Not quite. He just wanted to blame the woman.

It was very light in that room, so people would have been waking up anyway, especially while as he was just about to get up anyway. I thought he did it for the cameras and out of mischief - he was in a better mood and had a little smile on his face. I thought it was rather amusing, though not as amusing as Luisa squealing "It's the grim reaper", lol.

BTW - I don't think wanting to stay up late and party is anything to do with age. Some people are owls. Others are better in the morning. Jim probably wasn't the only person who wanted to go to bed. No-one wants to be a party pooper, and that includes Jim. I'm a party animal myself, and an owl, but if someone needs to get to bed, I'd vacate their bedroom and have fun elsewhere. Otherwise, I'm being selfish, arrogant and anti-social. How is that fun?

Yes the lights went out and he shuffled in, I saw that.
Why didn't he just get in bed?

Well it was mostly Luisa screeching & shouting & then she carried on making a noise when he eventually went into the bedroom, so yeah I would say she was the one to blame...

Because that wouldn't illicit any sympathy.

Because it was pitch black & when he got to his bed Luisa was still making a noise so he decided to go back out until they were all asleep but BB locked the doors...

Take off your blinkers or rewatch the episode. Dappy was just as loud.

He even admitted to screaming when he went to speak to Jim.

Oh and Sam also commented on Dappy and Luisa screaming. :douf:

Let's face it, Luisa is purposely trying to wind Jim up. She's made no secret of it.

He shuffled in because he was coming into a dark room, Luisa was still shouting so he went to go back out but BB locked the doors :joker:

I said it was MOSTLY Luisa, I know Dappy was making noise too, but when he finally went into the bedroom, she was the only one who was still making a noise...

That's still not true though. Dappy admitted as much and Sam commented that it was Dappy and Luisa.

Which thread is that please?

It is true, her screeching was far louder than anyone elses, yes it was both, but she carried it on long after Dappy had shut his trappy :joker:

Well ok... so when the door was locked why didn't he get in bed, why sit in a crumpled heap on the floor?
Come to think of it where is jims bed? I seem to remember seeing a clip of him watching luisa and jasmine messing about, is he in the bed next to luisa?

Not according to Sam. Who was there of course.

Dappy was also the one making loud sex noises when he was dry humping Luisa. Just before he went out to see Jim.

So you're wrong when you say he'd shut his trappy.

But again, it's not exactly unusual or surprising for people to be more tolerant and forgiving towards their friends, who also make an effort to apologise, than towards someone who continuously goes on about how she hates him and revels in winding him up

The fact is Jim has every right to expect that people should accomodate his needs, but not when its virtually the whole house against him on this one night where they were all having fun, if it was just Luisa and Dappy etc being drunken messes then yes Jim has a point, but when it was one night where the house where all agreed, i think Jim should have just loosened up forr once

From what I was watching she came across as far louder & I said he had shut up when Jim WENT TO BED, Luisa was the one still going on & made Jim make a bee line to the door...

..yep, I do agree with that..we do all have opinions on people and that's where our perspective comes from, whether we think something was purposefully said in spite or not etc...which is the same for fans etc..we all see the same thing but look at it differently...there is very rarely a definitive right or wrong, just as opinion on a situation...

And when they went to bed its not like Luisa was going to be carrying on forever lol, she was clearly going to go to sleep eventually

But Jim didn't actually tell any of them to be quiet, he wanted to sleep so went from the bedroom, to the tree house, to indoors & it was Dappy that stirred the **** & told them all that Jim wanted them all to be quiet now as he wants to get to sleep, he was quite happy to simply wait til they had gone to slep before he went into the bedroom... He didn't make a fuss about it at all...

Jim is a hypocrite and dappy is a people pleaser, as said the whole house were enjoying themselves... except jim, which prompted ben to start this thread entitled 'Fun sponge jim'.

Even before lights out? Has there been any where a HM grumps when music is played into the house in the early evening?

Once the lights go out, I think the bedroom should be out of bounds for the ones that want to party. Before that - no. If Jim chooses to go to bed before anyone else, then that is up to him and there is no point getting up and going from one place to another to make the others feel guilty and put attention on himself.
Why didn't he get his GP to prescribe sleep medication to bring if he isn't a night person? Did he think the other HM's would cease having fun whenever HE feels tired?
I think he just loves to play the victim. It's for the camera's.

You know what, I have been reading through this thread last night and again today,the conclusion I have further reached is in fact that Jim's grumpiness actually adds greatly to the entertainment value of the house.
If all that was happening was Luisa and Dappy frolicking about and everyone else ignoring that,whether they approve or not.
If Luisa was making a noise in the bedroom and getting little or no reaction from anyone.
Then that would be as tedious to watch, in my view,as just about the love triangle was.

However when Jim's grumpiness and moaning takes place, that actually increases tenfold the entertainment value of the programme and I think Jack tried to touch on that last night in his posts.
One thing is for sure, if Jim wasn't complaining and grumpy at times then not much would be being talked about on here as to what happens at night like as did last night.

This is for me, one the best CBB's there has been and Jim,in my opinion, has a really big part that he has played so far in making it that too.