Would an all white, straight, regular house be SO bad?

[IsleOfWeather]

Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:

[NettoSuperstar!]

No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?

[WAYNEEBRUM]

im surprised how many non white non english people have been in this year.

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?

You have no idea what it would be like and it would be a reflection of the majority of viewers

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?

You have no idea what it would be like and it would be a reflection of the majority of viewers

So we should cater to the majority then? And forget about the minority?

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?

You have no idea what it would be like and it would be a reflection of the majority of viewers

So we should cater to the majority then? And forget about the minority?


in this topic i am saying yes and why not?

[AhmedFan2004]

Well not all white/etc, but you're right in that in one respect it should be reflective of general society.

So there's no reason why it shouldn't be predominantly white, range of ages, etc.

Infact, in an ideal world BB would do that; fair auditions, no bias, etc. But it doesn't really work like that. They're looking for fairly specific characters.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?

You have no idea what it would be like and it would be a reflection of the majority of viewers

So we should cater to the majority then? And forget about the minority?


in this topic i am saying yes and why not?

because all too easily throughout history minority groups have had a raw deal and not been recognised, their status diminished etc. Having an all white/straight/majority BB would just reinforce the negative/second class/unimportant image minority groups have had to fight against for years!

[calyman]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
No it would be boring and not a true reflection of the diverse society we live in! Would you prefer it if they were all white and straight?

You have no idea what it would be like and it would be a reflection of the majority of viewers
But it would not be a reflection of ALL viewers. Have you , really thought what the percentage of all minorities add up to? In some places they ARE the majority.

BB at least have this right, we see representative housemates covering all spectrums of minorities; black, Asian, Lesbian, Gay, Disabled and mental health.

The sort of show you profess to like is now consigned to the past. We all live in a multi cultural society.

[Shaun]

Not necessarily, but ethnicity and sexuality shouldn't come into your judgment of Housemates tbh.

[BringBackBB6!]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:

Comments like that make we wish i wasnt white and British

[BringBackBB6!]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:

Comments like that make we wish i wasnt white and British

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by BringBackBB6!
Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:

Comments like that make we wish i wasnt white and British

well just live in your imaginary land then?:bouncy:

[emilslattery]

so black,gay,chinese people etc. arent "regular"


:elephant:

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Shaun
Not necessarily, but ethnicity and sexuality shouldn't come into your judgment of Housemates tbh.
Sounds hunky dory in theory, but in practise they have to regulate things like ethnicity/class/sexuality, etc. Otherwise they could be more blind to it all and end up with 16 black gay housemates. This really wouldn't look good for the show, as you'd imagine.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by BringBackBB6!
Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:

Comments like that make we wish i wasnt white and British


And worryingly OP is rather sad we will never have an all white/straight/"REGULAR" show. Would you like Britain to be the same? would it make you feel more comfortable not to have these irregular types around?

[Rodrigo2Win]

Wasn't BB1 a house filled with ''regular'' folk...wasn't it the most boring one?

[phebes]

what is regular anyway? the words homophobic and racist spring to mind

[Rodrigo2Win]

The OP and people like him have a common problem. They're in a love affair with all things standard, run-of-the-mill and normal, because this is exactly what they are and all their looks/education/personality will ever allow them to be.

It's like, have you noticed how the majority of homophobes are the type of guys that no gay guy would look at twice anyway? And how most racists are the type of people that would get ****ed up by, or have their girl taken by a black guy?

It's all so pitiful that it makes me quite upset for them.

[spitfire]

Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Wasn't BB1 a house filled with ''regular'' folk

No.


Originally posted by Rodrigo2Winwasn't it the most boring one?

No.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Wasn't BB1 a house filled with ''regular'' folk...wasn't it the most boring one?

BB4 was pretty much as "regular" as it gets and that was shite!

[Simone.]

I wouldn't like it.

I prefer the diversity of having people from different cultures & races.

[IsleOfWeather]

regular as in not just desperate to be in

Nuts
Heat
Closer
China Whites


sorry to disappoint those that thought I was looking at an Aryan theme

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
regular as in not just desperate to be in

Nuts
Heat
Closer
China Whites


sorry to disappoint those that thought I was looking at an Aryan theme

well when you say "white/straight/regular"...a reflection of the "majority" of viewers you can see we might think you are a little prejudiced

[JustKaz]

My view is that the point of BB was to see how people of such different personalities interacted, at least going from first BB. It was facinating to watch and contestants were oblivious to any fame coming from being in BB.

We live in a much more multi cultural society, and peoples sexuality is much more accepted, and so we are seeing a wider range of contestants (as it should be) The point of BB is still the same in seeing how people mix and interact, though last few years acceptance also seems to be a factor, but it has been spoilt by many auctioning purely for attempts of fame factor.


I do not agree an all white, straight house would be right, but a BB are picking contestents now that are looking for fame more than anything.

I think BB has taken it toll now, but I wonder how it had worked if they did TV auditions sort of like Xfactor. Let the public choose HM


not sure if I make sense lol

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by NettoSuperstar!
Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Wasn't BB1 a house filled with ''regular'' folk...wasn't it the most boring one?

BB4 was pretty much as "regular" as it gets and that was s****!


BB4 was great and the winner was and still is a really nice guy. you are just jumping on a bandwaggon

[NettoSuperstar!]

I think most people agree that BB4 was the most boring ever!

[AhmedFan2004]

Guys you're being too harsh on the OP.

He is saying that ideally BB should represent Britian, which would mean the majority being white, British and straight.

You have to agree, in theory at least, that's the ideal; it's fair and representative of the UK population.

Your odds, in terms of being a categorized applicant (which inevitably you are to some extent) will be the same no matter what you are.

e.g.) Assuming a proportionate sample of HMs that accurately reflect Great Britian:

10 HMs selected as being associated with a certain type
2 HMs selected as being associated with a certain type

etc.

But of course, with the 10 HMs chosen, they had to battle with 5 x the no. of applicants as the 2 chosen HMs from the second type.

Because whether you like or not, there is a strong degree of 1-D selection in BB applicants. They WILL see you firstly and primarily as e.g.) a black, gay, posh person, if those are characteristics of yours.

[NettoSuperstar!]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Guys you're being too harsh on the OP.

He is saying that ideally BB should represent Britian, which would mean the majority being white, British and straight.

You have to agree, in theory at least, that's the ideal; it's fair and representative of the UK population.

Your odds, in terms of being a categorized applicant (which inevitably you are to some extent) will be the same no matter what you are.

e.g.) Assuming a proportionate sample of HMs that accurately reflect Great Britian:

10 HMs selected as being associated with a certain type
2 HMs selected as being associated with a certain type

etc.

But of course, with the 10 HMs chosen, they had to battle with 5 x the no. of applicants as the 2 chosen HMs from the second type.

Because whether you like or not, there is a strong degree of 1-D selection in BB applicants. They WILL see you firstly and primarily as e.g.) a black, gay, posh person, if those are characteristics of yours.

He used the word "ALL"

[Rodrigo2Win]

Everyone's perception of ''regular'' is different. For instance, you probably look at Marcus or Maxwell and think of them as regular, but I think they were both mental, scummy members of the underclass...

Basically, what you're asking for is for BB to delegate a series with housemates all sharing loads in common with yourself. Sorry buddy, but you're too insignificant to ever see that happen.

[DoM-h]

Arent Marcus and Kris white straight men?

[Marc]

What the hell? This thread is wrong lol

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Everyone's perception of ''regular'' is different. For instance, you probably look at Marcus or Maxwell and think of them as regular, but I think they were both mental, scummy members of the underclass...

Basically, what you're asking for is for BB to delegate a series with housemates all sharing loads in common with yourself. Sorry buddy, but you're too insignificant to ever see that happen.


No (and you are not following the thread) I am stating a fact that the vast majority of the BB audience (90 odd percent) are white, straight, British and have no desire to become a z-lister.

why not reflect that in the house?

[McNab]

LOL the white englishmen is the minority in England nowsdays.

Mark my words the way the government is running our country by 2020 the white englishmen will be the old one out.

I'mnot racist in any way im just pointing out fact that everyone if their eyes were open would see.

[Rodrigo2Win]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather



No (and you are not following the thread) I am stating a fact that the vast majority of the BB audience (90 odd percent) are white, straight, British and have no desire to become a z-lister.

why not reflect that in the house?


How on earth do you know? :laugh2:

[JustKaz]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Everyone's perception of ''regular'' is different. For instance, you probably look at Marcus or Maxwell and think of them as regular, but I think they were both mental, scummy members of the underclass...

Basically, what you're asking for is for BB to delegate a series with housemates all sharing loads in common with yourself. Sorry buddy, but you're too insignificant to ever see that happen.


No (and you are not following the thread) I am stating a fact that the vast majority of the BB audience (90 odd percent) are white, straight, British and have no desire to become a z-lister.

why not reflect that in the house?


90% of audience? where are these figures from exactly?

[IsleOfWeather]

just reflecting the UK population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British

[AhmedFan2004]

On a surface level with regards to the applicants, there is always going to be some degree of regulation with regards to the types of HMs chosen.

They are always gonna need some minorities, sufficient numbers of white and/or British people, mixture of people with differing sexuality, some hot girls, etc. They will always be selecting a cast.

You're basically, to a large extent, auditioning for a certain role in the show. You might not be totally clued up on what that role is, or how closely you are going to fit that role. But that's what you're doing.

You aren't really applying as an individual, but as a categorized person. If you're a hot blonde b*tchy chick, then you will be (aware of it or not) applying for a role set by BB, which most closely resembles that.

It isn't really 'well this girl is cooler than that girl, so we'll take her, even though we've already chosen 3 other girls very similar to her.'

As Marcus said, you get on via fulfilling a 1-D role that BB were looking for. You probably aren't all that special, fascinating or unique; unless that's a component of the role you were chosen for.

The only key difference is; unlike with actors, you are pretty much that role by default and thus can just be yourself. Actors have to mould themselves into the appropriate character to play that role. But Karly will just need to be herself, Freddie as himself, etc. The character setting is automatic for BB HMs.

[Rodrigo2Win]

Originally posted by JustKaz



90% of audience? where are these figures from exactly?


About 60% of the population are white and straight, yet he thinks 90% of the BB audience is white and straight. :laugh3:

This guy's just embarrassingly thick...it's not his fault. :laugh2:

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Originally posted by JustKaz



90% of audience? where are these figures from exactly?


About 60% of the population are white and straight, yet he thinks 90% of the BB audience is white and straight. :laugh3:

This guy's just embarrassingly thick...it's not his fault. :laugh2:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British

In 2005 the Dept. Of Trade and Industry, trying to assess the impact of the New Civil Partnership Act, and reviewing various surveys, produced an estimate that 6% of the general population could reliably be identified as gay.

[ManicWolf]

Oh come one, BB4 was easily the worst of them all, even the BB producers don't like to talk about it! Ironically, the only interesting bit in it was the swap over of a housemate with Africa.:laugh:

BB10 is shaping up to be my favourite BB ever, and I'm pretty sure that has to do with the diversity of race and sexuality which bring more interesting people, rather than just white and straight, which I have nothing against obviously, but would get very boring.

The world is a diverse place, that's what makes it interesting, and BB should reflect that, and has done so very well this year.

[cassieparis]

Oh Dear no Marcus HUNTING Noirin ..... how dull
No Roderigo subliminating his passion with anger .......how dull
No Scree screaming for Ice Cream ..... very dulll
No Lisa ... a woman scorned venegeful over her loss of her one true love.. Noirin how very dull
None of Benezair's street talk I'm in danger of repeating myself .......very very dull :shrug:

[JustKaz]

Originally posted by ManicWolf
Oh come one, BB4 was easily the worst of them all, even the BB producers don't like to talk about it! Ironically, the only interesting bit in it was the swap over of a housemate with Africa.:laugh:

BB10 is shaping up to be my favourite BB ever, and I'm pretty sure that has to do with the diversity of race and sexuality which bring more interesting people, rather than just white and straight, which I have nothing against obviously, but would get very boring.

The world is a diverse place, that's what makes it interesting, and BB should reflect that, and has done so very well this year.


Agree, Strangest thing here is I'm a quite a BB fan yet I didn't really watch BB4 YET! a girl I was in school was in that show Lisa, and it still didn't intrigue me to watch it (poor girl was well slated and undeserving too I may add)

I'm not sure why the OP thought his/her thoughts would be good, but it certainly turn out to be a good subject of discussion.

[HELLIWONTGO]

No matter what anyones viewpoint on the house mates or future h/mates, the show is not attracting the audiences it used to, I personally think it is turning into a freakshow, white and black, it needs serious work on it if it is to survive much longer!
Lisa yelling like a drunken chav does not attract viewers!

[IsleOfWeather]

I do think that rather than sit all day bored that they should at least learn something. Basic geography would be good for them all

[JustKaz]

Originally posted by HELLIWONTGO
No matter what anyones viewpoint on the house mates or future h/mates, the show is not attracting the audiences it used to, I personally think it is turning into a freakshow, white and black, it needs serious work on it if it is to survive much longer!
Lisa yelling like a drunken chav does not attract viewers!

I thought that this would be the last BB contract ending? However, if there are to be more shows, do you think it be good if public choose HM via their VT or something would be good idea? A program a couple of months before show where we get chance to choose them, or selection that producers then choose from. This way public are involved from onset.

[ange7]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Originally posted by JustKaz



90% of audience? where are these figures from exactly?


About 60% of the population are white and straight, yet he thinks 90% of the BB audience is white and straight. :laugh3:

This guy's just embarrassingly thick...it's not his fault. :laugh2:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British

In 2005 the Dept. Of Trade and Industry, trying to assess the impact of the New Civil Partnership Act, and reviewing various surveys, produced an estimate that 6% of the general population could reliably be identified as gay.
straight 90%
white 85%
straight AND white = 90% times 85%
= 75.6%
Not that it moves the argument forward at all.
Producers will pick hm who are in one way or another extreme. Picking a house full of "average" hms wouldn't be that entertaining. I couldn't care who they get in there as long as they're fun to watch. eg Sophie/kris were rubbish to watch... not because they were straight and white but because they were a bore.

[IsleOfWeather]

Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Originally posted by JustKaz



90% of audience? where are these figures from exactly?


About 60% of the population are white and straight, yet he thinks 90% of the BB audience is white and straight. :laugh3:

This guy's just embarrassingly thick...it's not his fault. :laugh2:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British

In 2005 the Dept. Of Trade and Industry, trying to assess the impact of the New Civil Partnership Act, and reviewing various surveys, produced an estimate that 6% of the general population could reliably be identified as gay.
straight 90%
white 85%
straight AND white = 94% times 85%
= 79%
Not that it moves the argument forward at all.
Producers will pick hm who are in one way or another extreme. Picking a house full of "average" hms wouldn't be that entertaining. I couldn't care who they get in there as long as they're fun to watch. eg Sophie/kris were rubbish to watch... not because they were straight and white but because they were a bore.


but it is the extreme ones that they pick that always turn out to be the dullest ?

like Lisa and Angel for example

[The_Dark_Wozzy]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Guys you're being too harsh on the OP.

He is saying that ideally BB should represent Britian, which would mean the majority being white, British and straight.

You have to agree, in theory at least, that's the ideal; it's fair and representative of the UK population.

Your odds, in terms of being a categorized applicant (which inevitably you are to some extent) will be the same no matter what you are.

e.g.) Assuming a proportionate sample of HMs that accurately reflect Great Britian:

10 HMs selected as being associated with a certain type
2 HMs selected as being associated with a certain type

etc.

But of course, with the 10 HMs chosen, they had to battle with 5 x the no. of applicants as the 2 chosen HMs from the second type.

Because whether you like or not, there is a strong degree of 1-D selection in BB applicants. They WILL see you firstly and primarily as e.g.) a black, gay, posh person, if those are characteristics of yours.
No, it is not. I know more ethnic people that watch then white people.

[calyman]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Everyone's perception of ''regular'' is different. For instance, you probably look at Marcus or Maxwell and think of them as regular, but I think they were both mental, scummy members of the underclass...

Basically, what you're asking for is for BB to delegate a series with housemates all sharing loads in common with yourself. Sorry buddy, but you're too insignificant to ever see that happen.


No (and you are not following the thread) I am stating a fact that the vast majority of the BB audience (90 odd percent) are white, straight, British and have no desire to become a z-lister.

why not reflect that in the house?

I think you need to brush of on the zeitgeist buddy. "White,straight,British" stopped being such a large percentage of the population many years ago. If I was to gues, I'd say that the group you mention is closer to 55 - 70 percent of the population. That means at least 1 in 3 people fall outside your category of what is "normal"

[ange7]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by ange7
Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Originally posted by Rodrigo2Win
Originally posted by JustKaz



90% of audience? where are these figures from exactly?


About 60% of the population are white and straight, yet he thinks 90% of the BB audience is white and straight. :laugh3:

This guy's just embarrassingly thick...it's not his fault. :laugh2:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_British

In 2005 the Dept. Of Trade and Industry, trying to assess the impact of the New Civil Partnership Act, and reviewing various surveys, produced an estimate that 6% of the general population could reliably be identified as gay.
straight 90%
white 85%
straight AND white = 94% times 85%
= 79%
Not that it moves the argument forward at all.
Producers will pick hm who are in one way or another extreme. Picking a house full of "average" hms wouldn't be that entertaining. I couldn't care who they get in there as long as they're fun to watch. eg Sophie/kris were rubbish to watch... not because they were straight and white but because they were a bore.


but it is the extreme ones that they pick that always turn out to be the dullest ?

like Lisa and Angel for example
dude lol don't edit people's posts in replies.

re Lisa and Angel ... nah ... they mixed it up and got involved. Love'm or hate them they did stuff. Had you mentioned Rod then I'd agree

[IsleOfWeather]

it would appear that you have not read the thread?^^^^^^

:spin2:

[ange7]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
it would appear that you have not read the thread?^^^^^^

:spin2:
lol I wish...
90-10 is universally agreed.

[CaraRawr]

I think it would be boring personally, but there has been alot of foriegners this year... :|

[Chuckyegg]

what a depressing thread

[Clockers]

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
Would a BB house made up of white, British, straight, regular folk aged 18-60 be a bad house?

ie one made up of the majority of viewers?


I guess we will never know:sad:

As the UK is multicultural society made of all races, religons and people with sexual prefrences, I think having a right wing house is not right.

[HuxleyPig]

I'm sorry but I don't buy into the fact that all the housemate slots should be reserved for the white, straight, etc people of Britain. I think it's clear that you fit this discription, and have very badly disguised you prejudices.

Why should black, gay etc people be excluded from the programme? Do you really think 90% of the viewing figures fit exactly your category? The show is now getting viewers around the 2 million mark, and the majority of this audience, from what I gather is females and gay men. (I know there are exceptions to this, obviously, I'm not quite as blind as the opening poster).

So, where you pulled that figure from is anyones guess. In fact, it quite literally was anyones guess.

Why shouldn't disabled or people from different countries or people with a different sexuality to yours be eligable to go in? We have heard that you think they should be left out of the show, what we haven't heard is why you think this. Asides from the obvious prejudices.

[/end rant]

[Rodrigo2Win]

Originally posted by HuxleyPig
I'm sorry but I don't buy into the fact that all the housemate slots should be reserved for the white, straight, etc people of Britain. I think it's clear that you fit this discription, and have very badly disguised you prejudices.

Why should black, gay etc people be excluded from the programme? Do you really think 90% of the viewing figures fit exactly your category? The show is now getting viewers around the 2 million mark, and the majority of this audience, from what I gather is females and gay men. (I know there are exceptions to this, obviously, I'm not quite as blind as the opening poster).

So, where you pulled that figure from is anyones guess. In fact, it quite literally was anyones guess.

Why shouldn't disabled or people from different countries or people with a different sexuality to yours be eligable to go in? We have heard that you think they should be left out of the show, what we haven't heard is why you think this. Asides from the obvious prejudices.

[/end rant]

:dance2:

[JoMaAlArGuMa09]

Originally posted by HuxleyPig
I'm sorry but I don't buy into the fact that all the housemate slots should be reserved for the white, straight, etc people of Britain. I think it's clear that you fit this discription, and have very badly disguised you prejudices.

Why should black, gay etc people be excluded from the programme? Do you really think 90% of the viewing figures fit exactly your category? The show is now getting viewers around the 2 million mark, and the majority of this audience, from what I gather is females and gay men. (I know there are exceptions to this, obviously, I'm not quite as blind as the opening poster).

So, where you pulled that figure from is anyones guess. In fact, it quite literally was anyones guess.

Why shouldn't disabled or people from different countries or people with a different sexuality to yours be eligable to go in? We have heard that you think they should be left out of the show, what we haven't heard is why you think this. Asides from the obvious prejudices.

[/end rant]

:dance2: well said ! woot woot !

[HuxleyPig]

Lol, thankyou.
I just get so wound up with this kind of ignorance.

To quote Karly, the opening poster is a 'vile, disgusting pag'
=P

[Rodrigo2Win]

Hahahah. That he is.

[JoMaAlArGuMa09]

no problem !!

and lol

[MargeryFan]

Im pretty sure there have been more white housemates than any other kind since BB started but of course thats not enough for you. If you can't tolerate an enviroment that has people who are different to you in it then it sounds like your the one that needs to change not big brother.

[CallumJoshuaSturt]

Well, the things is there have bben some regular poeple, Kris was just a normal lad really

+


I don't like the fact you put whilte as 'Normal'

[Benjamin]

I couldn't give a flying toss what their race, gender, age, sexuality is.


As long as they are entertaining then that's all I need.

[Fangz]

So you're saying that white straight people prefer to watch white straight people on TV?

[Alf]

Originally posted by Shaun
Not necessarily, but ethnicity and sexuality shouldn't come into your judgment of Housemates tbh.
but it does come in to the judgement of the bb selection process

[tentpeg]

It's a difficult one, this. They have obviously tried to introduce us to people that in our lives we would nevert normally come into contact with. Ok so you may meet a Russian mid 30's lesbian boxer at your workplace, but the chances are slim. I guess we all like to think we are different, even us white middle class English folk...

[BBUK4LYFE]

Originally posted by phebes
what is regular anyway? the words homophobic and racist spring to mind