Yes of course. If Karly and Kris really did give her that nickname then he is being totally honest. A nickname is something that is used all the time also

[Claymores]

Originally posted by Staceee
Originally posted by Claymores
Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Siavash didn't lie

He piled lie upon lie when he swore on his mother's life to Kris that he hadn't identified him.

Yes he did!
I forgot that one he also said to Karly he hadn't said anything behind her back

Suffice to say.........if siavash told me it was Saturday, I'd go and check a calendar first.

[tintedshadow]

Originally posted by Staceee
Originally posted by tintedshadow
yeah i see your point and i wouldnt just go on hearsay myself,it would be on having seen it for myself.which is what i have..but let me rephrase what i meant,i can literally tell you what happened but i doubt that would change much..
so ill say this,either he heard it or not right?so either he heard it in which case he is speaking straight up fact which is undeniable OR he THINKS he heard it which means he is telling the truth as he see's it.

he was not lying but i overstand you wont believe so on just my word,but im curios,what would you do if you were siavash and had heard something about someone you considered a friend?would you not bring it up simply so they would be more aware of the situation?

Yes of course. If Karly and Kris really did give her that nickname then he is being totally honest. A nickname is something that is used all the time also
im not for one second trying to imply the nickname is derogatory,more so that despite the trivial nature of the name it had actually been said.rodrigo lisa kris karly and siavash were all there when it was said,karly said it and not in a negative way but none the less it was said..

so when siavash bought it up,he meant it only as to say "just be aware some people think this,so dont pander to them or that idealogy"...

i fail to see how anyone can call him a shiit stirrer when compared to the likes of lisa, noirin or indeed kris for that matter..

[Staceee]

Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by Staceee
Originally posted by tintedshadow
yeah i see your point and i wouldnt just go on hearsay myself,it would be on having seen it for myself.which is what i have..but let me rephrase what i meant,i can literally tell you what happened but i doubt that would change much..
so ill say this,either he heard it or not right?so either he heard it in which case he is speaking straight up fact which is undeniable OR he THINKS he heard it which means he is telling the truth as he see's it.

he was not lying but i overstand you wont believe so on just my word,but im curios,what would you do if you were siavash and had heard something about someone you considered a friend?would you not bring it up simply so they would be more aware of the situation?

Yes of course. If Karly and Kris really did give her that nickname then he is being totally honest. A nickname is something that is used all the time also
im not for one second trying to imply the nickname is derogatory,more so that despite the trivial nature of the name it had actually been said.rodrigo lisa kris karly and siavash were all there when it was said,karly said it and not in a negative way but none the less it was said..

so when siavash bought it up,he meant it only as to say "just be aware some people think this,so dont pander to them or that idealogy"...

i fail to see how anyone can call him a shiit stirrer when compared to the likes of lisa, noirin or indeed kris for that matter..

Yeah like I said if I saw the evidence my opinion would change. You are the first person I personally have heard say that they DID call her a rabbit so this is new to me

[charliegimbert]

Originally posted by Staceee
Either way he was blatantly $hit stirring.

whi is s**t stirrer now?

[Staceee]

Originally posted by charliegimbert
Originally posted by Staceee
Either way he was blatantly $hit stirring.

whi is s**t stirrer now?

How? These are my opinions.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Look - Siavsh DID NOT lie. End off.

[peacemaker]

Originally posted by Staceee
Originally posted by peacemaker
Originally posted by Staceee
He did lie.

Siavash:
'That's not a nickname I gave you'
'Karly and Kris got that name for you'

Karly and Kris never gave her that nickname! Yes they discussed that she can jump from group to group but never gave her a name. He made that up himself!

that's bullshit , siavash didn't lie & he didn't want to cause the spectale which followed started by noirin
how do you know karly & kris didn't call noirin a rabbit?
unless you watch livefeed 24h/day you can't be sure & if there is one person who's untrustworthy it's kris or karly
kris is known for lying i.e on the eviction show they showed kris talking in the diary room whilst twitching about how he loves sophie :rolleyes:
kris is the liar

How do you know they did call her a Rabbit?
I know they didn't because Davina said on BBBM that Siavash was lying. And it's obvious he was lying by the way he said to Karly in the bedroom that he hadn't said anything behind her back. Which of course was another lie.


i didn't hear davina say that siavash lied but if she did say that then it must be true, i can't see davina lying, but i'll still remain sceptic until they show coverage of kris & karly calling noirin a rabbit

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally posted by peacemaker
Originally posted by Staceee
Originally posted by peacemaker
Originally posted by Staceee
He did lie.

Siavash:
'That's not a nickname I gave you'
'Karly and Kris got that name for you'

Karly and Kris never gave her that nickname! Yes they discussed that she can jump from group to group but never gave her a name. He made that up himself!

that's bullshit , siavash didn't lie & he didn't want to cause the spectale which followed started by noirin
how do you know karly & kris didn't call noirin a rabbit?
unless you watch livefeed 24h/day you can't be sure & if there is one person who's untrustworthy it's kris or karly
kris is known for lying i.e on the eviction show they showed kris talking in the diary room whilst twitching about how he loves sophie :rolleyes:
kris is the liar

How do you know they did call her a Rabbit?
I know they didn't because Davina said on BBBM that Siavash was lying. And it's obvious he was lying by the way he said to Karly in the bedroom that he hadn't said anything behind her back. Which of course was another lie.


i didn't hear davina say that siavash lied but if she did say that then it must be true, i can't see davina lying, but i'll still remain sceptic until they show coverage of kris & karly calling noirin a rabbit

I watched BBBM today on E4 (from last night) and no where did Davina say that Siavash lied.

[sisalto]

Originally posted by muchadoaboutnothing
Originally posted by peacemaker
Originally posted by Staceee
Originally posted by peacemaker
Originally posted by Staceee
He did lie.

Siavash:
'That's not a nickname I gave you'
'Karly and Kris got that name for you'

Karly and Kris never gave her that nickname! Yes they discussed that she can jump from group to group but never gave her a name. He made that up himself!

that's bullshit , siavash didn't lie & he didn't want to cause the spectale which followed started by noirin
how do you know karly & kris didn't call noirin a rabbit?
unless you watch livefeed 24h/day you can't be sure & if there is one person who's untrustworthy it's kris or karly
kris is known for lying i.e on the eviction show they showed kris talking in the diary room whilst twitching about how he loves sophie :rolleyes:
kris is the liar

How do you know they did call her a Rabbit?
I know they didn't because Davina said on BBBM that Siavash was lying. And it's obvious he was lying by the way he said to Karly in the bedroom that he hadn't said anything behind her back. Which of course was another lie.


i didn't hear davina say that siavash lied but if she did say that then it must be true, i can't see davina lying, but i'll still remain sceptic until they show coverage of kris & karly calling noirin a rabbit

I watched BBBM today on E4 (from last night) and no where did Davina say that Siavash lied.

More importantly, Davind never said Siavash didn't lie - therefore all we have is the word of Kris and Karly who both said they didn't say anything about Rabbit..