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Lee. 19-10-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6439563)
I don't believe you could survive as a stand alone country for a start Lee, the oil reserves are a draw but would it be enough to maintain independence?
Can't post links but Cathy Newnans C4 news blog from 12 May 2011 has lots of relevant information on Scottish expenditure.
United we stand divided we fall as far as I can see.

You don't believe we'd survive as an independent country? Why? Are we too small? Too stupid? Do we not have any natural resources? Do we have nothing to export? No tourism? Why? Why would we not survive when, if we take oil and gas into account, Scotland is one of the wealthiest European countries?

user104658 19-10-2013 08:05 PM

The main problem with the union is that Scotland as a population has a far more socialist mindset than the UK as a whole. For example - Scotland has never voted for a conservative government. Not ever. And yet Scottish citizens, services and infrastructure have suffered at the hands of several Tory governments who are firmly focussed on London and The South of England. That is a problem, in my eyes... It's a country of several million being ruled 50% of the time by a government that they did not vote for by a country mile. Tory governments docnot represent the interests and political standpoints of Scottish people. This is not democracy.

HOWEVER, both countries benefit immensely from the easy trade between countries within the Union and shared resources... This is fairly clear.

Personally I think Scottish people would be best served by an "ultimate devolution" - preserving the Union but allowing the Scottish government larger control over the spending of taxes raised north of the border, and full control over social policies such as welfare, especially housing. Although that would of course open up a can of worms re: benefits "tourism" from south of the border, but then again, the "three years residence" policy that applies to student university funding (Scottish students don't pay fees, English do, English people must have been resident in Scotland for 3 years to qualify for this) works perfectly well and so could apply in the same way to out-of-work benefits fairly easily? With in-work benefits being unaffected.

Kizzy 19-10-2013 08:06 PM

I am interested but can't watch you tube on this mobile :(
I have heard he is a great motivator, but as good a showman as he is splintering the UK is risky.

fingers 19-10-2013 08:23 PM

Just to clarify, would we be asking to join the Commonwealth as well as the EU?

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Kyle 19-10-2013 08:41 PM

I tell you this if Scotland votes for independence I am boycotting Lorne Square sausages and Tunnocks tea cakes, so that's £3.89 a month less into the Scottish economy. With those kind of losses you guys are gonna have to make a Braveheart II or something to plug the gap.

user104658 19-10-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6440044)
I tell you this if Scotland votes for independence I am boycotting Lorne Square sausages and Tunnocks tea cakes

Not Irn Bru though?

fingers 19-10-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6440044)
I tell you this if Scotland votes for independence I am boycotting Lorne Square sausages and Tunnocks tea cakes, so that's £3.89 a month less into the Scottish economy. With those kind of losses you guys are gonna have to make a Braveheart II or something to plug the gap.

You'd probably not be able to buy them anyway, London would put a prohibitive import duty on them!

Kyle 19-10-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 6440061)
Not Irn Bru though?

I'm sorry irn bru is just too good I can't boycott that. It's shame we don't get them in the glass bottles down here that you guys get, that was always my highlight of seeing my family up in Livingston as a kid!

Kyle 19-10-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6440066)
You'd probably not be able to buy them anyway, London would put a prohibitive import duty on them!

Then Yorkshire will demand a referendum too! Those poncy Tory boys and their jellied eels have meddled with our affairs for too long!

fingers 19-10-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6440116)
I'm sorry irn bru is just too good I can't boycott that. It's shame we don't get them in the glass bottles down here that you guys get, that was always my highlight of seeing my family up in Livingston as a kid!

I haven't seen a glass bottle of Irn Bru since it was forced to rename from Iron Brew!!

Edit: ....and who forced the name change?

Kyle 19-10-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6440173)
I haven't seen a glass bottle of Irn Bru since it was forced to rename from Iron Brew!!

Edit: ....and who forced the name change?

Really? My Grandad has loads Of empty bottles in his cellars, he told me you could get a bit of your money back by handing the bottles back in.

fingers 19-10-2013 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6440191)
Really? My Grandad has loads Of empty bottles in his cellars, he told me you could get a bit of your money back by handing the bottles back in.

That was back when Kay Starr was topping the charts!


Kyle 19-10-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6440198)
That was back when Kay Starr was topping the charts!

Haha that's a shame for him, he would probably be a rich man now if he could :joker:

fingers 19-10-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6440209)
Haha that's a shame for him, he would probably be a rich man now if he could :joker:

At 3 Old Pence a bottle he'd need a cellar the size of Edinburgh castle!

Kyle 19-10-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fingers (Post 6440221)
At 3 Old Pence a bottle he'd need a cellar the size of Edinburgh castle!

:joker:

Lee. 19-10-2013 09:14 PM

You still get money for taking your glass bottles back!! It's 30p now though! :amazed:

Kyle 19-10-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6440245)
You still get money for taking your glass bottles back!! It's 30p now though! :amazed:

Do they not sell them anymore though Lee?

fingers 19-10-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6440245)
You still get money for taking your glass bottles back!! It's 30p now though! :amazed:

That's 6 shillings in REAL money!

Cherie 19-10-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6440245)
You still get money for taking your glass bottles back!! It's 30p now though! :amazed:

I love that you can still do that.

Kyle 19-10-2013 09:19 PM

I really hope you still sell them, If you do I'll have to pop into the centre next time I'm in livi and relive old times.

Lee. 19-10-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6440249)
Do they not sell them anymore though Lee?

Yeah the chippy sells glass bottles. I always get barrs red cola

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bT8TXbnBAy...a_750ml_FS.jpg

Kyle 19-10-2013 09:23 PM

Never tried that, what's it taste like?


Reminds me of Tizer looking at it.

fingers 19-10-2013 09:25 PM

As an independent country, this presupposes that this NEW country will need a new currency even if they decide to call it the "Pound". ALL Countries have their own currency, don't they?

Lee. 19-10-2013 09:26 PM

I can't really describe what it tastes like.. Like a little bit of heaven maybe? Especially with a smoked sausage supper :love:

fingers 19-10-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6440287)
I can't really describe what it tastes like.. Like a little bit of heaven maybe? Especially with a smoked sausage supper :love:

Yeah, sounds like "Tizer, the appetizer".


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