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  1. Stu
    20-05-2010 12:30 PM
    Stu
    I understand that extreme bouts of anxiety and paranoia can occur with Cannabis, but these are different from psychedelic trips, which are impossible with THC.

    You know nothing about me and your arguments have no ground whatsoever. Whatsoever.

    Simply assuming I won't go as far as I should because I smoke weed? That's riddiculous. Utterly riddiculous. I make the same music stoned as I do sober. Only when I'm stoned the music seems to flow out faster and ideas come together faster. This is not a delusion. I have been doing it for two or three years now. I think I know.

    Why are my wasting my time with you? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Have fun being a gob****e. Dude.

  2. ElProximo
    20-05-2010 12:23 PM
    ElProximo
    My arguments are based on reality and more experience with weed you can ever imagine.
    That is why I see you as a 'noob' who is just ridiculously naive at this time and won't even know how much damage this causes until years later.

    And speaking of proving your immaturity with this - did you actually think you were going to be 'sticking it to me' and getting laughs over how annoyed I'd be at your promise to impair yourself later?
    Really?
    Wow that is childish dude.
  3. ElProximo
    20-05-2010 12:23 PM
    ElProximo
    I won't be dropping any arguments or repeating them over and over either.
    As for 'bad trips' - you bet there are a significant number of people who will have terrifying and traumatizing trips off of weed.
    People who CAN handle it well are the ones who keep smoking it and praising its benefits and describing it as a 'mild relaxant' and this type of thing.

    You could make music without getting high and it would be as good if not better. What happens is that while you are high you are deluded into believing its all flowing with ease and it better than it would be if you were sober.
    Its not.

    Really though, what are you doing?
    Making music that high people will drone along to.
    Whats worse is that you aren't going to go anywhere with this career. Not as far as you would sober.
    You won't be getting your **** together to distribute it, polish it, meet with people and eventually get something *going where it's meeting your potential.
    *not as far as you would sober-minded.
  4. Stu
    20-05-2010 12:02 PM
    Stu
    Also ... bad trips? It's not acid. You don't trip off weed. Jesus christ.
  5. Stu
    20-05-2010 12:01 PM
    Stu
    Again, your arguments are based on nothing more than short sighted assumption. I never once said I devoted ALL my energy to Cannabis legality, and I never once said it was the most important issue in my life. Far, far from it. You see by being ... well ... full of shit ... you are not exactly flying the flag high for the sobreity brigade.

    I am not useless when I get high and it is not slowing me down. You clearly have no knowledge of both myself or the drug. You have dropped some of your arguments abruptly as you have gone along and the current hallmark of your posts seems to be to make assumptions about other peoples lives.

    Like I said, full of shit. I'm probably going to bong some homegrown tonight, look back at this argument, laugh my ass off, and have a good time. And if that irks you, then all the better. This babys exuding the joy of life .

  6. Stu
    20-05-2010 11:52 AM
    Stu
    But I'm glad you dropped the idea that anyone who takes drugs is doing it to deal with a problem, and that I must think Cannabis legality is the most important issue in the world today. Well done .
  7. Stu
    20-05-2010 11:52 AM
    Stu
    As it happens I already have plenty of proof in the music I produce. I'm not saying I need weed as a creative aid, but I find when I sit at my synth rack with the laptop powered up, tracks flow out of me like crazy. I never said weed would help with deep metaphysical discussion. What you are doing is taking an extreme, absurd example and embellishing it to the point of riddicule.

    Weed does NOT make me stupid. I smoked it throughout my last year of school and ended up getting very good grades. Four hours after smoking a joint I feel exactly the way I did before smoking a joint. Alcohol hangovers to me are far more debilitating. Coffee, to me, is far more debilitating. It gives me a horrible attention span and if I were to sit at my computer and make a track after a cup of coffee, I would be off looking up Google within a matter of minutes. You don't know me. You don't know all the pot smokers in the world. All of your arguments are based on laughably sweeping assumptions.
  8. ElProximo
    20-05-2010 11:47 AM
    ElProximo
    Seriously, you just have to step back and realize you are devoting this energy and all this effort to... getting a buzz.
    You want to get high and feel good.
    That is your 'cause' in life?
    What else.. demanding the right to have creamy cakes and more cartoons and video games?
    Stop getting high. You are useless when you are high and ultimately its slowing you down, arresting your development and later may be impeding your happiness when you start getting peculiar types of mini-seizures and 'panic attacks', bouts of paranoia and unfortunately weed will 'turn on you' causing more bad trips than good.
    Oh yes.
    This is very real.
  9. ElProximo
    20-05-2010 11:46 AM
    ElProximo
    It does make you stupid. The worst thing about weed is that the user is given the unreal and false impression they are being creative and have enhanced brain power. In fact they are severely impaired and deluded about their mental capabilities.

    Do a test one day. Get some friends together and smoke a lot of weed. Get into some conversations about some creative or somewhat intriguing ideas.
    Leave a recorder going for the next few hours.
    At the time you will be CONVINCED you are having some of the most creative and wild philosophical ideas, inventing some brilliant arguments and exchanging some truly meaningful ideas.
    Don't smoke weed for at least a day or two.
    Then listen to your recordings.
    You will cringe at the stupidity and even feel depressed at the lameness, slowness and dullness of it all. It will be unbearable to listen to.
  10. Stu
    20-05-2010 11:28 AM
    Stu
    Also, how does it make me stupid? Everyone is different. Idiots will always be idiots and smoke every hour of every day and go about life being idiots. But for others, Cannabis can act as an aid to creativity, or simply a mild relaxant.

    Also, yes I realize it does not agree with everyone, but statistically the war on the drug does more harm than all the combined possible fires, car accidents etc. It's just a FACT.

    Also, the fact that it's something I believe in hardly automatically means I am neglecting other world concerns, or that I see Cannabis legality as being more of an important issue than food, for fuck sake.

    I think YOU need to get real. Please don't you dare tell me why me or anyone else wants to get high, drunk, stoned of buzzed off a mug of coffee - a drug - in order to make it to lunchbreak without falling asleep.

    Hey, it's sure as hell better than using church as a crutch .

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