Come on Freddie fans admit it

[loomy]

The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.

And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.

He goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.

And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

I don't understand what people can like about him. He's not eccentric or different, go to any moderately well placed university and you will find hoardes of Freddies or variants of Freddies. Rich kids trying to disown their upbringing.

[Clockers]

Public like him when he was down, and I am happy he is confident.

[andyman]

So you don't like him?

[setanta]

i'm not with you on any of that

[golden]

Originally posted by loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.

And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.

He goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.

And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

I don't understand what people can like about him. He's not eccentric or different, go to any moderately well placed university and you will find hoardes of Freddies or variants of Freddies. Rich kids trying to disown their upbringing.

Amen :hello::hello:

[BBObsesserxX]

You need to make your posts shorter. :sleep: But I don't think that BB will help his politics career. Even though He's not the only one who wants something out of it. Sophie wants it to boost her modelling career, Rodders prolly wants better parts on soaps.

[loomy]

Originally posted by BBObsesserxX
You need to make your posts shorter. :sleep: But I don't think that BB will help his politics career. Even though He's not the only one who wants something out of it. Sophie wants it to boost her modelling career, Rodders prolly wants better parts on soaps.
That's fine that they want something out of it, as long as they're not deliberately going out of their way to change themselves and do things. It's just so contrived.

I don't see how Rodders tantrums or Sophie walking around looking like a bit of a dog without make up and her extensions falling out getting fat is going to help either of them further their wanted careers. But I can see very well how Freddie will try to use things he has done to further his political career but it's a LIE. I thought he wanted to change politics but he's just like all of them, sneaky and full of bull

[ManicWolf]

Um.... no, if that's your opinion, then fine, but Freddie is not a twit. He just wants people to be individuals, and there's nothing wrong with that. He's a free spirit, who wants to experience as much of life as posibile, which is something to admire.

[BBObsesserxX]

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by BBObsesserxX
You need to make your posts shorter. :sleep: But I don't think that BB will help his politics career. Even though He's not the only one who wants something out of it. Sophie wants it to boost her modelling career, Rodders prolly wants better parts on soaps.
That's fine that they want something out of it, as long as they're not deliberately going out of their way to change themselves and do things. It's just so contrived.

I don't see how Rodders tantrums or Sophie walking around looking like a bit of a dog without make up and her extensions falling out getting fat is going to help either of them further their wanted careers. But I can see very well how Freddie will try to use things he has done to further his political career but it's a LIE. I thought he wanted to change politics but he's just like all of them, sneaky and full of bull

You're full of bull. He couldn't be himself before because he was depressed all the time because the entire house was against him. This is the real Freddie. And dogface doesn't look bad without makeup. And fat??WTF?? Are we looking at the same person?

[arsenalforever]

I'm not his biggest fan but he will win this

[Patrick]

Haha I reckon Every Freddie Fan wont bother reading that **** you wrote

[loomy]

I liked him more when he was depressed

Another thing I don't like about him is the way his fans support him so blindly and refuse to accept any criticism about him

He is not an individual, and he does not want people to be individuals. That was one of my points.

[BBObsesserxX]

Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Haha I reckon Every Freddie Fan wont bother reading that **** you wrote

Didn't get past the second paragraph :laugh:

[BBObsesserxX]

Originally posted by loomy
I liked him more when he was depressed

Another thing I don't like about him is the way his fans support him so blindly and refuse to accept any criticism about him

He is not an individual, and he does not want people to be individuals. That was one of my points.

You liked him better when he was depressed???? :nono:

[kisywisy]

i really don't agree with any of your OP

how can you think that he was thinking about his career when he took the token for the house instead of being selish and taking a prize?? i'd have done the same thing. he was thinking of the house. he was being a team player.

you just don't like him, i get it.

[loomy]

Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Haha I reckon Every Freddie Fan wont bother reading that **** you wrote
I don't care, I needed to get it off my chest

Freddie fans can't accept any criticism of their God anyways

[kisywisy]

Originally posted by ManicWolf
Um.... no, if that's your opinion, then fine, but Freddie is not a twit. He just wants people to be individuals, and there's nothing wrong with that. He's a free spirit, who wants to experience as much of life as posibile, which is something to admire. :thumbs:

[loomy]

Originally posted by BBObsesserxX
Originally posted by loomy
I liked him more when he was depressed

Another thing I don't like about him is the way his fans support him so blindly and refuse to accept any criticism about him

He is not an individual, and he does not want people to be individuals. That was one of my points.

You liked him better when he was depressed???? :nono:
He was less annoying, but on the plus side now that he's not being 'bullied' anymore he doesn't get anywhere near as much airtime

[Shasown]

Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Haha I reckon Every Freddie Fan wont bother reading that **** you wrote

Bit of a shame really because there are some valid points in it

[Celeb_Rehab]

Leave off Freddie!!!

The dude is just happy!!
After weeks of self doubt & being bullied he's just being himself...love him or loathe him.
Personally i think he's funny!
Before in the garden with Bea..he was getting a bit cocky,but it's understandable after the way he was treated & He's hyper after seeing fresh faces etc...
Unlike Lisa & Dr Jerryl & Mr Rodrigo ......the chain smoking moaning backstabbing moaning biatch & The Psychotic Oh know! i have spoiled my opportunity.
They both need slapping with a wet fish!!

[olga]

Originally posted by loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.

And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.

He goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.

And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

I don't understand what people can like about him. He's not eccentric or different,go to any moderately well placed university Text and you will find hoardes of Freddies or variants of Freddies. Rich kids trying to disown their upbringing.

I take it you have heard of Oxford ?:whistle:

[PaulyJ]

Your post Loomy is full of conjecture, and relies on your reading into Freddie's intentions.

I would love to comment on your post but find it hard because everybody reads different things from different Hm's depending upon the readers, agenda, and, stereo types.

Basing your post on fact only would help, if you intend to garner some sort of retraction of support from Freddie supporters, and as your post is obviously lacking in this area, i will politely decline from addressing it on a point by point basis.

The truth is you don't like him as a person

[loomy]

Originally posted by olga
Originally posted by loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.

And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.

He goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.

And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

I don't understand what people can like about him. He's not eccentric or different,go to any moderately well placed university Text and you will find hoardes of Freddies or variants of Freddies. Rich kids trying to disown their upbringing.

I take it you have heard of Oxford ?:whistle:
That was my point - you don't even need to go to a top university to find them. They're everywhere.

[setanta]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
Your post Loomy is full of conjecture, and relies on your reading into Freddie's intentions.

I would love to comment on your post but find it hard because everybody reads different things from different Hm's depending upon the readers, agenda, and, stereo types.

Basing your post on fact only would help, if you intend to garner some sort of retraction of support from Freddie supporters, and as your post is obviously lacking in this area, i will politely decline from addressing it on a point by point basis.

The truth is you don't like him as a person

:thumbs: agree

[loomy]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
Your post Loomy is full of conjecture, and relies on your reading into Freddie's intentions.

I would love to comment on your post but find it hard because everybody reads different things from different Hm's depending upon the readers, agenda, and, stereo types.

Basing your post on fact only would help, if you intend to garner some sort of retraction of support from Freddie supporters, and as your post is obviously lacking in this area, i will politely decline from addressing it on a point by point basis.

The truth is you don't like him as a person
That's not enitrely true - I gave examples of his aggressive behaviour and his desperation to be accepted whilst at the same time spouting all this sheep wolves stuff. He's a hypocrite.

People were quick to read into Kris and Sophie's intentions with their relationship without any substantial proof. Freddie is just more subtle about him.

[The Human Santapede]

Originally posted by kisywisy
i really don't agree with any of your OP

how can you think that he was thinking about his career when he took the token for the house instead of being selish and taking a prize?? i'd have done the same thing. he was thinking of the house. he was being a team player.

you just don't like him, i get it.


He was being a rachel Rice.

We don't need another winner like that. EVER! :nono:

[setanta]

that subtlety has been his only weapon against the harrassment and isolation that he has been forced to endure. he basically beat the bullies at their own game- turned the tide almost singlehandedly without resorting to agression or violence. he should be commended for his behaviour rather than criticised.

[Laruz]

loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.
None of these actions hurt anyone.

So I don't care about his motives.

The rest of what you have said is unevidenced rubbish.

[loomy]

Originally posted by setanta
that subtlety has been his only weapon against the harrassment and isolation that he has been forced to endure. he basically beat the bullies at their own game- turned the tide almost singlehandedly without resorting to agression or violence. he should be commended for his behaviour rather than criticised.
Maybe, I admire him for fighting back but he milked the victim card for all it was worth. He knew his strength was in not getting angry and that he could manipulate the other housemates into looking bad.

He might be a lot of things but he's certainly not stupid. He definitely had a strategy upon going in as they all do but I think his was more closely planned out than the others. He did expect to be picked on he said that he expected to be nominated a lot before he went in because of his personality so he's clearly aware that he is annoying.. or he was being extra annoying so he could be a victim even more.

It's a tried and tested method of gaining support

[loomy]

Originally posted by Laruz
loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.
None of these actions hurt anyone.

So I don't care about his motives.

The rest of what you have said is unevidenced rubbish.
Yes they do!! He represents everything that is wrong with politics!!! I do think he will have a future in it and he will be just the same as all the rest whilst at the same time claiming to be different which is worse.

And actually - the rest of my post was where I used evidence. You just prefer to pretend that saint Freddie's perfect and would rather be blind to his faults.

[WAYNEEBRUM]

Cant be arsed to read your mammoth OP but i like freddie.

[setanta]

you actually think he created that situation for himself in order to come across as a victim and win public favour? that's a ridiculous thing to say. he was targeted from the get go and he never once played the victim card. i admire his bravery and compassion amid all that madness: he was always trying to uncover the truth of the matter and never once resorted to shouting or name calling in the face of such irrational hostility. a lesser man would have been broken. i can't accept any of what you've said there. more power to him for making them look like the prats they are

[BONNEIP]

Freddie was the only one of the seven who put the welfare of the house first. I didn't like him at first now i'm becoming a fan go halfwit, go halfwit.:dance2:

[PaulyJ]

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by PaulyJ
Your post Loomy is full of conjecture, and relies on your reading into Freddie's intentions.

I would love to comment on your post but find it hard because everybody reads different things from different Hm's depending upon the readers, agenda, and, stereo types.

Basing your post on fact only would help, if you intend to garner some sort of retraction of support from Freddie supporters, and as your post is obviously lacking in this area, i will politely decline from addressing it on a point by point basis.

The truth is you don't like him as a person
That's not enitrely true - I gave examples of his aggressive behaviour and his desperation to be accepted whilst at the same time spouting all this sheep wolves stuff. He's a hypocrite.

People were quick to read into Kris and Sophie's intentions with their relationship without any substantial proof. Freddie is just more subtle about him.



The trouble is though what seems like aggression to you, or most who simply don't like him, appears as hard earned confidence to us that do. If you start off from the point of view he has been acting all this time for the camera's then all the bullying didn't happen. Or if it did he had it coming because the Hm's responsible saw his big, fake act. He has no right in feeling confident. That's your position.

As you mentioned the Hide n Seek thing, your view of it was not to criticise Charly or Kris, but to use that incident to knock Freddie, you do this by ignoring the facts i.e

Charly n Kris conspired to fool Freddie into thinking he was part of a game that Charly n Kris new he was the but of a joke.

Choosing to concentrate on what you IMAGINE Freddie's intention is i.e

"So desperate to be liked he went along with it"

Do you think going along with a joke at your expence, can only be due to a desperation to be liked, i will offer you a more likely possibility

He just realised what he was to them, he was embarrassed and wanted to save face by pretending to not care.

You just don't like Freddie i think. But that's no justification to tell others you should not like him either.

[Laruz]

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by Laruz
loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.
None of these actions hurt anyone.

So I don't care about his motives.

The rest of what you have said is unevidenced rubbish.
Yes they do!! He represents everything that is wrong with politics!!! I do think he will have a future in it and he will be just the same as all the rest whilst at the same time claiming to be different which is worse.

And actually - the rest of my post was where I used evidence. You just prefer to pretend that saint Freddie's perfect and would rather be blind to his faults.

I'm sorry, I read opinionated and biased rubbish. I have never seen him aggressive, or seen any reason to believe all his actions involve a convuluted and cunning gameplan. Please show me this evidence you say you invoked.

[loomy]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by PaulyJ
Your post Loomy is full of conjecture, and relies on your reading into Freddie's intentions.

I would love to comment on your post but find it hard because everybody reads different things from different Hm's depending upon the readers, agenda, and, stereo types.

Basing your post on fact only would help, if you intend to garner some sort of retraction of support from Freddie supporters, and as your post is obviously lacking in this area, i will politely decline from addressing it on a point by point basis.

The truth is you don't like him as a person
That's not enitrely true - I gave examples of his aggressive behaviour and his desperation to be accepted whilst at the same time spouting all this sheep wolves stuff. He's a hypocrite.

People were quick to read into Kris and Sophie's intentions with their relationship without any substantial proof. Freddie is just more subtle about him.



The trouble is though what seems like aggression to you, or most who simply don't like him, appears as hard earned confidence to us that do. If you start off from the point of view he has been acting all this time for the camera's then all the bullying didn't happen. Or if it did he had it coming because the Hm's responsible saw his big, fake act. He has no right in feeling confident. That's your position.

As you mentioned the Hide n Seek thing, your view of it was not to criticise Charly or Kris, but to use that incident to knock Freddie, you do this by ignoring the facts i.e

Charly n Kris conspired to fool Freddie into thinking he was part of a game that Charly n Kris new he was the but of a joke.

Choosing to concentrate on what you IMAGINE Freddie's intention is i.e

"So desperate to be liked he went along with it"

Do you think going along with a joke at your expence, can only be due to a desperation to be liked, i will offer you a more likely possibility

He just realised what he was to them, he was embarrassed and wanted to save face by pretending to not care.

You just don't like Freddie i think. But that's no justification to tell others you should not like him either.
Non of the events you have cited were ones I was refering to bar the Rodrigo even which took place the other day. I was talking about things that I've seen on the livefeed at night. I admit, I did like him on the highlights and I still do sometimes.

On the livefeed one night they all pretended to him that they had used a token (they used to do it all the time) and firstly he got really aggressive and properly got right up in Sree's ear and shouted really loudly down it that he hadn't wanted alcohol. It was very unpleasant and aggressive. But then when he realised it was a joke he was just laughing along whilst they were all laughing at him. Fine he wants to save face but it's a bit ironic when he goes on about people being cowards for not standing up for what they believe in, he surely cannot support bullying.

[loomy]

Originally posted by Laruz
Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by Laruz
loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.
None of these actions hurt anyone.

So I don't care about his motives.

The rest of what you have said is unevidenced rubbish.
Yes they do!! He represents everything that is wrong with politics!!! I do think he will have a future in it and he will be just the same as all the rest whilst at the same time claiming to be different which is worse.

And actually - the rest of my post was where I used evidence. You just prefer to pretend that saint Freddie's perfect and would rather be blind to his faults.

I'm sorry, I read opinionated and biased rubbish. I have never seen him aggressive, or seen any reason to believe all his actions involve a convuluted and cunning gameplan. Please show me this evidence you say you invoked.
No I can't because it was on livefeed and stupid channel 4 copyright everything now a days so even if it was on youtube or something we wouldn't be able to watch it

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by BBObsesserxX
You need to make your posts shorter.

HELL NO.
great post I enjoyed it even if I categorically disagree with you. We need more posts like that.

[Laruz]

loomyHe goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.
First of all, Freddie has never inferred that he believes almost everyone is sheep. He has also never inferred nor stated that he believes himself higher than others. That is you inferring that from your ridiculous conclusions of his background.

Secondly, so what is he wants to be accepted and liked? I would wager that most people desire to be liked and accepted by others. I would especially wager that everyone who enters Big Brother would at least secretly like to be accepted by the general public. You are aware of what this show is, right?

Thirdly, your conclusions that he is the biggest schemer and bitch in there do not follow from your complaints.

loomy
And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

First of all, that is an issue with Big Brother's housemate policy - not an issue with Freddie.

Second of all, I'd rather someone ignorant of the show than a vaccous shallow model-a-like coming in there to gurn for 6 weeks.

loomy
And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.
Lol.

Well this is rubbish. I've seen him argue with Sree (15x15) but he was not at all aggressive, only frustrated. I've seen him tell Rodrigo to lighten up, and that's it. I know he has also complained about Rodrigo's sense of humour, but again: that's all I've seen.

[setanta]

that's it? that's all you're giving us to comment on?

[Twilight]

Freddie is not a twit!

"And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool."
All i can say to that is wtf "shouted in Sree's ear" umm Sree was the one shouting same with Rodrigo.

I think you just full of bull:bored:

[PaulyJ]

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by PaulyJ
Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by PaulyJ
Your post Loomy is full of conjecture, and relies on your reading into Freddie's intentions.

I would love to comment on your post but find it hard because everybody reads different things from different Hm's depending upon the readers, agenda, and, stereo types.

Basing your post on fact only would help, if you intend to garner some sort of retraction of support from Freddie supporters, and as your post is obviously lacking in this area, i will politely decline from addressing it on a point by point basis.

The truth is you don't like him as a person
That's not enitrely true - I gave examples of his aggressive behaviour and his desperation to be accepted whilst at the same time spouting all this sheep wolves stuff. He's a hypocrite.

People were quick to read into Kris and Sophie's intentions with their relationship without any substantial proof. Freddie is just more subtle about him.



The trouble is though what seems like aggression to you, or most who simply don't like him, appears as hard earned confidence to us that do. If you start off from the point of view he has been acting all this time for the camera's then all the bullying didn't happen. Or if it did he had it coming because the Hm's responsible saw his big, fake act. He has no right in feeling confident. That's your position.

As you mentioned the Hide n Seek thing, your view of it was not to criticise Charly or Kris, but to use that incident to knock Freddie, you do this by ignoring the facts i.e

Charly n Kris conspired to fool Freddie into thinking he was part of a game that Charly n Kris new he was the but of a joke.

Choosing to concentrate on what you IMAGINE Freddie's intention is i.e

"So desperate to be liked he went along with it"

Do you think going along with a joke at your expence, can only be due to a desperation to be liked, i will offer you a more likely possibility

He just realised what he was to them, he was embarrassed and wanted to save face by pretending to not care.

You just don't like Freddie i think. But that's no justification to tell others you should not like him either.
Non of the events you have cited were ones I was refering to bar the Rodrigo even which took place the other day. I was talking about things that I've seen on the livefeed at night. I admit, I did like him on the highlights and I still do sometimes.

On the livefeed one night they all pretended to him that they had used a token (they used to do it all the time) and firstly he got really aggressive and properly got right up in Sree's ear and shouted really loudly down it that he hadn't wanted alcohol. It was very unpleasant and aggressive. But then when he realised it was a joke he was just laughing along whilst they were all laughing at him. Fine he wants to save face but it's a bit ironic when he goes on about people being cowards for not standing up for what they believe in, he surely cannot support bullying.


I think i remember the night your talking about, i also remember the way he shouted at Siavash during the egg n spoon race. "Siavash you fool" i think he said, but your right that was aggresive, i won't deny it. But i have forgiven him those, because i think they we're two one off's, if i see more i will start to think of him as an aggresive person, but not yet far to soon for me i'm afraid. It took me ages to judge Victor from BB4 or 5 as being agressive. or the Black girl that got removed for threatening Hm's with her "man dem".

As i say Freddie has shown agression

He is not an agressive person in my view.

[CaPPa]

Originally posted by loomy
The guy's a total twit

Possibly, but geeks, nerds and twits are kind of cool.

Anyway, what are we supposed to be admitting? I don't see anything in the OP other than opinion.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.

I think he's very interesting, he mixes a good moral base with some liberal views. Do you really think that his actions in BB will further his political career? The way you put makes it sound like in 10 years time somebody will think "hmm I'll vote for Halfwit because he got a token for the house when he was in BB". I don't think so sonny Jim. Isn't it actually better for a housemate to admit their aspirations rather than have a hidden agenda anyway?

And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.

If you find Halfwit intimidating then you must be easily scared. In the instances that you mention both Sree and Rodrigo were shouting louder than Halfwit was and I doubt that you would find any of the housemates say that he was very intimidating either, annoying yes but not intimidating. He is about as intimidating as candy floss.

He goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.

He never called everyone sheep. He was using the terms sheep, wolf and sheppard to describe how Lisa's group worked. I thought the fact that he figured out Charlie and Kris's joke actually turned it around on them, making them the cringeworthy ones.

As for his need to feel accepted and loved, well who doesn't want that? He wants to be an individual and not follow the pack (Lisa) but he doesn't want to be ostracized for it. Could you go 6 weeks in that house feeling like everyone hated you? How about 6 weeks of Lisa shouting 'shut up' at you? Most would have cracked but Halfwit handled everything incredibly well and really tried to 'build bridges not barriers' even when it was constantly thrown back in his face. It was smart of him to see what was happening so quickly and put people onto Lisa's gang, as otherwise they would have picked everone else off and we'd have been left with Lisa, Karly, Kris, Charlie and Dogface. Halfwit's better than them all though and saved our series! :cheer:

And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

What does it matter if he is a BB fan or not. If only BB fans are allowed to win then they may as well just stick Brian Belo in there every year. That guy eats, sleeps and poops BB.

I don't understand what people can like about him. He's not eccentric or different, go to any moderately well placed university and you will find hoardes of Freddies or variants of Freddies. Rich kids trying to disown their upbringing.

People can like Halfwit because he is a decent guy. The way that he handled himself under the pressure of continual nomination was impressive. His understanding of the dynamics of the house are the best that I have seen since BB5's Victor. He basically seems like an intelligent and good all round person, so if there are hoards of Freddies around England's universitys then the country should do well in the future. :thumbs:

Honestly, you don't have to like Halfwit but it really shouldn't be so difficult for you to understand why other people do like him.

[geisha]

Originally posted by Clockers
Public like him when he was down, and I am happy he is confident.





Exactly.

I am so happy to see him enjoying now. Good for him.

[Jayson]

Kenneth > Freddie

[rsefitpro2009]

The Freddie hate is starting!, in every single Big Brother, the favourite to win starts to get criticised big time.

He is irritating yes, but come on you have to admit that he does make good TV!

I still say Freddie will win this year!, but i am very aware of the Siavash momentum!

[MR.K!]

Urg. Never liked freddie. I hope he goes sooner rather than later.

[rsefitpro2009]

Originally posted by MR.K!
Urg. Never liked freddie. I hope he goes sooner rather than later.

If Freddie ever left,BB would be a bore fest!

[HELLIWONTGO]

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Haha I reckon Every Freddie Fan wont bother reading that **** you wrote
I don't care, I needed to get it off my chest

Freddie fans can't accept any criticism of their God anyways



I say old sport, I discovered this a while ago, if you criticise Half wit, they all turn against you!
It seems to mainly be young girlies, what!
This is why the show is dying!:thumbs:

[Callum.]

He is certainly the most arrogant housemate in there.

[rsefitpro2009]

I can accept criticism of him, im even critical of him! but all im saying is that he makes good TV.

I wouldn't want to share a house with him!, but i thought this was Entertainment TV! so surely we vote for the most entertaining rather than the most boringgg?

Or have i missed a trick somewhere?

[Vladimir]

Originally posted by golden
Originally posted by loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.

And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.

He goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.

And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

I don't understand what people can like about him. He's not eccentric or different, go to any moderately well placed university and you will find hoardes of Freddies or variants of Freddies. Rich kids trying to disown their upbringing.

Amen :hello::hello:

[Chels]

haha.
respect your opinion buddy, but if your trying to provoke a reaction it aint working :wavey:

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by loomy
Originally posted by Laruz
loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.
None of these actions hurt anyone.

So I don't care about his motives.

The rest of what you have said is unevidenced rubbish.
Yes they do!! He represents everything that is wrong with politics!!! I do think he will have a future in it and he will be just the same as all the rest whilst at the same time claiming to be different which is worse.

And actually - the rest of my post was where I used evidence. You just prefer to pretend that saint Freddie's perfect and would rather be blind to his faults.

I agree with a lot of what your saying and what I find fascinating is for someone who quite clearly has a good understanding of social dynamics he seemed to be quite socially inept when he first came in to the house but is less so now....interesting! I think he may well have manipulated the whole situation from the beginning! All he needed was some aggresive numpties to get irritated by him. That said he makes good viewing as someone has mentioned. But I wont be voting for him to win because I think he has been somewhat duplicitous and I could never vote Tory in my life!

[HayleyLeigh]

Originally posted by loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.

And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.

He goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.

And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

I don't understand what people can like about him. He's not eccentric or different, go to any moderately well placed university and you will find hoardes of Freddies or variants of Freddies. Rich kids trying to disown their upbringing.


wow its like u read my mind :thumbs:

[Marzy]

Originally posted by loomy
I liked him more when he was depressed

Another thing I don't like about him is the way his fans support him so blindly and refuse to accept any criticism about him

He is not an individual, and he does not want people to be individuals. That was one of my points.

I know Freddies not perfect, nobody is, including you. And as for you liking him when he was depressed says a lot about you, sad and depressed. Some people dislike happy go lucky people which Freddie is and also the fact that he has money.

[borntorune]

First time poster on here, and why not jump in at the deep end.

I admit, I'm not a huge fan of Lisa. I find it hard to watch someone who does seem to spend an inordinate amount of time smoking and nothing else (and this is from someone who used to smoke, and also understands that boredom will often increase someone's smoking).
I also understand the way that she and Freddie have become anti each other, and yet I'm beginning to find his discussions about her more and more uncomfortable to listen to.

I've often seen him use the tactic of just talking about someone or a situation, and yet with a surprising amount of viciousness, which is not to be confused with animated or passionate. How can someone who uses finger pointing gestures with such vigour be just 'talking'? These aren't gestures just to make a point, but to be 'aggressive' towards another person.

If he was just relaying some information about a situation or conversation with someone, I'd have no problems with him - but all too often he does this with character assassination thrown in for good measure, but because he does it with a smile, or grin, or laugh - he isn't seen as being nasty, and yet it makes me cringe to watch it.

I was beginning to like Freddie, having taken some time to warm to him, but over the last week I'm enjoying his rhetoric less and less, and it is beginning to become vulgar and unnecessary. It doesn't suit or sit well with me listening to him. Yet I can listen to Siavash, who swears like a trooper, because it has always been him and he has never deviated from that. What you see is what you get with Siavash, but with Freddie, he seems more and more like a Chameleon. Just when you think you're seeing the 'real' Freddie, out pops another side of his personality to fit in with the theme for that week.

For someone who professes free love, it's even more shameful to see and totally against the principles he claims to follow.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by borntorune
First time poster on here, and why not jump in at the deep end.

I admit, I'm not a huge fan of Lisa. I find it hard to watch someone who does seem to spend an inordinate amount of time smoking and nothing else (and this is from someone who used to smoke, and also understands that boredom will often increase someone's smoking).
I also understand the way that she and Freddie have become anti each other, and yet I'm beginning to find his discussions about her more and more uncomfortable to listen to.

I've often seen him use the tactic of just talking about someone or a situation, and yet with a surprising amount of viciousness, which is not to be confused with animated or passionate. How can someone who uses finger pointing gestures with such vigour be just 'talking'? These aren't gestures just to make a point, but to be 'aggressive' towards another person.

If he was just relaying some information about a situation or conversation with someone, I'd have no problems with him - but all too often he does this with character assassination thrown in for good measure, but because he does it with a smile, or grin, or laugh - he isn't seen as being nasty, and yet it makes me cringe to watch it.

I was beginning to like Freddie, having taken some time to warm to him, but over the last week I'm enjoying his rhetoric less and less, and it is beginning to become vulgar and unnecessary. It doesn't suit or sit well with me listening to him. Yet I can listen to Siavash, who swears like a trooper, because it has always been him and he has never deviated from that. What you see is what you get with Siavash, but with Freddie, he seems more and more like a Chameleon. Just when you think you're seeing the 'real' Freddie, out pops another side of his personality to fit in with the theme for that week.

For someone who professes free love, it's even more shameful to see and totally against the principles he claims to follow.

Welcome and great post. I agree with you, hes playing a great game, Im finding myself seeing what he does as all part of the game and hes becoming less and less genuine to me. I think he enjoys manipulating situations like when he had a go at Lisa yesterday I thought it was more about asserting the power he has gained than any genuine concern about winning the task. He didnt have the same reaction with Noirin.

[borntorune]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!


Welcome and great post. I agree with you, hes playing a great game, Im finding myself seeing what he does as all part of the game and hes becoming less and less genuine to me. I think he enjoys manipulating situations like when he had a go at Lisa yesterday I thought it was more about asserting the power he has gained than any genuine concern about winning the task. He didnt have the same reaction with Noirin.

Thanks for the welcome.
I admit, I'm normally a little more hesitant to jump in with what I know is a fairly controversial first post on a board, but I've been getting more and more frustrated with Freddie, and it was good to finally write something down.

I admit I hadn't thought about the comments he made, which weren't directed at Noirin, and your absolutely right about that, and for me is another example of how he appears to be manipulating the situations to suit himself and himself only, despite all the prostrations of being a team player.

Team players don't always have to just take the morale high ground, which he seems to want to do constantly.
One prime example is Siavash, who used his token to gain some snacks and drink for the group. That is as much as team player as Freddie implies he is, and yet because it isn't as obvious, people seem to miss it.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by borntorune
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!


Welcome and great post. I agree with you, hes playing a great game, Im finding myself seeing what he does as all part of the game and hes becoming less and less genuine to me. I think he enjoys manipulating situations like when he had a go at Lisa yesterday I thought it was more about asserting the power he has gained than any genuine concern about winning the task. He didnt have the same reaction with Noirin.

Thanks for the welcome.
I admit, I'm normally a little more hesitant to jump in with what I know is a fairly controversial first post on a board, but I've been getting more and more frustrated with Freddie, and it was good to finally write something down.

I admit I hadn't thought about the comments he made, which weren't directed at Noirin, and your absolutely right about that, and for me is another example of how he appears to be manipulating the situations to suit himself and himself only, despite all the prostrations of being a team player.

Team players don't always have to just take the morale high ground, which he seems to want to do constantly.
One prime example is Siavash, who used his token to gain some snacks and drink for the group. That is as much as team player as Freddie implies he is, and yet because it isn't as obvious, people seem to miss it.

yeh agreed Siavash is without doubt a genuine dude. His reactions to situations seem more natural and less contrived than Freddie. Freddie is constantly talking about group dynamics and seems to always have his mind on the "game"

[PaulyJ]

Originally posted by borntorune


I was beginning to like Freddie, having taken some time to warm to him, but over the last week I'm enjoying his rhetoric less and less, and it is beginning to become vulgar and unnecessary. It doesn't suit or sit well with me listening to him. Yet I can listen to Siavash, who swears like a trooper, because it has always been him and he has never deviated from that. What you see is what you get with Siavash, but with Freddie, he seems more and more like a Chameleon. Just when you think you're seeing the 'real' Freddie, out pops another side of his personality to fit in with the theme for that week.

For someone who professes free love, it's even more shameful to see and totally against the principles he claims to follow.

Welcome and indeed a good first post

But just to pick up on the above. I don't think it's fair to compare Freddie and Siavash, for the same reasons you wouldn't compare the personality of your children.

Also, Freddie's personality has been under attack from the word go, it would take a very well developed character to keep persisting and refusing to change/try to improve, your personality in those circumstances. Siavash is well liked in the house, and is socially successful, Freddie is not, it seems your saying Freddie deserves criticism for not sticking to his failing personality. He's only 22 i think and i firmly believe he is learning more about himself and other peole than any one else in the house, and i can't criticise him for that.

I do think he's swinging a little to the other extreme though, he stumbled upon a new attitude during the Bunnygate escapade, and after he met up with Craig, and now believes he should be more dismisive of criticism from people like Lisa, infact i'm not so sure he's swung to far in this regard, but it's the change that people are seeing which makes them think he's acting and i don't agree at all.

[bigbrother10uk]

he is the only fcukin enteraining housmate in their
if it wasnt for him, i dont think i would watch this year
because
it is so bloody boring!

i bet you favorite is lisa
huh?

[Maia]

Originally posted by loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.

And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.

He goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.

And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

I don't understand what people can like about him. He's not eccentric or different, go to any moderately well placed university and you will find hoardes of Freddies or variants of Freddies. Rich kids trying to disown their upbringing.

Totally agree with everything you said there. I don't like Freddie either, he's a joke. He ponces about thinking he's higher up than everyone else when really he needs a major reality check :laugh:

Oh and his accent really ticks me off :tongue:

[geisha]

Originally posted by loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.

And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.

He goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.

And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

I don't understand what people can like about him. He's not eccentric or different, go to any moderately well placed university and you will find hoardes of Freddies or variants of Freddies. Rich kids trying to disown their upbringing.


Your comment was so long and I could not finish reading all, but;

Are you saying that you do not like Freddie then?

[Narc]

I agree, he makes good (ok, ALRIGHT) tele, but like Netto said, never vote Tory, ugh, I couldn't possibly

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Narc
I agree, he makes good (ok, ALRIGHT) tele, but like Netto said, never vote Tory, ugh, I couldn't possibly

:thumbs:

[bbisfun]

Originally posted by loomy
The guy's a total twit

We won't think any less of you for backtracking and saying you don't like him, he pulled the wool over a lot of peoples eyes.

He's just a silly rich boy trying to rebel against his childhood. And you can see everything he does is for the cameras or in the hope of furthering his future political career - like when he encouraged the 'rebellion' or when he selflessly chose to take a token instead of a once in a lifetime gift I could just see him storing it up in his head to use in the future as an example of why he'd be a good politician. He's full of bullshit.

And his language is becoming more and more vulgar each day. He can be very aggressive and intimidating, more so than Lisa I think - like when he shouted in Sree's ear that night or when he shouted at Rodrigo because Rod was angry about them throwing the bathtub in the pool.

He goes on about standing up for what's right and his promiscuity and free love philosophy as though he's so superior because he's not a 'sheep' like the rest of us - he doesn't go along with society. But then juxtaposed with this is his desperate need to be accepted and loved, it's cringeworthy watching him trying to go along with Charlie and co. when they were making a joke out of him but he was so desperate to be accepted he just laughed and went along with it. He's worse than the lot of them. He is the biggest schemer and bitch in there, he has successfully manipulated the whole house against Lisa and co.

And to top it all off he's not even a big brother fan, he has hardly ever watched the series before; it's well know he was spotted by a producer. I'll wager he was just the type of person who would have looked down on the show and its fans.

I don't understand what people can like about him. He's not eccentric or different, go to any moderately well placed university and you will find hoardes of Freddies or variants of Freddies. Rich kids trying to disown their upbringing.

The only change I can see in Halfwit is that his head has got bigger in terms of ego. None the less his still a million times better than Lisa and her dogs.

[Whenyoutouchme]

Edited, Don't post in capital, don't insult other members. - 30stone.