They don't know which 11!!

[The_Long_Run]

Siavash discusing which ones it \MIGHT be with Noirin!

[Sam1994]

But it's probably Lisa because she would and Rodrigo since he respects BB far too much :hugesmile:

[MrGaryy]

they do. It;s every housemates that refused to nominate plus the newbies as they failed their mission. there fore every hm bar Lisa and Rodrigo.

[WAYNEEBRUM]

he meant which ones mite go.
everyones up except lisa n rod.

[The_Long_Run]

How you know that? It's all those original HMs who discussed evictions, plus the newbies for failing.

[Sam1994]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
How you know that? It's all those original HMs who discussed evictions, plus the newbies for failing.

It's all the people who refused to nominated today. Lisa and Rodrigo did.

[ManicWolf]

Originally posted by Sam1994
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
How you know that? It's all those original HMs who discussed evictions, plus the newbies for failing.

It's all the people who refused to nominated today. Lisa and Rodrigo did.

Trust Lisa to be too scared to face the public vote. :rolleyes:

[The_Long_Run]

Still not sure this information is definitive. Some are up for refusing to vote, some are up for talking about nominations and newbies are up for failing task. Question: if both Freddie and Noirin are up, didn't newbies pass the task?

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Question: if both Freddie and Noirin are up, didn't newbies pass the task?
Nice try amigo, but Newbies failed the task because the originals found out, and they all discussed it together! It was AFTERWARDS that as a result, originals decided to not nominate (well, most).

[clairem43]

The newbies task was to get the housemates to nominate them! not for them to be up so no they failed there part....

[The_Long_Run]

The only person who was told she could not tell the original housemates was Hira. The newbies task was to ensure that Noirin and Freddie were nominated, which they are. The fact that they are nominated by BB dos not alter the fact that they are nominated, as was required by the task.

[Sam1994]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
The only person who was told she could not tell the original housemates was Hira. The newbies task was to ensure that Noirin and Freddie were nominated, which they are. The fact that they are nominated by BB dos not alter the fact that they are nominated, as was required by the task.

It's a secret mission. Hira told them it was a secret when she was shouting the details of the task.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
The only person who was told she could not tell the original housemates was Hira. The newbies task was to ensure that Noirin and Freddie were nominated, which they are. The fact that they are nominated by BB dos not alter the fact that they are nominated, as was required by the task.
No it was a joint secret task. All new HMs had to comply. But the originals found out. Game Over.

[The_Long_Run]

Watch the Video where she was given the task. "You must tell the other New HMs but must not tell the others". This was a personal instruction to Hira. It is of course a moot point but BB producers will interpret the rules in whatever way suits them.

[Shasown]

The originals suspected there was a mission but they didnt know what it was, therefore the newbies passed

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Watch the Video where she was given the task. "You must tell the other New HMs but must not tell the others". This was a personal instruction to Hira. It is of course a moot point but BB producers will interpret the rules in whatever way suits them.
Yes, the point was that the originals must not find out.

BB said in the DR and on the hand-out about the joint secret mission and how the originals can't find out, etc.

Hira was just the person who went in to pull the balls out and get the hamper.

She has no special role in the task, other than what I stated above.

Originals not nominating WAS A REACTION to finding out about the task.

[AhmedFan2004]

Originally posted by Shasown
The originals suspected there was a mission but they didnt know what it was, therefore the newbies passed
Well the newbies still discussed it with them. David was chatting to them about it openly. But you made a good point.

[Sam1994]

Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Watch the Video where she was given the task. "You must tell the other New HMs but must not tell the others". This was a personal instruction to Hira. It is of course a moot point but BB producers will interpret the rules in whatever way suits them.

Joint secret mission. Which means all parts of the mission apply to everyone involved in the mission.

"You must tell Bea, David, Kenneth and Tom but you must not reveal the mission to any of the original housemates." is what BB said. The mission was revealed.

[shams79]

All house are up except Lisa and Rods

[shams79]

I hope Lisa and Kenneth Kenneth goes

[The_Long_Run]

Originally posted by AhmedFan2004
Originally posted by The_Long_Run
Watch the Video where she was given the task. "You must tell the other New HMs but must not tell the others". This was a personal instruction to Hira. It is of course a moot point but BB producers will interpret the rules in whatever way suits them.
Yes, the point was that the originals must not find out.

BB said in the DR and on the hand-out about the joint secret mission and how the originals can't find out, etc.

Hira was just the person who went in to pull the balls out and get the hamper.

She has no special role in the task, other than what I stated above.

Originals not nominating WAS A REACTION to finding out about the task.


Are you a producer?

There was no handout (unless the failure of Hira to understand needed to be corrected post hoc. If there were to be a handout, why was Hira told that she must tell the other newbies what the task was?!! I stand by my original contention that SHE was the only one on whom the embargo was imposed unless the viewing public have been misled. We always wondered how on earth Hira had managed to communicate the task to the other newbies when she clearly had only a vague notion of what it was!

Patenly the hamper was provided as a cover so that the person coming out of the diary room had an excuse to cover the reason for having been called into the diary room. The fact that she couldn't see her hand ifshe held it in front of her face, spoiled that ploy for the inventor of the task.

[The_Long_Run]

Vindicated! Noirin and Siavash were discussing late last night on LF whether they were up or not, so clearly they only knew that SOME HMs who were perceived to have discussed nominations were up, but they didn't at that time know who they were! They knew new HMs were up and that 6 of originals were up, but apparetly NOT which ones, except any that had refused to nominate who were up for that transgression.