Tom: What An Utter Twat [Archive] - ThisisBigBrother.com

19-07-2009, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by setanta
oh i don't begrudge him a good body.... just think its obsessive when you get to the stage he's gotten to. that kinda body is only achieved through hours and hours in gym each day plus the odd dose of steroids- think he's an addict

Do we know he's used steroids. He says he not a clubber. Perhaps he prefers the gym. Lots of them in there are obsessed with their looks one way or another

setanta

19-07-2009, 10:55 AM

i've never drew any comparison between him and the other contestants. just kinda think that he's gone overboard with the muscles..... bodybuilders become addicted to it. i think it's an obsessive thing for him.

Daffodil

19-07-2009, 11:19 AM

Will be funny to see him maintaining his muscles working out, while Marcus watches :)

RAS

19-07-2009, 11:32 AM

So people who go to the gym and look after their body are t**ts?....I think not.

Stephen927

19-07-2009, 11:35 AM

Weightlifting is a hobby.. I don't think his muscles look particularly good but fair enough if thats what he wants to do with his spare time.

30stone

19-07-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by RAS
So people who go to the gym and look after their body are t**ts?....I think not.

Exactly.
People usually do it so they are happy about their body, usually its nothing to do with anyone else.

And funny how most of the the people who dont like him are just eh?

Little jealousy there?

He has good genetics to does Tom.

DrunkerThanMoses

19-07-2009, 11:37 AM

I disliked him from the start... like i did with Kris and Lisa.. and look how they turned out!

Josy

19-07-2009, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by superfanno1
Anyone who spends that much time on their body and is not also an olympic athlete is quite simply a vain t***.

He looks utterly ridiculous...like someone has pumped him full of air. Dull, predictable, vain, self-obsessed bore.

FFS the guy wanted to play professional rugby but got an injury in his back!!!!, he probably likes to look after himself by eating a good diet going to the gym etc LIKE MOST PEOPLE DO, why does that make him vain or obnoxious? i think you need to get of your high horse and stop judging people so harshly when you know f all about them.

suttin

19-07-2009, 11:43 AM

you dont get that big/ripped without doing a few cycles of steroids. Fact.
His body tho...his choice.

RAS

19-07-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by suttin
you dont get that big/ripped without doing a few cycles of steroids. Fact.
His body tho...his choice.

It is possible to get that big/ripped without steroids.

At the same time it is likely that Tom has done a few cycles.

setanta

19-07-2009, 11:48 AM

i don't dislike him...don't think anything about him yet. just think it's a bit too much on the muscle front unless he's competing for some prize. that kinda build requires hours each day in the gym... hours and hours. that's a bit obsessive. everything in moderation.

Speedy

19-07-2009, 11:50 AM

Sounds like a hell of a lot of jealous people hear. It takes dedication to get a body like that, unlike Dogface who pays a surgeon 10k to shove them in.

30stone

19-07-2009, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by suttin
you dont get that big/ripped without doing a few cycles of steroids. Fact.
His body tho...his choice.
Yeah id conceed that he has probably done gear before.

Not a problem though, like you said, his body..

setanta

19-07-2009, 11:59 AM

he's a heart attack waiting to happen when he gets a bit older. that's the worry. everything in moderation.... toned and strong is good but he's overdone it

RAS

19-07-2009, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by setanta
he's a heart attack waiting to happen when he gets a bit older. that's the worry. everything in moderation.... toned and strong is good but he's overdone it

Being fat and having a **** diet = heart attack waiting to happen.

Being "toned and strong" does not = heart attack waiting to happen.

Robertocarlo

19-07-2009, 12:02 PM

A delicious man in my eyes. I like him, not just the body but he appears to be a genuinely nice bloke to me.:tongue:

30stone

19-07-2009, 12:04 PM

People always talk like they know everything about weightlifting and steroids.
When they have done neither. :sleep:

setanta

19-07-2009, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by RAS
Originally posted by setanta
he's a heart attack waiting to happen when he gets a bit older. that's the worry. everything in moderation.... toned and strong is good but he's overdone it

Being fat and having a **** diet = heart attack waiting to happen.

Being "toned and strong" does not = heart attack waiting to happen.

its a well known fact that body builders suffer from weak hearts as they get older, due to the stress that that much added weight puts on them.

HELLIWONTGO

19-07-2009, 12:05 PM

who cares about a heart attack?
We all got to go one day better that than of old age pizzing himself and dribbling!

30stone

19-07-2009, 12:06 PM

RAS

19-07-2009, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by 30stone
People always talk like they know everything about weightlifting and steroids.
When they have done neither. :sleep:

Touche!

PaulyJ

19-07-2009, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by RAS
Originally posted by setanta
he's a heart attack waiting to happen when he gets a bit older. that's the worry. everything in moderation.... toned and strong is good but he's overdone it

Being fat and having a **** diet = heart attack waiting to happen.

Being "toned and strong" does not = heart attack waiting to happen.

its a well known fact that body builders suffer from weak hearts as they get older, due to the stress that that much added weight puts on them.

Your talking out ya arse, though really, aren't you come on admit it?

I mean if you compair a Bbuilder to the average British Male, he's got a great chance of living longer due to his diet, and his exercise recheem. Putting pressure on your heart is what make's a person's heart strong not week. or else would we not all be sitting on our arses watching telly all day, so's not to pressure the old ticker. Oh that's right most people do sit on their arses, getting all agreaved at people like Tom and his fit inshape, body. Naughty Tom.

Mutteroo

19-07-2009, 12:16 PM

So far his muscles appear massively bigger than his personality. Hope there is more to him but he's playing his cards so close to his inflated chest that it's impossible to see them.

Chuckyegg

19-07-2009, 12:19 PM

he's taking something that's made him look 41

Caramel77

19-07-2009, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by RAS
So people who go to the gym and look after their body are t**ts?....I think not.

I agree, if he wants to exercise till kingdom come, I say let him! If his personality is S*** then yes let's call him a t**t.

OP- don't hate, appreciate....:tongue:

setanta

19-07-2009, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by PaulyJ
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by RAS
Originally posted by setanta
he's a heart attack waiting to happen when he gets a bit older. that's the worry. everything in moderation.... toned and strong is good but he's overdone it

Being fat and having a **** diet = heart attack waiting to happen.

Being "toned and strong" does not = heart attack waiting to happen.

its a well known fact that body builders suffer from weak hearts as they get older, due to the stress that that much added weight puts on them.

Your talking out ya arse, though really, aren't you come on admit it?

I mean if you compair a Bbuilder to the average British Male, he's got a great chance of living longer due to his diet, and his exercise recheem. Putting pressure on your heart is what make's a person's heart strong not week. or else would we not all be sitting on our arses watching telly all day, so's not to pressure the old ticker. Oh that's right most people do sit on their arses, getting all agreaved at people like Tom and his fit inshape, body. Naughty Tom.

there's a huge difference between exercising and keeping fit to purposely putting on more and more weight through weights. it has to be in moderation otherwise you most definitely put added pressure on ur heart.

i never compared him to your average joe- i'm just saying that the facts are there about weighlifters and premature death due to heart failure. as you get older that added weight is bound to cause problems..... muscle is far more dense than fat..... weighs more.

Prole

19-07-2009, 12:36 PM

Wow... there's a lot of hate being directed at Tom because he's got a great body. I don't think he's the sharpest pencil in the box, but If he wants to stand in the gym for three hours every day I'm perfectly happy to look at the results of that. And as for all the "experts" on here spouting doom and death... you're funny. There's Dogface with plastic implants sewn into her t1ts, talking about getting botox while eating processed sugar from the bowl with a spoon and you're worried about Tom!! Hilarious...

setanta

19-07-2009, 12:40 PM

i'm not worrying about him.... i'm just saying that he doesn't do it just to keep fit- there's major vanity and obsessional behaviour involved with that kind of body building. do you realise what kinda stuff he has to ingest everyday to grow like that? puts huge strain on the heart and it'll catch up with him. i'm all for staying fit and healthy but it has to be in moderation.

IsleOfWeather

19-07-2009, 12:45 PM

If people like him, sophie and karly invested the money and time on educating themselves just think what interesting peeps they could be?

Chels

19-07-2009, 12:46 PM

do not diss the tom! :nono:
he is a god. :love:

Robertocarlo

19-07-2009, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Chels.x
do not diss the tom! :nono:
he is a god. :love:

I 100% agree. Tom for God!:thumbs:

Wilton_Shagpile

19-07-2009, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by ViaVerde
Wow... there's a lot of hate being directed at Tom because he's got a great body. I don't think he's the sharpest pencil in the box, but If he wants to stand in the gym for three hours every day I'm perfectly happy to look at the results of that. And as for all the "experts" on here spouting doom and death... you're funny. There's Dogface with plastic implants sewn into her t1ts, talking about getting botox while eating processed sugar from the bowl with a spoon and you're worried about Tom!! Hilarious...
Well said:hello:
He's a fit bloke through hard work and healthy eating...good luck to him.
At least everything about him is real.
I haven't heard any worries about Dogfaces back problems that will come any day through her out of proportion implants.

Prole

19-07-2009, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
If people like him, sophie and karly invested the money and time on educating themselves just think what interesting peeps they could be?

To be honest, I think comparing Tom's education and intellect with Sophie and Karly is a little rich. He's obviously had a good education. What's more he's probably forgotten more about nurtrition and diet than most "experts" on this page will ever know.

setanta

19-07-2009, 01:22 PM

i'm not an expert but i know that these guys don't do it for their health.... it's a vanity project for them, nothing more, nothing less. he's pumping himself full of stuff to achieve that kinda body and it'll harm him in the long run. it's a known fact.... bodybuilders even accept this- that their health will go bad later on in life. so no, he's not doing it just for his fitness and health..... that's fairly obvious

HellShark

19-07-2009, 01:25 PM

****ing noodles in this topic.

King Gizzard

19-07-2009, 01:36 PM

I can't believe people are making judgements on him already. Only an hour of HL and one night of live feed. jesus.

30stone

19-07-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by ViaVerde
Wow... there's a lot of hate being directed at Tom because he's got a great body. I don't think he's the sharpest pencil in the box, but If he wants to stand in the gym for three hours every day I'm perfectly happy to look at the results of that. And as for all the "experts" on here spouting doom and death... you're funny. There's Dogface with plastic implants sewn into her t1ts, talking about getting botox while eating processed sugar from the bowl with a spoon and you're worried about Tom!! Hilarious...

Thats is spot on mate.
He puts in the effort why should people hate on him for it.
Its very hard to get the same and shape he is.

AhmedFan2004

19-07-2009, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by kittycat
i think his body is his and its his choice weather he wants huge muscles or not an its probably a plus for him cause hes prob really healthy im not gonna judge him on the fact that he has muscles
^^^

This

AhmedFan2004

19-07-2009, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by josycee
FFS the guy wanted to play professional rugby but got an injury in his back!!!!, he probably likes to look after himself by eating a good diet going to the gym etc LIKE MOST PEOPLE DO, why does that make him vain or obnoxious? i think you need to get of your high horse and stop judging people so harshly when you know f all about them.
^^^ And this.

No doubt the OP is a lazy idiot with no brain and a crap body. Haters are always completely at the reverse end to the ones they hate.

30stone

19-07-2009, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by josycee
FFS the guy wanted to play professional rugby but got an injury in his back!!!!, he probably likes to look after himself by eating a good diet going to the gym etc LIKE MOST PEOPLE DO, why does that make him vain or obnoxious? i think you need to get of your high horse and stop judging people so harshly when you know f all about them.
^^^ And this.

No doubt the OP is a lazy idiot with no brain and a cr*p body. Haters are always completely at the reverse end to the ones they hate.

Spot on.

Most people wont admit they are jealous to lol

WAYNEEBRUM

19-07-2009, 01:42 PM

some jealous lads ere i think,not just girls who hate hms cuz of looks.

WAYNEEBRUM

19-07-2009, 01:43 PM

some jealous lads ere i think,not just girls who hate hms cuz of looks.

AhmedFan2004

19-07-2009, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by 30stone
People always talk like they know everything
And this.

That's the travesty in everyone 'having an opinion' and 'giving their point of view'.

Would you want 'opinions' for a maths problem? Well no, there's only one answer.

Same with life. We have the social context, so everything within that has a correct answer.

Opinions mean little, ultimately it's the correct answer that counts.

And from 1 hour of HLs and a bit of LF, the stuff spouted in this thread is BS. Nobody knows him, yet they are writing biographies on him.

LOL. :rolleyes:

DiamondDogTags

19-07-2009, 01:46 PM

I think Tom is okay, don't find him good looking though which is ashame girls win this year on the looks category. I'm sort of glad they put him in not really for him but to compete with Marcus for alpha male role.. :dance:

setanta

19-07-2009, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by josycee
FFS the guy wanted to play professional rugby but got an injury in his back!!!!, he probably likes to look after himself by eating a good diet going to the gym etc LIKE MOST PEOPLE DO, why does that make him vain or obnoxious? i think you need to get of your high horse and stop judging people so harshly when you know f all about them.
^^^ And this.

No doubt the OP is a lazy idiot with no brain and a cr*p body. Haters are always completely at the reverse end to the ones they hate.

Spot on.

Most people wont admit they are jealous to lol

go through all my comments and you will never see any form of jealousy or criticism of the guys personality. i was merely suggesting that his fitness regime is just a vanity project and his health will suffer the consequences later on in life.... a body like that can only last so long.

King Gizzard

19-07-2009, 01:50 PM

So what? Its his life choice. Maybe he wants to look good whats wrong with that.

AhmedFan2004

19-07-2009, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by Hewman
So what? Its his life choice. Maybe he wants to look good whats wrong with that.
Nothing, he looks fantastic. You know you're doing well when you already have a set of haters, despite them seeing you for like 1 hour on TV.

30stone

19-07-2009, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by josycee
FFS the guy wanted to play professional rugby but got an injury in his back!!!!, he probably likes to look after himself by eating a good diet going to the gym etc LIKE MOST PEOPLE DO, why does that make him vain or obnoxious? i think you need to get of your high horse and stop judging people so harshly when you know f all about them.
^^^ And this.

No doubt the OP is a lazy idiot with no brain and a cr*p body. Haters are always completely at the reverse end to the ones they hate.

Spot on.

Most people wont admit they are jealous to lol

go through all my comments and you will never see any form of jealousy or criticism of the guys personality. i was merely suggesting that his fitness regime is just a vanity project and his health will suffer the consequences later on in life.... a body like that can only last so long.

I didnt mention names i meant some people.

And its not a usual vanity project for others, its for him to be happy with his body, most weightlifters will say its for themselves...

And yeh his body will be fine going on until his 60's possibly 70's

setanta

19-07-2009, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by setanta
Originally posted by 30stone
Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by josycee
FFS the guy wanted to play professional rugby but got an injury in his back!!!!, he probably likes to look after himself by eating a good diet going to the gym etc LIKE MOST PEOPLE DO, why does that make him vain or obnoxious? i think you need to get of your high horse and stop judging people so harshly when you know f all about them.
^^^ And this.

No doubt the OP is a lazy idiot with no brain and a cr*p body. Haters are always completely at the reverse end to the ones they hate.

Spot on.

Most people wont admit they are jealous to lol

go through all my comments and you will never see any form of jealousy or criticism of the guys personality. i was merely suggesting that his fitness regime is just a vanity project and his health will suffer the consequences later on in life.... a body like that can only last so long.

I didnt mention names i meant some people.

And its not a usual vanity project for others, its for him to be happy with his body, most weightlifters will say its for themselves...

And yeh his body will be fine going on until his 60's possibly 70's

look, you know as well as i do that he's putting a severe amount of food as well as other stuff into himself to achieve that kinda body. that is going to have an impact on him later on in life: if he lasts as long as you say he'll be in the bits..... arthritis, heart condition... u name it. it's just overkill in my eyes

IsleOfWeather

19-07-2009, 02:14 PM

"It's definitely the latter for 27-year-old Tom, who loves his 'posh boy' status and reckons that women lap up his upper crust tones. However, guys tend to take the mickey out of him and he is often aggrieved by people labelling him as arrogant.

Tim has had to deal with some heartache in his life, as his dream of playing professional rugby was cruelly curtailed by a severe back injury at university. Currently single, he still idealises an ex girlfriend who broke his heart three years ago and is a bit bemused that older women often take a shine to him."

the ^^above from his channel 4 profile - they called him Tim and Tom - is that because he is a bi-sexual?

Chels

19-07-2009, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by IsleOfWeather
"It's definitely the latter for 27-year-old Tom, who loves his 'posh boy' status and reckons that women lap up his upper crust tones. However, guys tend to take the mickey out of him and he is often aggrieved by people labelling him as arrogant.

Tim has had to deal with some heartache in his life, as his dream of playing professional rugby was cruelly curtailed by a severe back injury at university. Currently single, he still idealises an ex girlfriend who broke his heart three years ago and is a bit bemused that older women often take a shine to him."

the ^^above from his channel 4 profile - they called him Tim and Tom - is that because he is a bi-sexual?
LOL i noticed they had Tim down too :laugh::laugh:

PaulyJ

19-07-2009, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by setanta
i'm not worrying about him.... i'm just saying that he doesn't do it just to keep fit- there's major vanity and obsessional behaviour involved with that kind of body building. do you realise what kinda stuff he has to ingest everyday to grow like that? puts huge strain on the heart and it'll catch up with him. i'm all for staying fit and healthy but it has to be in moderation.

Every athlete is Obsessional about his disiplin, that's what makes him competive.

BodyBuilding is not essencially about vanity, any more than training for the 100 metre sprint is. Sure you will get some Vein people doing it, to look good in an attempt to have people gaze at them in ore and for the girlies to go all gooey eyed at them, and Tom may well be one of these people. However do not lump all BBuilders into the same box.

BBuilders do it because they love to see the improvement and developement of individual muscles. the feeling of satisfaction is no different than running the 100 mtres .01 of a second faster than a week ago. They are athletes, and no more about the human skeletal. and muscular system than your average doctor. They study books, work damn hard in the gym. The pay off for them is not the same as winning an olympic gold, but something far less vein than that, personal improvement in their chosen disaplin.

setanta

19-07-2009, 02:50 PM

i never doubted for one second that bodybuilding can be of benefit to people; i just believe that this guy has gone to too extreme a level. that comes across as vanity and obsessional becuz he is not an athlete- not competing for any prize. and i don't think it's a healthy enterprise to undertake and will end up hurting him in the long run.

PaulyJ

19-07-2009, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by setanta
i never doubted for one second that bodybuilding can be of benefit to people; i just believe that this guy has gone to too extreme a level. that comes across as vanity and obsessional becuz he is not an athlete- not competing for any prize. and i don't think it's a healthy enterprise to undertake and will end up hurting him in the long run.

Athlete
a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.

Care of Dictionary.com

He is an athlete by that definition, if you want to suggest athlete's only compete for prizes then i would suggest your definition of Athlete i.e what Tom is not, is a far more vainer definition.

To compete for prizes i.e recognision is vanity, socially acceptable vanity, but vanity all the same.

RAS

19-07-2009, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by setanta
i never doubted for one second that bodybuilding can be of benefit to people; i just believe that this guy has gone to too extreme a level. that comes across as vanity and obsessional becuz he is not an athlete- not competing for any prize. and i don't think it's a healthy enterprise to undertake and will end up hurting him in the long run.

How can you say that Tom has gone to an "extreme level"?

He's obviously not an actual bodybuilder who competes, he is just in good shape.

Now this is "Extreme"

http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/frontpages/dexterjackson32.jpg

I dont know how you've got it into your head than weight training and being musclar makes you have heart problems and other problems when your older? That just quite simply isn't true. Steroid Abuse can possibly give your heart problems when your older, but thats just with people who are using stupid amounts of the stuff for years and years.

You need to get down the gym and do some squats.

This county needs to be worrying about the amount of fat lazy people we have and the health problems they will have and not worrying about health problems for the people who actually take a bit of pride in their body.

PaulyJ

19-07-2009, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by RAS
Originally posted by setanta
i never doubted for one second that bodybuilding can be of benefit to people; i just believe that this guy has gone to too extreme a level. that comes across as vanity and obsessional becuz he is not an athlete- not competing for any prize. and i don't think it's a healthy enterprise to undertake and will end up hurting him in the long run.

How can you say that Tom has gone to an "extreme level"?

He's obviously not an actual bodybuilder who competes, he is just in good shape.

Now this is "Extreme"

http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/frontpages/dexterjackson32.jpg

I dont know how you've got it into your head than weight training and being musclar makes you have heart problems and other problems when your older? That just quite simply isn't true. Steroid Abuse can possibly give your heart problems when your older, but thats just with people who are using stupid amounts of the stuff for years and years.

You need to get down the gym and do some squats.

This county needs to be worrying about the amount of fat lazy people we have and the health problems they will have and not worrying about health problems for the people who actually take a bit of pride in their body.

Ermm did i give you permission to start posting my pic around RAS. NO

30stone

19-07-2009, 03:20 PM

Stop on Ras.

People care more about Tom who isnt huge as it goes, we have much bigger people in my gym although most less defined.

There are so many obease and mobidly obease people who have much more health risks than people who weight train.

30stone

19-07-2009, 03:21 PM

Ohhh and is that dexter jackson?

Current Mr o?

RAS

19-07-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by PaulyJ

Ermm did i give you permission to start posting my pic around RAS. NO

lol....you should be proud of your body. Not Sure about the choice of underwear though, dont think red suits you.

Originally posted by 30stone
Ohhh and is that dexter jackson?

Current Mr o?

Certianly is.

I think his arms are probably bigger than my legs.

Chels

19-07-2009, 03:24 PM

is the OP male or female?
i'm guessing male cos he sounds a bit jealous.

PaulyJ

19-07-2009, 03:27 PM

I'm actually on a bit of a health kick myself at the moment.

Have started going to the gym a few times a week, and improved my diet to include, carb's and Protein in measured amounts, since hitting my 30's i seem to have aquired a bit of a belly and don't like the look of it.

Vanity Yes
Cause for criticism No.

RAS

19-07-2009, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by PaulyJ
I'm actually on a bit of a health kick myself at the moment.

Have started going to the gym a few times a week, and improved my diet to include, carb's and Protein in measured amounts, since hitting my 30's i seem to have aquired a bit of a belly and don't like the look of it.

Vanity Yes
Cause for criticism No.

Exactly, being healthy and seeing your body improving is a great feeling. Thers is no better feeling than walking out of the gym after a hard ass session and knowing you've pushed yourself.

PaulyJ

19-07-2009, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by RAS
Originally posted by PaulyJ

Ermm did i give you permission to start posting my pic around RAS. NO

lol....you should be proud of your body. Not Sure about the choice of underwear though, dont think red suits you.

It double's up as dental floss though, i just keep forgetting to wash it first. :conf2:

RAS

19-07-2009, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by Chels.x
is the OP male or female?
i'm guessing male cos he sounds a bit jealous.

I think the OP sits at home all day in front of his T.V munching on Mars Bars.

fitz2k2

19-07-2009, 03:32 PM

30stone

19-07-2009, 03:33 PM

Yes spot on Ras.

And lol his arms are apparently 22 and a half inches atm.

My leg at the top is 23 and a half.

They are some big ol' arms lol!

HellShark

19-07-2009, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by setanta
i never doubted for one second that bodybuilding can be of benefit to people; i just believe that this guy has gone to too extreme a level.

Hahahaha, you must be ****ing kidding. You ever even hit the gym buddy? He is big but no-where near extreme. Extreme is when you are a 6ft 300lbs with 2% bodyfat.

that comes across as vanity and obsessional becuz he is not an athlete- not competing for any prize. and i don't think it's a healthy enterprise to undertake and will end up hurting him in the long run.

You come across as an Edited.. If he Bodybuilds he is vain, eh? Good logic there.

and i don't think it's a healthy enterprise to undertake and will end up hurting him in the long run.

This one is such a gem. You should frame it and hang it on your wall, then read it everyday to remind yourself how Edited. you just made yourself look. How can a healthy lifestyle be unhealthy and damaging?

green212

19-07-2009, 03:48 PM

Come on guys, he looks good, you are blatently jealous x

30stone

19-07-2009, 03:48 PM

Yeh it is obsessional but whats wrong with that.

Like i know so many people insluding myself... once they started weight training couldnt stop..

HellShark

19-07-2009, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by 30stone
Yeh it is obsessional but whats wrong with that.

Like i know so many people insluding myself... once they started weight training couldnt stop..

If you are going to edit my posts could you replace the edited bits with some more acceptable insults? I give you as much creative freedom as you want.

setanta

19-07-2009, 06:15 PM

You know it continually amazes me the kind of vitriolic response one gets on these forums when you go against the perceived wisdom of the collective group. My argument in this matter certainly has some validity and I hold to it, but I have nothing against anyone who speaks against me on the matter with calmness and clarity. Thanks for that 30stone: I may not agree with all you say but I have no problem with you saying it.... you have ur ideas on the matter, I have mine.

As for a few others on here, I'm actually glad I stepped out for awhile cuz it's plainly obvious to me that you fellas need to relax a little and not show such aggression and hatred towards other members who don't agree with you. It shows a lack of maturity and civility. Nobody will ever agree totally with anyone else, but in your reactions you reveal so much of who you are, and how tolerant and accepting you are of others.

As for Hellshark, usually I wouldn't even bother responding to you but I will on this occassion because I think you may be a little dimwitted and need this to be spelled out to you. Firstly, it's quite obvious you haven't read any of this thread and are just intent on making yourself look like a reactionary fool by deliberately dismantling somebody elses comments and using them in your own unique and infantile fashion. It's actually surprising how much animosity you can show to somebody you don't even know. The funniest thing about it is you probably wont even read this.

Oh, and to clarify one matter cuz it's bugging me- I train and exercise at least five times a week; more now because I'm training for Dublin Marathon. I know the value of exercise but I also know of the dangers of excess in one area of training. Being an athlete is all about balance.... to weigh yourself down with that much body mass is debilitating for you in other areas of health and fitness.

themother

19-07-2009, 06:34 PM

Isn't life strange!

It amases me how some people can be so vile about others who they do not know, and make judgement about their lifestyle when they can't even begin to comprehend it!!

You are fit and take pride in your body and diet and you're accused of taking drugs! Yes, it takes dedication and willpower, but it's hardly an obsession!

I'd rather see a fit bloke, eating well, in the gym, running etc rather than some of the alternatives in life these days!

Perhaps you'd rather see flabby unhealthy pi55 heads instead?? I wonder if some of you could do with taking a lesson or two in health and fitness not to mention manners??

Marc

19-07-2009, 06:45 PM

Cue... 30stone somewhere in this argument LOL

setanta

19-07-2009, 06:53 PM

ah i don't mind an argument, it's just the reaction that you get in here sometimes when you're just trying to put your point across. it goes mental... they don't want to hear it lol

Rodrigo2Win

19-07-2009, 07:16 PM

So Tom is vain and disgusting because he is muscular, but Marcus is fine for spending all his time on weights, failing, and claiming he IS muscular?

setanta

19-07-2009, 07:21 PM

My main argument was that Tom has overdone it on the bodybuilding side of things and it could have damaging effects on his health later on in life. I suggested that it may be a vanity thing or just obsessional behaviour but I never compared him to anyone else or remarked on his personality. My main contention was that building your muscles to that size isn't good for your heart or body in the long run.

Rodrigo2Win

19-07-2009, 07:25 PM

setanta

19-07-2009, 07:37 PM

Forgive me; I thought you were being you usual snidey self.

superfanno1

19-07-2009, 07:41 PM

A lot of gym bunnies on here defending that twat Tom.

Yes, men who hang around in gyms admiring other bloke's 'ripped' bodies are really straight, hetero types. Aye, right. Chase me , Chase me.

Beyoncé

19-07-2009, 07:45 PM

He may have muscles but he seems to have a crap "personality", if you can even call it that!

bbisfun

19-07-2009, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by superfanno1
Anyone who spends that much time on their body and is not also an olympic athlete is quite simply a vain t***.

He looks utterly ridiculous...like someone has pumped him full of air. Dull, predictable, vain, self-obsessed bore.

I admire his dedication to training and think his got a brilliant body. As someone that works out I know its not always about been vain but it can also build self confidence. Tom has an awesome body and seems like an ok bloke.

HellShark

19-07-2009, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by setanta
As for Hellshark, usually I wouldn't even bother responding to you but I will on this occassion because I think you may be a little dimwitted and need this to be spelled out to you. Firstly, it's quite obvious you haven't read any of this thread and are just intent on making yourself look like a reactionary fool by deliberately dismantling somebody elses comments and using them in your own unique and infantile fashion. It's actually surprising how much animosity you can show to somebody you don't even know. The funniest thing about it is you probably wont even read this.

Hahaha, I did read the whole thread, let's take a look at your idiotic comments.

this fella just looks like he'll fall over from a massive heart attack in his 50's

that kinda body is only achieved through hours and hours in gym each day plus the odd dose of steroids- think he's an addict

bodybuilders become addicted to it. i think it's an obsessive thing for him.

he's a heart attack waiting to happen when he gets a bit older.

Just reading over this **** is embarrassing and this is just from the first page. I am starting to wonder if I've picked an argument with someone who is genuinely retarded.

RobertaH

19-07-2009, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by Rollerrd
I bet he has a small willy.

ROFLMAO! Thanks for that laugh Roller. :flowers:

setanta

19-07-2009, 09:55 PM

you're highlighting exactly what i said. you're just intent on attacking someone over what they have said, rather than coming up with your own theories or thoughts on the matter. is that your thing? to try and attempt to make others look foolish? very sad

and yes, i do believe that building yourself up to that degree is bordering on obsessive and can lead to serious problems later on in life. that's my opinion. i'm entitled to one as much as you are.

kisywisy

19-07-2009, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by josycee
Originally posted by superfanno1
Anyone who spends that much time on their body and is not also an olympic athlete is quite simply a vain t***.

He looks utterly ridiculous...like someone has pumped him full of air. Dull, predictable, vain, self-obsessed bore.

FFS the guy wanted to play professional rugby but got an injury in his back!!!!, he probably likes to look after himself by eating a good diet going to the gym etc LIKE MOST PEOPLE DO, why does that make him vain or obnoxious? i think you need to get of your high horse and stop judging people so harshly when you know f all about them.

well said!!

i don't think it's fair to say that he's been on steroids. i've got 2 guy pals that are bloody huge and they never touch the stuff. it goes against the whole heathly lifestyle. he just likes to take care of his body and stay healthy. he's obviously proud of what he's got too and so he should. noone minds when the girls are swanning about in bikinis.

HellShark

19-07-2009, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by setanta
you're highlighting exactly what i said. you're just intent on attacking someone over what they have said, rather than coming up with your own theories or thoughts on the matter. is that your thing? to try and attempt to make others look foolish? very sad

and yes, i do believe that building yourself up to that degree is bordering on obsessive and can lead to serious problems later on in life. that's my opinion. i'm entitled to one as much as you are.

I am highlighting what you said to point out just how ignorant you are.

If it's so widely accepted that bodybuilders suffer from heart attacks then post some evidence. I can't wait to see what you dig up.

You accuse him of being a steroid addict, vain and unhealthy. Now you try to hide behind some veil of maturity and pass it off as 'It's only my opinion!!!'

Your opinion is judgemental and the bullshit you are spouting about health problems is unfounded nonsense.

setanta

19-07-2009, 10:13 PM

i mentioned only the once that he might be on steroids... just once. and you take everything i say totally out of context. you're a very reactionary individual who just doesn't accept anyone elses views that are contradictory to your own.

i'm merely suggesting that to build yourself up that much is bad for ur body in the long run. i believe that. you just have to type in bodybuilder heart attack and you'll find many examples of guys who keel over from it. these guys become more and more obsessive about their bodies.... it leads to abuse. and also on a purely physical level, it eventually puts an awful strain on ur body carrying that kinda weight around.

you can't just attack someone for having their own opinions regarding something. it's silly and infantile.

kisywisy

19-07-2009, 10:22 PM

setanta

19-07-2009, 10:23 PM

i said that it might be a vanity thing, but it is definitely a bit obsessional. he's fine right now becuz he's in his prime.... wait until he gets on a bit. that's when the trouble begins.

HellShark

19-07-2009, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by setanta
i mentioned only the once that he might be on steroids... just once. and you take everything i say totally out of context. you're a very reactionary individual who just doesn't accept anyone elses views that are contradictory to your own.

that kinda body is only achieved through hours and hours in gym each day plus the odd dose of steroids- think he's an addict

Looks like you said the only way he could get that body is by taking steroids. What other context can it be taken in?

i'm merely suggesting that to build yourself up that much is bad for ur body in the long run. i believe that. you just have to type in bodybuilder heart attack and you'll find many examples of guys who keel over from it. these guys become more and more obsessive about their bodies.... it leads to abuse. and also on a purely physical level, it eventually puts an awful strain on ur body carrying that kinda weight around.

its a well known fact that body builders suffer from weak hearts as they get older

You aren't merely suggesting anything. Apparently it's a fact, yet you conveniently provide no evidence.

If you are seriously suggesting that because a few bodybuilders suffer from heart attacks that there is a direct correlation I have to once again question your mental stability.

you can't just attack someone for having their own opinions regarding something. it's silly and infantile.

Hahaha, hiding behind opinions again? In previous posts you insisted what you were saying was fact.

setanta

19-07-2009, 10:31 PM

i think hes addicted to bodybuilding.... didn't mean the drugs. and yes, i do believe these fellas suffer later on in life, more so than other physically fit individuals. i never said anything was fact.... only fact i was saying was these guys are liable to suffer later on in life if they continue this form of training. your body can't withstand it for that long and the heart weakens. you think it's natural to be that big?

you just seem intent on having a pop at others.

dharma

19-07-2009, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by setanta
My main argument was that Tom has overdone it on the bodybuilding side of things and it could have damaging effects on his health later on in life. I suggested that it may be a vanity thing or just obsessional behaviour but I never compared him to anyone else or remarked on his personality. My main contention was that building your muscles to that size isn't good for your heart or body in the long run.

there is no evidence that having a muscular body puts strain on your heart, none what so ever. if he was still muscular like that when he was 50 then he would actually be very healthy. the more muscle you have the more testosterone your body will produce. keeping him young.... but if he was using steroids and eating unhealthy foods then you could suggest this would be bad for his heart.

id just like to say he has worked extremely hard for that body, the majority of people who abuse steroids still cant achieve his gains. body building relies alot on genetics. this doesn't mean he has used steroids either. he has probably been doing this for about 10 years.

literally just joined and all i can say is this forum seems to be full of uneducated time wasters. i think youv'e "over done it" on chatting absolute bollox on a forum about stupid common misconceptions you hear from other people.

HellShark

19-07-2009, 10:38 PM

Deleted. Insults.

setanta

19-07-2009, 10:42 PM

i'm not altering my comments. i do believe that it will lead to problems in later years if he continues to eat and train like this. thats my opinion. you just seem intent on bigging yourself up

LemonJam

19-07-2009, 10:55 PM

He seems like a good housemate so far, not just a pretty face.

dharma

19-07-2009, 11:14 PM

no ones bigging there self up. your opinion doesn't seem to hold any truth, thats why people are bashing your comments. go and do some research on the subject. awe don't know what his eating habits are like so why are you putting that their.

charliegimbert

19-07-2009, 11:17 PM

Deleted.

setanta

19-07-2009, 11:18 PM

i'm speculating, as we all are. we are all allowed to have an opinion on things. and i believe its not healthy in the long run to build ur body up to that level. plus, it can become a pathological thing for these guys.... continually wanting to increase their size or to maintain their strength.... which can eventually lead to abuse, if abuse hasn't already occured.

jarkody

19-07-2009, 11:23 PM

Was it me or did I catch him checking out Rodrigo :puzzled: I caught about 2 quick glances that lasted only a second each but I saw it! I'm not saying he's gay but I get that looks like that from guys all the time so I recognize it..:thumbs2:

dharma

19-07-2009, 11:25 PM

can please go into further detail on why you think bodybuilding can abuse your body and why you think it would effect health later on in life...

would you suggest that sprinters would also suffer from these health problems?

dharma

19-07-2009, 11:25 PM

rayheartbliss

19-07-2009, 11:28 PM

some people are just jealous that other look good and they dont
thats why them people with good bodies are being slated as unhealthy

i mean yes there are some who are unhealthy, but tom is hardly like them

charliegimbert

19-07-2009, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by rayheartbliss
some people are just jealous that other look good and they dont
thats why them people with good bodies are being slated as unhealthy

i mean yes there are some who are unhealthy, but tom is hardly like them

Tom is ugly w*nker

setanta

19-07-2009, 11:33 PM

sprinters dont build up their body mass to that extreme level... they're not ingesting the same amount of supplements and food as bodybuilders. added weight puts pressure on the heart and the joints..... so too does the intake of more calories and proteins. these guys continue to put these demands on their bodies.... it is an obsessive hobby that can lead to abuse. it can very easily become pathological: the need to get bigger, to feel stronger. as you get older ur joints weaken and that body mass begins to really effect u.

tintedshadow

19-07-2009, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by dharma
can please go into further detail on why you think bodybuilding can abuse your body and why you think it would effect health later on in life...

would you suggest that sprinters would also suffer from these health problems?

since hellshark is acting up flexing his E-muscle i shall bypass him as you are atleast enquiring on a polite coherent level..

suffice it to say sentanta is correct,i am speaking as someone who is a looking in to fitness instructing as a profession,as i am still training what i will do is not articulate what i think and feel..

i shall post a link,which is going to say what all with a little bit of knowledge in the field will tell you..and this is not about steriod abuse,this is about natural body building side affects..

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/OConnor16.html (not sure if we're allowed to post links but mods can edit if that is the case)

so in future,hellshark grow a pair and speak with a manner of respect towards people or you will recieve much the same type of treatment..

tentpeg

19-07-2009, 11:46 PM

He walks strangely - and I guess that's because he can no longer put his arms down properly. Maybe if he did he would get sores in his arm pit. His face is ever so slim and long which looks very odd against such wide shoulders.

dharma

19-07-2009, 11:51 PM

what are you talking about mate, sprinters main form of training is weight training. trust me competative sprinters will be using any supplements they can get thier hands and considering they get given them its not very hard. and thier calorie consumption will still be huge compared to the average person.

check these pics out. without a doubt successful sprinter are just as big as him.

http://www.thebetterweigh.com/images/marathoner_sprinter2.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00028/Harry_Aikines-Aryeet_28582t.jpg

the people who encounter problems through weight training are those who dont know what their doing. ie they dont warm up, they dont rest for long enough or train for long. all these topics lik bad joints, heart problems are totally aboidable.

so basically your generalization of the sport is full of flaws.

tht link was all about the health risks of steroids.... not once have i said steroids are not bad for your health im talking about frug free bodybuilding.

dharma

19-07-2009, 11:54 PM

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/OConnor16.html

this is all about the health risks of steroid abuse not bodybuilding!

tentpeg

19-07-2009, 11:57 PM

His body, yes 30stone, but OUR TV and OUR FAVE SHOW! My eyes deserve better!

setanta

19-07-2009, 11:58 PM

sprinters are nowhere near as big as bodybuilders... that's ridiculous to say. their whole training system is getting power vs body mass in line...finding the right balance so they can move gracefully and with speed. you can't compare the two. and there is no way that they eat as much as bodybuilders. plus, their careers at the top only last 10 years- then they just train normally in every area.... not just weights. bodybuilders are a different breed to sprinters or athletes. can't compare the two. body builders continue to punish themselves well beyond their prime

dharma

20-07-2009, 12:06 AM

of course you can relate the two. sprinters train thier muscles to be more explosive in relation to speed. having bigger muscles will not slow you down yes obviously the would be heavier but they support there own weight they would be stronger. these guys dont take or at least their not aloud to take steroids. natural body builders wouldn't get that much bigger than these guys.

basically both of these guys focus on building their muscles..... oh wait BODY BUILDING

setanta

20-07-2009, 12:08 AM

do you seriously think there's no difference between the two?

dharma

20-07-2009, 12:18 AM

there are some clear comparisons between the two.

the stronger a sprinter is the faster they will be able to run. so they workout, obviously they sprint aswell which is actually muscle building form of exersise. look it up. so to some extent they incorporate a bodybuilding lifestyle in to there training without the body building title.

so basically considering these guys workout and take supplements why all of a sudden are they not going to suffer from all the things you stated for a bodybuilder....

setanta

20-07-2009, 12:24 AM

oh dear... you haven't been listening to me. and i'm tired. this is annoying me now. weight training is an important facet of any fitness regime....of course sprinters make use of it but to say they are similar size to bodybuilders is ridiculous.

bodybuilders push their muscles to the limit and build them up and up. always trying to get bigger and bigger. and they do this over long periods of time. i'm talking about long term damage here through this constant stress on the body. body builders dont stop at thirty odd... they continue, irrespective of the pain or whatever. it's pathological to many of them. the obsession to look good propels them on. there has to be a breaking point. thats how i look on it anyway.

Insane_Spirit

20-07-2009, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by Rollerrd
I bet he has a small willy.

LMAO....that's defo a given imo.

BUT, saying that, there really isn't anything wrong with a guy having a small willy, unless they are dull, boring and vain kn*bs like Tom appears to be.

dharma

20-07-2009, 12:30 AM

ok you keep repeating yourself now and seem to always incorporate words like pain and stress that sprinters most defiantly put them selves through.

back to the point sprinters are just as big as tom off bb. your annoyed cos you know your wrong and you cant admit it.

setanta

20-07-2009, 12:31 AM

they're nowhere near as big as him... wow, are you serious?

dharma

20-07-2009, 12:43 AM

ok dont be silly

tom

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/gallery/Day46/d46_1200_carryonexercising.html?decorator-index=5

sprinters

http://www.jasonferruggia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/shawn_crawford2.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00028/Harry_Aikines-Aryeet_28582t.jpg

setanta

20-07-2009, 12:48 AM

they're not the same size...really.... stand them next to each other and you'll see. but anyway, you're deviating away from the point i've been continually trying to make about long term damage to guys who build themselves up and continue to bodybuild. that's all i'm saying. done.

setanta

20-07-2009, 12:50 AM

and don't forget that shaun crawford competes at highest level. of course he'll build them up at this stage of his career... but he wont continue that trend for the rest of his life like bodybuilders do. you're comparing a top international athlete to tom to prove a point.

setanta

20-07-2009, 12:52 AM

what about usain bolt? is he the same size as tom? it's a silly thing to start talking about

dharma

20-07-2009, 12:55 AM

how do you know tom will carry on like tht you dont......... just because tom doent compete doesnt mean he is any less of an athlete.

im comparing two people with similiar bodies to prove a point. you point the finger at bodybuilding cos you hear all the generalized bollox about health isuess that are normally related to steroid abuse.....

aswell ive proved you wrong cos you said these guys wernt comparable. these guys are just as big as tom not forgetting likely to be much taller.

dharma

20-07-2009, 12:58 AM

ye but then you get guys that work out religously and are small.... whats your point...

HellShark

20-07-2009, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by tintedshadow
Originally posted by dharma
can please go into further detail on why you think bodybuilding can abuse your body and why you think it would effect health later on in life...

would you suggest that sprinters would also suffer from these health problems?

since hellshark is acting up flexing his E-muscle i shall bypass him as you are atleast enquiring on a polite coherent level..

suffice it to say sentanta is correct,i am speaking as someone who is a looking in to fitness instructing as a profession,as i am still training what i will do is not articulate what i think and feel..

i shall post a link,which is going to say what all with a little bit of knowledge in the field will tell you..and this is not about steriod abuse,this is about natural body building side affects..

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/OConnor16.html (not sure if we're allowed to post links but mods can edit if that is the case)

so in future,hellshark grow a pair and speak with a manner of respect towards people or you will recieve much the same type of treatment..

Natural Bodybuilding Beats Steroids
by Jim O'Connor

Lmfao. The whole article is about the side effects of steroids, hahahahahaha.

28thapril

20-07-2009, 08:02 AM

Lovely body, ugly face and attitude uses his body for gain so not a nice look in the man:cat:

flemin

20-07-2009, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Rollerrd
I bet he has a small willy.
It'll be the steroids.

UK_Nailhead

20-07-2009, 03:06 PM

Tom is a ugly c-unt, if he thinks he's amazing with his body like that 'steroid use' roid rage man, just wait till he gets older as all that turns to fat and the rest to saggy skin, loveley boyd then, Big Brother 10 Tom ya c-unt, no-one likes you.

mellors

20-07-2009, 03:42 PM

actually you can get that ripped clean, but it does take longer and more dedication. been there tried to do that, and failed.:sad: he will never be the size of the likes of the IFBB contestants.

PaulyJ

20-07-2009, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by mellors
actually you can get that ripped clean, but it does take longer and more dedication. been there tried to do that, and failed.:sad: he will never be the size of the likes of the IFBB contestants.

Arey ou saying Professional, competitive BB's take steroid's?

mellors

20-07-2009, 03:50 PM

you might think that. I could not possbily comment.

:bigsmile:

BitterFruit

20-07-2009, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by dbfs
surely you should think the same about dog face then who spends on that money on falst tits!!!!!!!

er ...............good point :thumbs:

The_Long_Run

20-07-2009, 03:56 PM

His mate on BBLB on Sunday said Tom used to work in a pizza restaurant and was a 'blob' back then. Probably got teased unmercifully for it so not surprising he has an unhealthy attitude to body shape. He may even suffer from 'body dismorphia', similar to anorexia, but in his mind he sees himself as underdeveloped so is driven to work out to correct his body. Once he started to get in shape and people complimented him on it, it began a psycholgical feedback loop and a "treadmill he can't step off" (if you will excuse the mixture of metaphor and literalism)