HM decide they will not nominate

[Niamh.]

I just read on the channel 4 website that Charlie, Marcus, Noirin, Siavash & Freddie know that the new HMs are doing some secret task and they said that they will refuse to nominate. If they do this and Big Brother punishes them by putting them up for eviction will the new HMs have won their secret task by default????

[Rollerrd]

Er no, cos Freddie and Noirin aren't both up for eviction. Hardly rocket science...

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

If those 5 don't nominate and are put up for eviction then Marcus or Noirin are gone. Silly people :nono:

[PaulyJ]

If your report is correct then i can see it happening yes.

What a turn of good luck for the newbies that would be

[Niamh.]

No, Rollard, I mean if they protest and say that they won't nominate, the punishment that big brother usually gives out is to put you up for eviction, therefore by default the newbies would have won their task

[Novo]

How did they find out

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
If your report is correct then i can see it happening yes.

What a turn of good luck for the newbies that would be

And, also, if they are put up would Big Brother only have Noirin & Halfwit face the public vote cos they were the 2 picked out of the box by Hira?? hhhmmm, I hope they don't go through with it

[Zippy]

It doesn't matter how Noirin and freddy are put up for eviction. If they are up for eviction then the new housemates are SAFE.

If Freddy and Noirin refuse to nominate they will be put up.

[Alf]

nominations are compulsary, so bb would put the hm who dont nomiate up.
that would mean that halfwit and noirin would be up for eviction.
so the new hm would have passed the task.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Day 47:

The original housemates have sussed out that there’s a secret mission going on, and have decided to take action.

The old housemates are aware that the new housemates have been given a secret task, especially after Bea gave numerous hints in the morning and Tom and Kenneth said “they can’t talk about it”.

Sitting around the dining table, the ‘originals’ decided that they wouldn’t take any more of this.

Speaking about this week’s imminent nominations process, Charlie said: “I know what I’m going to do when I go in there. I’m not going to nominate. If I do that, they’ll probably make an example of me or something.”

“If they throw you out Charlie, I’ll walk,” said Marcus, who has never been close to Charlie before.

After some chat, Charlie, Dogface, Marcus, Noirin and Siavash agreed that they would not nominate when called into the diary room.

However, Rodrigo was not happy with the plan, telling Noirin: “The way you speak about this, I feel pressured.”

She replied: “”I’m not pressuring you, I’m just tellling you about what we’re going to do. I said this is what is going to happen.”

“But you don’t tell me, Big Brother tells us,” Rodrigo responded.

“It’s what we all agreed out there. You weren’t there. I’m just letting you know. Next time I won’t tell you,” concluded Noirin.

What will Big Brother do if the housemates decline to nominate?





They'll all be put up for eviction right? Stupid idea of theirs.:rolleyes:

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by .Andy.
How did they find out

It just said they were suspicious, Bea dropped some hints and Tom and Kenneth said there's something they can't talk about

[Marc]

Hmmm they may all go up for eviction? then the newbies will succeed in getting Noirin and Halfwit up for eviction and they will all be up for eviction. Lisa out!!

[PaulyJ]

Freddie, has not agreed to not nominate though, Siavash, Marcus, Charly, Sophie, and Noirin have agreed not to nominate when they go in the DR, it only states Freddie, knows there is a secret mission.


http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/blog/5b8da0d32a9d19dae63d1cfc80a0a1c7/view.c4

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally posted by Marcjswp
Hmmm they may all go up for eviction? then the newbies will succeed in getting Noirin and Halfwit up for eviction and they will all be up for eviction. Lisa out!!

Lisa hasn't agreed to not nominate though, neither has Freddie or Rodrigo.

[Arneldo]

If they do this, then BB should punish the new housemates as they obviously failed there mission as the original housemate figured out they had a mission.

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
Freddie, has not agreed to not nominate though, Siavash, Marcus, Charly, Sophie, and Noirin have agreed not to nominate when they go in the DR, it only states Freddie, knows there is a secret mission.


http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/blog/5b8da0d32a9d19dae63d1cfc80a0a1c7/view.c4

Oh sorry, thought it said Freddie too, in that case, what would happen there? The newbies would have failed their task so they would have to be put for eviction would they also add the HM who didn't nominate to the list, there would be 10 of them up then!

[PaulyJ]

I can't see Freddie being converted either, he's loved by the public, he knows it, and therefore he will play the BB game, and not want to interfere with something that's going so well for him.

[HELLIWONTGO]

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/blog/5b8da0d32a9d19dae63d1cfc80a0a1c7/view.c4

[Arneldo]

If BB puts the original housemates up for eviciton - I will flip. It should be the new housemates nominates as they failed there task, and even Bea didn't take part in it.

[PaulyJ]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by PaulyJ
Freddie, has not agreed to not nominate though, Siavash, Marcus, Charly, Sophie, and Noirin have agreed not to nominate when they go in the DR, it only states Freddie, knows there is a secret mission.


http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/blog/5b8da0d32a9d19dae63d1cfc80a0a1c7/view.c4

Oh sorry, thought it said Freddie too, in that case, what would happen there? The newbies would have failed their task so they would have to be put for eviction would they also add the HM who didn't nominate to the list, there would be 10 of them up then!

I can't remember any punishment for refusing to nominate, other than automatic put up(for want of the right word lol).

So yep they'd all go up bar the old Hm's who nominated.

This is turning into a great BB, if this goes ahead blimey :cheer2:

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by PaulyJ
Freddie, has not agreed to not nominate though, Siavash, Marcus, Charly, Sophie, and Noirin have agreed not to nominate when they go in the DR, it only states Freddie, knows there is a secret mission.


http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/blog/5b8da0d32a9d19dae63d1cfc80a0a1c7/view.c4

Oh sorry, thought it said Freddie too, in that case, what would happen there? The newbies would have failed their task so they would have to be put for eviction would they also add the HM who didn't nominate to the list, there would be 10 of them up then!

I can't remember any punishment for refusing to nominate, other than automatic put up(for want of the right word lol).

So yep they'd all go up bar the old Hm's who nominated.

This is turning into a great BB, if this goes ahead blimey :cheer2:


Yeah definately, would be interesting to see which one of them would go out of all them!

[King Gizzard]

bye marcus or noirinnnn

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by Hewman
bye marcus or noirinnnn

Or maybe Kenneth, he doesn't seem to be liked much either!!

[BJ]

BB should put those who won't nominate up for eviction and tell them it's a triple eviction. They'd be upset to think they'd shot themselves in the foot

[PaulyJ]

It has to be Marcus, doesn't it. Has to be him

[Marc]

Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by Marcjswp
Hmmm they may all go up for eviction? then the newbies will succeed in getting Noirin and Halfwit up for eviction and they will all be up for eviction. Lisa out!!

Lisa hasn't agreed to not nominate though, neither has Freddie or Rodrigo.

Ooh okay then the people who do vote will be fine then

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by PaulyJ
It has to be Marcus, doesn't it. Has to be him

I'd like to think so anyway!!

[King Gizzard]

Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by Hewman
bye marcus or noirinnnn

Or maybe Kenneth, he doesn't seem to be liked much either!!

yeh but if its only them 5 people up for not nominating it wont be ken will it

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by Hewman
Originally posted by Niamhxo
Originally posted by Hewman
bye marcus or noirinnnn

Or maybe Kenneth, he doesn't seem to be liked much either!!

yeh but if its only them 5 people up for not nominating it wont be ken will it

Well, If those 5 refuse to nominate but Freddie does then the new HMs will have failed their task but the HMs who didn't nominate will still have to be punished?

[bcass]

the way i understand it is that bb wants freddie and noirin ONLY up for eviction, so the public chooses one or the other, so if they refuse to nominate and all are up for eviction then the newbies have failed as there will be more than freddie and noirin up

[Niamh.]

Originally posted by bcass
the way i understand it is that bb wants freddie and noirin ONLY up for eviction, so the public chooses one or the other, so if they refuse to nominate and all are up for eviction then the newbies have failed as there will be more than freddie and noirin up

Oh, right, I thought it was as long as the 2 of them are up and it didn't matter who else, but I might be wrong!

[PaulyJ]

Originally posted by Marcjswp
Originally posted by MissKittyFantastico
Originally posted by Marcjswp
Hmmm they may all go up for eviction? then the newbies will succeed in getting Noirin and Halfwit up for eviction and they will all be up for eviction. Lisa out!!

Lisa hasn't agreed to not nominate though, neither has Freddie or Rodrigo.

Ooh okay then the people who do vote will be fine then


Which makes me wonder, what happens to the people that have been nominated by the Hm's that do nominate, do they go up also, i mean the likelyhood is that they will be up anyway, but what if Lisa,Freddie,Roddy vote in such a way that see's one of those three with votes, one of them may be up due to normal nomination activity. Or would BB forget about normal noms with so many people up.

Or have i mis-understood what's going to happen if the newbies fail their task.

God this is getting complex someone HELP!

[StGeorge]

The newbies should be up as their task has been compromised.
The oldies will be up if they do not nominate.

So it should be about 10 up this week.

And Lisa will survive again. Criminal.

[PaulyJ]

StGeorge is right

BB should deem that the new Hm's have failed the task as it was in the rules that they could not let the other Hm's know they had a secret mission?

Only the 5 newbies go up and they punish the No noms 5 in another way, may be by being nominated next week.

[Dolphin-and-Whale]

10 up will be fun, hope Hira goes

[jjj2]

Last Time this happened big brother told them that if the did not nomminate every one in the house would be up for eviction not just the ones who refused ,That time they caved in when they heard that.

[IsleOfWeather]

cant they just open a trapdoor, push ken down it and then have a party on friday?

[Jayson]

Good good, Kenny boy is saved :dance2:

[Zippy]

Originally posted by Arneldo
If BB puts the original housemates up for eviciton - I will flip. It should be the new housemates nominates as they failed there task, and even Bea didn't take part in it.

If Noirin and Freddy get themselves put up for eviction then the newbies have NOT failed their task. Its not the newbies fault if the HMs get suspicious. They are always suspicious anyhow!

As long as the newbies didn't tell them what the task is then they haven't done anything wrong.

If Noirins and Freddies nominations come about via that suspicion then the newbies have kinda done their job. Albeit in a roundabout way!

[Cybele]

I guess it depends on how BB chooses to interpret the secret task. BB specifically said that the task was to get the old housemates to "nominate" Freddie and Noirin for eviction. If BB puts them up for eviction as a punishment, they were NOT nominated.

[The_Long_Run]

BB producers will intepret the rules exactly as they choose. They will do this on the basis of which interpretation they think will give them the best ratings in the future. However with my lawyers hat on, the publication of clarification of alternative scenarios on the website ties their hands.

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/blog/ba23f420b3dadeee4cb035f17bafef70/view.c4

EITHER only the 5 newbies OR Noirin, Halfwit (and any other HM that ties with them)

[DDRickyDD]

To pass the task, the newbies had to make sure no-one knew about the secret mission, If people are refusing to nominiate becuase they think the newbies are on a secret mission then they have failed and will face the public vote.

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by DDRickyDD
To pass the task, the newbies had to make sure no-one knew about the secret mission, If people are refusing to nominiate becuase they think the newbies are on a secret mission then they have failed and will face the public vote.

Not necessarily. Why? BB told Hira she must not tell any of the originals about the secret mission. That's all, the others are not bound by this.

[DiamondDogTags]

I don't think it was explained fully for a reason BB want to twist it because some people think its:
- the 5 new ones (cause they've sussed it)
- the 5 new ones + the originals with the most nominations (if they don't pick noirin and/or halfwit)
- noirin vs halfwit (if they pull it off)
- noirin vs. halfwit vs. whoever ties with them (if it goes through)
- everyone who chooses not to nominate
- all originals go up (if the newbies pull it off)
I guess we will just have to find out later, the task is a bit weak to be honest. Also it's not exactly fair if Noirin or Halfwit leaves this week I think if they do get nominated and the newbies passed the task then all originals should be up, because it didn't really matter who Hira picked.

[Zippy]

Originally posted by DDRickyDD
To pass the task, the newbies had to make sure no-one knew about the secret mission, If people are refusing to nominiate becuase they think the newbies are on a secret mission then they have failed and will face the public vote.

The housemates ALWAYS clock on to secret missions. Does this usually result in them being failed? No!

The housemates are just not allowed to know what the secret mission is. Thats the point.

[serensilver]

I thought BB told Hira if Noirin and freddie are NOMINATED for eviction blah blah blah!:puzzled: so surely if they all refuse to nominate they haven't been NOMINATED for eviction have they???:wavey:

[JustKaz]

Originally posted by Cybele
I guess it depends on how BB chooses to interpret the secret task. BB specifically said that the task was to get the old housemates to "nominate" Freddie and Noirin for eviction. If BB puts them up for eviction as a punishment, they were NOT nominated.


The out come is pretty confusing now, but what you say makes the most sence to me in regards how it can turn out. As Freddie/Norine were NOT nominated........unless Lisa, Rodrigo does..oh gee it so confusing, BB have many options on this.

[The_Long_Run]

Define "nominate". Oh and by whom? If someone's name is on the list for whom we can vote, they are nominaed.

[JustKaz]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Define "nominate". Oh and by whom? If someone's name is on the list for whom we can vote, they are nominaed.


Though the task suggested that Freddie/Noirin have to be nominated by Housemate....So if BB have to put them up for refusing to nominate, then I guess the task is classed as a fail. I am pretty confused, though it does not take much lol

Just have to wait and see.

[alchemists1]

The old housemates will nominate soon as they get a warning they will all cave in,and as for them sussing out the new housemates have a task its not rocket science new housemates always get a task but as long as the old housemates dont get exactley what it is the new housemates should be ok.

[psykosue]

please dont do it i want the creep marcur + his sidekick bitch norin out

[Fangz]

There's going to be carnage once the original HMs figure out what's been going on.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Just to add more confusion to this debate which is taking a very interesting turn. If Charlie, Marcus, Norin and Siavash stand by their guns and refuse to nominate, that will leave Freddie, Lisa and Rodrigo the only ones to nominte. Lisa and Rodrigo have both (in the past) nominated Norin and Rodrigo (although, to be fair, I can't remember Rod nominating Norin). But if Lisa and Rod both nominate Freddie and Norin, then the newies will have passed the secret mission (unintentionally). So who does BB acknowledge to be up for eviction. The four who refused to nominate! The nominations by Freddie, Lisa and Rod or do they put the newies up for letting out the secret that they had a mission?

[bananarama]

I have a feeling that evil is going to triumph on this occasion and Noiin sadly and sadly for the survival of story lines in BB10 Noirin will be gone this Friday.......

Take out the catylist and you have nothing.........BB10 after this Friday will be nothing.......