Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5927602)

I do have to say I am not that comfortable with such a funeral that is being planned.
Indeed as has been said, she herself didn't want this fuss either, being fair to her.

Okay, she was the first and so far only Female PM of the UK,she was also just the longest of the last century too,'just' by a year or so.
She wasn't Churchill in that she had a World war to deal with,anyone would see why he got a really big funeral.

Personally,I think they should have planned a respectful but far lower key funeral.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5927216)

I would near agree with all that, she was right to curb the unions, the secondary picketing particularly.
I do feel there was an intention though to really get at the mining unions because of them bringing down the Conservative Govt in 1974.

Clearly however, Labour didn't give in that much to the Unions either since the strikes in 1978/9 were during the dying months of the Labour govt.

I think myself what she is most responsible for, is encouraging selfishness in people,an I am all right attitude and to blazes with near everyone else.
It is that element to her that would have turned me off voting for her.
Having said that I likely would have voted for her in 1979 though had I even been born and old enough.

Just watched the panorama interview with Robin Day from the 1987 election, I ahve to say she was impressive,I am not saying she was right but she was impressive and clearly a formidable opponent.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 5927613)

Joey,I know your knowlegable about such things ,so I will ask you,Weren't the pits closing down before Mrs Thatcher came into power? serious question as that is what I was told,and the country was in dire straits?

Originally Posted by Saph (Post 5927651)

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 5927614)

I don't wish to but in or anything but yeah, Britain was skating on thin ice before she arrived. I wasn't around at the time myself, but I've done quite a bit of research on this. Remember the winter of discontent and all?

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 5927613)

Joey,I know your knowlegable about such things ,so I will ask you,Weren't the pits closing down before Mrs Thatcher came into power? serious question as that is what I was told,and the country was in dire straits?

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 5927616)

I have stayed out of this debate because i dont fancy being banned just now.
I will say however that anyone that proposed to buy an island in indonesia with your money to send all the "Boat people" to live on and call it "Immigrant island" doesnt deserve my respect. Rot in hell slut.

Just to show the filthy scum havent changed my local MP voted for ACTA that wants to keep medicine copyrighted so poor countrys cant duplicate it to help people with aids,cancer,lukemia etc and also voted against gay marriage.
SHAME ON THE BASTARDS THAT SUPPORT THESE WANKERS.

The above is why i am trying not to post on this subject and i havent even got to the wikileaks posts that show thatcher wanted the yorkshire police protected regarding the Hillsborough disaster as a reward for doing her dirty work in the miners strike.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 5927668)

I know this post was to joey, Kazanne, but I'm going to stick in my two cents... and it isn't going to be popular with with red-flag wavers...

One of the golden rules of business is that you don't move high bulk, low cost commodities a long way, you move high cost, low bulk communities. So, while you would move gold and diamonds from around the world, you wouldn't move coal because it is uneconomical so ideally you would use local supplies. And yet, our pits were so uneconomical we were shipping in coal from Australia because the coal from Durham (for example) was too expensive. That's why the pits closed, not because Thatcher had a deep dislike for working class people in general and miners in particular.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 5927676)

She's the only woman PM the country has ever had. That is a huge achievement in itself.

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5925896)

There is a lot I'd normally post here, but I'd probably end up with a ban.

The world is a better place.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 5927195)

Think it's a bit easy to jump on the Thatcher hate bandwagon, and while a lot of people have legitimate reasons to dislike her I don't think people should forget the state that Britain was in when she took over. The power that the Trade Unions exerted was pretty ridiculous, and they didn't seem to care about the chaos and crippling endless strikes they were inflicting on the public. Also, if you take an example like mining, it is a shame how it turned out but it's not like Thatcher came to power with a rabid intent to destroy the industry out of spite; under Harold Wilson there was a mine closing every week, there were only 300 left by 1970 and when Thatcher came to power productivity was collapsing, and so was employment and sales, it was all but dead before she was elected.

Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 5927695)

Also gotta love the amount of morons slagging her off over the internet (Twitter and what not), most of whom are below 20 years of age and no doubt have any idea of her agendas or policies and are just jumping on that bandwagon.

Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 5927695)

Also gotta love the amount of morons slagging her off over the internet (Twitter and what not), most of whom are below 20 years of age and no doubt have any idea of her agendas or policies and are just jumping on that bandwagon.

Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 5927695)

Also gotta love the amount of morons slagging her off over the internet (Twitter and what not), most of whom are below 20 years of age and no doubt have any idea of her agendas or policies and are just jumping on that bandwagon.

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5927703)

Couldn't someone level that accusation at you for defending her?

I always assume that most people are fully aware of the path she took during her reign.

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ (Post 5927665)

I think it's clear that the country may have been on the wrong path, but to suggest the only way out of it, was the extreme right wing approach of Thatcher is not true.

People can slag unions off all they like, whilst they're enjoying a day off on sick, paid holiday, or after work thanks to the rights fought for by these unions. I'd rather have unions going OTT for the cause of the common working man, than have the crony capitalist state she introduced.

This woman reduced the working classes in this country to a state they have yet to rebound from, attacking whole cities and regions in the process. My parents did very well under her government, but the blurred battle lines between between rich and poor were redrawn after her.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 5927702)

Their parents etc will have also fed them a lot of stuff JH:hugesmile: